Poll: What do you believe is the cause of homosexuality?
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Homosexuality and Its Causes
#21
(03-12-2022, 02:12 AM)ToubouBogomilist Wrote:
(03-11-2022, 03:11 PM)Guest Wrote: Homosexuality is a behavior caused by a neurological disorder, product of a misdevelopment of the brain during childhood. The Y chromosome has to be exclusively cofactored in this problem, which is why women cannot be homosexual, ever. Mainly because there is not a recognized behavior or pattern emitted by the cortex structures that generate sexual behavior in both males and females that fit a rough approximate of a "go for the individual with the same gonads (unexplicit)" behavior. It is too complex of a command to pin down to a few genes atm.

The behavior in question turns the usual male sexual behavior into an obsession with adult and prepubescent males. Anal penetration might be cultural. Lesbianism is definitely cultural. Homoeroticism is a trick by the Jews, like psychoanalysis, to make you think Kaworu and Shinji aren't actually homosexual, which is false, and that the main characters of Owari No Seraph are homosexual, when they're not.
Elaborate why you would think Shinji and Kaworu are gay while Mika isn't, because you're going to need a hell of an Argument.

Shinji desires philia, not eros. Of course, when Kaworu does suggestive shit with him Shinji becomes timid because of his natural reaction (same way a guy gets attracted by a trap, except Shinji is more retarded so he gets attracted by a person who is obviously male), not because he actually wants to fuck Kaworu. Shinji's true love with Kaworu is philia, brotherhood, friendship, acceptance. Also the Rebuilds confirm that Shinji is a heterosexual.
#22
(02-27-2022, 09:59 PM)anthony Wrote:
Quote:“Since sex for the homosexual is essentially an attempt to appropriate the masculinity that he feels lacking in himself from someone who seems to embody it, sex with girls has no purpose, since girls do not have what he lacks. Once it gets construed in this way, sex becomes essentially a vampiric act, It is either sucking the desired object to obtain its male essence, or being sucked for the same purpose. Isherwood makes this vampiric character clear but in a slightly veiled manner when he talks about Bubi, the first object of his homosexual attentions in Berlin: ‘Christopher wanted to keep Bubi all to himself forever, to posses him utterly, and he knew that this was impossible and absurd. If he had been a savage, he might have solved the problem by eating Bubi — for magical, not gastronomic reasons.’
I believe that Jones is fundamentally right that homosexuality desires to fill some kind of perceived or felt lack in the self, but that strikes me as true of the average 'straight' person today too. Really if any kind of sexuality can be deemed 'straight' at all in my opinion it's only the grug-type I described above. I think sexuality becomes a lot more coherent if we expand our definition of 'not straight' to include most people we'd call 'heterosexual'.

Weininger's law of sexual affinity:
"It is always a complete Man (M) and a complete Woman (W) who strive to join in sexual union, although they are distributed in different proportions between the two different individuals in every single case"

He believes that 'sexual inverts' are individuals who are hermaphroditic both psychologically and physiologically, with the exception of the 'pederast' (one attracted to masculine men who is otherwise heterosexual, does this type really exist?) who he fails to explain. Thus they are attracted to feminine men and masculine women (ultimately settling on one, but starting bisexual). The physiological aspect proves it is not solely acquired, and there is an inherent component. However, since no existing human is fully Male or Female but has some proportion of both, in everyone there is the seed of bisexuality that can be realized in more or less extreme circumstances (prisons, boarding schools, etc. for some people).

He also believes there is a small element of sexuality in all friendships between men. "Kissing the homies goodnight"
#23
(02-27-2022, 09:59 PM)anthony Wrote: For most of history in most places men have been having sex with boys and each other without this interfering with family formation creating giant subversive religions devoted to non-reproductive sex exclusivity. We could have this too, but our neurosis over whether or not we might be 'homosexual' leads us to exile men to the fag-monolith the moment they find themselves pleased and intrigued by the sight of a healthy younger man in his prime.

