Financial advice

[BillyONare]

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[Trep]

If you’re good enough at poker, could you just make money from it online, or are you already doing this? Trucking and Amazon sound very time consuming and won’t give you access to rich people. Would be ok temporarily but I’m guessing your goal is to class jump. What kind of moneymaking schemes do you have? Business ideas?

[Nathan J Robinson]

You seem mega-fucked. If you are healthy, consider the military.

[Nathan J Robinson]

It's basically selling yourself into slavery, but of a bizarrely respectable sort that will grant you preferred status for life. If you've gotten yourself into a position where you have no friends or even family members, you've fucked up in some major ways. It's a better use of your time than amazon-jobbing or Uber-ing or "gambling your way to wealth". On the other hand, America is not currently at war, so this is a period of "low desperation" for slaves. I would look into it, even if it involves the humiliation of contacting your mother for your identification documents. You'll need them anyway.

[Trep]

That "preferred status" constitutes what exactly? Discounts at restaurants and boarding flights earlier?

And Billionaire I don't know you or your personality irl, but seeing as you have no friends, family, or connections, idk if a business based around connections and networking is the best plan.

[Nathan J Robinson]

Trep, I can't remember, are you a foreigner? On any job application, next to the "are you a negro" box there is a "are you a veteran" box. It has the exact same affinity groups, hiring structure, and the exact same legal recourses for "wrongful termination".

[BillyONare]

I'm just not convinced that a guarantee of income and housing fit is worth being a "ZOGbot slave" for four years, which is an enormous amount of time, not to mention the exponentially increasing tail risks associated with joining the army of a communist regime on the verge of bankruptcy and autogenocide. Also, they require...The Poky, now.

[Trep]

Trep, I can't remember, are you a foreigner? On any job application, next to the "are you a negro" box there is a "are you a veteran" box. It has the exact same affinity groups, hiring structure, and the exact same legal recourses for "wrongful termination".

I'm American. Yeah, I guess I've seen that before. Still not as though it qualifies you for any real high paying job. Doesn't seem worth it to me for the reasons Billionaire stated.

[Nathan J Robinson]

billonaire has already revealed himself to be.... not college material. So the next question is; does he want a pension at 39 for working his dildo warehouse job, or never?

If he wants to spare his dignity, there is tons of free accreditation/education in the military as well. The only issue is he will become a slave. I don't think free people will give him a better offer.

[BillyONare]

By what principal am I not college material? By what principal do I need to be college material? You seem to have a very boomer mindset, that one should organize their life around what an HR lady from 2005 says is foolish or wise for one's career. You are a somewhat friendly and clever fellow, but this counsel is troll-tier. There are a multitude of opportunities and possible developments on the horizon. I really think you are playing a game with me: If I am stupid enough to take your "advice" then clearly my IQ is too low to execute a superior strategy, a perfect circle of logic. You alluded to something similar on the previous forum: Saying it is quite easy to scam the government, but that I was too stupid to do it because if I was smart enough then I would have figured it out without you explaining. This however could be another troll. Your wit is admirable but tiresome!

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One who is forbidden from hiring competent men while being forced to hire negros and camogolems is the greater slave than the NEET who is refused work by him.

[Trep]

i'm too blasted right now to make an interesting post on the matter but given time and patience i will develop something.

"Billionaire saw right through Nathan's clever and tricky logic game, but it turned out Mr. Robinson was just inebriated"

[FruitVendor]

I'd 100% drive a truck for like 1 year and treat it like joining the military and doing your time.

[Trep]

I blew my early 20s trying to be a bodybuilder and didn't go to college, got a mobile job before lockdowns and made some money w crypto and travelled to Bali/Greece and it changed my life. Wait it out, change your name or go somewhere else imo. Unless it's something mega-fcked like peckerwood face tatts and a criminal record you're probably not as bad off as you think.

@FruitVendor What kind of good mobile jobs can you get without college/dumb degree?

