Alpinid overrepresentation in long-term kidnapping + rape cases
#1
Hello all,

Today I will be writing on a curious racial phenomenon which I have observed during my studies. I am sure that most of you are at least passingly familiar with the old "three races" model of European biology, those being the long-skulled pale Nordids in the North, the long-skulled dark Mediterranids in the South, and the short-skulled dark Alpinids in the mountainous Center. It is this last race, which I personally believe represents an ancient pre-Aryan element in Europe, and likely represent (along with most Mediterraneans - most purely of both the primitive Sardinians) the descendants of the Middle Eastern-looking Early European Farmers who came out of Anatolia into Europe in the Neolithic, displacing the indigenous blue-eyed Western Hunter Gatherers and bringing with them agriculture, longhouses, and small statues of morbidly obese women. Alpinids are the typical "Continental European peasant phenotype," with light skin, dark brown hair and eyes, short stature, a heavy endomorphic build, short limbs proportional to their trunks, short and upturned "snub" noses, and a brachycephalic skull (i.e. broader proportional to its length). They are typical of Central France, Southern Germany, Central Italy, Southern coastal Norway, and of course, the Alps as a whole.

For visual reference:

Human Phenotypes - West Alpinid

Typical Alpinids:

[Image: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/11/02/...5c28f2.jpg]

Alpinid range in Europe (not including the notable coastal Norwegian population):

[Image: http://humanphenotypes.net/westalpinid.gif]

Now, I am sure that many of you have also heard of the frightening Josef Fritzl case from Austria. For those who don't, here is a brief summary:

Quote:The Fritzl case emerged in 2008, when a woman named Elisabeth Fritzl (born 6 April 1966) told police in the town of Amstetten, Lower Austria, Austria, that she had been held captive for 24 years by her father, Josef Fritzl (born 9 April 1935). J. Fritzl had assaulted, sexually abused, and raped his daughter repeatedly during her imprisonment inside a concealed area in the cellar of the family home. The abuse resulted in the birth of seven children: three of them remained in captivity with their mother; one had died just days after birth at the hands of J. Fritzl, who disposed of his body in an incinerator; and the other three were brought up by J. Fritzl and his wife, Rosemarie, having been reported as foundlings.

Horrifying and terrible, unthinkable to us! Let us observe the perpetrator:

[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/4G3uCg4gXo...lkZWQuanBn]

While he certainly has some undeniable Nordid admixture, the short-skulled, big-forehead Alpinid peasant element is clearly visible and dominant.

But it gets more interesting. We can see that there are a number of strikingly similar cases of men kidnapping women (often their own daughters!) and locking them up in a basement to rape and impregnate for decades. Observe, and note both the location and the phenotype.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Gouardo

Quote:Lydia Gouardo (born 13 November 1962) is a French woman, born in Maisons-Alfort, Val-de-Marne, who was imprisoned for 28 years, raped, and tortured by her stepfather, Raymond Gouardo, in their home in Meaux and Coulommes in Seine et Marne. The abuse took place from 1971 to 1999.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/bMkmwt0rjI...E3ODEuanBn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongelli_case

Quote:Michele Mongelli (born 1945) is a man from Turin [Turin = Etruria = Etruscan! = Pre-Aryan], Italy, who was arrested on 27 March 2009 for allegedly sexually abusing his daughter over 25 years. His son Giuseppe (born 1968) was also arrested on the allegation of abusing his sister and his own four daughters.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/IT11ptqImI...0/MjMuanBn]

Oops!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch

Quote:Natascha Maria Kampusch (born 17 February 1988) is an Austrian author and former talk show host. At the age of 10, on 2 March 1998, she was abducted and held in a secret cellar by her kidnapper Wolfgang Přiklopil for more than eight years, until she escaped on 23 August 2006.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/q8McYeZ9a-...MTZjZDhkNA]
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/UdIFGsFGxE...3BpbC5qcGc]

Hello there, darkie! Looks like the Proto-Indo-Europeans had some trouble purging you filthy agglutinative Middle Eastern farmers up in those mountain caves you love.