This reminded me of a phenomenon I've noticed recently, the late acquisition of the gay-lisp. A number of gays I knew from college had no noticeable lisp (frequently no obvious gay mannerisms altogether), despite being openly gay at the time. But in the last couple of years as I've run into them they are significantly more likely to have adopted such obvious signs of gayness. I'm not sure the cause, could be to help identify themselves to other gays, could be a way to indicate to libs that they're in the LBTQ+ identity group, or something else entirely.
#24
(04-08-2022, 12:31 AM)doppelbanger Wrote:
(02-27-2022, 09:59 PM)anthony Wrote: For most of history in most places men have been having sex with boys and each other without this interfering with family formation creating giant subversive religions devoted to non-reproductive sex exclusivity. We could have this too, but our neurosis over whether or not we might be 'homosexual' leads us to exile men to the fag-monolith the moment they find themselves pleased and intrigued by the sight of a healthy younger man in his prime.

This reminded me of a phenomenon I've noticed recently, the late acquisition of the gay-lisp. A number of gays I knew from college had no noticeable lisp (frequently no obvious gay mannerisms altogether), despite being openly gay at the time. But in the last couple of years as I've run into them they are significantly more likely to have adopted such obvious signs of gayness. I'm not sure the cause, could be to help identify themselves to other gays, could be a way to indicate to libs that they're in the LBTQ+ identity group, or something else entirely.

I suspect that the gay lisp started as just a trend sensitive and neurotic men would be inclined towards, and as they started to stack up in certain circles due to their particular thing they had in common, it started a cycle and became a part of an identity. Like how one picks up rough speech. If you're a rougher character it's something you might gravitate towards, and it won't chafe against you, but nobody questions that company is a massive shaping factor.
#25
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This video is still really funny to me. #edutainment
#26
(04-08-2022, 12:31 AM)doppelbanger Wrote: This reminded me of a phenomenon I've noticed recently, the late acquisition of the gay-lisp. A number of gays I knew from college had no noticeable lisp (frequently no obvious gay mannerisms altogether), despite being openly gay at the time. But in the last couple of years as I've run into them they are significantly more likely to have adopted such obvious signs of gayness. I'm not sure the cause, could be to help identify themselves to other gays, could be a way to indicate to libs that they're in the LBTQ+ identity group, or something else entirely.
I'd actually made a post about this on my old twitter account. It was about some teacher whose students asked about their sexuality, and I made some comment to the effect of "Well, of course they knew he was gay, listen to his voice. The real question is why he does the gay lisp voice when he's only around kids." Unsurprisingly a bunch of fags got incredibly mad over it, but what was surprising was the number of gays who came in to say that what I called the 'gay lisp' (have also heard it to reffered to as a "lilt" but doesn't matter) was actually just their normal speaking voice. Of course, I know from firsthand experience that this is bullshit. Similarly to you, I knew people in highschool who talked in a normal, slightly deep male voice, only to come out as a homosexual and return how speaking with that faggy lisp. These people really tried to argue with me that the high lispy voice isn't something they consciously put on, but is in fact how they speak, entirely naturally. Now, we all know this isn't true; there's no 'high voice gene' that's correlated with being a faggot. I imagine that homosexuals in Elizabethan England, the few that existed, did not speak like the modern day faggot does, nor did they have the highly affected, feminine mannerisms.

