Intellectual Virtue and Intellectual Value
#41
(11-14-2022, 08:01 PM)BillyONare Wrote: Some particular tips for your situation (being in college):

Professors say you should spend 2 hours studying and doing homework for every one hour in class. You must do this even as a high IQ person. I know 45 hours per week is a lot but the alternative is working 60 hours per week in a warehouse making 13 dollars per hour being butthurt that the jailbait girl cashiers make 15 dollars per hour. This is the future of most people who drop out and have romantic notions about being a rogue or coming up with more creative ways to make money.

There is no reason not to go to university and no reason not to major in computer science if you are smart enough.

Never skip class.

Go to every single office hour for every class no matter what.

Show up to everything 20 minutes early.

Always sit in the front row.

Do 30 hours of studying and homework minimum no matter what.

Strive to get straight As.

Wake up at the same time every day. If you want to relax and get more sleep on the weekend then wake up, do something productive for an hour, then take a nap.

Front load all of your work on Monday and earlier in the week so you can relax and play around on the weekend. Schedule as many classes as possible on Monday, then Tuesday, etc. Do not do anything fun or have free time on weeknights, just do homework and study. After your last class on Thursday or Friday you should have gotten all of your homework done and got your 45 hours of work in and can fully enjoy yourself without any guilt or inhibition or anxiety.

LARP that you are not in college and trying to learn computer science as NEET ie watch some YouTube videos and ask 4chan on how to get a job at FAANG without a degree. They will suggest some minimally effective curriculum, creating 3 decent projects, and sinking a lot of effort into getting great at data structures, algorithms, and competitive programming. This sounds like extra work but it actually isn’t because it will put you head and shoulders above your classmates and make your classes a breeze. Your classes will be about stuff that you learned 2 years ago. I also suggest studying for like 4 hours per day over summer and winter break. Internalize that this is not extra work, it’s to become a god and it will make both acing your classes getting a 300k/year job a breeze.

you need to work extremely hard and be extremely disciplined to get money, girls, and status. I only learned this after hitting rock bottom, please don’t make the same mistake as me. Stay in school, work hard to keep your body, studies, credentials, and social circle in good shape. Life gets exponentially harder as you get older. You are already an old man if you are 21+. Life has passed you by and you have wasted years and wasted many opportunities. Don’t fall for the meme that men peak in their 30s and 40s.

Money and girls are not important but they are extremely necessary. They are the bottom of Maslow’s hierarchy. Think about James Bond. He has enough money to do whatever he wants and many beautiful women to warm his bed and it is EASY for him. The hard part is his higher mission. Things that SHOULD be easy for you are hard, and because they are hard you have to work extremely hard. This is because you wasted your life and your father failed to teach you things and to establish you properly in life. Work hard so you don’t fail your kids in the same way.

This is essentially my plan.
I just don't like the idea of having to associate with a class body that's going to be made up of upwards of 80% chinks and poos.

High School and University for that manner is both 'teaching you' but more so training you to put up with bullshit. Those who fall through the cracks obviously don't have the discipline required to do great things.
Every billionaire who has 'dropped out' already had a job lined up for them either through their own endeavors or through connections. No one dropped out just because and made money.
#42
There's probably way less chinks and poos if you go somewhere in the midwest like University of Wisconsin or University of Michigan or Michigan State. I'd recommend somewhere with less than 10% blacks (favor a D1 hockey school over a D1 football school). There's big universities with lots of smart beautiful white girls and guys in cities with like 60% black people. My perception is that these places are like walled gardens, students and places are always have their guards up, won't associate with you unless you are a super conformist person, still in school, in a frat or band, etc. Low trust society. Can't just like stick around and live in say Tallahassee as a 28 year old old man trying to get into sororities with armed guards and badge systems. And even the most racist rich Greek life students worship football niggers and would suck their cocks which is extremely bizarre as someone who doesn't suffer from negrophilia. There's a number of pretty mild-mannered girls in STEM (more math and engineering than CS). Even though there's a 3:1 ratio of guys to girls, nerdy guys are very beta and meek so I think it should be relatively easy to steal the girls (page 77 https://blog.reaction.la/misc_upl/Settin...raight.pdf). I would rotate around Chess club, Super Smash Bros. club, anime club, Magic the Gathering club, and the like.
#43
I'm in Australia my burger in fries
#44
Quote:Professors say you should spend 2 hours studying and doing homework for every one hour in class. You must do this even as a high IQ person. I know 45 hours per week is a lot but the alternative is working 60 hours per week in a warehouse making 13 dollars per hour being butthurt that the jailbait girl cashiers make 15 dollars per hour. This is the future of most people who drop out and have romantic notions about being a rogue or coming up with more creative ways to make money.

