(09-24-2023, 11:16 PM)nex Wrote: [ -> ]There has been a push from certain coteries of the 'dissident right' to say that the Jewish hatred of European Society is nothing unique and that all other races hate the white man in an equal proportion to themselves. This has a kernel of truth, but is mostly fiction. Jews are unique in their hatred.
This hatred doesn't stem from any particular deed, or even any mutual feud, but rather from a fundamental difference in spirit. I
I agree wholeheartedly that Jews are unique in their hatred of Europeans, though I disagree that this hatred stems
primarily from a difference in spirit.
True as it may be that the spirit of the Jew is markedly different from that of Aryan man, it is equally true that the spirit of any other non-White race is as different, if not even more different, as the Jew's spirit is from the Aryan's. One cannot look at the negro and seriously contend that his spirit - defined by its baseness, vulgarity, aversion to industry, total lack of a connection to anything transcendent, etc. - is any closer to the White man's than is the Jew's. Since the Jew is not unique in regard to how different (and incompatible) his spirit is from that of the White man's when compared to any other non-White race (sans East Asians, perhaps), that difference is not a sufficient explanation for why the Jew hates us to the extent that he does and in the manner in which he does so.
It follows, then, that while the basis for the Jew's hatred of the Aryan is in part the difference in spirit (as implied above, I'd contend that this is the partial basis of any non-White race's hatred of the White man, as it is where our most fundamental differences, and thus our incompatibility, lies), there must be something else driving his strong and unique hatred for us. The most likely impetus for this hatred, in my opinion, is a historical one stemming from a history of feuds, conquest, and forced assimilation of the Jew by driven by Europeans.
As you implicitly conceded in your own explanation of the Jew's hatred for the White race, the ancient Jew was a provincial creature by nature; from the Bronze Age onward, he lived in the most backward part of the Levant, subject to constant rule by outsiders, never rising above dhimmi status. Even when he had his own kingdom, it was not a particularly large one and existed as a vassal to the Assyrians. Though his first major uprooting was at the hands of the Babylonians toward the beginning the Early Classical period, he was able to return home within a few centuries of his exile (perhaps this is where he first picked up his proclivity toward cosmopolitanism when living in non-Jewish societies here, but that's a different conversation) and resume his life as a sedentary peasant living in a cozy proto-shtetl without issue, spending his days engaged in trades, sheepherding, and religious debate. This would not last long, however, as within ~4.5 centuries of his return, two new groups of outsiders, the Hellenes and the Romans, would subjugate him again. Unlike his past overlords, neither group was as tolerant toward the Jew and his backwards ways, with both attempting to forcibly assimilate or even destroy him at times. The Hellenes, ever the cultural proselytizers, attempted to force him to pay tribute to their Gods, adopt their language, and accept their high culture. When he resisted this change, Antiochus Epiphanes crushed him using the full force of the Seleucid military, then forced Greek culture upon him. The Romans, even less tolerant of the backwards ways of the Jews, warred with him for decades, culminating in the destruction of his Second Temple and his expulsion from his homeland. Naturally, this left a terrible taste in his mouth and made him bitter and resentful towards the European, but more importantly, it would define his relationship to us until the present. Unbeknownst to him, this was just the beginning of two millennia of oppression at the hands of Europeans.
