Asvka
12-07-2022, 10:39 PM
Are the schizos right about vaccines (vaccines in general, not just the bio weapon that billions were injected with in the past ~2 years), or are they just fine?
12-07-2022, 10:39 PM
12-08-2022, 01:25 AM
A theory that I find quite interesting is that polio epidemics were caused by DDT poisoning and that that particular vaccine actually barely did anything. If true that's one of medicine's greatest victories completely decapitated. Not really in the mood to do the Salo thing and recap the book I read, so here's the author's twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/statu...KV9_IbAAAA
https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/statu...KV9_IbAAAA
Asvka
12-08-2022, 12:10 PM
(12-08-2022, 01:25 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]A theory that I find quite interesting is that polio epidemics were caused by DDT poisoning and that that particular vaccine actually barely did anything. If true that's one of medicine's greatest victories completely decapitated. Not really in the mood to do the Salo thing and recap the book I read, so here's the author's twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/statu...KV9_IbAAAA
Thank you.
01-08-2023, 11:45 PM
A bit of a strange topic but I was curious if anyone had any theories about "curing" the results of the Covid shot. I didn't get it myself but have family and friends that did and was wondering if any experimenting has been done to reverse the shot.
I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.
I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.
Guest
01-09-2023, 12:31 AM
I think they are both right and wrong. They are right in that vaccines, in general, are bad. But their explanations why are not always correct. From what I've seen, it's simply too messy a field to *prove* anything definitively (definitively for any purpose of utility). And so it's hard to buy any one theory as correct.
But vaccines are bad generally for what they represent and what they are. Each vaccine is a vote of no-confidence into the one injected. It is saying "We believe you might lose the gamble of life. We will try to protect you from the consequences." But it's not good to cheat life in this way, and it's a dangerous way to think. The rate of death, serious illness, etc. from what we vaccinate against is not so high as to cause any trouble to society. Even if it multiplied by 10 times, it would not matter.
So there is no utilitarian reason to do it. We do it mainly for moral reasons. More life = more good. It's sad when people die. And all of this. But the ideas themselves are destructive, etc. etc. I think many of the schizos perceive this wrong-ness with the practice but find themselves unable to face this greater truth (that more life =/ more good.) Without this they find the answer nonetheless (since destructive ideas always have a cost) and then they work to link them. Others are simply researchers who came across strange connections and felt disturbed. But the field is too uncertain to make definitive claims on mechanisms, 2nd-order effects, this sort of thing. Everything has a rhetorical weakness because the science itself is not fool-proof. Even if you have massive statistical certainty...Good luck convincing the audience of this. Because whatever the opposing side says is backed by authority.
And this is why it's difficult to believe them. Not only are some of them very zany, but all of them have this difficult problem of proof. The science is not settled, human biology is very complex, and our best strengths are in "Problem", "Solution" which is measurable in symptoms. Mechanisms themselves are not our strength, nor have we made any large strides towards certainty here. (I concede, some will call this position schizo as well.)
As for theories about "curing" the "cure"...I apologize but I haven't seen anything convincing. Even the cure itself...We don't know what it's doing. Black Box medicines if you will. Need much more data, and probably need some difficult experiments (requiring very stringent testing and data collection.) We got the IGG4 stuff recently so maybe we will know more soon enough. Maybe things like aspirin or fish oil will be helpful (thinning the blood) but then they might be harmful instead. I simply don't know.
But vaccines are bad generally for what they represent and what they are. Each vaccine is a vote of no-confidence into the one injected. It is saying "We believe you might lose the gamble of life. We will try to protect you from the consequences." But it's not good to cheat life in this way, and it's a dangerous way to think. The rate of death, serious illness, etc. from what we vaccinate against is not so high as to cause any trouble to society. Even if it multiplied by 10 times, it would not matter.
So there is no utilitarian reason to do it. We do it mainly for moral reasons. More life = more good. It's sad when people die. And all of this. But the ideas themselves are destructive, etc. etc. I think many of the schizos perceive this wrong-ness with the practice but find themselves unable to face this greater truth (that more life =/ more good.) Without this they find the answer nonetheless (since destructive ideas always have a cost) and then they work to link them. Others are simply researchers who came across strange connections and felt disturbed. But the field is too uncertain to make definitive claims on mechanisms, 2nd-order effects, this sort of thing. Everything has a rhetorical weakness because the science itself is not fool-proof. Even if you have massive statistical certainty...Good luck convincing the audience of this. Because whatever the opposing side says is backed by authority.
And this is why it's difficult to believe them. Not only are some of them very zany, but all of them have this difficult problem of proof. The science is not settled, human biology is very complex, and our best strengths are in "Problem", "Solution" which is measurable in symptoms. Mechanisms themselves are not our strength, nor have we made any large strides towards certainty here. (I concede, some will call this position schizo as well.)
As for theories about "curing" the "cure"...I apologize but I haven't seen anything convincing. Even the cure itself...We don't know what it's doing. Black Box medicines if you will. Need much more data, and probably need some difficult experiments (requiring very stringent testing and data collection.) We got the IGG4 stuff recently so maybe we will know more soon enough. Maybe things like aspirin or fish oil will be helpful (thinning the blood) but then they might be harmful instead. I simply don't know.
01-13-2023, 01:15 PM
I believe that the vaxx won't kill too many of the vaxxed. Instead I believe WE should upon taking power. It doesn't have to do with anything with them being libtards or whatever, but something more simple - a demonstration of power via application of ultimate logical conclusions and proper ultra-extremism, or rather this would be our "Final Argument" that would cause any remnant detractors to kill themselves out of despair and horror.