Abortion and Infanticide
#21
(05-05-2022, 02:50 PM)cats Wrote: Consider:
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This isn't to say that abortion is a eugenics program; it is most certainly not. That being said, it mostly just takes 'groids off the street, and if we account for Hispanics in that White proportion, Whites abort at disproportionately lower rates compared to their demographic share of the United States. I have a hard time seeing this as anything beyond just another surrogate issue for the right to not deal with the fact that demographic doom is the most pressing issue civilization faces today.

This is retarded and a form of wignat “magic demographics” thinking. The percentage of white people does not matter at all; the total amount of white people does. If we took your moronic idea of killing a white person in exchange for killing a brown person to your logical conclusion then the white race would be extinct and there would still be 6 billion groids. Civilization does not collapse when white people dip under X percent of the population; it collapses when there is not a critical mass of white people to maintain it. One white person is worth 10,000 of any other race, not a one for one ratio.
#22
Skimmed through this thread a bit and I'm taking a pro-life stance. I believe one of the biggest social blights facing the West is the removal of the high stakes surrounding sex turning the act into a boring, overly calculated and almost legalistic interaction between the two genders.

It sounds like an annoying libshit "gotcha-ism" but about 99% of our ancestors got together through shotgun marriages - I'd argue it was the norm. 

Pro-choice is a type of longhouse thinking not in that it "liberates" women but through the overbearing need to quantify and compress life and tie it down to the agricultural/farming growing and harvest cycles where conditions need to be "perfect" instead of life happening and taking mastery over the present situation. The ultimate manifestation of this neuroticism is the 32yr old childless female with a PHD never finding the "one" and having another "talking phase" fall through due to finding out their astrological signs didn't match. 


The tryst with the farmer's daughter in a barn a few acres outside of town turning into a dynastic origin story for a family of 12 in Minnesota vs. the dating app "netflix and chill" drunk sterile nullifying condom hookup sex of the 2020's.
#23
(05-08-2022, 03:22 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: Skimmed through this thread a bit and I'm taking a pro-life stance.

Nobody here is pro-choice. Are you pro-life or anti-choice? These aren't the same thing.
#24
(05-08-2022, 09:20 PM)anthony Wrote: Nobody here is pro-choice. Are you pro-life or anti-choice? These aren't the same thing.

"Anti-choice" in this framing because I believe in a woman's choice was fully exercised when she decided to lay on her back and spread her legs, even though I used the term "Pro-Life" that doesn't equate to me pining for a foreign aid induced bantuworld.

Don't really care if the black population increases a few percentage points if abortion becomes illegal. Witnessed multiple lineages end under the current status quo of gender relations ex: an intelligent woman who terminated her pregnancy in college to pursue higher honors in education when she would have been better off birthing the child instead of being a genetic dead end. It is more "eugenic" for a woman to have a child at 16 and unplanned pregnancies leading to people getting their shit together - arguably the norm. A large amount of genes for intelligence are on the X chromosome and the loss will be substantial if something is not turned around.

Life is a struggle, it should be in our best ability to take it as it goes rather than waiting for the conditions to be "perfect" because they almost never will be especially when women are making the decision.
#25
(05-09-2022, 01:28 AM)FruitVendor Wrote:
(05-08-2022, 09:20 PM)anthony Wrote: Nobody here is pro-choice. Are you pro-life or anti-choice? These aren't the same thing.

Life is a struggle, it should be in our best ability to take it as it goes rather than waiting for the conditions to be "perfect" because they almost never will be especially when women are making the decision.

Better idea, why don't we invest in making life as little of a struggle as possible for better people? Your outlook reads very "we should make the best of these situations" but a lot of things you're treating as inevitable and immutable aren't.
#26
(05-09-2022, 01:38 AM)anthony Wrote: Better idea, why don't we invest in making life as little of a struggle as possible for better people? Your outlook reads very "we should make the best of these situations" but a lot of things you're treating as inevitable and immutable aren't.

I'm arguing that currently women having their right to abort a child revoked is better because the current sentiment of trying to make life as comfortable and planned out as possible (in this instance) is folly and leads to 35 yr old childless women with a PHD who were always waiting for these perfect conditions that would never arrive and self select out of the genepool because they were handed authority they never were meant to truly handle.

