(05-17-2022, 10:48 AM)Opossum Wrote: (05-17-2022, 09:58 AM)Guest Wrote: There is a large contrast between American and European Muslims.
This would make sense just from numerical population. European Muslims arrive with a pretty solid diaspora community, whereas American Muslims are much fewer in number and therefore more atomized.
The "religious but also not" aspects are probably mostly to do with cultural difference in sense of religiosity and what that looks like. As far as I can tell Muslims don't bother much in their own countries with teaching young men about general sexual self-control as a virtue, but control sexually directly through patriarchal structure, hence all the rapey stuff when they get thrown into a country where most of the women walk around half-naked and without any sort of formal guardian. And of course hookah is quintessentially Muslim, despite their general prohibition on intoxicants. This is to say, they are being more or less "good Muslims", for what it's worth.
True, they need a high concentration of their own people in specific areas to be radical. We have loads of such places here in the UK, like Bradford, Alum Rock, Ilford etc. As for their rapey nature, many of them also think that its ok to do it as long as you do it to kaffir girls, we have seen this throughout all the grooming gangs.
Another thing for the "religious but also not" aspect which I didn't mention is that many of them think its ok to live the degenerate lifestyle when they're, and when they get a bit older (say around 30+) all they need to do is go to Hajj and ask forgiveness for their sins. This is such a disingenuous mindset and they think that's how it actually works.
(05-18-2022, 07:21 AM)Guest Wrote: As for their rapey nature, many of them also think that its ok to do it as long as you do it to kaffir girls, we have seen this throughout all the grooming gangs. While this is true in part, that it wouldn't be hard to read most Islamic commandments as being in reference to how one should treat other Muslims (with the implication that outsiders are basically animals, as rabbinical judaism is interpreted), in the case of British grooming gangs specifically this seems to be a Paki ethnic thing, and while I've never interacted with these, my inclination would be to attribute their worst traits less to their religion and more to their Hindu race.
(05-18-2022, 07:21 AM)Guest Wrote: Another thing for the "religious but also not" aspect which I didn't mention is that many of them think its ok to live the degenerate lifestyle when they're, and when they get a bit older (say around 30+) all they need to do is go to Hajj and ask forgiveness for their sins. This is such a disingenuous mindset and they think that's how it actually works. Let's cool it with the anti-Catholic remarks.
(05-17-2022, 04:25 PM)Svevlad Wrote: There was a greentext where a Syrian guy says that all those refugees going to Europe and such are the types of people the locals call "garbage" I imagine the quality of Islamic refugees going to Europe is similar to that of the hispanics who come to the United States via the southern border. In other words, the dregs of society, mostly all uneducated, skill-less men, plus a few women and their anchor babies.
(05-17-2022, 10:48 AM)Opossum Wrote: This would make sense just from numerical population. European Muslims arrive with a pretty solid diaspora community, whereas American Muslims are much fewer in number and therefore more atomized. (05-18-2022, 07:21 AM)Guest Wrote: True, they need a high concentration of their own people in specific areas to be radical. We have loads of such places here in the UK, like Bradford, Alum Rock, Ilford etc. Will add that this seems to be true of basically any minority group, whether religious or ethnic. When there's a low percentage of some minority-group in a specific area, its members will assimilate into the dominant culture much better, or at the very least not 'act out' as much. While a few pakis or niggers in a small town is still not preferred, it's unlikely they're going to form rape gangs or chimp out and have ' Magic Moments.' As soon as you get to points like the Guest described, where you have high concentration 'ethnic neighborhoods,' it's all downhill. The minority group can live a majority lifestyle within that small community, and they never have to assimilate to get by.
(05-19-2022, 10:08 AM)Opossum Wrote: (05-18-2022, 07:21 AM)Guest Wrote: As for their rapey nature, many of them also think that its ok to do it as long as you do it to kaffir girls, we have seen this throughout all the grooming gangs. While this is true in part, that it wouldn't be hard to read most Islamic commandments as being in reference to how one should treat other Muslims (with the implication that outsiders are basically animals, as rabbinical judaism is interpreted), in the case of British grooming gangs specifically this seems to be a Paki ethnic thing, and while I've never interacted with these, my inclination would be to attribute their worst traits less to their religion and more to their Hindu race I don't think its a Hindu race problem, if in Britain the Pakis are doing it, in other European countries such as Sweden and Germany it is the Muslims of other ethnicities. In those countries there's a lot of North African, Middle Eastern and Black Muslims who are at the forefront of all the crime.
