Israel
#21
Easily.

Israel being white has nothing to do with it - it's actually utterly irrelevant due to the situation.

If they are white, the fact that most of the anti-whites are their own people, means they are an "internal enemy" - if they are not white, then they are simply another external enemy.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact they are incorrigibly seeking your own destruction.
#22
(04-04-2022, 10:56 PM)cats Wrote: Israel is a White society. You may not think it is, but everyone besides obscure and esoteric right wingers does, and so does every single one of the brown-skinned illiterate retards lined up outside their borders, trying to destroy it. How can I advocate for its destruction in good conscience?

I can advocate for the destruction of any brown nation in good conscience.
#23
(05-27-2022, 06:21 PM)PigBoner Wrote: I can advocate for the destruction of any brown nation in good conscience.

True. Fuck kikes.
#24
(03-06-2022, 09:09 PM)cats Wrote: The state of Israel is probably one of the most maligned in existence. Imagine normie American's sadism towards Russians now that they've invaded Ukraine, stretched out over decades.

The hatred does not cease when one comes into the Right. The TRS/NJP cohort use precisely the same language and tactics as the left in regards to Israel (apartheid state, posting pictures of sad brown girls in rubble, etc.), and this has filtered down into the sub-100 IQ Twitter Right that we all regularly interact with.

I'd like to use this thread as a place to discuss Israel, its place in the world (historically, geopolitically), its goals, its national ideology, and whether one should "support" the state of Israel in general.

(03-07-2022, 09:35 PM)Trep Wrote: I posted some excerpts from this book The Territorial Imperative when Israel came up in the wignat thread on old Amarna. I’ll post some again since I think it’s an interesting perspective on Jews and Israel.


Quote:According to the computer, the story goes like this: For a very long time human nature has been playing a grotesque joke on Jew and Gentile alike. He and we have joined in regarding him as a race. And yet he has less racial distinctiveness than the southern Italian or the Swede. He is a descendant of a mixed bag of Middle Eastern tribes, as I am a descendant of a mixed bag of Scottish clans, and he has no more genetic distinction than you or I or the next man. But nevertheless there has existed a profound difference between us. We have had territories, he has had none. Among modern, civilized peoples he has been unique. And what we have described as a Jew has been nothing other than a de-territorialized man
Quote:The Jew was different, let there be no doubt. And he maintained that difference with unflagging resolution. We regarded him as a race apart; it was to Jewish interest to agree. We derided the "Jewish personality"; he exaggerated the personality. None of us guessed, of course, he or we, that the "Jewish personality" was nothing but a bundle of mannerisms preserving the identity of a de-territorialized man. And then came Zionism
Quote:Third, such an astonishing reversal of what we had always regarded as the "Jewish personality" should have shaken the West. It did. From that date in 1948 anti-Semitism may have retained a nostalgia or two, but it ceased to be a workable institution. We flatter ourselves that the Hitler outrages awakened the conscience of mankind. They did nothing of the sort. I recall that in America immediately after World War II anti-Semitism reached peaks never before attained, despite all Nazi contributions to our universal conscience; and the literature of the period will bear me out. It was the photographs of dead Arabs, not of cremated Jews, that awakened our famed conscience. It was in 1948 that a stunned world realized that Jews could behave just like anyone else
Quote:Fifth, a most important point. If the Jew never existed but was simply a de-territorialized man, then in theory he should cease to be a Jew when he becomes re-territorialized. When you visit Israel you will discover that it is the new nation's favorite joke. There is the story of the visiting French-Jewish doctor met on the dock at Haifa by a friend. The doctor looked in puzzlement at the barrel-chested porters throwing luggage around. "Who are they?" he asked. "Jews," said his host.

