This was suggested a while back in the shoutbox, and I forgot the original user who responded. The main discussion for this thread is the U.S. armed forces, and military career. Input for young frogs weighing decisions helpful.
I already know the obvious. Vets don't send their kids, woke, competency and the very real chance of being killed by retarded bureaucracy. My most recent refresher on the dysfunction is when BAP hosted Erik Prince, and seeing a fucking foid give a PowerPoint on queerness at Annapolis. On the other hand, Tom Cruise is very convincing.
I am a new arrival american, there would be no reason for my service other than the fact that they're offering it to anybody, and the reasons to serve are self explanatory. I don't know where or with who I should cut my teeth, but I can't grow up being a nobody. My ideal would be finding some way to get in on PMCs after my years, or like Peter Camp joining Nationalists in Spain. Some adventure in that sense.
If I join right out of high school, it'll be with Trump as my Commander in Chief or not at all.
The US Coast Guard is the whitest branch and provides you with the highest chance of seeing action. Furthermore, the Coast Guard deports Haitians, effecting TND (Total Nigger Deportation). I personally recommend joining the USCG because it provides useful training and doesn't have an awful quality of life like other branches. After you get out, you could use your skills in a Private Maritime Security Company, guarding merchant vessels from pirates, but I am not very knowledgeable in this domain.
If you serve and are honorably discharged, you are now a "veteran" and are generally accorded the same privileged legal status when dealing with government bureaucracies as The Diverse. If you start a business, or apply to college or a government agency, you're not longer a White Male but a veteran. The GI bill is also nothing to sneeze at. If this is what you're after, join the Air Force or Coast Guard in a job that either has a high ASVAB requirement (so you won't be around retarded niggers) or at least that you reasonably think would be cool (like Loadmaster). Don't do anything that requires an extended contract.
You should be very cautious about attempting to become a Bronze Age Warrior through service in the US military if you are not already athletic and physically fit. A reasonable expectation from a few years of service in a "combat" job is that for the rest of your life, you won't be useless if you need to take up arms again. An unreasonable expectation is that you'll be one of the Emperor's Chosen or something.
hoshinogroyper Wrote:If I join right out of high school, it'll be with Trump as my Commander in Chief or not at all.
I wish I were BronzeAgePilled when I graduated HS, I would've gone and joined as Trump was president then. It's technically not too late to join now, but at this point I have other ideas--perhaps joining the Trumpian Deportation Squads.
I've been thinking lately about something parallel to this. I love Trump and believe he will do everything in his power to fix things, but overcoming nearly a century of the degradation of the government and military into a bureaucratic nightmare is very unlikely at best; thus, I don't think joining the military if you're a bit older is the right move even with Trump in office.
I envision a parallel military organization, privately controlled, not beholden to the US gov't, and one that trains its own men from the ground up. I envision a company like early Blackwater (focused mainly on training) but with a training pool open to any man and taking security--later counter-terror and counter-insurgency--contracts. This company would obviously only be appealing to men of an adventurous spirit and would provide them an outlet from the extremely controlled Western society of today.
As for how to establish such a company, it would obviously take a lot of money, but also men with the experience and expertise--something that is not at all lacking on our side. Furthermore, there are many companies out there that already do training, albeit for an organization of some sort. I don't know of any that train men from the ground up like what I'm suggesting.
Aizen Wrote:hoshinogroyper Wrote:If I join right out of high school, it'll be with Trump as my Commander in Chief or not at all.
I envision a parallel military organization, privately controlled, not beholden to the US gov't, and one that trains its own men from the ground up. I envision a company like early Blackwater (focused mainly on training) but with a training pool open to any man and taking security--later counter-terror and counter-insurgency--contracts. This company would obviously only be appealing to men of an adventurous spirit and would provide them an outlet from the extremely controlled Western society of today.
As for how to establish such a company, it would obviously take a lot of money, but also men with the experience and expertise--something that is not at all lacking on our side. Furthermore, there are many companies out there that already do training, albeit for an organization of some sort. I don't know of any that train men from the ground up like what I'm suggesting.