However, we also see similar crimes being committed by members of South America's resident brachycephalic mountain race, the Andids:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armando_Lucero

Quote:Armando Lucero (1942 – May 5, 2010) was an Argentine man arrested in 2009 on charges of raping one of his daughters over a period of 20 years. He was alleged to have fathered seven children with her, and also to have raped two of his other daughters. He was arrested when his daughter went to the police after fears he would abuse her own children.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/3YpIYE0ghs...U1N2MuanBn]

He was from around Mendoza in Andean Western Argentina.

We also have another Argentinian, Domingo Bulacio, from the north central province of Santiago del Estero. He (pictured on the left) looks rather Alpinid IMO, which would make sense considering the high proportion of Germans and Italians in Argentina. He clearly also has some Amerindian admixture.

Quote:Domingo Bulacio, alias Vernacho, 56, was charged with sexual abuse and incest when he appeared in a court in Santiago del Estero province, in north central Argentina. The court even heard that his relatives know of what was going on but did nothing about it.

[...]

Bulacio was arrested in January 2016 when his daughter told doctors in Las Termas de Rio Hondo that she had raped for more than two decades by her own father. It was also reported that she had giving birth at least eight times.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/C6imTcRQwK...Np/by5qcGc]

Finally, for our third Andid, we have Arcedio Álvarez Quintero, from Mariquita in the Andean region of Tolima in Colombia.

Quote:The Álvarez incest case was uncovered late March 2009 when 59-year-old Arcedio Álvarez was arrested in Mariquita, Colombia, accused of imprisoning and sexually abusing his daughter Alba Nidia Álvarez over a period of 25 years, beginning from when she was 9 years old. The daughter also gave birth to 14 children, 6 of whom died due to lack of medical care.
[Image: https://imgs.search.brave.com/XTQtTpN-bR...aXRhLmpwZw]

I believe that this is both a racial and geographic phenomenon, i.e. it is not specific to the particularities of one race, but is rather a convergent trait of mountain-dwelling races (whether or not they are currently living in mountains, see Raymond Gouardo living outside of Paris), likely stemming from primitive instincts to kidnap a bride and hide her in a cave which their Stone Age mountain troglodyte ancestors evolved. There are, of course, a number of similar cases which arose in the Anglophone world, but none feature so distinct a racial overrepresentation as these. Please give thoughts.
#2
I had a similar thought as well - but associate it more with hoarding behavior. Alps and other such mountainous places can be quite harsh, and encourage extreme hoarding behaviors which can probably be mismatched with the sexual sectors...

However, on the other hand I haven't heard of such cases from Anatolia, the Caucasus, Tibet etc, all very mountainous as well, with their own subraces. Wonder why...
#3
You are insane if you believe them to be Half Arabs or extremely disimilar from North Germanics, the average Austrian maybe has a darker blonde and a slighty more tanned skin than the average Dane, but that's it
#4
(11-30-2022, 04:37 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote: You are insane if you believe them to be Half Arabs or extremely disimilar from North Germanics, the average Austrian maybe has a darker blonde and a slighty more tanned skin than the average Dane, but that's it

To quote The Arch-Racist, I am a scientific racist and you have a Moroccan grade of reading comprehension. Obviously if you take the abstract "average" of the people within an arbitrary line on a map and compare it to the composite average of a neighbor, they will not look particularly similar. Races/phenotypes cross national, linguistic, and cultural boundaries across the world, as languages are usually spread not by people with common ancestry spreading out and colonizing (cf. North America) but rather by a small band of warriors conquering a group of aborigines and making them speak their language, thus transmitting their "ethnic" identity to these racial aliens (cf. the Spanish in Mesoamerica; Romans in Gaul, Dacia, Spain etc.; Turks in Anatolia, etc.). In this regard, Europe is a textbook case of the latter.