Upon his arrival in Europe, he was met with contempt, with this becoming especially true after the Roman elite converted to Christianity (see Justinian I). Many Jews arrived there in shackles, with many of those who did not engaging in mercantile pursuits and integrating into the small Jewish communities that had existed in Southern Europe since the Hellenistic period. After the Roman Empire fell, he moved northward into the lands of the Franks and other Germanic peoples; it was there that experienced a paradoxical situation wherein he was afforded positions of power - namely those in banking, in the courts of kings, and in the field of medicine - but was often subject to intense religious persecution and pogroms. As he spread throughout Europe, going eastward into central Europe and further eastward into the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Kingdom of Poland between the 11th & 14th centuries, this remained the case; though he experienced a greater degree of tolerance in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for a time, he was still subject to the occasional pogrom and oftentimes relegated to small, insular communities in rural areas & ghettoes in urban ones. This tolerance would end within a few centuries of his arrival there with the rise of the Russian Empire, which rewarded the Jew for his willingness to meddle in the affairs of the Sjem on behalf of the Tsar (which contributed greatly to the Deluge of the PLC) and his subsequent revolts against the very Russian rule over Poland that he helped facilitate by creating a new domain for him: the Pale of Settlement, a prison intended to contain him. His stint in the Pale was short relative to the 18 centuries of persecution he had already suffered at the hands of the European, but brutal; he was subject to constant pogroms and forced conversions. His Ashkenazic brothers & Sephardic cousins to the West (in Spain, France, and Germany) had not fared much better in the centuries, oftentimes being persecuted to a far greater degree than he was while in the somewhat tolerant PLC.
With the coming and going of the Haskalah, it would seem as though the Jew believed his fortunes would improve; after all, the goyim and Jew alike had gone through their own Enlightenments, with the goyim no longer being bound by old religious prejudices that plagued his ancestors and drove them to persecute Europe's Jewry. Some writings from Jewish figures during the Haskalah evidence this attitude - that the Jew would be free from both the shackles of his religion and would be able to integrate into Gentile society peacefully, putting an end to a lengthy blood feud between Europeans and Jews - and we even saw instances where this began to happen, with mixed-religious congregations arising in Germany and with many Jews willingly converting to Christianity or becoming secularists as many Europeans had begun to do. The Jew, however, was terribly mistaken, as persecution continued in Russia, Germany, and elsewhere. Even those European societies in the Anglosphere, which had a far greater track record of tolerance toward the Jews, persecuted him, with Gentiles in such societies regarding him with disdain and excluding him from their clubs, fraternities, and businesses. Then, in the mid-to-late 19th century, anti-Semitism in the post-Enlightenment world underwent a renaissance; where the Jew was once hated on the basis of his religion and for what his ancestors had done to Christ - hatred that could often be avoided, or at least mitigated, through conversion to Christianity - he was now hated for his blood, for merely existing. There was no way out for him, nothing he could do or say would save him now; the writing was on the wall: the Jews would not be allowed to continue to exist in Europe as they had for over 1800 years. Attempts to prevent the inevitable arose, possibly in response to this, with the most notable of these being the various communist and Zionist movements that popped up in Europe between the 1840s and 1930s. While the Jew likely believed that his efforts would prevent the Gentiles from destroying him, their efforts backfired miserably; this culminated in the Holocaust, the single greatest wrong ever perpetrated against him by any group of people, with participants coming from all over Europe to see to it that he and his kin would be wiped off the face of the Earth. Although it failed, the damage was done, and when the dust settled, millions of Jews had perished at the hands of the European man. There was no going back now, any hopes that Europeans and Jews could peacefully exist in a European-run society were dashed when the mass graves in Germany, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Ukraine, Russia, and elsewhere were filled to the brim with dead Jews. When the dust settled, the Jew, liberated from the tyranny of old European anti-semites, saw his chance to prevent something like this from ever happening again by promoting mass immigration, beating goyim over the head with sob stories about the Holocaust, etc., and the rest is history.
Before I continue, I must disclaim that the picture I painted above of the history of Jewish-European relations is highly editorialized and far from complete. The history of the Jews in Europe is lengthy, complex, and subject to a lot of variation over time and space; additionally, there were countless instances of Europeans doing right by Jews all over Europe, with the Catholic Church issuing papal bulls condemning pogroms and demanding that they receive protected status, Napolean promoting the integration of Jewry into liberal French society, etc. Moreover, not every Jew, or not even most Jews necessarily see their history as it relates to Europeans in the exact way I described it above. That said,
however, it is highly unlikely that a large number of Ashkenazim would not agree with a lot or even most of what was said as far as the facts are concerned, even if they'd object to the ways that it was framed or the specific language used to describe it (I'd imagine many would want to put a more positive spin on their time in Europe, focusing more on the various accomplishments of and advancements made by Jews, especially in the 19th and 20th centuries and less on Europe's history of vicious anti-semitism, or perhaps emphasizing Jewish resistance to European oppression and the resilience of the Jews).