I think any serious security company would ask for at the minimum a year of military service, even if they were hiring human fodder. This is the case with every single private security company I looked into, and it seems sensible to me, it would be the easiest way to screen for candidates who have at least minimum practical knowledge in handling firearms and other machinery, maintaining discipline, and basic combat tactics. And among those, only the physically fit would bother applying to join, anyway. If one seeks to join such private security companies or even try forming one, they may have to go through at least a year of government military service, both for the service record and for connections with other men who would be willing to do such work with you.
thankyoucomeagain Wrote:I think any serious security company would ask for at the minimum a year of military service, even if they were hiring human fodder. This is the case with every single private security company I looked into, and it seems sensible to me, it would be the easiest way to screen for candidates who have at least minimum practical knowledge in handling firearms and other machinery, maintaining discipline, and basic combat tactics.
Yes I agree, as I state in the last paragraph of my post
Quote:As for how to establish such a company, it would obviously take a lot of money, but also men with the experience and expertise--something that is not at all lacking on our side.
Such a company would have to start from that point, ideally with Tier 1 operators forming the core of training and operations. The point is that military life, adventure, etc. is becoming increasingly impossible in current US armed forces. I'm optimistic for a Trvmp II presidency, but the military will continue to be a job program for women and minorities, albeit more well armed than under Obama or Biden (Obama III).
Just because such a company doesn't exist already doesn't mean it can. In fact--it means that there is a huge recruitment pool of young men of adventurous spirit with nowhere to go as an outlet because no one else has seized the opportunity. Blackwater became so strong in the first place because it seized the opportunity of training existing forces. I'm saying do the same but for training fresh recruits. Obviously there would have to be standards to be accepted to training, a physical test, background check, mental fitness test, etc., but there's no rule that states "You must have completed X time in a standing military", this is just convention.
Even after training, you wouldn't be sending men into warzones out of the gate--compare to the GWOT where you'd get 8 weeks of basic then you get sent to Fallujah. This is contract work, meaning that men select the jobs they want to take within reason. I envision something similar to what you see in isekai where the adventurer's guild gives jobs of certain difficulty ranks. Of course you wouldn't give an S or A tier contract to a fresh D or E tier recruit.
Of course, this isn't something that can be done overnight. Developing this is a decades long project, but it's worth it as both an outlet for young men and a catalyst for the world to come.
elhanan Wrote:The US Coast Guard is the whitest branch and provides you with the highest chance of seeing action. Furthermore, the Coast Guard deports Haitians, effecting TND (Total Nigger Deportation). I personally recommend joining the USCG because it provides useful training and doesn't have an awful quality of life like other branches. After you get out, you could use your skills in a Private Maritime Security Company, guarding merchant vessels from pirates, but I am not very knowledgeable in this domain.
Perhaps the only good duty, and hopefully expanded under Trump.
I definitely need a lot more experience and exposure before making any choices. I'm highly considering a position like what the CG offers.
Unformed Golem Wrote:If you serve and are honorably discharged, you are now a "veteran" and are generally accorded the same privileged legal status when dealing with government bureaucracies as The Diverse. If you start a business, or apply to college or a government agency, you're not longer a White Male but a veteran. The GI bill is also nothing to sneeze at. If this is what you're after, join the Air Force or Coast Guard in a job that either has a high ASVAB requirement (so you won't be around retarded niggers) or at least that you reasonably think would be cool (like Loadmaster). Don't do anything that requires an extended contract.
You should be very cautious about attempting to become a Bronze Age Warrior through service in the US military if you are not already athletic and physically fit. A reasonable expectation from a few years of service in a "combat" job is that for the rest of your life, you won't be useless if you need to take up arms again. An unreasonable expectation is that you'll be one of the Emperor's Chosen or something.
It would please me greatly to just be a capable man. In my area, the spic-negrosis is terminal. I hate seeing all these promising young American boys either poisoned by the kulcha, or completely tapped out and drugged. Nobody knows what the future holds. Nobody knows what will get any of us a stable life. More than that, something for a fufilling life. The only options presented are subservience to the Great Society, muh STEM and trades I guess. I know they all feel it, even if they could never articulate it.
The framing of the thread, with regards to my original question in the shoutbox was really just a curiousity as to whether or not something like striving to be a top aviator or some other skilled career position could outweigh the sheer negatives. I think probably not. I guess I'm not the best model either, being a non-White American.
Aizen Wrote:hoshinogroyper Wrote:If I join right out of high school, it'll be with Trump as my Commander in Chief or not at all.
I wish I were BronzeAgePilled when I graduated HS, I would've gone and joined as Trump was president then. It's technically not too late to join now, but at this point I have other ideas--perhaps joining the Trumpian Deportation Squads.
