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Posture is a rather simple concept to understand, and yet there is much depth in what it demonstrates about a person. I believe it is a duty of every man capable of standing to work on his posture, as it is something he will carry with him for a lifetime, having enormous, holistic effects on his being, both physical and psychological. Whether we are conscious of it or not, it is how we show ourselves to the world.

Anyway, this is a thread to discuss posture, as well as some more generalized advice about it. For instance, I find that tucking your tailbone in slightly and tightening your core immediately makes your back straighter. Obviously, a straighter back will typically make one seem more confident and energetic to others. It is also more difficult to have good posture and feel terrible while maintaining it, or at least not improve upon how one would feel. A steady, slow breath also helps to correct one's postural issues, such as slouching.
The chad indifferent slouch; the virgin PUA manlet perfect-posture. It's normal to have a relaxed but not pathological or slumped-over posture. Of course, in a situation where body language really matters, maybe you want to straighten up either consciously or unconsciously. Guys like Rogan or that ginger pickup guy named Tyler are always standing up straighter than a grizzly's dick and it looks affected to me. In short, the specific orientation of the spine is just one part of what makes for a good posture and a good image to project socially. If a debating politician stood like Rogan or Tyler, he might look too stiff.
Right, posture is intrinsically something situational, and being stiff as a board all the time is not good either; it can come off as overcompensating. However, anecdotally, the issue is *most* people with apparent postural issues have a mindless posture rather than the inverse of an overly conscious tightened one, which is primarily what came to mind when making the OG post.
(11-03-2022, 12:32 PM)Youkai Wrote: [ -> ]I believe it is a duty of every man capable of standing to work on his posture

I believe that you're a fucked up lunatic. The way you stand should not be "work". By deliberately forcing your back straighter against the state it naturally rests in you're swimming against a rip. Expending limited energy against a symptom of a problem. While we're at it why don't we count calories and macros, eat nothing but skinless chicken breast and broccoli and go to a gym every day for the rest of our lives rather than acknowledge and work on the fact that the food and water have been poisoned? Why don't we just get gig jobs because recognising economic injustice is socialism? Have you taken the SWEAT PLEDGE yet?

I will not be moralised at for not seeing the symptoms of oppression as my own fault.

Posture is a symptom of how you live and generally are and any problems with it will be chronic. Rather than punishing yourself for how you are and trying to self mind-rape into habit formation and chronic exertion you should by trying to do good for yourself. Your body is not your enemy. Read this:

[Image: FMatthiasAlexander.jpg]

Look at this man's posture. It's perfect. He does not exert a single muscle to maintain it. He got here by doing the opposite. He perfected his posture by relaxing into it. Our bodies want to be perfect. Slouching is not the result of a genetic quirk that makes your spine want to bend. At some point along the way you started working against yourself, and have been doing so for so long since that you don't even realise it.
Meds. I believe you can correct your posture in a fairly short amount of time. I always had good back and neck posture, but it was very hard to mew at first. Now mewing is my natural posture. I'm not sure if it took a couple months or a couple years honestly but it wasn't some great memorable struggle of will. Zoomer hunchbacks have bad posture because they are cuckolds that do not value masculinity and they view women as gods i.e. they simply don't want to have good posture or are not aware of its existence.

I will look into Alexander; his work looks interesting.


Probably start at hip flexors. Are you lordotic or the opposite (I forget the name.) Strengthen what should be strengthened, stretch the opposite.
Upper body, rotator cuff work will solve most problems.

What Anthony says is correct, if you aren't relaxed while in proper posture, then it's worthless. Ex. Try throwing a simple 1-2 while forcing posture. You will lose most of the power. Also, there are examples of sub-optimal mechanics on great athletes. And adding to this is simple fact of fatigue...Tense person will not last more than 3 rounds. However, you might feel tense when learning better posture. I also think that this is normal, and a part of development (or correction.) I would not worry too much about it one way or the other, because the end goal is to be relaxed and in excellent posture at all time (functioning mechanics.) Going back to boxing example, everyone is tense in the stance at first. Most everyone is tense when getting hit at first. Over time you learn to relax into both. Same with falling...this is why it's a decent idea to practice falling/rolling to avoid injury in many endeavors.

Spine mobility I will mention too, since most people don't do any bending like this. Take a rod. Hold it straight up (arms locked). Lie down, face down. Bring 1 knee up, twist body to other side(Take the rod as far as it will go, don't strain). Hold for a few breaths. Do the other side. This will help with natural posture a little...since it at least wakes your brain up to this sort of movement you might have forgotten (or never known.)

I like back bridges too, but I do not want to be responsible for some autist fucking up the movement and so I won't recommend. As you can see, I am recommending them while absolving myself any responsibility. Such is life. Do kneeling ones before full ones, and do glute extensions (squeezing through the feet and calves as well) before trying full bridges. If your feet and calves can't carry the force on a glute extension, they will fail during a bridge.

The tucking of tailbone (squeezing glutes) and flexing of core as mentioned by OP are a way to temporarily cover hyperlordosis (ex. You would do this while squatting for proper form.) Ideally, you fix the imbalance and your body naturally does this. It doesn't take long. Stretch your hip flexors and strengthen the opposite muscles. Maybe a few months if you are dedicated, but also depends on severity of problem.

Now, I will offer a lesser-known "postural" trick. Many will call this fake and gay, but such is life. Try this first: Look at the face behind your face and see what expression it has. See if it can smile. See if this has any effect on your actual "face". Now do the same with body, posture, etc. This is merely a trick to get your brain in a state where it can "see" a successful movement or way of moving. Practice it a little bit if you see any good results, and you will probably make these results semi-permanent (barring any new bad habits, injuries, etc. picked up.)

I will also vouch for mewing/nasal breathing. Mouth tape was very helpful for me. Yes...I was a mouth breather. It is over for me. Also making sure to nasal breathe during exercise with the tongue placement on roof of mouth sped up my results. Extra benefit of having better conditioning (more efficient on O2).

I am relatively loony (lunatic-ish) so take this for what it is worth. (Proper mechanics) is also fairly subjective once you get down to specialized application...But you can decide what ideas to believe for yourself.