But how would you guys explain this belief on their part? I'd hazard to say that whether they're wrong or not, they seemed to be incredibly sincere, at least as one can while they're on twitter calling someone else (me) a bigot. Some people even angrily commented that they had had the gay lisp voice well before they themselves even knew they were gay...which raised some thoughts on my part. Is it possible that these people had subconsciously picked up on gay mannerisms because they'd already been conditioned to be gay, and they just weren't aware of it? While I have met people who only adopt the voice after coming out, as we both mentioned, I'm sure we also knew people growing up whom "everyone knew was gay," well before they came out of the closet. I'm not a believer in "the gay gene," I don't think anyone is born gay. I think it's something that results from conditioning, though the precise way it works is beyond me. It seems entirely possible that people become conditioned towards homosexuality way before they even have a conscious understanding of sexual desire, hence why these people talked like faggots before they knew they were faggots, and thus erroneously come to the conclusion that their 'high voice' is how they really speak.
#27
@Leverkühn
@doppelbanger
i don't think the lisp being a faggot's natural speaking voice is mutually exclusive with him having had a "normal" voice prior to coming out. because there is no 'gay gene' as you rightly say, the state of being a sodomite is entirely psycho-social rather than physical. so in a sense the act of 'coming out' is tantamount to actually becoming a faggot, rather than simply admitting to what one already was. similarly, one's voice is not solely determined by the thickness of the vocal folds and the geometry of the vocal tract, but also by his psychology in how he--consciously or not--chooses to produce sounds. everybody changes their voice in different company; it is natural to speak differently among your friends than you do when delivering a speech, or in the presence of a cute girl. does this make it an insincere affect? thus adopting the fag lisp comes as a natural result of being a faggot, as it is part of what it means to be a faggot in the popular american understanding, akin to how one must first be exposed to some concept of what a tranny is before he can even think about becoming one himself. a corollary to this idea is that perhaps those faggots who used "the lisp" prior to 'coming out' were truly gay all along, and those who adopted it after the fact only became gay after doing so. does this align with anyone's experience?
#28
I think what's fascinating is that the MTF tranny look roughly 10 years older after transitioning, while the FTM tranny looks roughly 10 years younger after transitioning.
#29
The gay lisp is probably just picked up by effete, impressionable kids from television or more likely YouTube. I imagine the process is probably similar to how White kids start talking like hood negroes via listening to rap.
#30
What you described is HSTS. Gays are HSTS not AGP. You haven't read a damn thing from Blanchard, so stop using his term to describe anything.
#31
(05-27-2022, 12:45 AM)Guest Wrote: What you described is HSTS. Gays are HSTS not AGP. You haven't read a damn thing from Blanchard, so stop using his term to describe anything.

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#32
(05-09-2022, 11:55 PM)chungus Wrote: I think what's fascinating is that the MTF tranny look roughly 10 years older after transitioning, while the FTM tranny looks roughly 10 years younger after transitioning.

Estrogen is a stress hormone, starvation state causes gynecomastia to develop.

Rape Eat vindicated once again.
#33
So I can starve my gf to make her tits bigger and her waist smaller at the same time? I fucking love science and Rape Eat!
#34
(05-29-2022, 05:03 PM)BillyONare Wrote: So I can starve my gf to make her tits bigger and her waist smaller at the same time? I fucking love science and Rape Eat!
no but you can get her to look like an obese goblin with a blown-out midsection and cellulite thighs
#35
That is what high estrogen does?
#36
boobemaxxing is a delicate game... Not sure what estrogen is supposed to do, exactly, except to trigger some sort of inflammatory reaction. Perhaps this allows tissue transformations. Gonna have to ask around for that one
#37
Why is there such a high number of black homos and trannies?
#38
There is much less sexual dimorphism in non-white races. Non-Nilotic blacks are also inherently feminine and cowardly people.
#39
There are 3 reasons for sodomy:

Firstly, Brain Damage.
A damaged amygdala causes people to lose their understanding of boundaries and makes them insane perverts.
Pederasts are shown to have issues with their amygdala

Secondly, Being Sodomized
Particularly as a child. Half of all sodomites were sodomized as children.
Which they then later see as a positive experience and wish to replicate on other children.

Thirdly, Grooming
This is the growing method in which they turn youth towards sodomy today.
By propaganda and exposure to sodomy through pornography to children, they twist their understanding of healthy sexuality.
This is then later compounded heavily if they are then encouraged and commit sodomic acts.

Lastly, a factor worth considering, which is genetic, is Neuroticism.
Neuroticism is mainly genetic, but by itself doesn't cause one to become a sodomite, it just predisposes them to it through various means.

These are the only reasons for sodomy.
I could elaborate with "studies" and "sources", but I won't.
It is easy to find the material, and it is logically sound.
There is no genetic reason for sodomy.


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