Datacop Wrote:I understand and agree with whats been said here, but I still wonder why particularly schizophrenia has become the hep mental illness for men, and, as a result of men liking it, women. I was falsely diagnosed with schizophrenia as a teenager and they had me attend group therapy with actual schizophrenics; all other young people, so I assume mostly hebephrenics with a small mix of catatonics. They are the most boring people you will ever meet, medicated or otherwise. They're all usually low IQ, not just midwit tier but genuine retardation cases, and their disorganization of thought just means they can't form any coherent idea, let alone vocalize it. Far from being holders of esoteric knowledge, real schizophrenics are some of the dullest, stupidest, most deserving of culling people in the world. Schizophrenia suffers in this regard from the same incorrect perception as psychopathy. Due to representations in entertainment and so on, when the average person hears about a psychopath they imagine some sophisticated dude killing people while classical music plays in the background or some cunning lawyer/doctor being nasty to his colleagues and then having amazing amounts of success due to his "misunderstood" malady.
In reality, the average psychopath is some low-IQ character committing heinous crimes because his brain does not have the processing power to model the sentiments of other people or to understand how his behaviour will be interpreted by others. As an aside, I found and read a while back a book by a francophone nigger called African Psycho that explored this very well - unlike Bateman, who was sophisticated etc. the protagonist of this book is a retarded alcoholic vantablack nigger who keeps trying and failing to commit heinous crimes because of how stupid he is. Pretty entertaining read.
Also, it seems to me that schizoposting is just the reinvention of the "lulz so random" characters from 2008-2012 - but this time cool, edgy, and reactionary.
ourokouros Wrote:Also, it seems to me that schizoposting is just the reinvention of the "lulz so random" characters from 2008-2012 - but this time cool, edgy, and reactionary.
I think it's more like Contrary's diagnosis of Adult Chunibyou phenomena.
From some random gamefaqs thread
Quote:Chuuni (中二, short for "chuunibyou," 中二病) is a Japanese slang term that translates to "middle school second-year syndrome" or "eighth-grader syndrome." Chuuni refers to a phase that some adolescents go through, typically around the age of 13 or 14, where they exhibit behavior such as having delusions of grandeur, seeking attention, or acting as if they possess special abilities or knowledge that others don't have.
Sound relevant to me.
I think that many people use the word schizophrenia when they should use manic depression (or bipolar disorder). The psychological state of mania is overrepresented with creative types. It’s a kind of overclocked pattern matching that heightens the meaning of imagined connections between things. This effect can be simulated with psychedelics, though for the average person a psychedelic experience tends to release tension (ego death), whereas mania increases internal tension. This tension can lead to a productive pursuit like art, but can also turn into an incomprehensible mess. Online, the latter is mistaken for schizo-posting because it’s hard to distinguish between the two without proper context. I would argue in almost all cases schizo-posting is actually someone with manic depression who is in an unproductive bout of mania.
kythustra Wrote:I think that many people use the word schizophrenia when they should use manic depression (or bipolar disorder). The psychological state of mania is overrepresented with creative types. It’s a kind of overclocked pattern matching that heightens the meaning of imagined connections between things. This effect can be simulated with psychedelics, though for the average person a psychedelic experience tends to release tension (ego death), whereas mania increases internal tension. This tension can lead to a productive pursuit like art, but can also turn into an incomprehensible mess. Online, the latter is mistaken for schizo-posting because it’s hard to distinguish between the two without proper context. I would argue in almost all cases schizo-posting is actually someone with manic depression who is in an unproductive bout of mania.
Real schizophrenia posting look like paranoia, lots of grammatical mistakes, and low energy. A classic in the genre of the real thing is a poster who talks about gang stalking. “There are black cars following me around” Or even physical sensations like “there are bugs crawling on my skin”.
The entire "schizoposter" ideology is just Nick Land's fetishization of capitalism and transhumanism with the value-judgements reversed. Land's oeuvre is full of posturing at being sinister which schizoposting needs to take seriously as the bedrock of its worldview. You see the same thing with hate-figures like Klaus Schwab or "Satanism" in pop music. Schizoposters and Hazoids are the mirror image of Nick Land's transgender accelerationist fans, who all react to him without getting beyond him.
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/
obscurefish Wrote:The entire "schizoposter" ideology is just Nick Land's fetishization of capitalism and transhumanism with the value-judgements reversed. Land's oeuvre is full of posturing at being sinister which schizoposting needs to take seriously as the bedrock of its worldview. You see the same thing with hate-figures like Klaus Schwab or "Satanism" in pop music. Schizoposters and Hazoids are the mirror image of Nick Land's transgender accelerationist fans, who all react to him without getting beyond him.
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/
Land borrowed the "schizophrenia" fixation from elsewhere, and if you trace that genealogy back I think it leads us back to an understanding of the affected schizo as a kind of anti-normie persona.
In any case I think the really essential thing to understanding the schizo is the faux playfulness that generally goes along with it. This seems to have been around the internet at least for some time. I think it's what the person who made this meme was trying to portray:
![[Image: AeBqdye.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/AeBqdye.jpg)
I say faux playfulness because this is a performative reaction to oversocialization - the "trickster" character is not a good way to understand it, either. The schizo wants to be weird but in a way that a cool nigger might approve of, like being obnoxious to white people. They must be able to revert to faux playfulness to avoid any scenario where someone might see them caring, such as when being questioned about their beliefs. I do wonder how much of a relationship there might be between this and the "jestermaxxing" phenomenon.
anthony Wrote:Quote:Chuuni (中二, short for "chuunibyou," 中二病) is a Japanese slang term that translates to "middle school second-year syndrome" or "eighth-grader syndrome." Chuuni refers to a phase that some adolescents go through, typically around the age of 13 or 14, where they exhibit behavior such as having delusions of grandeur, seeking attention, or acting as if they possess special abilities or knowledge that others don't have.
That sounds like me.
turnip Wrote:Land borrowed the "schizophrenia" fixation from elsewhere, and if you trace that genealogy back I think it leads us back to an understanding of the affected schizo as a kind of anti-normie persona.
As far as I can tell, its origins are from the small following of people around Terry A Davis, the paranoid schizophrenic programmer. I remember when he was still alive the people who watched him compared him to Chris-chan: the fat tranny autistic versus the high IQ keyed schizophrenic. In that way I suppose the use of "schizophrenia" just became a case of brinkmanship— YOU might be autistic, but I'M a schizophrenic, checkmate
Datacop Wrote:As far as I can tell, its origins are from the small following of people around Terry A Davis, the paranoid schizophrenic programmer. I remember when he was still alive the people who watched him compared him to Chris-chan: the fat tranny autistic versus the high IQ keyed schizophrenic. In that way I suppose the use of "schizophrenia" just became a case of brinkmanship— YOU might be autistic, but I'M a schizophrenic, checkmate Accelerationists got it originally from Deleuze and Guatarri, at least that is the origin of the whole "schizo" lexicon and the notion of "schizophrenia" as some kind of counter-cultural force opposed to sclerotic bourgeois respectability.
But you are right, I think the schizo as a personality type has a separate genealogy. At this point it seems more like an aesthetic, where you can post Hyperborea edits to signal to the normies on Discord that you are familiar with cool 4chan esoterica.
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