Just date a 16-year old then. Or go to Argentina, or Germany, or Italy, or Japan, or Spain. Or just don't get caught. An old hag can still take half your money or accuse you of rape, but people still have sex with them all the time. It's worth the risk to not be a lonely genetic dead end. This defeatism is so stupid. "Boo hoo life is terrible if you're not wealthy". Take some risk then. Put all your money into Bitcoin, or roulette, or make a scam altcoin and see if you're a natural born fraudster, or learn to code, or try dropshipping. "Not allowed to date girls under 18 in America" is not a trivial problem, but there are many solutions. Stop blackpilling.
(10-22-2023, 02:19 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Just date a 16-year old then. Or go to Argentina, or Germany, or Italy, or Japan, or Spain. Or just don't get caught. An old hag can still take half your money or accuse you of rape, but people still have sex with them all the time. It's worth the risk to not be a lonely genetic dead end. This defeatism is so stupid. "Boo hoo life is terrible if you're not wealthy". Take some risk then. Put all your money into Bitcoin, or roulette, or make a scam altcoin and see if you're a natural born fraudster, or learn to code, or try dropshipping. "Not allowed to date girls under 18 in America" is not a trivial problem, but there are many solutions. Stop blackpilling.
Are you willing to go to prison? Potentially for decades and then be a social outcast that’s treated worse than a murderer upon release?
Because that’s the risk you’re taking. Register for sex offender status, many employment options closed to you-social circles? Forget it. You will be seen as having the equivalent of leprosy.
Not to mention you will probably be physically sodomized in prison as a “kid diddler” if not strangled.
The only reason I bring this up is because people here might take you seriously and completely destroy their own lives.
(10-22-2023, 11:46 AM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:but this is impossible for obvious reasons.
Such as...?
This is an absurd question. Assuming your goal is to have the kind of intimate and loving romantic bond referred to, you will need to own the girl outright and in public. The desired emotional connection is contingent upon material stability and security of the relationship, not the other way around. You could get a brief and unstable period of forbidden Young Love purely on the basis of the girl's intrinsic hormonal desire for it, but in the long term there are all kinds of failure modes that will have to be prevented in ways that cannot be done secretly. And it will be multiple years before you can even think about legitimizing the relationship in the eyes of the law and everybody you know, at which point you'll
still be liable if its origins ever come to light.
I agree with defying the longhouse by any means necessary to acquire and marry a virgin. But you have to admit that within existing conventions it's impossible by design, and any attempt to break convention is fraught with life-ruining consequences that need to be approached with extreme consideration.
Ok might as well kill yourself then. I see clearly now that it’s impossible for you to reproduce or live a fulfilling life.
(10-22-2023, 04:28 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Ok might as well kill yourself then. I see clearly now that it’s impossible for you to reproduce or live a fulfilling life.
Are you risking prison rape for the sake of dating a virgin? I am confident that you are not following your own advice of moving to Argentina to secretly date a 14 year old, which means you have either settled for “used” women, or zero sexual contact. If you have found a secret third option that allows you to wed a young virgin with zero legal or societal repercussions then please tell me so I can follow in your footsteps. Are you willing to sacrifice your own dignity in order to reproduce? Is there any value to a child born to women like this in the first place? You can whine and tell me to kill myself because I’m supposedly blackpilled, or you can provide an actual response to Handi’s post in which he laid out a adequate refutation of your so called “solution.”
Everything in life has risks and involves taking advantage of opportunities and exceptions to the rules. I'll leave it at that, but regardless of my personal circumstances, I'm not crying about it, nor describing myself as a "rotter" and trying to persuade other sensitive young men into despair.
Quote:If you have found a secret third option that allows you to wed a young virgin with zero legal or societal repercussions then please tell me so I can follow in your footsteps.
Did you know that, although this is not common, it actually happens? Spend your energy trying to make this replicable instead of convincing people that it's impossible. If that requires us to completely destroy society, then let's do that. It's certainly possible. Many people are working on it behind the scenes.
(10-22-2023, 04:55 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Everything in life has risks and involves taking advantage of opportunities and exceptions to the rules. I'll leave it at that, but regardless of my personal circumstances, I'm not crying about it, nor describing myself as a "rotter" and trying to persuade other sensitive young men into despair.
Fair enough, although I don’t believe it’s possible for everyone. Exceptions are just that, exceptions. If you happen to be one, good for you, but the vast majority of people are going to ruin their lives if they take your advice.
(10-22-2023, 05:00 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:If you have found a secret third option that allows you to wed a young virgin with zero legal or societal repercussions then please tell me so I can follow in your footsteps.