There is no reason not to go to university and no reason not to major in computer science if you are smart enough.

Never skip class.

Go to every single office hour for every class no matter what.

Show up to everything 20 minutes early.

Always sit in the front row.

Do 30 hours of studying and homework minimum no matter what.

Strive to get straight As.

Wake up at the same time every day. If you want to relax and get more sleep on the weekend then wake up, do something productive for an hour, then take a nap.
(...) Do not do anything fun or have free time on weeknights, just do homework and study.

Sounds like an utterly inhuman way to live your life. If I had to do it I'd probably kill myself unironically; a menial job sounds much more bearable compared to it, and I say it as someone who has worked a factory job on 12h shifts. I'd rather drive a truck, even. What is the point of all of this? Getting credentials in an oversaturated market? A promise of money with no guarantees in return for investing multiple years of energy and stress? Even if you get the money (when? in your 40's?), what are you going to do with it? I've seen strivers like these get grey hair by the time they're in their 30's; I doubt that 'getting girls' would be your primary concern.
There are many reasons why suicide is the second most common cause of death between the ages of 15 and 40, and the 'grindset' is one of them.
#45
It's 45 hours per week of stimulating intellectual work that makes you more intelligent, you get a long weekend every week, long summer break, Christmas break, spring break. I agree it's a grind, but it's not that bad if you are smart, high energy, and don't procrastinate. Claiming factory jobs and truck driving are better is insane coping. You are being dishonest about the amount of financial reward from doing this and of the great material and spiritual utility of such financial rewards.

Quote:Drop out of college, young stud! That shit's soul-crushing and you'll be in huge debt and have no money until you are 40! You can make more as a truck driver than a software engineer! And investment bankers at JPM work such long hours that you actually get paid more per hour working at McDonald's!"

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#46
Quote:Claiming factory jobs and truck driving are better is insane coping.
Coping with what? Norwoods keep misusing this word instead of simply disagreeing or contesting, and it's starting to piss me off. I did not even said it is 'better' - it's not for everyone, it has risks and dangers and there definitely are better options. My point is that instead of 'stimulating intellectual work' you're facing endless hours poring over a difficult and complex subject unless you have a particular inclination for it, and even if you do, almost no college curriculum caters exclusively to your interests. And there's still the issue of maintenance while you're studying, so on top of that grind you might still be forced to work somewhere.
It's 'stimulating' when you're pursuing a subject of interest at your leisure, not when studying for school to get graded and to satisfy your teacher.

I've said that the financial rewards are there, but they are not certain due to how highly competitive and saturated this market is. Pursuing your above advice does not free you from the 4HL any more than the menial jobs. It definitely offers better perspectives and higher earnings but the demands are also higher. Again, what for? To fly out for a vacation every year? You can satisfy your intellectual desires having a menial job too, given a more frugal and austere life.
People who are intellectually brilliant will succeed at most things they take up and focus on, so it's beside the point.

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Again, missing the point since it was not an encouragement not to pursue higher education in general.
#47
At a certain point this reaches the parodic logic of instagram Octillionaire Grindset memes. Yes we could all hypothetically put infinite effort into becoming rich and secure. There are an infinite number of reasons why most people don't, and it's very easy to sound like the voice of wisdom in the room by just steamrolling over these and saying "Work harder and smarter". You can lumberjack face at us all you want but that doesn't change the fact that the process of passing through 21st century higher education is absolutely fucking awful to the point a lot of finer constitutions break against it.
#48
(11-14-2022, 08:01 PM)BillyONare Wrote: Some particular tips for your situation (being in college):

Professors say you should spend 2 hours studying and doing homework for every one hour in class. You must do this even as a high IQ person. I know 45 hours per week is a lot but the alternative is working 60 hours per week in a warehouse making 13 dollars per hour being butthurt that the jailbait girl cashiers make 15 dollars per hour. This is the future of most people who drop out and have romantic notions about being a rogue or coming up with more creative ways to make money.

There is no reason not to go to university and no reason not to major in computer science if you are smart enough.

