IDEAL GOVERNMENT GENERAL

[ecofren]

Cyber Viking, it seems to me like you just desire pageantry and you're sentimental towards European aristocracy. Just read Moldbug and you'll sound less ridiculous. Almost everything you described in the post above is just how the government already operates with less executive power and a bloated bureaucracy. We're sending them back and there's no benefit to annexing South America. Why would you want to lord over a bunch of niggers and spics that you then have to provide for? We already do this in the United States and it's why this country is dying and it's why Donald J Trump is going to win. I suggest you save money and look into purchasing apartments to turn into section 8 housing. Seems like an ideal career path for you. You can find people on etsy to design your family crest.

[Cyber Viking]

Cyber Viking, it seems to me like you just desire pageantry and you're sentimental towards European aristocracy. .

Pageantry is virtuous, making the world a more beautiful place is good. I don't really care what it's called, a eugenic elite should rule, and there should be a caste system. I don't care what you call it. Call the King the President, Leader, Fuhrer, Prime Director, or the Arch Nigger Killer, the names don't really matter, how it works is what matters. Call the Dukes Governors or something, the state just needs to become a family business.

Almost everything you described in the post above is just how the government already operates with less executive power and a bloated bureaucracy. . .

Yes, in some senses the state I advocate for isn't exactly world changing, yet that's exactly why I advocate for it! The general way America is run works, it has just become corrupt with worthless scum in power. America needs a little shift to become vital again, but we don't need to break what works! Make what we have better! Don't try to copy the past mindlessly!

re sending them back and there's no benefit to annexing South America. Why would you want to lord over a bunch of niggers and spics that you then have to provide for? .

South America should be conquered because Empire building is beautiful and virtuous, and because it would give young and adventurous men from the lower classes the chance to become lords in their own right. Argue if it makes economic sense or not, allow private volunteer expeditions to form if it's not worth it for the taxpayers to fund a military invasion. Let private individuals treat the South like a business, and the natives as employees. There's resources and labor in South America that could be put to good use by our Empire.

We already do this in the United States and it's why this country is dying and it's why Donald J Trump is going to win.

Our rulers today are not exploiting non-whites, they're using them as tools to keep lower class whites down, politically, and economically. A state like I describe would have non-whites at the absolute bottom, and only in colonies to be exploited. Trump is going to win, and that'll be the first step to making things better. Whatever that looks like I'm for it. Even if it's not my ideal.

I suggest you save money and look into purchasing apartments to turn into section 8 housing. Seems like an ideal career path for you. You can find people on etsy to design your family crest.

Lmao.

[ecofren]

South America should be conquered because Empire building is beautiful and virtuous, and because it would give young and adventurous men from the lower classes the chance to become lords in their own right. Argue if it makes economic sense or not, allow private volunteer expeditions to form if it's not worth it for the taxpayers to fund a military invasion. Let private individuals treat the South like a business, and the natives as employees. There's resources and labor in South America that could be put to good use by our Empire.

I don't disagree that it provides a good outlet for competent white men to simply do something of note. However, what you're actually going to do with the conquered territory is important. You could simply install white men in the management of resource extraction and avoid taking responsibility for the browns. But if you want to make this worth it, you'd have to use them as chattel slaves which is easier said than done. There's no economic incentive to conquer this place because working the land is a meme and white men will not do it because they're told it's virtuous. That ship has sailed literally and figuratively. Unless we're simply advocating for killing them all and taking their place. Which isn't realistic either but this is a thread of ideals.

Our rulers today are not exploiting non-whites, they're using them as tools to keep lower class whites down, politically, and economically. A state like I describe would have non-whites at the absolute bottom, and only in colonies to be exploited. Trump is going to win, and that'll be the first step to making things better. Whatever that looks like I'm for it. Even if it's not my ideal.

I don't disagree with this but the point I was trying to make is that we've made ourselves responsible for the spics and niggers already and we shouldn't encumber ourselves further by conquering their landmass. Again, unless we intend to exterminate them, which we won't. I once again encourage you to read Moldbug if you haven't because this family business you're encouraging is still going to lean left as the WASPs tend to do.

[Cyber Viking]

I don't disagree that it provides a good outlet for competent white men to simply do something of note. However, what you're actually going to do with the conquered territory is important. You could simply install white men in the management of resource extraction and avoid taking responsibility for the browns. But if you want to make this worth it, you'd have to use them as chattel slaves which is easier said than done. Unless we're simply advocating for killing them all and taking their place. Which isn't realistic either but this is a thread of ideals.

Put white men into power in South American governments, and corporations, make them swear an oath of service the King of America, and then allow them to rules their estates as they see fit for their own profit. (While still adhering to the constitution). Chattel slavery is an outdated type of slavery, chattel slaves can't be educated, their owners are fully reliant on clothing, feeding, and housing them, they're prone to revolt, it's inefficient in the modern day, there's no need for that type of slavery. Wage slavery works perfectly fine, it's what works, there's no need to be cruel to our subjects unnecessarily. Wage slavery actually means a ruler is LESS invested in his slaves, not more.

Nothing will change in lives of the spics when we take over, and that's perfectly fine. I imagine that typically the new nobles of South America would run their governments and corporations much the same as they were ran before, when they were ran by the natives (Though obviously more efficiently) The nobles not caring to micro-manage the lives of the subhumans, and instead just raking in the taxes and profits from their properties. This would be of benefit to our Empire as it would give more of our citizens power and wealth, bring southern corporations and governments under our control, and make the continent stable for more efficient exploitation.

Unless we're simply advocating for killing them all and taking their place. Which isn't realistic either but this is a thread of ideals.

That wouldn't work out, like you said, white men of the character you speak are above working the land. There's no point to killing all the spics, there's plenty of land in the United States, we're not that crowded relative to other nations. No self-respecting white man wants to work on a plantation, mine, or factory. Killing the darkies would actually hurt our economy, like it or not, we're living in a globalized world. The U.S is already reliant on the labor of the south for allot of our wealth. We're already importing tons of raw resources from South America, Wiping out all the spics would directly hurt our economy. It's better to let the farm equipment live on their own continent, directly exploit them, and make all the exploiters our guys.

I don't disagree with this but the point I was trying to make is that we've made ourselves responsible for the spics and niggers already and we shouldn't encumber ourselves further by conquering their landmass. Again, unless we intend to exterminate them, which we won't. I once again encourage you to read Moldbug if you haven't because this family business you're encouraging is still going to lean left as the WASPs tend to do.

The problem is not that we're just too nice, the problem is that our rulers are evil and use subhumans in their class war against everyone else of our race. Reconstruction on a mass scale. There's wealth and power for the taking and you don't want us to take it because of some hypothetical risk of libtardism? Believe me, if men like you and I get our ideal world, that won't be a problem. Libtardism is a dying religion, if things change to the point that there's a King in America, there's no going back. The mistakes of the past won't be repeated. I have allot of books on my list right now, so I won't promise I'll read Moldbug.