I'm pretty sure in India itself the 14%+ Muslim population is highly over represented in rape and other crimes. They also have this "Love Jihad" thing going on there which is somewhat similar to the grooming gangs of Britain.
If you ever want to watch an Indian go 1488 nuclear rahowa fire up the ovens tell him Pakis and Indians are the exact same race (they are). Hindus have the exact same weird sexual perversions, Islam is just a different outlet.
Hinduism is a mistake - but that is a thread for another time.
(05-20-2022, 12:09 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: Hinduism is a mistake - but that is a thread for another time.
I certainly have no idea why otherwise respectable neo-pagans like Survive the Jive choose to associate with Hindus. For the interest of comparative religious study? I thought the whole point was to separate oneself from a foreign religion.
(05-20-2022, 06:06 PM)cats Wrote: I certainly have no idea why otherwise respectable neo-pagans like Survive the Jive choose to associate with Hindus. For the interest of comparative religious study? I thought the whole point was to separate oneself from a foreign religion.
I peek in Tom's telegram every now and then and I believe he's more interested in the linguistic connection. He acknowledges the IE invasion in a video with an instrumentalized "bitch lasagna" as bgm and the comment section is loaded with seethe. He could be more saucy with what he really wants to say but being fully deplatformed would severely cut his income.
STJ believes Vishnu and Shiva are more Indo-European rather than Dravid but I don't see it. Going by the Rigveda Vishnu was a minor deva along with Shaivism being fleshed out much later during the Puranic period as the Rigvedic devas were supplanted and humiliated or rendered powerless by puranic IVC deities.
With advancements in genetics, archeology and history the fraud of Indology is being exposed. Everything notable came from the outside. The IE invasion being proven correct and Buddha-dharma was a response to Mazdaism (monotheism, cosmic dualism, eternity) rather than the red-herring of "Hinduism". Shakyamuni being of Saka-Scythian IE/Steppe origin pointed out the vedas were gradually corrupted (Rigvedic Sanskrit is completely different from the rest) while acknowledging the IE-Rigvedic deities (Indra) as a beings of good karma that were once human who essentially rule over an Olympian cognate (Trayastrimsa). The concept that Buddha-Dharma is more in line with the original Vedas - which I fully believe.
(05-20-2022, 09:15 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: I peek in Tom's telegram every now and then and I believe he's more interested in the linguistic connection. He acknowledges the IE invasion in a video with an instrumentalized "bitch lasagna" as bgm and the comment section is loaded with seethe. He could be more saucy with what he really wants to say but being fully deplatformed would severely cut his income.
STJ believes Vishnu and Shiva are more Indo-European rather than Dravid but I don't see it. Going by the Rigveda Vishnu was a minor deva along with Shaivism being fleshed out much later during the Puranic period as the Rigvedic devas were supplanted and humiliated or rendered powerless by puranic IVC deities.
With advancements in genetics, archeology and history the fraud of Indology is being exposed. Everything notable came from the outside. The IE invasion being proven correct and Buddha-dharma was a response to Mazdaism (monotheism, cosmic dualism, eternity) rather than the red-herring of "Hinduism". Shakyamuni being of Saka-Scythian IE/Steppe origin pointed out the vedas were gradually corrupted (Rigvedic Sanskrit is completely different from the rest) while acknowledging the IE-Rigvedic deities (Indra) as a beings of good karma that were once human who essentially rule over an Olympian cognate (Trayastrimsa). The concept that Buddha-Dharma is more in line with the original Vedas - which I fully believe. Not being mentioned as much as other deities doesn't make Vishnu a minor deva. He was a companion of Indra and they killed Vritra together. Your allegations of Rigvedic deities being humiliated and rendered powerless is a gross generalisation and doesn't hold up in light of evidence either. It is the Avatars of these deities, such as Rudra, Varuna and Vishnu, that are worshipped by millions of modern day Hindus, as it was in the Puranic period. There was no absolute new deities which were created and suddenly became more powerful than the Rigvedic deities and humiliated them. Rigveda is mostly about good karma, and how to reach paradise, of which Indra is the King hence he is so often mentioned. If you look at the other Vedas you will learn the significance of Vishnu but you probably just disregard them as "dravidian texts".
