Curtis Yarvin and his Elves
#61
(09-23-2022, 12:16 AM)Leverkühn Wrote: Kant has an interesting point relating to this in his 'Physical Geography' which I will quote at length here:
Immanuel Kant Wrote: In the torrid zones, humans mature more quickly in all aspects than in the temperate zones, but they fail to reach the same [degree of] perfection. Humanity has its highest degree of perfection in the white race. The yellow Indians have a somewhat lesser talent. The Negroes are much lower, and lowest of all is part of the American races.

The Moors and other people of the tropics can in general run astonishingly quickly. Like other savages, they usually have greater strength than other, civilized people, which is due to the free movement they are allowed in childhood. The Hottentots can perceive a ship with the naked eye at the same distance that a European can with a telescope. Women in the hottest regions conceive children from the time that they are nine or ten, and cease by the time they are twenty-five. 

Don Ulloa notes that in Cartagena in America and the surrounding regions the people become very clever very early, but their reason does not continue to grow at the same rate thereafter.

(10-10-2022, 02:55 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote: Look up r selection vs. K selection. Classic HBD stuff. If you haven't learned all of HBD, you really should. Very very important stuff.
perhaps i should clarify. i am aware of the concept that earlier maturity leads to less differentiation. what i was referring to is that, in spite of this, there does not appear to be any point in their development (even early on) when blacks are cleverer than whites. kenyan children as old as 6 famously fail the mirror test. if white children pass the mirror test before the age of 2, just how early do you have to go for blacks to be more mentally developed than their white coevals?
#62
(10-10-2022, 02:55 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote: You think the 100 IQ are the real drivers of history? How do you think that works?

The same way that works in every government in history. You can’t build revolutions without having the people to run the machinery of government (see Trump). If you lack the people to run a government you will lose. It’s not just a brain trust at the top that you need to wield power, you also need foot soldiers and likely more foot soldiers than you would think. Generals without armies don’t win battles.
#63
(08-02-2022, 09:54 PM)Coyote Wrote: Is your SAT score going to keep me from busting your teeth out of your head?

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#64
(10-18-2022, 12:34 AM)MolaRam Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 02:55 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote: You think the 100 IQ are the real drivers of history? How do you think that works?

The same way that works in every government in history. You can’t build revolutions without having the people to run the machinery of government (see Trump). If you lack the people to run a government you will lose. It’s not just a brain trust at the top that you need to wield power, you also need foot soldiers and likely more foot soldiers than you would think. Generals without armies don’t win battles.

I'm confused why you place agency on the arm instead of the brain? A limbless body can't move but limbs don't move themselves.
#65
(10-18-2022, 01:53 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote:
(10-18-2022, 12:34 AM)MolaRam Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 02:55 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote: You think the 100 IQ are the real drivers of history? How do you think that works?

The same way that works in every government in history. You can’t build revolutions without having the people to run the machinery of government (see Trump). If you lack the people to run a government you will lose. It’s not just a brain trust at the top that you need to wield power, you also need foot soldiers and likely more foot soldiers than you would think. Generals without armies don’t win battles.

I'm confused why you place agency on the arm instead of the brain? A limbless body can't move but limbs don't move themselves.

Because the core of this whole discussion (or what started it at least) was Yarvin moaning that if we just let "Elves" run everything it would work out fine and the right wing would get exactly what it desires in the end (just grilling or something, etc.). However the left has both generals and armies. I suspect that as Project Veritas has illustrated through their videos they can get both foot soldiers and middle management to openly speak about both their ambitions and their belief in the plan as it may be. What does the right wing have for brain trusts? We have the establishment think tank set who write policy and fraternize with the left at cocktail parties and bathhouse functions to keep their social positioning high, Yarvin and many other bloggers/tweeters, and nothing else really to write home about. We don't have academia, even nominally right wing industries have many leftists in their management and the cultural impact of a right wing is irrelevancy.

It's fine to speak about the need for a brain sure, but you need metaphorical arms and legs. Look at all of the damage that career employees were able to inflict when Trump was President. For every Deputy Director of some agency that was #resistance there were dozens of mid-level and hundreds of low-level employees who could frustrate policy goals. Yarvin seems to believe that his Dark Elves have some sort of magic words that can allow them to simply avoid restless limb syndrome at a governmental level.

Quote:As a dissident, winning the culture war means establishing cultural dominance, which means becoming fashionable. Culture is still downstream from power, but your hobbit coup will go way better if you have a beefy fifth column within the elf ruling class—and a hidden cadre of dark elves who can emerge to rule the future.