[FruitVendor]

I blew my early 20s trying to be a bodybuilder and didn't go to college, got a mobile job before lockdowns and made some money w crypto and travelled to Bali/Greece and it changed my life. Wait it out, change your name or go somewhere else imo. Unless it's something mega-fcked like peckerwood face tatts and a criminal record you're probably not as bad off as you think.

@FruitVendor What kind of good mobile jobs can you get without college/dumb degree?

I saved money and went the online personal training route. I lived in my car, showered at a gym to save money and good built a decent amount of clientele that I was able to somewhat retain when I went mobile. Buying chainlink early and learning how to trade options (theta decay centered strategies). Taking advantage of currency conversion made me thrive and allowed me to save a lot. I'm not the usual mobile worker tbh. When I spen time in Greece the Us market would open in the afternoon so I'd get deep REM sleep everynight - honestly peaked there. 

The people I know who really make the big bucks while barely working did get a degree. If your degree isn't something like liberal arts you can edit/proof read essays on top of tutoring for decent cash. Top earners who pulled it off lied on their resume at first but had good people skills, pleasurable to be around and that made up for the distance. 

Top earners for mobile work I ran across seem to be programmers. If you have the time I'd just grind a bootcamp to the point it scares people. To pull off this life you need to have hustle (hate that word). I used to be a shutin gymcel who would browse 4chan all day but by being skeptical of the guarantee and going out of my comfort zone I'm a completely different person. 

Most important lesson I learned: Work will always suck, it's why they pay you to do it. Boomers and sitcoms lied about a "career" being this happy funtime w a laughtrack. Younger generations are starting to catch on that they won't be able to live like boomers, so why try to follow their life path? All the guys I know are making 80k a year but got shoved through the STEM meatgrinder work 80 hours a week in places like Midland, tx.

The ideal life is being able to turn your hobbies/creative work into a lucrative gig imo.

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Knew a guy once who passed on a good Fin advice of turning yourself into an LLC then writing things off like dinner at a restaurant as a "business expense" lmao.

In theory audit proof bc jannies can't look back and dispute when it was really just you at a redlobster. Gotta ask around a bit to flesh out this theory but thought I'd drop it here.

[Guest]

You can do manual labor jobs such as working in a factory temporarily and save up money. Try to get into software engineering in the long-term as a self-taught programmer. If you want to get into CyberSec you should try to get different IT certificates like Cisco, CompTIA etc. You can do this if you have the determination and intelligence for it

[Κόραξ]

Anyone here work in sales? I've been thinking about going into luxury boat/yacht sales. Seems like a job that rewards hard workers, with maybe less women (I would imagine, not sure).

@dune_iii on twitter works luxury car sales. He is nice guy so maybe ask him. He is rewarded for being hard worker, does not work with women IIRC, but has to sell to a lot of them (good thing, actually).

[BillyONare]

Recent Sam Hyde/Nick video explains like everything you need to know to be a car salesman as a young man. @skorr

[BillyONare]

[The_Author]

General philosophy of securities speculation: it should be assumed as a heuristic that the market compensates speculators for pricing in new information. Because of this, you will be compensated poorly if you price in information that is "high supply". Meaning, for example, information published by major financial outlets. This type of information generates small returns only, because, if you are reading it, it is already too late. Millions of people, and machines, already had the same idea. Indeed, 50% of stock market trades are conducted by automated trading programs, and you are not faster than them.

So you must assume that all extant, easy to find information has already been priced in. Then you must apply an above-normie and above-machine level of IQ to make a prediction about something in the future, which is not already a popular prediction. You can not only predict market trends, but also predict predictions, since it is the behavior of traders that are the efficient cause of price changes, while the market is only one thing that influences them (with a great deal of accuracy).

But there are also less difficult, lower reward, ways to apply this principle. For example, instead of investing on the basis of generally read financial publications, you may try investing on the basis of, say, commodities publications, defense industry publications, bond market publications, etc. Even though these are read by a large number of people, there is still a delay until the information they report reaches the normie publications. When it does, the normies buy, and to have bought before others buy is essentially the goal of financial speculation.