Let's break down the fundamentals:
First, genetics. Europeans are descended from three primary genetic groups: dark-haired & blue-eyed Western Hunter Gatherers (WHG's); darker-pigmented Early European Farmers (EEF's) who migrated from Anatolia in the Neolithic and are connected to longhouses, Venus statues, the Linear Pottery Culture, and haplogroup G2a; and the Western Steppe Herders (WSH's), who, after branching off from the Ancient North Eurasians of Siberia (who were also the ancestors of Amerindians), migrated out of the steppe north of the Black Sea and are connected with pastoralism, kurgans, the Indo-European languages, the Yamnaya, Corded Ware, and Bell Beaker cultures, horseback riding, patriarchy, blond hair, light skin, and haplogroups R1a and R1b.
[Image: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kri...n_Q640.jpg]
[Image: https://i0.wp.com/www.norwegianamerican....C546&ssl=1]

Next, phenotypes. While racial science has been forbidden for political reasons since the end of the Second World War, our forebears in Europe did quite a good job of identifying and categorizing the different physical groups of man, even without modern genetic science. Given that racial science is now forbidden in the West (and worldwide to a lesser degree), there has unfortunately been no project (to my knowledge) to connect these genetic groups to modern phenotypes by analyzing DNA percentage of people and grouping them by phenotype rather than by arbitrary geographic distribution or nationality (as in the images above). However, if we're smart we can conclude this on our own.

The first and most obvious connection is that the Nordic race is the phenotype of the Western Steppe Herders, based on the shape of skulls found at Yamnaya and related sites, the presence of the genes for blond hair, tall stature, and blue eyes in WSH remains, and the strongly overlapping geographic distribution.

The Eastern European Farmers we can connect to the Mediterranean race; their purest genetic descendants can be found among the short, dark, pug-faced, maggot-eating, elder-poisoning aboriginal Sardinians.

The Alpinids are a bit of mystery in this regard, but based on their darker complexion (i.e. lack of mutations for blond hair & blue eyes), short stature, and usual presence at the lower rungs of historical European societies (i.e. coolies under Aryan colonial rule), I think that they are a mountain-dwelling offshoot of the EEF's that evolved brachycephalic skulls and a macroskelic body in order to adapt to mountain dwelling.

Now, with that in mind, let us address your comment piece by piece.
Quote:You are insane if you believe them to be Half Arabs
I never said that they were "half-Arabs." The Basal Eurasian Farmer ancestry is thoroughly distant, on a scale of several millennia, in which time plenty of evolutionary divergence has occurred between the two; but they still stand united in opposition to the Aryan and his ideals.


Quote:or extremely disimilar from North Germanics


"Germanic" is a mostly irrelevant qualification here. As Varg was apt to say, African Americans are "Germanic" because they speak a Germanic language. Due to the common process of conquest and assimilation of racially alien subjects which I described above, linguistic, national, or even ethnic identities are often poor proxies for real biological difference. These people speak the same language, live in the same country, etc., yet, as European anthropologists first noticed long ago, distinct "types" seem to be present within certain areas. Not only are differences found, but these differences seem to be "clumped" with each other, i.e. in Germany long-skulled people are more often blond, blue-eyed, tall, and brachyskelic (longer limbs proportional to the trunk), whereas short-skulled people are more often brunet, brown-eyed, short, and macroskelic (shorter limbs proportional to the trunk). So there are not just random differences, but rather different types who have general ranges, becoming more mixed on their borders (cf. Sub-Nordid & Borreby types as examples of Nordid-Alpinid crosses).



Quote:the average Austrian maybe has a darker blonde and a slighty more tanned skin than the average Dane, but that's it

This is equivalent to saying that the "average American" is only slightly darker and curlier of hair than the average Briton, so therefore black people don't exist. Certainly, the racial divides in Europe are much narrower, older (giving them more time to dissolve at the margins via interbreeding), and far more disconnected from historical and modern societal status and political struggles (at least no explicitly or consciously) than those in post-Columbian Exchange America, but they nevertheless persist. More or less all serious (i.e. not beholden to the post-war cult of anti-racism) European physical anthropologists from the early nineteenth century through the late twentieth identified these three races - Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterannean - as being the three primary racial elements of Europe, and backed it up with extensive and repeated surveys of average stature, cephalic index, rate of blondness, etc., not by country but by city, which is a much higher-definition study and much more suitable for proper science. None of them ever said "all Scandinavians are Nordic" or "all Austrians are Alpine" or "all Italians are Mediterranean" - far from it, they instead focused much of their efforts on identifying the distribution of multiple different races within each nation. So yes, perhaps the "average Austrian" might look not too dissimilar from the "average Dane" (this is less of an "own" than you think it is, considering the significant Alpinid element in Denmark, see William Z. Ripley's The Races of Europe); but if we look at real individuals, rather than creating some imaginary New Man by taking all of the people of a certain geographic area and sticking them in a racial blender, we will see that there are indisputably two distinct primary types of Caucasian within Austria who, in spite of the presence of a number of hybrid individuals and contact types, maintain two very distinct appearances from each other - one is tall, slim, blond, light-eyed, dolichocephalic, and brachyskelic, whereas the other is short, heavyset, brunet, dark-eyed, brachycephalic, and macroskelic. See example charts with Italy and its Alpine, Mediterranean, and (to a lesser extent) Nordid races (including the Sardinian sub-race of the latter):
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/qdAofPu.png]
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[Image: https://i.imgur.com/PNmLErK.png]