This is very good advice fren, thank you. The whole post is good just didn't want to cluster up the thread. Part of my obsession has been "secrets of the universe", Nikola Tesla, etc, very fascinating things I could go into there like non-Hertzian, longitudinal EM waves, various Tesla patent like US Patent 645576 for wireless power transfer, etc. Seems off topic, but I say this to say I don't like computer science, it seems dull to me, I would rather work with the natural forces and discover how they work, so I study Electrical Engineering instead. Part of the reason I left college in the first place was to do what you say "romantic notions of coming up with creative ways to make money", is because I felt that College was too mechanistic in how these things are taught, at least in my school, and would not allow me to really explore these things as they do not fit into the Modern paradigm and dogmas surrounding physics, and especially the physics of electromagnetism. I understand now though all this was folly, but I can at least say that, though I haven't had enough success for me to actually live on, I've learned much about how to trade markets, for instance. The point of learning markets (specifically cryptocurrency), for me, was to learn something that could allow for "instant money in my pocket". What I didn't like about other money-making methods was that they have to follow a funnel, whereas markets it's as simple as: good trade = more money, bad trade = less money. Again, sorry for the tangent, but the point of all this was because I wanted to make money on my own, and have a stable source of income that eventually wouldn't require much work (as many traders can make solid income in only a few hours a day or even a week), so that I would have the money to fund my own projects and get out of the "spiritual slum" of modernity.

I plan on joining business and athletic clubs during college for networking and camaraderie, and once I'm out, using the money I make to pick up trading once again, get into some heavy real estate like apartments so I'll be able to generate the necessary money to fund the projects I have in mind. The big issue of Tesla is that he didn't have much business sense, and that's something I hope to rectify in myself. 

To facilitate discussion: We know that racial science, and those sciences in proximity, are the most important things for shattering the petty delusions of the Machine, of ZOG, the Cathedral, whatever you want to call it, but where do people think that the fundamental sciences fit into this?
#49
(11-15-2022, 07:41 AM)Guest Wrote: To facilitate discussion: We know that racial science, and those sciences in proximity, are the most important things for shattering the petty delusions of the Machine, of ZOG, the Cathedral, whatever you want to call it

Yet we already have the science, and these things remain. So clearly this isn't true.
#50
(11-15-2022, 08:12 AM)anthony Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 07:41 AM)Guest Wrote: To facilitate discussion: We know that racial science, and those sciences in proximity, are the most important things for shattering the petty delusions of the Machine, of ZOG, the Cathedral, whatever you want to call it

Yet we already have the science, and these things remain. So clearly this isn't true.

I'd say it is and isn't. Their delusions have been shattered, on many accounts, but the response was not that they'd relent, their response was to escalate and remove anyone from public discourse who would talk about racial science. The "people" holding the reins operate in a completely different reference frame, of a "moralistic pseudoscience" where if something doesn't conform to the moral beliefs of the time (i.e. all races are equal) then it can't be true, because it's not moral. I think that this is what needs to be shattered, and by force/political power no less.
#51
(11-15-2022, 09:12 AM)Guest Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 08:12 AM)anthony Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 07:41 AM)Guest Wrote: To facilitate discussion: We know that racial science, and those sciences in proximity, are the most important things for shattering the petty delusions of the Machine, of ZOG, the Cathedral, whatever you want to call it

Yet we already have the science, and these things remain. So clearly this isn't true.

I'd say it is and isn't. Their delusions have been shattered, on many accounts, but the response was not that they'd relent, their response was to escalate and remove anyone from public discourse who would talk about racial science. The "people" holding the reins operate in a completely different reference frame, of a "moralistic pseudoscience" where if something doesn't conform to the moral beliefs of the time (i.e. all races are equal) then it can't be true, because it's not moral. I think that this is what needs to be shattered, and by force/political power no less.

So what good is the science?
#52
(11-15-2022, 09:51 AM)anthony Wrote: So what good is the science?

The science mentioned above has value to you in that it is the truth.
Knowing the truth allows to to accurately reason about the world and act accordingly.
Even if the normies don't want to hear it, even if you can't say it in public, the truth is the truth and of immense value to helping you make decisions on how to act.

Personally, I don't think "the science" is how you break those in power like the guest is suggesting; They don't care about the truth, at least not publicly, because it runs counter to the current ruling ideology.
Behind the scenes, they probably behave in accordance with the truth; Think about how all the politician's who laud diversity live in largely ethnically homogenous gated communities.
#53
(11-14-2022, 08:01 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [His post about studying a lot]
I think the question here becomes, why are you choosing to do all of this? It seems like you are practically fattening yourself up, readying yourself to become the best possible gear to be worn down by the system. Remember, you will likely work for a start-up/major tech company, which means you will have to deal with diversity consultants and their hires, the grey, dead management, living in California (most likely), and several other pitfalls coming with working at any tech company. All for atomising work that provides barely any discernible improvement to society, and if you work for FAANG, probably hurts it. You might make money and have women, but you will inevitably, from that enviroment, become a far more fake and gay person. I don't entirely agree that manual work is superior, but it's definitely a job that will not kill the spirit and create a bugman. Finance is very Jewish, but if you want a job that won't make you a husk and pays out, you can choose that if necessary.

