Interesting Characters of History
#1
In a similar vein to the old amarna thread, post about characters of History that you find interesting.

While reading Kotkin's Stalin biography, I came across this quote about Pyotr Stolypin, the prime minister of the Empire of Russia right after the failed Russian Revolution of 1905:

"His [Stolypin's] influential top domestic adviser, a former rabbi converted to Orthodoxy, was an anti-Semite, but the prime minister also tried to ease residence, occupational, and educational restrictions on Jews, for both principled and instrumentalist reasons, to diminish the perceived cause of Jewish radicalism and improve Russia’s image abroad."

This former rabbi converted to Orthodoxy is actually Ilia Iaklovlevich Gurliand (1868-19??), verily an apostate Jew, although not a former rabbi, being only part of a rabbinical family as his father and uncle were both prominent religious leaders in the Pale of Settlement, with his uncle even authoring a seven-volume history of the Jews in Russia between the 17th and 18th centuries. So, a man with such strong Jewish heritage became a high-ranking advisor of the prime minister of Russia in the critical lapse of time before the First World War, being so close to Stolypin that they "finished each other's sentences" (as reported by Gurliand's wife), in a time when Jews were explicitly prohibited of occupying state positions and even converts were viewed with suspicion, just to serve as the State's Official anti-Semite, out-maneuvering the proto-Fascist wing of Imperial Russia in favor of the Liberal reformer prime minister (it is unclear if Gurliand was a sincere force for antisemitism or simply a stooge with anti-anti-Semitic goals). 

Obviously, he converted to Orthodoxy, but we can only imagine the strength of his parricidal drive as he renounced his religious duty and continued to further christianize himself. He was the first of the family to get a secular education when he became a summa cum laude graduate of Law with a dissertation on the Roman jurist Gaius in 1891. In the meantime he continued to excel in his Law career, writing several law tracts and even some fiction, and working as a minor civil servant. He most probably converted right before being made Professor of Law in Kiev University, as it only accepted Christians. From then on a rapid ascension to a post in the Council of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1907 with the full sponsoring of B. V. Stürmer, a prominent conservative statesman who took a liking for him when he did government work in Yaroslav, when Stürmer was the state's governor. 

By this time, Gurliand had a strong influence on Stolypin. According to Abraham Ascher in his book P. A. Stolypin: The Search for Stability in Late Imperial Russia, he served as his main advisor for all the important subjects of electoral reform, provincial reform, administrative procedures, the agrarian question, the labor movement, and the nationalities question. He regularly drafted Stolypin's speeches and legislative proposals or bills for submission to the Duma, and, in a most colorful way, acted as a pseudonymous writer for the press to serve as a surreptitious voice of the Government. Gurliand was specially positioned to this task as he had a great talent for polemics and kept great attention to the political scene, receiving direct reports of political agents from the police and other government institutions, and promoted connections inside the different political groups of the Empire.

The most notable of his contributions to the polemical press of the day was in promoting virulent antisemitism in a way that was untraceable to Stolypin. As the Russian statesman was simply too much of a philo-Semite, he applied Gurliand (through the pseudonym of N.P. Vasilev) to voice fiery anti-Semitic views as a way of placating the Russian Right (whose most sophisticated parts would know that the real writer was Gurliand, Stolypin's right hand man) and to still have a ambiguous distance from it, in such a way that Stolypin would be protected from right wing criticisms of Jewish favoring by the government and left wing criticisms of Jew bashing. In a popular brochure, Gurliand accused the main opposition parties of being anti-Russia and controlled by Jews. Gurliand attacked the left wing parties with great effect. He said of the Kadet party's left wing, one of the biggest opposition parties at the time, that "The overwhelming majority of this group is, of course, Jewish. To be exact, as we have said above - the militant sector of the Jewish intelligentsia." and that this Jewish intelligentsia "... was irreconcilably hostile to the Russian people, whom it considered to be dull, stupid, talentless... [the Jewish intelligentsia] hates Russia, the Russian double-headed eagle, the glory and power of Russia, [and] its importance among European States." (the reader may imagine Gurliand winking to you as he says this).

This maverick intrigue had its limits, of course, it was directed to influence prominent citizens and politicians and may have be a method too convoluted for the new democratic masses: The biggest rightist party, the Union of The Russian People, refused any kind of liaison with him as he was still a Jew, no matter how Christian, no matter how anti-Semitic. Again, isn't there something Jewish about being the State's official anti-Semite? And then still being snubbed by the Goy?

I didn't find much of him apart from this. The guy doesn't even have a Wikipedia page and is relegated as a passing anecdote of Stolypin's ministry even in face of his supposed great influence on him. It illustrates how Interesting Characters of History® can have a relevant impact on the making of the world and still be forgotten to the sands of time.

As of Stolypin, he was murdered in 1911 by Jewish revolutionary Dmitry Bogrov.
#2
i knew a guy with webbed toes in highschool.. thats about it though
#3
(01-04-2023, 06:59 AM)Wikipedia Wrote: "In 1886 they emigrated from Russia for unexplained reasons, possibly connected to the acts of paedophilia for which he was later prosecuted."
"In 1914 he was prosecuted for raping more than two dozen girls."
"The Earthly Paradise describes specially-bred castes of human including one of neotenised sexual adults with child-like features, who were put to death at the age of 35, as they could not be happy in old age."
"Further, he held extreme ideological beliefs on eugenics and antisemitism. He actively assisted the right-wing nationalist organisation, the Kazan Department of the Union of Russian People, and provided secret assistance to the Ministry of Internal Affairs in hunting down Jews and supposed traitors."

