Prole Revolution
a system is failing
One of the things I hate hearing the most with the arts is "there's always good stuff being made, you just gotta be willing to DIG man!". I hate this because it's one of those things that is maybe kind of true but it just ends up being a memetic weapon to accept a completely passive and nihilistic attitude towards mounting degradation. Like all things fragile in a properly ordered society this trueism serves a good purpose, but in a degraded society it gets corrupted along with everything else. 

The most fundamental and controversial thing I believe and post about is this degradation. That if people don't want to put even the slightest effort into maintaining or growing finer arts, then things do indeed get worse as a whole on all layers. Talent and genius are generative features of a population, no matter what happens the bulk of humanity will always spit out random outliers whose innate qualities come together in a particularly compelling way. But it's still a matter of choice whether we decide to hamper them as much as possible and deliberately make their goals harder to acheive or enable them, and yes the latter has to be done at the cost of that bulk of humanity previously mentioned. Who do you choose? The bulk or the individual? For me it's never been a difficult choice and due to the framing few disagree in THEORY. In practice however is a different story. 

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I choose to make this thread now because I think this guy is a particularly good example of this Prole Revolution and the masses obtaining an increasing disdain for quality, effort, refinement and so on. How do you explain this sort of thing to a person born prior to the Dada movement? How do you explain this sort of thing to Greeks or any other culture in existence that once took the things the occur in public seriously? The best counter-argument I can think of is some sophist trying to pretend such a figure is akin to Diogenes, but that doesn't work. Diogenes was not a JOINER. The stories involving him are ones where immediate sacrifices were made to his own standing and dignity especially in the eyes of the public. The maximum cost of this "performance" is people will just not pay any attention. You really aren't opening yourself to much risk in doing this. Consooming goysnacks in public doesn't take much of any commit. If anything it's something that is more easily auiqesced to than otherwise, with an absolutely miniscule caveat that there is some degree of social organizing and persistence that had to occur in order to make this into a public spectacle and you could technically call that effort. But these are both horrible things where effort should not be concentrated. A quality society does not reward people on the basis of null repetitive task completion or being able to move retarded cattle into various ends alone. As we can see from just about any popular online moobement, rightward or otherwise, moving cattle into some particular domain or structure is NOT admirable and mostly tends to result in the degradation of the person driving them in the long run. 

Nonetheless we have an entire crowd showing up to watch this retard eat his cheese in a vaguely dramatized fashion. So there is some kind of appeal evidently, and as foreshadowed above what this ultimately is, is a kind of protest. Protests in our day and age tend to be some of the more highly mobilizing events. They work because they supply a feeling of meaning and movement towards bigger things to otherwise spiritually and emotionally nullified human masses. And they're easily bent towards pointless and non-challenging ends. What you get by partaking in this performance is a feeling that something is happening, and a feeling that doesn't cause the tension resultant from realizing that individuals of great worth should be enabled AT THE EXPENSE of the crowds who watch them. You don't need to offer anything to partake here. It's free, it requires absolutely no meaningful knowledge of anything to enjoy, and best of all it's ""virtues"" are all perfectly aligned with groupthink. The appeal of this perfomance is that you get contrast yourself against people who take things too seriously and aren't emotionally dead. It's sort of like a big inside joke on any potential non-normal one having chuds who would be offended at public inanity. In this crowd you can pretend that you understanding something about life that "bitter" anti-social types don't. One can imagine the reception to an INDIVIDUAL going against the crowd and smashing this container of cheeseballs and dispersing the cattle. Something that really WOULD be risky and courageous. You might even get arrested or physically harmed for doing this. The scale is small enough I wouldn't call that greatness, but such a person would be taking the first steps towards it in a way nobody in the crowd nor the person eating the cheeseballs would. Th entire thing is a way of saying "fuck anybody who thinks they are special. We think a guy eating cheeseballs is specialer, and we all agree so you can't go against our consensus." 

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Do you have the capacity to respect this man for attacking busker scum as they rightfully deserve? One important instrument in mass sadism and protest of quality is LOOKSISM. Proles necessarily lack the force of will to simply invent things ENTIRELY from nothing. Even the cheeseball performance, which forsakes any notion of beauty, implicitly rests on social cohesion as its main driver. We're all just trying to get along and have a good time, and anybody offended by this or anybody who interrupts it is trying to stop us from having innocent fun. The important thing to note about masses is they are shallow and when left to their own devices can only emphasize shallow factors due to group stupidity. The two most common arguments in prole revolution are "you're just mad that you're ugly / can't get laid" (Appeal to Glands) and "we're just trying to have fun, stop overthinking it" (don't have a silly name for this one yet).