At Yarvin's core what he hopes is that Elves (I'm still sure this is a poorly disguised dog whistle for Jew) will accept that as long as some other members of their middle earth race who have different opinions on how to run and control the population are simply the same race this will be acceptable for the ruling race. This means that as long as this fifth column is waiting and lurking in bathhouse corners there will always be a chance for them to take over and implement the dark elves goals or something. I don't see that ending with anything but a bunch of grifters on top (similarly appointed as the last set thrown out), with a similar disinterest in doing anything practical of the business of running government which I have to remind you becomes ever more complex and less able to be wrangled the longer any ruling class dithers and waits around with their hands in their pockets leering.
#66
(10-18-2022, 09:08 PM)MolaRam Wrote: [...]

>It's fine to speak about the need for a brain sure, but you need metaphorical arms and legs. Look at all of the damage that career employees were able to inflict when Trump was President. For every Deputy Director of some agency that was #resistance there were dozens of mid-level and hundreds of low-level employees who could frustrate policy goals. Yarvin seems to believe that his Dark Elves have some sort of magic words that can allow them to simply avoid restless limb syndrome at a governmental level.

We have Trump voters that can replace the retarded cog Clinton voters. Not that you need to, because the retards have no agency. You sound like a commie when you assume otherwise. DMV employees did not interfere with the Blumpf administration via heckin brave grassroots resistance, the cogs obeyed and Trump's problem was his cabinet, Party elites, Congress and the whole media and elite apparatus outside the government that trolled him 24/7 every day.
#67
(10-18-2022, 09:08 PM)MolaRam Wrote: [...]

Quote:>It's fine to speak about the need for a brain sure, but you need metaphorical arms and legs. Look at all of the damage that career employees were able to inflict when Trump was President. For every Deputy Director of some agency that was #resistance there were dozens of mid-level and hundreds of low-level employees who could frustrate policy goals. Yarvin seems to believe that his Dark Elves have some sort of magic words that can allow them to simply avoid restless limb syndrome at a governmental level.

We have Trump voters that can replace the retarded cog Clinton voters. Not that you need to, because the retards have no agency. You sound like a commie when you assume otherwise. DMV employees did not interfere with the Blumpf administration via heckin brave grassroots resistance, the cogs obeyed and Trump's problem was his cabinet, Party elites, Congress and the whole media and elite apparatus outside the government that trolled him 24/7 every day.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/schedule-f-u...resurgence

Trump was quite literally putting together the machinery to correct the exact issues I am talking about by moving currently career positions into a new employee category (schedule F). In the Federal Government alone they had something like 40K+ positions they wanted to shift from career employees to political appointees (the so called DMV employees). I think you would have to be blind or ignorant to think that those positions might have had an impact on the functioning of the executive branch.
#68
More exposure and astroturfing for Yarvin's retarded trash: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...ll-moldbug

News articles like this have been written for over half a decade. Being friends with Peter Thiel has its benefits.
#69
Considering Urbit is a complete failure I think Thiel is an arms-reach friend at best if you could call him that. Maybe an acquaintance? In a decade where even the most threadbare of projects were funded Moldbug was unable to make jack-diddly squat. Yarvin appeals to the same coastal journowhore elite who keep talking about GAMERGATE almost a decade later (they also keep giving the leather daddy renegade boogie man attention too…)
#70
(11-03-2022, 01:38 AM)MolaRam Wrote: Considering Urbit is a complete failure I think Thiel is an arms-reach friend at best if you could call him that. Maybe an acquaintance? In a decade where even the most threadbare of projects were funded Moldbug was unable to make jack-diddly squat. Yarvin appeals to the same coastal journowhore elite who keep talking about GAMERGATE almost a decade later (they also keep giving the leather daddy renegade boogie man attention too…)

Urbit's not a complete failure, prices keep rising afaik. Thiel paid Yarvin to start UR and has been astroturfing it since 2007. Yarvin was well connected before UR and that's why it was propped up to succeed, his innate appeal is very low -- he's too long winded and substanceless even for midwit appeal. Jim, BAP, even Spandrell are all obviously superior and enjoyed a fraction of the success. Moldbug minus Spandrell success is a minimum estimate of the extent to which Moldbug is astroturfed.
#71
Good news Podheads. New dose of entertaining insight to goon to. Let's get the dopamine flowing.


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Yes the Ben Burgis. I haven't watched yet but I expect this to be great fun. Just the thumbnail makes me laugh.


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