(11-15-2022, 10:22 AM)Guest Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 08:01 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [His post about studying a lot]
I think the question here becomes, why are you choosing to do all of this? It seems like you are practically fattening yourself up, readying yourself to become the best possible gear to be worn down by the system. Remember, you will likely work for a start-up/major tech company, which means you will have to deal with diversity consultants and their hires, the grey, dead management, living in California (most likely), and several other pitfalls coming with working at any tech company. All for atomising work that provides barely any discernible improvement to society, and if you work for FAANG, probably hurts it. You might make money and have women, but you will inevitably, from that enviroment, become a far more fake and gay person. I don't entirely agree that manual work is superior, but it's definitely a job that will not kill the spirit and create a bugman. Finance is very Jewish, but if you want a job that won't make you a husk and pays out, you can choose that if necessary.

Don't act as if every engineering company is going to be filled with fags, sure FAANG will be, but if you look at various Crypto companies, or even some Gov't contractors, they aren't. For me though, becoming engineer is just means to an end. Like I said, you want to gain enough money to put towards things (like real estate) to become self sufficient and make passive income, so that then you can work on whatever projects you want with your money and time. Ultimately the goal is creating an empire of shadow that can operate underneath the established structures, and is not beholden to its laws. Something that exists in a different world and in the same world at the same time--basically the way conspiratards believe the the "Deep State" operates.
#54
(11-15-2022, 10:21 AM)imperator Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 09:51 AM)anthony Wrote: So what good is the science?

The science mentioned above has value to you in that it is the truth.
Knowing the truth allows to to accurately reason about the world and act accordingly.
Even if the normies don't want to hear it, even if you can't say it in public, the truth is the truth and of immense value to helping you make decisions on how to act.

Personally, I don't think "the science" is how you break those in power like the guest is suggesting; They don't care about the truth, at least not publicly, because it runs counter to the current ruling ideology.
Behind the scenes, they probably behave in accordance with the truth; Think about how all the politician's who laud diversity live in largely ethnically homogenous gated communities.

I was not guided to my beliefs by this science and don't know anybody who was. And the people who have this science are terrified of allowing it to touch their picture of the world. Again, this all seems virtually pointless at the moment.
#55
(11-15-2022, 08:21 PM)anthony Wrote: I was not guided to my beliefs by this science and don't know anybody who was.

I doubt anyone believes anything that they didn't already want to believe, at least on some level.
It is nice to know that there are objective, verifiable metrics, that support beliefs you have though.
#56
(11-14-2022, 06:30 AM)Verl Wrote:
(10-11-2022, 04:40 PM)AryanGenius1488 Wrote:
(10-11-2022, 03:26 PM)Guest Wrote: [...]

Are you Jewish? I would estimate P(Jewish | Your comment)/P(Jewish) > 20 -- i.e., P(Jewish| Your comment) =~ 40%.

Not reading all of this, but I find it funny how this banned user shoehorns in technical exposition like this. Reminds me of when I was 11 using big words to impress grown-ups.

If you think this is technical or meant to impress people, I got some bad news for you ...
#57
“If you think this is tech-“ *pushes glasses up greasy nose* “-ACK”
#58
(11-15-2022, 08:21 PM)anthony Wrote: I was not guided to my beliefs by this science and don't know anybody who was. And the people who have this science are terrified of allowing it to touch their picture of the world. Again, this all seems virtually pointless at the moment.

Its pointless in terms of "convincing the elite" to become scientific racists, because that's not going to happen, but ultimately the goal is to topple the current regime--by whatever means--and replace it with something else. I myself was guided to my worldview by these sciences, that worldview being, simply, that the universe operates according to hierarchy, from the largest superclusters down to the most minute subatomic structures. This science is only necessary for generating such a worldview in the situation of modernity where we are completely taken out of Nature and into an unnatural, "equitable", environment. In a more Natural environment there would be no need for science to generate such a worldview, but even then sciences can be useful for deepening someone's knowledge of Nature-at-large.
#59
I was redpilled by The Alternative Hypothesis and Stefan Molyneux. The cold hard facts, logic, and mathematics were what convinced me of the dire situation that civilization and My People were in. Also the inequity of me deserving Prime Teen Pussy but not being able to get it.

Sure, I am genetically more moral and tasteful than 99.9% of people and that's what predisposed me to these arguments in favor of Cunny and Peckerwood Brotherhood but the intellectual rigor provided by estimable men was very important for me too.


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