You can recover from lower racial caste populations increasing, you cannot when the genetic pool of actual intelligent women runs dry. Ideally in basedworld we would just automatically pair up high IQ people but my post was more towards dealing with the present and with my experiences I believe Roe V Wade going away is ultimately a good thing.
#27
If Roe v Wade being overturned leads to the possibility of overturning other pozzed decisions, and causes more instability in the American system while in return will increase the chances of American Caesar/Red State Secession, then I am for it.
America needs to collapse and be rebuilt.
#28
(05-07-2022, 07:14 PM)BillyONare Wrote: This is retarded and a form of wignat “magic demographics” thinking. The percentage of white people does not matter at all; the total amount of white people does. If we took your moronic idea of killing a white person in exchange for killing a brown person to your logical conclusion then the white race would be extinct and there would still be 6 billion groids. Civilization does not collapse when white people dip under X percent of the population; it collapses when there is not a critical mass of white people to maintain it. One white person is worth 10,000 of any other race, not a one for one ratio.

What about my post makes you think I believe that 'groids are worth as much as a White person?

Yes, a smaller contingent of White people can achieve much even in a country with demographics badly out of their favor -- provided their section of society is closed off to the problem population. White people can't build and maintain anything of value if the colored hordes are there to destroy it all the instant it is raised with no recourse. Last I checked, 'groids can vote and we are legally barred from preventing them from entering our communities or otherwise disassembling our society. Hence, demographics matter to an extreme degree.

Consider this, too: blacks and browns are ugly, loud, and generally unpleasant, and if they are to be in my country I want them to be as minimal a proportion of the population as possible.
#29
(05-09-2022, 02:02 AM)FruitVendor Wrote:
(05-09-2022, 01:38 AM)anthony Wrote: Better idea, why don't we invest in making life as little of a struggle as possible for better people? Your outlook reads very "we should make the best of these situations" but a lot of things you're treating as inevitable and immutable aren't.

I'm arguing that currently women having their right to abort a child revoked is better because the current sentiment of trying to make life as comfortable and planned out as possible (in this instance) is folly and leads to 35 yr old childless women with a PHD who were always waiting for these perfect conditions that would never arrive and self select out of the genepool because they were handed authority they never were meant to truly handle. 

You can recover from lower racial caste populations increasing, you cannot when the genetic pool of actual intelligent women runs dry. Ideally in basedworld we would just automatically pair up high IQ people but my post was more towards dealing with the present and with my experiences I believe Roe V Wade going away is ultimately a good thing.

If you think too much comfort is the reason we have 35 year old childless PHDs there's a lot you don't get. Our society is not currently built around comfort. PHDs wouldn't even exist if we were to reorient society around the comfort of better people. Education becoming a marathon-race is a joke we only keep up to employ mediocre people and allow other mediocre people to effortmax their way above their betters. Abortions aren't a true comfort measure, they're a pressure release trick to keep the exploitation and misery going. Imagine if the state offered liposuction to obese office workers. Would you call that a comfort measure? The true comfort measure would be getting them out of the office.

Kind of a tangent but I think this is so important it can never be said enough. Our society actively brutalises its finest members. The solutions to half of our worst problems are things we need society to *stop* doing.
#30
(05-10-2022, 08:54 AM)anthony Wrote: If you think too much comfort is the reason we have 35 year old childless PHDs there's a lot you don't get. Our society is not currently built around comfort. PHDs wouldn't even exist if we were to reorient society around the comfort of better people. Education becoming a marathon-race is a joke we only keep up to employ mediocre people and allow other mediocre people to effortmax their way above their betters. Abortions aren't a true comfort measure, they're a pressure release trick to keep the exploitation and misery going. Imagine if the state offered liposuction to obese office workers. Would you call that a comfort measure? The true comfort measure would be getting them out of the office.

Kind of a tangent but I think this is so important it can never be said enough. Our society actively brutalises its finest members. The solutions to half of our worst problems are things we need society to *stop* doing.