I've been thinking lately about something parallel to this. I love Trump and believe he will do everything in his power to fix things, but overcoming nearly a century of the degradation of the government and military into a bureaucratic nightmare is very unlikely at best; thus, I don't think joining the military if you're a bit older is the right move even with Trump in office.
It sure beats half-heartedly trying to keep afloat in some STEM field against striving bugmen. I would much rather put in a full pivot, which means further distancing from college and a degree job. At obvoius risk as well, while also pissing off the parents. I hate most feeling behind physically.
At this point I KNOW I get more out of sport than any class. Privateering as the endgoal career would probably feed my spirit most. I don't think any desk work, no matter, could ever make a difference for anything. The idea of shooting rebels in Africa or even simply standing guard in some shithole lights a fire for me.
hoshinogroyper Wrote:It sure beats half-heartedly trying to keep afloat in some STEM field against striving bugmen. I would much rather put in a full pivot, which means further distancing from college and a degree job.
I don't know what your situation is, but if you're able and intelligent I'd suggest going to school for STEM--not to have a normal one and get a job, but because it gives you options. If you have some engineering degree, you will be that much more valuable in any future contract work for one thing. I'm not satisfied with where I'm currently at in life, but I know after I graduate that I'll be good for money even if certain projects fail.
Quote:The idea of shooting rebels in Africa lights a fire for me
Me too king. Joining the Trump Deportation Force may be very fun.
Aizen Wrote:hoshinogroyper Wrote:It sure beats half-heartedly trying to keep afloat in some STEM field against striving bugmen. I would much rather put in a full pivot, which means further distancing from college and a degree job.
I don't know what your situation is, but if you're able and intelligent I'd suggest going to school for STEM--not to have a normal one and get a job, but because it gives you options. If you have some engineering degree, you will be that much more valuable in any future contract work for one thing. I'm not satisfied with where I'm currently at in life, but I know after I graduate that I'll be good for money even if certain projects fail.
I must've been just that demoralized by school to forget the value of a degree. Reason sort of leaves you when you start pulling hairs sitting through it. I had those blues going in where you start to realize intelligence is not 1:1 academic performance, and you have no idea what you're worth.
Civil engineering is good, and is easily applicable as a sapper.
hoshinogroyper Wrote:I must've been just that demoralized by school to forget the value of a degree.
I made the mistake of quitting school for several years because I was demoralized in the same way. If I had graduated when I was supposed to, I'd be a multimillionaire by now, and I say that with no exaggeration.
Would you join the military if you were a multimillionaire? If not, then don't join the military. It sounds like you are poor and coping. Find a better way to make a living.
BillyONare Wrote:It sounds like you are poor and coping.
I am poor, but I'm not coping. I graduate in one year. My living is my parents helping me pay my way through school. I don't think you read me correctly. If I had done things properly, I would have graduated several years ago with a form of a very lucrative STEM degree with, by now, several million $ in various cryptocurrencies. I'm not there right now because I had to either sell my crypto to live on or lost it trying to make my living through trading because that was my only way of making money (besides a shit job).
This isn't a way to "cope" you fucking nigger, this is my reality of painful regret, and I'm giving advice to the OP based on my own personal experience so he doesn't have to deal with the shit I did and the regret I still have.
I was addressing OP. I’m agreeing with you.
Can you visualize a bullet soaring through your skull and emulsifying your brain in an instant? If so, go Army. Can you look forwards to losing your best friends to an IED? If so, go Army. The $25k a year better be worth it.
[Would you join the military if you were a multimillionaire?]
[No] [GoArmy]
Aizen Wrote:BillyONare Wrote:It sounds like you are poor and coping.
I am poor, but I'm not coping. I graduate in one year. My living is my parents helping me pay my way through school. I don't think you read me correctly. If I had done things properly, I would have graduated several years ago with a form of a very lucrative STEM degree with, by now, several million $ in various cryptocurrencies. I'm not there right now because I had to either sell my crypto to live on or lost it trying to make my living through trading because that was my only way of making money (besides a shit job).
This isn't a way to "cope" you fucking nigger, this is my reality of painful regret, and I'm giving advice to the OP based on my own personal experience so he doesn't have to deal with the shit I did and the regret I still have.
you are mega delulu, you would be a crypto millionaire (lottery) if only you graduated with a faek degree on time lmao
guest-coon Wrote:you are mega delulu, you would be a crypto millionaire (lottery) if only you graduated with a faek degree on time lmao
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