You may be right only to an extent because of Indra's battle with Krishna (Vishnu's avatar). Indra became corrupted later on but he did redeem himself afterwards. Such metamorphosis is completely normal.
Shakyas being Saka/Scythian origin is wholly based on the similarity of those 2 words, which is quite laughable. This is because if we base and ancestry entirely on similarities of words then we could create so many new false lineages. The evidence for your claims is weak. Bhuddist texts also mention that the Shakyas were descendants of King Ikshvaku from Mahabharata.
(05-20-2022, 09:15 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: I peek in Tom's telegram every now and then and I believe he's more interested in the linguistic connection. He acknowledges the IE invasion in a video with an instrumentalized "bitch lasagna" as bgm and the comment section is loaded with seethe. He could be more saucy with what he really wants to say but being fully deplatformed would severely cut his income.
STJ believes Vishnu and Shiva are more Indo-European rather than Dravid but I don't see it. Going by the Rigveda Vishnu was a minor deva along with Shaivism being fleshed out much later during the Puranic period as the Rigvedic devas were supplanted and humiliated or rendered powerless by puranic IVC deities.
With advancements in genetics, archeology and history the fraud of Indology is being exposed. Everything notable came from the outside. The IE invasion being proven correct and Buddha-dharma was a response to Mazdaism (monotheism, cosmic dualism, eternity) rather than the red-herring of "Hinduism". Shakyamuni being of Saka-Scythian IE/Steppe origin pointed out the vedas were gradually corrupted (Rigvedic Sanskrit is completely different from the rest) while acknowledging the IE-Rigvedic deities (Indra) as a beings of good karma that were once human who essentially rule over an Olympian cognate (Trayastrimsa). The concept that Buddha-Dharma is more in line with the original Vedas - which I fully believe.
(05-20-2022, 09:15 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: I peek in Tom's telegram every now and then and I believe he's more interested in the linguistic connection. He acknowledges the IE invasion in a video with an instrumentalized "bitch lasagna" as bgm and the comment section is loaded with seethe. He could be more saucy with what he really wants to say but being fully deplatformed would severely cut his income.
STJ believes Vishnu and Shiva are more Indo-European rather than Dravid but I don't see it. Going by the Rigveda Vishnu was a minor deva along with Shaivism being fleshed out much later during the Puranic period as the Rigvedic devas were supplanted and humiliated or rendered powerless by puranic IVC deities.
With advancements in genetics, archeology and history the fraud of Indology is being exposed. Everything notable came from the outside. The IE invasion being proven correct and Buddha-dharma was a response to Mazdaism (monotheism, cosmic dualism, eternity) rather than the red-herring of "Hinduism". Shakyamuni being of Saka-Scythian IE/Steppe origin pointed out the vedas were gradually corrupted (Rigvedic Sanskrit is completely different from the rest) while acknowledging the IE-Rigvedic deities (Indra) as a beings of good karma that were once human who essentially rule over an Olympian cognate (Trayastrimsa). The concept that Buddha-Dharma is more in line with the original Vedas - which I fully believe.
(05-20-2022, 09:15 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: I peek in Tom's telegram every now and then and I believe he's more interested in the linguistic connection. He acknowledges the IE invasion in a video with an instrumentalized "bitch lasagna" as bgm and the comment section is loaded with seethe. He could be more saucy with what he really wants to say but being fully deplatformed would severely cut his income.
STJ believes Vishnu and Shiva are more Indo-European rather than Dravid but I don't see it. Going by the Rigveda Vishnu was a minor deva along with Shaivism being fleshed out much later during the Puranic period as the Rigvedic devas were supplanted and humiliated or rendered powerless by puranic IVC deities.
With advancements in genetics, archeology and history the fraud of Indology is being exposed. Everything notable came from the outside. The IE invasion being proven correct and Buddha-dharma was a response to Mazdaism (monotheism, cosmic dualism, eternity) rather than the red-herring of "Hinduism". Shakyamuni being of Saka-Scythian IE/Steppe origin pointed out the vedas were gradually corrupted (Rigvedic Sanskrit is completely different from the rest) while acknowledging the IE-Rigvedic deities (Indra) as a beings of good karma that were once human who essentially rule over an Olympian cognate (Trayastrimsa). The concept that Buddha-Dharma is more in line with the original Vedas - which I fully believe.