Society is 100% oriented around comfort to the point it peddles lies on top of being obtuse to nature. A weird inversion where people who actually keep the engine of society going getting placed under the thumb of useless comfort seeking beancounters and fluff. The cancer currently killing the west is a gerontocracy of materialists (Boomers) willing to put civilization on a sacrificial altar by importing the 3rd world just to pad pensions for a few more years of comfort. The global economy was leveled for 2 years over fear of catching a cold. The older generation in France just re-elected Macron while the younger wanted the alternative. 

The example of the 35yr old childless PHD was based around schooling turning into an adult daycare and the notion that a woman doesn't need to adhere to biological reality of fertility or what the opposite sex is even attracted to. College was an elite institution that has been destroyed due to comfort, the capable will more than likely have to bail out the debt riddled idiots in the near future. Even if it never gets passed into law the fact this is somehow to be expected is disastrous. 


Life being a struggle isn't "good" or "bad" - it just simply is. Man's life in this reality to gain mastery of what's around him or simply be indifferent to it. On a philosophical level pessimism is the engine that keeps life going. There has never been a period of time in existence where we have been this disconnected from life and death and it rears its ugly head in many ways.
#31
I am with Anthony on this one. America is not a society built around comfort, and the things you are describing are not caused by "comfort" in any respect. Boomers are people who made their spines misshapen and their bodies obese by working hour after hour in cramped cubicles and insist that the younger generations do the same. The fact that they are largely okay with importing the entirety of the third world to keep American industry running is just proof that they hold a toxic idea of what the relationship between society and industry should be.

Schooling might be a daycare for 'groids who put no effort into anything and still get into Ivy Leagues owing to their skin color, but for everyone else, it is a stressful rat race at best and a living hell at worst, especially for the creatives that would've made up the intellectual classes of European and American society not a hundred years ago. I would be hard pressed to describe any aspect of the life of the 35 year old childless Ph.D. as "comfortable". As someone with some knowledge of what post-graduate study actually entails, it's unpleasant, monotonous, and dictated by hundreds of guidelines that stifle all creativity. Not a comfort-oriented mind to be found in that sort of environment.

I don't know what else to say regarding this topic. Ironically, the people who most closely share your mindset regarding comfort are the boomers themselves. America is not a society that values comfort whatsoever.
#32
Boomers sat on unprecedented levels of wealth after all world powers destroyed themselves in two back to back 8 figure bodycount wars. They watched man go to the moon and back on television- gave up, got fat and socialized society. They're okay with importing Africa because the idea of not being able to live with an incredibly high level of comfort is worse than death.

Schooling is in its current state because we believe the comfortable notion that everyone can get a shot they just need to study really hard and work hard- this idiocy being backed by federal loans.
(Gov lending on the basis of "equality" and everyone getting a shot is always disastrous and contrary to the true sentiment of successful investing- the root cause of 08 was the fair housing legislation of the 90s.)

"There is no real hierarchical innate difference in people's intelligence - don't be racist/sexist." We all know the great list of repeated lies.

To even get into college in the 1900s you had to be well learned into both Greek and Latin, the modern matriculate knows neither. An Aristocratic meritocratic institution turned into a credentialist mess of showing face and repeating accepted state sponsored opinions and "equality" that arguably does the opposite of setting up or a successful life. School is retarded busywork because how else are you going to filter people out with the sheer volume of applicants?