The Late Russian Empire was a fascinating place truly. Many real life groypers emerging to be latter day heroes on our corner of the internet but still frustratingly obscure.
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#4
The Lion in my head that tells me what to do is roaring quite loudly at the moment. This is a very pleasing wikipedia page.
#5
astoundingly keyed figure

Quote:Mereschkowski rejected Darwinian evolution, believing that natural selection could not explain biological novelty.
this is an important detail that shouldn't go ignored
#6
On a more light-hearted note Archilochus is a pretty interesting figure. He flourished in the 7th century bc and was the first lyric poet of the western tradition, however, only fragments of his poetry survive. The specific details of his life are a bit murky, but we know he hailed from Paros, one of the Cyclades, and was a professional soldier and mercenary, who seems to have died in combat in his late 30s or early 40s. This is notable, for at the time being a soldier as well as poet was unheard of and against the mores of the age. He wrote verses on a variety of subjects but among the ancients was especially remembered for his invectives.

His poems were widely popular and often sung and danced to in festivals and sometimes religious rites. Moralfags were perpetually seething about Archilochus and eventually his poetry was banned in Sparta on the grounds that it was corrupting the city's youth. Pindar disliked his often coarse verses but could not deny the man's poetic genius.

The most illustrious event of his life was his chimp out against Lycambes and his daughter Neobule. Lycambes promised our poet his daughter's hand in marriage, but then went back on his word. He was furious with such double-dealing and wrote several invectives which made both father and daughter kill themselves. Before they were driven to suicide, however, they seem to have regretted their decision and Lycambes offered to betroth his daughter to Archilochus once more, but he rejected her and fucked her younger sister in their garden instead, and then preceded to write a poem about it, which was sung by choirs of virgin girls during festivities for centuries to come.

Here's a translation, it doesn't really properly capture the charm of the original but oh well, I couldn't find anything better:

"Neobulé I have forgotten, believe me, do.
Any man who wants her may have her.
Aiai! She’s past her day, ripening rotten.

The petals of her flower are all brown.
The grace that first she had is shot.
Don’t you agree that she looks like a boy?

A woman like that would drive a man crazy.
She should get herself a job as a scarecrow.
I’d as soon hump her as [kiss a goat’s butt].

A source of joy I’d be to the neighbors
With such a woman as her for a wife!
How could I ever prefer her to you?

You, O innocent, true heart and bold.
Each of her faces is as sharp as the other,
Which way she’s turning you never can guess.

She’d whelp like the proverb’s luckless bitch
Were I to foster get upon her, throwing
Them blind, and all on the wrongest day.

I said no more, but took her hand,
Laid her down in a thousand flowers,
And put my soft wool cloak around her.

I slid my arm under her neck
To still the fear in her eyes,
For she was trembling like a fawn,

Touched her hot breasts with light fingers,
Spraddled her neatly and pressed
Against her fine, hard, bared crotch.

I caressed the beauty of all her body
And came in a sudden white spurt
While I was stroking her hair."
#7
(01-04-2023, 07:20 AM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote:
(01-04-2023, 06:59 AM)Wikipedia Wrote: "In 1886 they emigrated from Russia for unexplained reasons, possibly connected to the acts of paedophilia for which he was later prosecuted."
"In 1914 he was prosecuted for raping more than two dozen girls."
"The Earthly Paradise describes specially-bred castes of human including one of neotenised sexual adults with child-like features, who were put to death at the age of 35, as they could not be happy in old age."
"Further, he held extreme ideological beliefs on eugenics and antisemitism. He actively assisted the right-wing nationalist organisation, the Kazan Department of the Union of Russian People, and provided secret assistance to the Ministry of Internal Affairs in hunting down Jews and supposed traitors."

The Late Russian Empire was a fascinating place truly. Many real life groypers emerging to be latter day heroes on our corner of the internet but still frustratingly obscure.

The collapse of the Russian Empire was as instrumental to Modernity as was the fall of Byzantium, truly the amount of Groyperous figures in that state was beyond belief
#8
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lee-goldson-barneyfag-x86x2-revved.10780/page-192#post-1889507


Quote:Let's just distill this guy's mindset into one quote.

Quote:I never really had any huge violent outbursts, except maybe for threatening one annoying piece of shit with locked-in syndrome who'd always be wheeled in to my music class for some reason. That was about it, though. How I managed to keep my violent rage plugged in during my high school years I'll never know. If I went back to that time, I'd beat the Barneyfags there to death for messing me up and turning me into who I am.

Locked-in syndrome means the guy was literally incapable of moving or doing anything at all. He actually threatened a guy who couldn't even move with violence.

Tell me you wouldn't want to know someone like this was living next to you.

Thanks for doxing this fucker, whatever Anon committed that act of heroism.
#9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Klingenberg

(Linking to a wikipedia page on the Amarna forum is a cretin move)
#10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken

Not deeply interesting, but a good reminder of the sort of basic moral nuance that was easily conceivable outside contemporary circumstances.

"Oh man, this guy thought that the jews suck and black people will never be decent americans like whites are and... oh, it must have all been a joke or something, because he thought lynching was uncivilized."
#11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad

Have any of you guys actually read the wiki page for the Founder of the Nation of Islam?

It is quite the fascinating rabbit hole to go down because effectively we do not know the man's past or future outside of his founding of the organization. He was mythologized rather than documented and I think that makes him more interesting than the idea of Yakub, which he popularized.
#12
Mysterious_Floridian_X Wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad

Have any of you guys actually read the wiki page for the Founder of the Nation of Islam?

It is quite the fascinating rabbit hole to go down because effectively we do not know the man's past or future outside of his founding of the organization. He was mythologized rather than documented and I think that makes him more interesting than the idea of Yakub, which he popularized.

"There is an idea of a Yakub, some kind of abstraction...."



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