(05-21-2022, 05:50 AM)Guest Wrote: Not being mentioned as much as other deities doesn't make Vishnu a minor deva. He was a companion of Indra and they killed Vritra together. Your allegations of Rigvedic deities being humiliated and rendered powerless is a gross generalisation and doesn't hold up in light of evidence either. It is the Avatars of these deities, such as Rudra, Varuna and Vishnu, that are worshipped by millions of modern day Hindus, as it was in the Puranic period. There was no absolute new deities which were created and suddenly became more powerful than the Rigvedic deities and humiliated them. Rigveda is mostly about good karma, and how to reach paradise, of which Indra is the King hence he is so often mentioned. If you look at the other Vedas you will learn the significance of Vishnu but you probably just disregard them as "dravidian texts".
You may be right only to an extent because of Indra's battle with Krishna (Vishnu's avatar). Indra became corrupted later on but he did redeem himself afterwards. Such metamorphosis is completely normal.
Shakyas being Saka/Scythian origin is wholly based on the similarity of those 2 words, which is quite laughable. This is because if we base and ancestry entirely on similarities of words then we could create so many new false lineages. The evidence for your claims is weak. Bhuddist texts also mention that the Shakyas were descendants of King Ikshvaku from Mahabharata.
A wild Indian appeared.
Vishnu was a minor Rigvedic deva and only in later puranas written in ~700 AD onward the concept of Narayana being the supreme Godhead would become established. In these later Puranic texts (Brahma-vaivarta Purana) Krishna gleefully said :
" Listen to the story of the humiliation of the king of the Devas, celebrated throughout the three worlds. It is as pleasing as a drop of nectar to the ears."
You haven't read your source material, post vedic texts humiliate Indra by making him into a lustful drunk cursed with growing vagital orifices all over his body and kneels before Vishnu after la mountain was lifted with his pinky. They were not "Buddy-Buddy" and it clearly signaled an indigenous IVC deva gaining more significance. Vishnu 'helping' Indra slay Vitra is a complete puranic retrofit.
The Mahabharata is myth and Buddha does not mention it whatsoever or pay any attention to it. A great piece of literature but falls short in comparison to genetic, historic, geographic & linguistic truths. Indians will tell you it was written in 4000 bc and the Ramayana written in 12000 bc - it's all a bunch of bullshit.
Shakyas were a foreign steppe derived clan of warriors who formed their own republic and practiced Sun/Surya worship. Buddhism predates Jainism btw. Western sources > the jumbled mess of a religion with no continuity.
(05-21-2022, 12:28 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: A wild Indian appeared.
Vishnu was a minor Rigvedic deva and only in later puranas written in ~700 AD onward the concept of Narayana being the supreme Godhead would become established. In these later Puranic texts (Brahma-vaivarta Purana) Krishna gleefully said :
"Listen to the story of the humiliation of the king of the Devas, celebrated throughout the three worlds. It is as pleasing as a drop of nectar to the ears."
You haven't read your source material, post vedic texts humiliate Indra by making him into a lustful drunk cursed with growing vagital orifices all over his body and kneels before Vishnu after la mountain was lifted with his pinky. They were not "Buddy-Buddy" and it clearly signaled an indigenous IVC deva gaining more significance. Vishnu 'helping' Indra slay Vitra is a complete puranic retrofit.
The Mahabharata is myth and Buddha does not mention it whatsoever or pay any attention to it. A great piece of literature but falls short in comparison to genetic, historic, geographic & linguistic truths. Indians will tell you it was written in 4000 bc and the Ramayana written in 12000 bc - it's all a bunch of bullshit.
Shakyas were a foreign steppe derived clan of warriors who formed their own republic and practiced Sun/Surya worship. Buddhism predates Jainism btw. Western sources > the jumbled mess of a religion with no continuity. Oh yes indeed a wild Indian appeared
All you have done is regurgitate the same old talking points without refuting anything I've said with any actual evidence. The greatness of Vishnu was not established in the later Puranic texts, but it happened in the Rigveda itself.