America and the West is now oriented around comfort of the elderly and the risk averse while telling the youth they can achieve the same levels of wealth and comfort when the economics and conditions of the post WW2 economy are nonexistent. America was never about comfort and completely antithetical to boomer nature. It was about escaping the straightjacket of europe, getting a shot at something new and being granted the agency to make it or go out on your own terms. This would later metastasize into the smothering idea of "freedom" and "equality". Meritocracy always involves a winner and a loser, a skilled and unskilled - not the comfort seeking socialized "everyone can make it" view we currently have. Perhaps I'm biased because I dropped out, took a risk and now run a business and survived after the 2 years of lockdown idiocy while my relative completed the backbreaking route of aerospace eng making less on top of the unpayable debt weighing over him like a sisyphean boulder.
#33
(05-10-2022, 08:54 AM)anthony Wrote: Kind of a tangent but I think this is so important it can never be said enough. Our society actively brutalises its finest members. The solutions to half of our worst problems are things we need society to *stop* doing.
Agreed that this cannot be said enough. For all the hate she gets from normies, this is actually one of the great insights of Ayn Rand that she constantly emphasizes throughout her novels. In her novels, the Great Man is constantly held back by bureaucratic red-tape and government interference. This is no different than today, except we've enormously expanded things like HR programs and GIBS programs for functional retards. Every journalist today is an Ellsworth Toohey seething about his betters, attempting to destroy them through smear campaigns and eliciting public opinion to demolish everything they're trying to achieve. Someone like Elon Musk gets treated like The Devil by the liberal media simply for being a successful businessman who doesn't want to kowtow to his inferiors. 

If we look at the programs that provide "comfort" to the population, the vast majority are going to the dysgenic. Who is vastly overrepresented in receiving welfare payments and food stamps? Dumb blacks. Who do most educational 'affirmative action' spots go to? Poor blacks. It's an open secret that we continually coddle blacks in education, and all it does is harm society. Imagine being a middle-class, intelligent White would-be doctor who's spot at an Ivy League med school is taken by some low-class nog that got to go to college for free (while you had to pay), and who nonetheless did worse than you on both tests in undergrad and the MCAT. Who is being comforted here? The very worst members of society, the exact opposite of who should be given comfort in our society. Affirmative action programs and diversity hiring are a war against the competent, and it disgusts me that people sat down and allowed it to happen. Now it's our job to undo the mess our elders made. It could and should be the case that the people getting free educations are the smartest, most talented people. Not dumb minorities or women. We've essentially constructed a Harrison Bergeron Society where the more successful you are, the more society takes from you and the less it gives you. The retarded are rewarded for being retarded, and the talented are expected to hold up the world for them, like Atlas.
#34
"Maybe they shouldn't..."

Maybe the worthy should go NEET for a few years, effectively killing the world, and then re-organizing it to be a society based on brutality, extremism, mass normgroid slaughter in gladiatorial games, cannibalism, just you know the standard salt the wound social torture amplified in every possible manner with the eternal groid on the receiving end. It would be funny I think.
#35
(05-11-2022, 01:48 AM)Svevlad Wrote: Maybe the worthy should go NEET for a few years, effectively killing the world, and then re-organizing it to be a society based on brutality, extremism, mass normgroid slaughter in gladiatorial games, cannibalism, just you know the standard salt the wound social torture amplified in every possible manner with the eternal groid on the receiving end. It would be funny I think.
NEET'S GULCH AWAITS US
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#36
(05-07-2022, 01:27 AM)Hardcore Happiness Wrote: Abortion is LITERALLY heckin' DEMONIC

Have faith, incel

Touch rosary 

You are NOT having a blessed one

Oof, this ain't it my brother in Christ

Coal
#37
(11-28-2022, 07:18 PM)Guest Wrote: Coal

Explain to me right now with facts and logic why it's wrong to blow a retarded nigger baby's head off
#38
(11-28-2022, 07:21 PM)Leverkühn Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 07:18 PM)Guest Wrote: Coal

Explain to me right now with facts and logic why it's wrong to blow a retarded nigger baby's head off

I never said it was wrong you faggot, he was using shitson and no arrow. Instant coal.
#39
(11-28-2022, 07:21 PM)Leverkühn Wrote: Explain to me right now with facts and logic why it's wrong to blow a retarded nigger baby's head off

There are some things God wills be done, that He does not will be done by His children.
#40
The "it increases the ratio of white people to black people" argument is retarded. Why would I care about the ratio of white people to black people? I only care about the absolute number of white people. There are four times as many whites as blacks in the US. The wignats are saying that if you kill three black people and one white person it's a good thing because you improved the ratio. i.e. they are also saying that one black person is worth four white people. Proceed with the motte and bailey that "actually I just want black people to have infinite abortions and white people to never have abortions"; the political debate is either abortions being legal or abortions being illegal and clearly the latter is better for white people and the wignats tried to say that the latter is cucked.


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