In conclusion:
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#5
I appreciate the effort of your post, and i agree with most of it, homever, it's simply idiotic to consider, say, the Swiss to be manlets when the average male height is 178cm, and in Sweden 181cm, just 3cm of difference

And if Denmark and Norway both have sizeable Alpinid genes, what is the most pure Nordid country? Does it even exist?
#6
(12-01-2022, 03:00 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote: I appreciate the effort of your post, and i agree with most of it, homever, it's simply idiotic to consider, say, the Swiss to be manlets when the average male height is 178cm, and in Sweden 181cm, just 3cm of difference

And if Denmark and Norway both have sizeable Alpinid genes, what is the most pure Nordid country? Does it even exist?

I appreciate your good faith response. But once again you make the mistake of conflating race with nationality. "The Swiss" are not even a real nationality (a little German, a little French, a little Italian, a little Romansch...), and show a strong Nordid influence. Anyways, I may have made the mistake of exaggerating Alpinid shortness; they are only short relative to the towering Nordids, and actually represent the taller element in nations they share with the uniformly short & dark Mediterraneans (as can be seen in the charts of Italy I posted). Typical (European) Alpinid height range is ~160-185cm for post-industrial males; compare to the height ranges for Nordids (~170-195cm) and Mediterraneans (155-180) of the same demographic. A more proper description of Alpinids is "stocky," in that they appear shorter than they really are due to their body type (endomorphic, i.e. heavyset & fatty) and their skelic index (macroskelic, i.e. limbs shorter proportional to the trunk, like East Asians, Inuits, and, for an extreme example, midgets).

As for the purest Nordid country, the best contender is, at least according to Ripley, Sweden (excluding the Lappish north). Northwest and North-Central Germany are also strong contenders, as is Northern and Eastern Netherlands (excluding the more Alpinid Holland and Zeeland).
#7
(12-01-2022, 10:56 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: I appreciate your good faith response. But once again you make the mistake of conflating race with nationality. "The Swiss" are not even a real nationality (a little German, a little French, a little Italian, a little Romansch...), and show a strong Nordid influence. Anyways, I may have made the mistake of exaggerating Alpinid shortness; they are only short relative to the towering Nordids, and actually represent the taller element in nations they share with the uniformly short & dark Mediterraneans (as can be seen in the charts of Italy I posted). Typical (European) Alpinid height range is ~160-185cm for post-industrial males; compare to the height ranges for Nordids (~170-195cm) and Mediterraneans (155-180) of the same demographic. A more proper description of Alpinids is "stocky," in that they appear shorter than they really are due to their body type (endomorphic, i.e. heavyset & fatty) and their skelic index (macroskelic, i.e. limbs shorter proportional to the trunk, like East Asians, Inuits, and, for an extreme example, midgets).

As for the purest Nordid country, the best contender is, at least according to Ripley, Sweden (excluding the Lappish north). Northwest and North-Central Germany are also strong contenders, as is Northern and Eastern Netherlands (excluding the more Alpinid Holland and Zeeland).