"Who verily alone upholds the threefold, the earth, the heaven, and all living creatures"
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01154.htm
"Both thy two regions of the earth, O Viṣṇu, we know: thou God, knowest the highest also"
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv07099.htm
"This, Viṣṇu's station most sublime, the singers, ever vigilant,
Lovers of holy song, light up"
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01022.htm
All of these Hymns clearly show Vishnu as being the most supreme deity of the Rigveda, even though he doesn't have as many Hymns as Indra does.
As for Indra and Vishnu slaying Vritra together, it is not a Puranic retrofit. This very companionship of both is mentioned in the Rigveda once again. Not only do they slay Vritra together, they also enjoy the Soma juice together. So yes, they are indeed "buddy buddy" during Rigvedic times. Later on one became corrupted and the other still reigned supreme.
"When thou, Impetuous! leagued with Viṣṇu, slewest Vṛtra the Dragon who enclosed the waters"
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv06020.htm
Lastly, about your point on Shakyas. You have provided no evidence for Shakyas being descendants of Scythians are are mindlessly reiterating the same old talking point. I have told you that Bhuddist (not Hindu) sources themselves claim the Shakhyas to be descendants of King Ikshvaku.
There lived once upon a time a king of the Sākya, a
scion of the solar race, whose name was Śuddhodana.
He was pure in conduct, and beloved of the Śäkya like
the autumn moon. He had a wife, splendid, beautiful,
and steadfast, who was called the Great Māyā, from
her resemblance to Māyā the Goddess.
—Buddhacarita of Aśvaghoṣa
The Vedas are a mess with no continuity. If there are 5 hymns dedicated to a minor deva and 255 hymns dedicated to another who both boast the same superiority anyone with a triple digit iq from a country with running water and working sanitation can grasp the latter had much more importance especially during that time period.
According to the clusterfuck of Hinduism Vishnu in his elephant and human form wrote down all the Vedas yet forgot to mention Karma in the earliest one along with no mention of Vishnu "upholding" Karma like in later Puranic texts composed in 700-1500 AD where concepts like Bhakti& Ashtanga begin to take form and Vishnu gained importance over rigvedic devas.
Hinduism = Indians copying concepts like Karma/Dharma and making a spaghetti code religion out of it on top of coomerism.
I do not care what some Indian poet wrote about Buddha ~700 years after his death. Stick to your ritualism of drinking and bathing in the ganges filled with dead bodies and human shit.
(05-21-2022, 08:27 PM)FruitVendor Wrote: The Vedas are a mess with no continuity. If there are 5 hymns dedicated to a minor deva and 255 hymns dedicated to another who both boast the same superiority anyone with a triple digit iq from a country with running water and working sanitation can grasp the latter had much more importance especially during that time period.
According to the clusterfuck of Hinduism Vishnu in his elephant and human form wrote down all the Vedas yet forgot to mention Karma in the earliest one along with no mention of Vishnu "upholding" Karma like in later Puranic texts composed in 700-1500 AD where concepts like Bhakti& Ashtanga begin to take form and Vishnu gained importance over rigvedic devas.
Hinduism = Indians copying concepts like Karma/Dharma and making a spaghetti code religion out of it on top of coomerism.
I do not care what some Indian poet wrote about Buddha ~700 years after his death. Stick to your ritualism of drinking and bathing in the ganges filled with dead bodies and human shit. As I've said before the Rigveda specifically has a different purpose to other texts, you do know what the other Vedic texts say about Vishnu right? You do not care about what Buddhist poets wrote about Buddha 700 years after, but everything that the whities wrote thousands of years after must be right, hmm curious. If anything we have the greatest religious continuity then most places in the world, and specifically much more then Europe. Once again you have decided as hominem instead of constructively addressing my points and that's fine because it must be hard to uphold these low iq beliefs made up by random whities within the last 200 years.
Turkish friend telling me Syrians and other "Refugees" are a huge pain in the ass and causing some displacement with arabic signs and language and demanding better accommodations from native Turks.
These "people" are just human cockroaches lmao.
what dysgenics does to a mf... But it can be reversed
Rezzing thread because this is funny.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucf7yj9MJkg]
Islam is the grindset religion for the spiritual dogs and browns of humanity.
"Some days I made no money. Which was soul destroying."
"SOLE DESTROYING" pops up on screen
Being able to spell things is not the definition of intelligence, but it is highly G-loaded. Jobs should be mandated to have IQ tests in which spelling English words is a large part of the grade.
How did no one catch this and tell the editor to fix it? Low quality garbage third world society.
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