Internet Tranny Sociology Thread
(10-21-2022, 08:50 PM)GraphWalkWithMe Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 07:48 PM)Zed Wrote: RE: the "Transgendered" phenomenon

Their impermanence will simply owe to the fact that the "most Transgendered" castrate themselves as a matter of course. Non-confabulated peoples perpetuate themselves from one generation to the next. On the other hand, "Transgenderism" necessarily has to perpetuate itself via pornography, memes in the female case, etc. It is fake and gay, and utterly contemptible. The "Transgendered" are almost entirely propagandized rubes celebrating their own slavery and castration.

I could live how I am expected to live - or I can live according to my will. There is no denial of nature here though: everything is permitted and selection (as a law) only governs far-ranging trajectories. On a long enough time scale, I will be reduced to a surgically altered male skeleton. But on a longer one, we will both be dust. I have no particular desire to pass on my seed. And slavery, from my vantage point, would be enacting a suppression of the self in favor of achieving social conformity/harmony - for someone such as myself, living in accordance with amor fati is strictly incompatible with such a life.

Quote:Seriously, consider the case of a person who's willingly deformed themself for the sake of "fulfilling" a paraphilia. "Transgenderism" isn't dissimilar from the pursuit of Fat Fetishism.

People change themselves for many reasons, but dismissing it as paraphilia misses the point. Sex orients and governs life; and as Roissy infamously observed, the only absolute metric for determining if someone is an 'alpha' is the quality and quantity of women who will fuck them. As such, many men spend their youth chasing status purely to increase the quality of women they can fuck. I don't think this is unambiguously a positive thing, as it can distract from higher pursuits (even as the drive towards status sometimes results in those pursuits inadvertently). Children, as a means to legacy, is certainly a higher pursuit than sex, but it is far from the only one - the generation of culture is another. In so far as the paraphilia plays a role, it has to do with the fact it inhibits and alters the formation 'non-confabulated' drives from an early age --- by the time sometime transitions, it is not fulfill the paraphilia - but to make peace with the long-lasting psychological consequences of it, even as they may lack the self-awareness to perceive those consequences. And the denial of it does not entail the restoration of normal drives/desires, which are by that point often non-existent.
First time posting) but I just got to say this Zed guy above me sounds like a coping tranny and should join his other 4\10 brethren in the art of the human chandelier
You guys can keep trying but I'm starting to think Zed won't actually commit suicide in response to forum posts.

Also, this might sound like a stupid question, but what's the original source on 41%? Are we all unthinkingly repeating the rainbow flag equivalent to '6 million'?
“Are we all unthinkingl-ACK!”
(10-22-2022, 01:52 AM)anthony Wrote: You guys can keep trying but I'm starting to think Zed won't actually commit suicide in response to forum posts.

Also, this might sound like a stupid question, but what's the original source on 41%? Are we all unthinkingly repeating the rainbow flag equivalent to '6 million'?

The power of 41%: A glimpse into the life of a statistic (unfortunately not on sci-hub)

Quote:"Forty-one percent?" the man said with anguish on his face as he addressed the author, clutching my handout. "We're talking about my granddaughter here." He was referring to the finding from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS) that 41% of 6,450 respondents said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives. The author had passed out the executive summary of the survey's findings during a panel discussion at a family conference to illustrate the critical importance of acceptance of transgender people. During the question and answer period, this gentleman rose to talk about his beloved 8-year-old granddaughter who was in the process of transitioning socially from male to female in her elementary school. The statistics that the author was citing were not just numbers to him; and he wanted strategies-effective ones-to keep his granddaughter alive and thriving. The author has observed that the statistic about suicide attempts has, in essence, developed a life of its own.
(10-22-2022, 11:45 AM)Chud Wrote:
Quote: the finding from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS) that 41% of 6,450 respondents said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.

"Had attempted"? It's over...
(10-22-2022, 06:25 PM)anthony Wrote:
(10-22-2022, 11:45 AM)Chud Wrote:
Quote: the finding from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS) that 41% of 6,450 respondents said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.

"Had attempted"? It's over...

They admit as much - a gem from the methodology of the NTDS study:

Quote:First, the…questionnaire included only a single item about suicidal behavior that asked, “Have you ever attempted suicide?” with dichotomized responses of Yes/No. Researchers have found that using this question alone in surveys can inflate the percentage of affirmative responses, since some respondents may use it to communicate self-harm behavior that is not a “suicide attempt,” such as seriously considering suicide, planning for suicide, or engaging in self-harm behavior without the intent to die …The National Comorbity Survey, a nationally representative survey, found that probing for intent to die through in-person interviews reduced the prevalence of lifetime suicide attempts from 4.6 percent to 2.7 percent of the adult sample … Without such probes, we were unable to determine the extent to which the 41 percent of NTDS participants who reported ever attempting suicide may overestimate the actual prevalence of attempts … In addition, the analysis was limited due to a lack of follow-up questions asked of respondents who reported having attempted suicide about such things as age and transgender/gender non-conforming status at the time of the attempt.

Anecdotally, most suicidal trannies are as like to actually do it as most suicidal women - and far more likely to talk about it endlessly on discord. A strongly histrionic personality trait.
(10-22-2022, 06:44 PM)Zed Wrote: Anecdotally, most suicidal trannies are as like to actually do it as most suicidal women - and far more likely to talk about it endlessly on discord. A strongly histrionic personality trait.

Yes, that's what I had in mind. It's just more crankery and attention whoring.
How accurate is the book The Transgender Industrial Complex?
(10-12-2022, 12:08 AM)Zed Wrote: Let us roll the concepts of the last section into a shitty acronym. Call it the Virtual Dysphoria Machine - the VDM. An extremely tranny name for an extremely tranny concept. If we allow ourselves to grant that the VDM works in the way prescribed above, then we have gained (some) insight into the process - but not yet the nature of the cause. As a positive feedback loop, we believe the VDM eventually generates intense overwhelming dysphoria. A hatred of the body. But it does not exist in isolation. Instead, it constantly interfaces with the social and is subject to other external and internal forces

What stands out to me here is that all these factors are purely external - "is this what I really want?" or "would transitioning actually make me happy?" aren't factored into the calculus. The desire to troon and appeal of trooning are taken as a given, whereas if I were suddenly possessed by such a desire, I'd question it to the utmost degree.


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