I didn't say Swiss was a real nationality, ethnically it's mostly Swabian, with sizeable French and North Italian minorities in the peripheres, Austria, while still quite ethnically diverse, doesn't have nearly as much divergence as Switzerland, but of course, the Northwest is more similar to Swabia and the South to Venice and Lombardy

As for Height, while i believe you to be good intentioned, in my experience as an Spaniard (taller Atlanto-Mediterranid variant of the Mediterranid category) 155cm males are extremely rare, i myself don't recall ever meeting one, 190 ones being far more common (though obviously not enough to be average-ish, my father for example is 187), the average range that conforms the majority of the Atlanto-Mediterranid male Population is 170-185, Alpinids i imagine a bit higher at 172.5-187.5, and Nordids 175-190, based on observations, as there is not a wild height divergence between Atlanto-Mediterranids and Nordids from my understanding, as even in the Netherlands the average male height falls a bit short of 185
#8
Personally I believe the Alpinid types are mostly a mix of WHGs and EEFs, adapted to "extreme seasonality"

also word of caution re: the longhouse - most of the fat venus statues were self portraits and probably not objects of worship - pre-aryan european idols looked much stranger in general

I do wonder about the Dinaric type, though - logically we should be more stocky, like the Alpinids, but instead we're mostly pretty lanky despite the geography. Wat means?
#9
(12-03-2022, 10:52 AM)Svevlad Wrote: Wat means?

That you're retarded, apparently. Write in English.
#10
(12-03-2022, 10:52 AM)Svevlad Wrote: I do wonder about the Dinaric type, though - logically we should be more stocky, like the Alpinids, but instead we're mostly pretty lanky despite the geography. Wat means?

Dinarics are a curious reverse of the Alpinid - both are brachycephalic mountain-dwellers, but the former is lanky and long-nosed, the latter stocky and short-nosed. The two races of the mountains, the caves which underlie them, and the Inner Earth to which the caves eventually lead - the Goblin and the Dwarf.

(12-01-2022, 02:17 PM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 10:56 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: I appreciate your good faith response. But once again you make the mistake of conflating race with nationality. "The Swiss" are not even a real nationality (a little German, a little French, a little Italian, a little Romansch...), and show a strong Nordid influence. Anyways, I may have made the mistake of exaggerating Alpinid shortness; they are only short relative to the towering Nordids, and actually represent the taller element in nations they share with the uniformly short & dark Mediterraneans (as can be seen in the charts of Italy I posted). Typical (European) Alpinid height range is ~160-185cm for post-industrial males; compare to the height ranges for Nordids (~170-195cm) and Mediterraneans (155-180) of the same demographic. A more proper description of Alpinids is "stocky," in that they appear shorter than they really are due to their body type (endomorphic, i.e. heavyset & fatty) and their skelic index (macroskelic, i.e. limbs shorter proportional to the trunk, like East Asians, Inuits, and, for an extreme example, midgets).

As for the purest Nordid country, the best contender is, at least according to Ripley, Sweden (excluding the Lappish north). Northwest and North-Central Germany are also strong contenders, as is Northern and Eastern Netherlands (excluding the more Alpinid Holland and Zeeland).

I didn't say Swiss was a real nationality, ethnically it's mostly Swabian, with sizeable French and North Italian minorities in the peripheres, Austria, while still quite ethnically diverse, doesn't have nearly as much divergence as Switzerland, but of course, the Northwest is more similar to Swabia and the South to Venice and Lombardy

As for Height, while i believe you to be good intentioned, in my experience as an Spaniard (taller Atlanto-Mediterranid variant of the Mediterranid category) 155cm males are extremely rare, i myself don't recall ever meeting one, 190 ones being far more common (though obviously not enough to be average-ish, my father for example is 187), the average range that conforms the majority of the Atlanto-Mediterranid male Population is 170-185, Alpinids i imagine a bit higher at 172.5-187.5, and Nordids 175-190, based on observations, as there is not a wild height divergence between Atlanto-Mediterranids and Nordids from my understanding, as even in the Netherlands the average male height falls a bit short of 185

Hm, I neglected Atlanto-Meds in my Mediterranid height range calculations. If you are a Western or Northern Spaniard, then you would certainly be more thoroughly affected by ancestral Cro-Magnid roots and Nordid admixture from seafaring travelers (the Atlantid being simply a stabilized Nordid-Mediterranid hybrid built atop a basal Cro-Magnid foundation.


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