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Looksism above all being the most potent in the family of normie cultural forces, because it has it's basis in something that can even offend the recipient themselves and is one of the only times they broach objectivity. Objectivity being something that tends to appeal MORE to higher minds and Individuals. In all but the rarest cases, the primary sufferer in a situation of being born ugly is the person who is ugly themselves. Many people who aren't even necessarily ugly, but fail to be particularly attractive even suffer from thinking they are hideous and that this says something bad about their soul. By contrast, social cohesion is not quite as brutal. You can get your feelings hurt over being excluded, but any individualistic person comes well-equipped from the start with the idea of being the one right person in a crowd of wrong people and how that's virtuous. On the other hand, it's literallty impossible to spin being the ugliest person in a group of beautiful people as virtuous. The best you can do is attempt to say looks are superficial, but as per the above tweet normies ALSO are well-equipped with arguments to justify their looksism and gaslight you. 

This all matters quite enormously because reconstruction and maintainance of finer culture requires a destructive approach to all of the above or we won't get to have it. This stuff is NOT going to sort itself out on its own without us having to do anything. The only reason people really gravitate towards the latter is because in this particular conflict you see the most direct and profound expression of spiritual rot. It's so deeply demoralizing and distressing the vast majority of people would rather just ignore it and hope for the best. And many of these people eventually graduate into outright COLLABORATORS who will join in on the isolation and gaslighting against anybody who takes issue with by attacking them from newer and more thoughful angles, maybe hoping themselves to secure a middle-position in the great protest against quality by adding an intellectual edge to the stupidity of the cattle. In the end this may by just be the very most important front in the anti-communist war. And almost nobody is willing to fight it. It's virtually impossible to imagine a correctly-oriented culture being rotted through politics and economics alone. As even many redpillers know, the most important domino to fall first is the culture. Demoralize people on the level of their most intuitive and immediate cultural engagement and political, economic and even physical battles are won quite easily.
FlyWithYou
a system is failing Wrote:One of the things I hate hearing the most with the arts is "there's always good stuff being made, you just gotta be willing to DIG man!". I hate this because it's one of those things that is maybe kind of true but it just ends up being a memetic weapon to accept a completely passive and nihilistic attitude towards mounting degradation.

Even if it's true that 'you should try to make the best of any situation', people often say that without realizing how bad things can get, and how weak and poor 'your best' might be in such a situation. It's a really brvtal idea when you carry it through to its most extreme implications.
Recent Friend
Japanese post.

Peasant revolutions have always been historical failures and them translated to today (cameras everywhere, so no need to actually do violent attention grabbing) results in these impotent performances of needing something to happen. I'd also honestly lump stuff like chanology as a part of this impotency.
Kei
a system is failing Wrote:Looksism above all being the most potent in the family of normie cultural forces, because it has it's basis in something that can even offend the recipient themselves and is one of the only times they broach objectivity.

It's so deeply demoralizing and distressing the vast majority of people would rather just ignore it and hope for the best. And many of these people eventually graduate into outright COLLABORATORS who will join in on the isolation and gaslighting against anybody who takes issue with by attacking them from newer and more thoughtful angles, maybe hoping themselves to secure a middle-position in the great protest against quality by adding an intellectual edge to the stupidity of the cattle.

Interesting to me is that the proliferation of Lookism/Looksmaxxing terminology seems to have been so successfully deployed as a means of enforcing the power of COMMUNITY at the expense of the higher types that tend to oppose it. Right away it seems obvious to me that the kind of person scrupulous Lookism would be most capable of causing distress in (regardless of how he may appear), is a higher type of person. Lookism/Looksmaxxing may not be a necessarily serious or even objective method of discerning the value of a person compared against another (the popular version of this idea seems to have glossed over the particularly important "Just be White"). But to put any version of something like this into the mass consciousness as things are seems like one of the worst things that could happen to especially higher people, who are already under a nearly lethal level of pressure by default. Woman and nigger can just ignore reality as always, so it doesn't really affect them. If you as a higher person don't enjoy those two aforementioned types of thugs breathing down your neck, you can outsource and diffuse the means by which your worth is derived to the community. The outliers who will not stand to join the herd, the true INDIVIDUALS who have nothing to rely on but their own merit are in effect the only group who can by hurt by Lookism, as they are the only ones willing to stand alone and face the objective.

