Dirlewanger and Figures of the Third Reich
#1
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Was he a true adherent to the ideals of National Socialism?

Discussion of other figures in the Third Reich is also acceptable in this thread.
#2
Strikes me as an useful idiot sort of figure. Had there been no war, he'd probably be executed for some degeneracy, but if the war was won and he lived, he'd either be sent on a suicide mission to work in the occupied Slavic lands, or (((kill himself)))
#3
I read or heard somewhere that Dirlewanger spent quite a bit of time conversing with Hitler personally. Not sure where. Might've been a Mark Felton video, to be honest.

He probably would've been killed due to internal politicking post-war, yeah. Hitler notably did everything in his power to not have Rohm killed, but ultimately caved to pressure from the SS. A similar situation might've unfolded with Dirlewanger, although I'm not so sure how fond Hitler was of him. He seemed to enjoy strange company.
#4
Oskar Dirlewanger, PhD: economist, rapist and war criminal.
#5
(04-10-2022, 03:25 PM)Svevlad Wrote: Strikes me as an useful idiot sort of figure. Had there been no war, he'd probably be executed for some degeneracy, but if the war was won and he lived, he'd either be sent on a suicide mission to work in the occupied Slavic lands, or (((kill himself)))
This seems mostly correct to me. Reading up on his experience during WWI and the Civil War in Germany, it seems like he did have promise as some kind of irregular military commander or internal police force. His career seems to have been largely capped because of his terrible alcoholism, and he definitely would have been executed for sexual degeneracy if not for the war--if I recall this almost happened but one of his old WWI buddies helped him go serve in the Spanish Civil War, after which his charges were dropped. As to Cats' original question asking if he was a 'true adherent of national socialism or not,' I can't imagine he was. He was anti-semitic and militaristic, so he aligned with them enough, but I have trouble imagining him being into any of the ethnogenesis stuff or having much of a mind for the economic policies of the Reich. That being said I guess he did get a doctorate in political science so I doubt he was entirely retarded. But the fact he consistently got caught for petty theft makes me think he at least had terrible impulse control. More than anything it seems he just wanted to fight battles and torture people, had natural aversions to the degenerate masses (so communism was off the table), and therefore the Nazi party was the best place for a guy like him to do what he wanted to do in life.


If anyone has access to his doctoral thesis (supposedly a critique of planned economies) I'd be interested in reading it, but it seems difficult to find. One blog user on an axis history forum had posted it (in german) but the links are all broken, sadly:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic....8&t=258816
#6
Based zero impulse control lolibertarian.


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