Did you know that, although this is not common, it actually happens? Spend your energy trying to make this replicable instead of convincing people that it's impossible. If that requires us to completely destroy society, then let's do that. It's certainly possible. Many people are working on it behind the scenes.
I never said it was impossible, but until you can provide a realistic way of doing this without saying: “just move to a foreign country and don’t get caught.” I will to continue to see it as highly improbable.
Well the times I have seen it irl, a guy and girl fall in love in college, around ages 18-19. Sometimes they break up either because the guy is too bluepilled or the girl is a nutty whore, but sometimes it's just happily ever after with a beautiful high IQ 19-year old white girl. No need to go after underage girls, but even if hypothetically you needed to to do that, you could go to Europe and whatnot.
(10-22-2023, 04:28 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Ok might as well kill yourself then. I see clearly now that it’s impossible for you to reproduce or live a fulfilling life.
Although it does seem that we're in agreement on the object issue, the smell of your tampon is getting distracting.
BillyONare Wrote:Did you know that, although this is not common, it actually happens? Spend your energy trying to make this replicable instead of convincing people that it's impossible.
Good idea, I will spend my energy trying to make this replicable. I'll start by adopting a posture of being cryptically aloof and lashing out at whoever acknowledges the constraints of the problem. Gee, it might even be interesting if someone claiming knowledge of the matter would remark on strategies or circumstances under which the successful outcome actually happens, but I guess that's too much to ask.
(10-22-2023, 05:11 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]Well the times I have seen it irl, a guy and girl fall in love in college, around ages 18-19. Sometimes they break up either because the guy is too bluepilled or the girl is a nutty whore, but sometimes it's just happily ever after with a beautiful high IQ 19-year old white girl. No need to go after underage girls, but even if hypothetically you needed to to do that, you could go to Europe and whatnot.
Yes I agree there is no need to go after underaged girls, however I don’t think there is a single American woman who is both attractive and relatively high iq while also being a virgin, unless she is still in high school. I am not exaggerating when I say ever single girl I have ever known has lost their virginity by at least their sophomore year of high school (many did so by middle school). College campuses are not a great place to meet chaste women, and churches are unfortunately not much better. This doesn’t mean I’ve given up, but it’s extremely difficult to want to sink so much time into this when it used to be something you didn’t have to put much thought into. I don’t think I will ever change my mind about virginity being a requirement either.
(Pretending you are not discussing this in bad faith
I suggest you read Jim's Blog, Aidan MacClear, icycalm, or any pickup artist. You could even listen to MedGold or Yockeyslut. They are more knowledgeable on these matters than I am.
We are simply annoyed at these 10-page threads that, as another user nicely put, amount to "the wisdom of a middle-aged Turkish man, as if it was a truthnuke that destroys all other theories".
(10-22-2023, 05:30 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ](Pretending you are not discussing this in bad faith I suggest you read Jim's Blog, Aidan MacClear, icycalm, or any pickup artist. You could even listen to MedGold or Yockeyslut. They are more knowledgeable on these matters than I am.
We are simply annoyed at these 10-page threads that, as another user nicely put, amount to "the wisdom of a middle-aged Turkish man, as if it was a truthnuke that destroys all other theories".
The names you listed take no issue with non virgin women, their advice entirely consists of how to “spit game” to whores at a bar or club. No thank you.
Fair enough. The Jim & Aidan position on virgins is basically "Forget about it, here's how to handle a slut, and how to find one that isn't too abject." Which I believe is sadly correct for all practical purposes but I'm still interested in alternatives from the Amarnasphere, if any, due to the greater emphasis on aesthetics and romance.
You guys are just too retarded, sorry. That's probably why you aren't successful with high class girls.
(10-22-2023, 07:34 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are just too retarded, sorry. That's probably why you aren't successful with high class girls.
Oink oink says the pig as he dives head first into his slop (whores). High class women don’t exist, you are deluding yourself. I would love to see these whores you call “high class.”
This is an interesting cope. Not only must it be impossible for le incel to get a smart, pretty, pure woman- but there must not be any to get. If civilization regressed to similar conditions but with a population of hundreds of trillions the numerically challenged, clueless incels would still say "there aren't any such women" with the same level of confidence despite thousands of times the population for a single woman of such quality to be drawn from.
(10-22-2023, 09:44 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]This is an interesting cope. Not only must it be impossible for le incel to get a smart, pretty, pure woman- but there must not be any to get. If civilization regressed to similar conditions but with a population of hundreds of trillions the numerically challenged, clueless incels would still say "there aren't any such women" with the same level of confidence despite thousands of times the population for a single woman of such quality to be drawn from.
There aren’t any such women.
This is getting slightly boring. I'm more interested in hearing what qualifies as the ideal esomenos.
Shinji, Kaworu, or Kensuke?