With that out of the way, let us get back to the point at hand. The picture of the history of Jewish-European relations painted above is particularly important to this conversation insofar as it allows us to distinguish the historical basis of Jewish hatred for Europeans from the hatred of Whites by other non-White races. It does so not by pointing solely to the unique nature of Jewish persecution by Europeans - though it is true that the specific ways in which we persecuted them are unique, largely due to the fact that they were an alien people who adhered to a different religion than we did while living among us and interacting with us constantly, making them unlike any other people we've persecuted - though this is certainly important, but rather by illustrating the unparalleled duration, intensity, and consistency of European persecution of Jews, as well as the ideological basis for it.
While we Europeans have unquestionably engaged in the intense persecution of other races, we typically did so for reasons largely outside the understanding of those races and for significantly shorter periods of time and at times with good intentions; consequently, no other race that we have persecuted or oppressed (and I use these terms neutrally, as I do not believe the persecution or oppression of these peoples to be bad) has had millennia to ponder what we have done to them and why, to stew over it far longer than is healthy for any race, to accumulate and refine their resentment toward us for so long. Furthermore, as mentioned above, the ideological basis for this oppression was less obvious to these peoples, as we were not necessarily demoralizing them through propaganda and making it obvious that we were trying to oppress them as we did with Jews; in fact, in the instance of colonialism, our oppression of the races of Asia, Africa, and South America was often framed as us doing them a favor by enlightening and uplifting them, bringing with us the benefits of Christianity and civilization, and I'm of the belief that many Europeans who colonized these places actually believed they were helping these people.
To illustrate the above, here's an example: Africans. The average African in the Belgian Congo did not know many White men, if any, and any who did deal with Europeans often did so only briefly and in a limited capacity; similarly, the average black slave in the United States did not deal with many White people outside of his owner, his owner's family, and his owner's employees. The most intense bouts of his persecution lasted no longer than 300 or 400 years at most, and in the instance of Africans in Africa, it was rather indirect, limited to things like being forced to go to school to learn the language of his colonizers or having to perform manual labor for a White colonist. In the instance of blacks in America, his oppression lasted a grand total of no more than 350 years (assuming the first niggers arrived in 1619 or so and had been totally liberated from all meaningful forms of oppression by 1969), and 100 of those years entailed little more than petty forms of de jure discrimination that did not seriously affect the nigger's pursuit of happiness (not being allowed to ride on the front of a bus or in the whites-only car on a train is hardly comparable to having Europeans come into your village and murder you, your family, and everyone else living there because your ancestors allegedly killed some guy that was born 1400 years ago). We can also look at the oriental - while it is true that peddling opium on and forcibly uplifting the Chinaman was likely unpleasant for him, this oppression lasted little more than a century; the same is more or less true for the Indian in the Raj, the Malay and the Thai in French IndoChina, and the Pinoy in the Philippines. All of this pales in comparison to 2,200 years of almost constant persecution - whether religious, racial, or both - at the hands of European men; no other race has been subject to conquest by the White man, then had his homeland utterly destroyed and all of his religious idols smashed by him, only to then be forced to live amongst him for 1900 years (with those 1900 years being characterized by constant pogroms, forced persecution, ridicule, etc. and culminating in the death of millions of his people).
It is for this reason that I think one cannot deny the importance of history in the Jew's hatred of the Aryan. Though I've belabored this point and repeat myself for the umpteenth time, it remains true that while most races have suffered persecution at our hands, none has experienced it as intensely, lengthily, consistently, and in such a manner as the Jew has; there seems to be almost no way that this fact, which I believe many Jews are consciously aware of on some level or another, is not a major factor, if not the primary factor driving Jewish hatred of the White man.