This all just seems like a desperate attempt by Libtards to maintain the deal they've cut with the world, and thus their stranglehold on power a bit longer by turning up the pressure to the highest point it can reach within untenable terms they're working within. Personally I don't think it can last much longer. On the very surface of Lookism there is the promise of the higher dominating the lower, to bring out this weapon is a delayed suicide. In all the appealing things they attempt to maintain control of, objective analysis of humans, Anime, etc, there is a promise of a truly amazing world that they cannot directly interface with on account of their inability to confront reality. They're always deluding, lying, diffusing, but they will not be able to continue using their position of power to wield reality as a weapon against those who know Truth for much longer. Any day now, and one very soon, they will run out of room to maneuver around the truth. What a wonderful time it will be as they are all reduced to nothing. What a beautiful new world that will be.

--Kei
a system is failing
Kei Wrote:--Kei

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Excellent post, friend.
FrenziedFish
Internet meme culture has basically been this for years. People like to try and say Anthony Fantano disavowed any right wing beliefs and associations (in regards to Sam Hyde and his own channel covering memes thatistheplan) but I'd just say that was somewhat of a coincidence in that he and Sam Hyde managed to fall into the same cultural space at the same time as an ascendant right element (gamergate) met with increasing internet usage and the growth of colloquial meme formats to produce what were implicitly right-wing memes in such formats. Fantano was just the first of many to shake off what he saw (correctly, but wrong in action) as right-wing influence on this communal and low common denominator meme culture after being called out by higher ups in his own cultural space (music). Fantano was followed in similar fashion by idubbz, to a lesser extent filthy frank and a good number of others. This battle continues to this day, of course, since right-wing ideas in even their most perverted forms (Andrew Tate) have more pull on the normie cattle than left-wing ones, which only truthfully appeal more to the consciously disfigured (physically and otherwise).

This is no advocacy to lower the standard of discussion anywhere in these spheres, I also do think it's well understood that the masses are totally downstream of polemics and debates had in our spheres years ago also. What I'm hoping to illustrate is that the normies aren't intrinsically drawn to left-coded low culture but bullied into it or presented only with it, further delegitimisation of traditional platforms and arbiters along with the opening up of platforms will lead and has led to a rightward shift in the masses, what needs to happen now is those positions of legitimation and arbitration need to be taken up by people like us to eliminate the Andrew Tates of the world from the discourse and cultural space.
a system is failing
FrenziedFish Wrote:People like to try and say Anthony Fantano disavowed any right wing beliefs and associations (in regards to Sam Hyde and his own channel covering memes thatistheplan) but I'd just say that was somewhat of a coincidence in that he and Sam Hyde managed to fall into the same cultural space at the same time as an ascendant right element (gamergate) met with increasing internet usage and the growth of colloquial meme formats to produce what were implicitly right-wing memes in such formats. Fantano was just the first of many to shake off what he saw (correctly, but wrong in action) as right-wing influence on this communal and low common denominator meme culture after being called out by higher ups in his own cultural space (music). Fantano was followed in similar fashion by idubbz, to a lesser extent filthy frank and a good number of others.

I don't think it's THAT coincidental. I made sure to use the term "collaborators" at least once in the OP as it's an important type in this phenomenon and they have to be patterned and recognized for what they are. The amount of truly COMMITTED figures, especially when the going gets "rough", is actually quite small. The anti-SJW wave was successful in a way people in control of ZOG didn't expect and didn't account for. When a trend with actual vitality backing it up surfaces it's simply going to attract people in a distribution far wider than just the true believers. Even if they insist otherwise. Fantano and IDubbz and so on hopped on because it was clearly where the youth was and the energy was and at the time the risks were not there yet. But as per collaborators, more accurately cowards, and their typical behavior, IF the heat turns up you can expect those people to immediately chicken out and try to find some sort of exit. Which is what all these figures essentially did. The importance of this thread is precisely this as well. It's not just about retarded leftists. It's every group. And in every group, only 5% of your aquaintances and friends will actually be there when things get more serious. Fantano and Shoeonhead and many others, Lauren Southern etc are all these types. They are only there when they see shiny things and money and status on your side. If someone tries to take those things away, they will join their side instead. They're not proles, but they are as I described before, the cowardly types of MIDDLING merit and intelligence who think they might have some position of security within the herd. They do not have the balls to call the bluff or stand alone for the truth.
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