It is not just physique. It is posture, a manner of walking, a manner of speaking, a manner of thought. The "Jewish personality" has vanished, replaced by that of the Israeli, a being as confident, as resolute, and as willing to do battle as a roebuck on his wooded acres. You go to a party in Tel-Aviv and someone asks the inevitable question, "How do you like Israel?" and you answer, "Fine. But where are the Jews?" And the party goes off into the greatest laughter, for it is the nation's joke
Quote:Sixth, if territory has transmuted the Jew, physically and psychically, into another being called the Israeli, then in theory there should be a widening breach between the Israeli and the Jew of the Diaspora. The breach is far from theoretical; it is regarded by many in Israel as the second most severe problem that the new nation suffers. Many a thoughtful British or American or Continental Jew reproaches the Israeli as a chauvinist, as a man who has lost his world view and no longer acts according to his conscience, as one who has somehow betrayed the most profound ideals of a people. To the Israeli, his fellow of the Diaspora is a moralizer whose sermons if put into practice would mean death to Israel. Since it has been the financial generosity of world Jewry which has made Zion possible, there is anguish on both sides. What neither understands is that natural law has intervened; that they are no longer the same people sharing the same conscience and the same amity-enmity complex. Life would be easier for both if they understood
Quote:The same division between Jew and Israeli witnessed a heart-rending demonstration during the Eichmann trial. I had not anticipated it with my theoretical list, but the Israeli elders with their intuitions had, for they dreaded what would happen when the inevitable documentation of Nazi atrocities unfolded. The dread was well founded. As the trial progressed, the bewildered young people -- the sabras, the Israeli-born -- confronted their parents in household after household. "Why didn't you do something?" "You don't understand," said the parents, "there was nothing to do." "But if you were going to die -- if somebody knew he was going to die anyway -- why didn't he die fighting?" "You don't understand," said the parents. And it is true that the sabra will never understand, for unlike the Jew of the gas chamber, he is a territorial animal


This reminds me of the categorical distinction between Jew and Gentile in Mitchel Heisman, but I think it holds up better than Heisman's idea of technological vs biological evolution. The Israeli reverts to being essentially a gentile, pursuing a normal 'evolutionary strategy' rather than the Jewish one.

The foundation of the state of Israel basically turned rootless cosmopolitans into Boers overnight during 1947-48

wanting the state of Israel to submit to the demands of the Camp of the Saints third world and their medicine men who meet at United Nations Plaza would basically be saying that the problem with not only sabra but even American libtard Zionists are that they don’t act more like Joe Slovo (who first branded Israel an apartheid state)

This is the kind of person who characterizes the vast majority of anti-Zionist thought

https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitis...707221/amp

Anti-Zionism is not counterculture. Thomas777’s most “ANSWER ME!” Jim Goad, Gen X, “society, ma’an” belief is that American society is still uniformly pro-Israel and that “supporting Palestinians” isn’t so banal a plank in the sentiment of our enemies that normie girls post about it on social media to seem compassionate and prosocial (as I think Earth Rabbit has mentioned before)
#25
Jews are an admirable race. To be kicked out of 300 countries is an honor. Aryan geniuses like us will have to behave like Jews in the future, but with encrypted energy rather than gold and jewels. Great men are always persecuted by the ugly mob. Taking into account the morals of the mob is fagotry.
#26
I guess it depends on what is admired. Tough fucks - reduced to a "chump change" people yet never allowing themselves to fall into despondence and "mental defeat."
#27
(06-21-2022, 04:30 PM)BillyONare Wrote: Jews are an admirable race. To be kicked out of 300 countries is an honor. Aryan geniuses like us will have to behave like Jews in the future, but with encrypted energy rather than gold and jewels. Great men are always persecuted by the ugly mob. Taking into account the morals of the mob is fagotry.

Let's not get carried away. They aren't the only race on the planet sharp enough to add numbers in their heads. And they aren't the only one to act self-interestedly. Not everyone who's hated is Howard Roarke.
#28
Regarding the state of Israel, I take issue with them due to their long history of gayops (see: Lavon Affair, U.S.S. Liberty incident, arming Nelson Mandela, etc.) and role in enabling the worst vices of Jews abroad (see: pedophiles taking refuge, AIPAC fuckery, Israeli dual-citizens advocating diversity for thee but not for me, etc.) Frankly I doubt it serves as a decent Jewish ethnostate anymore given the fertility differences, Tel Aviv being Hebrew Fagopolis and the vaccination mandates being absolutely absurd (the requirement last I checked was 4 doses). Given how much the holocaust has been used as a political bludgeon by Israeli the irony of the green pass system they implemented is palpable.

That being said, if the Palestinians were to completely reclaim the territory currently under Israeli governance we would see a South-Africanization faster and harder than ever seen before. This is a country with highly advanced infrastructure, high tech industries and extremely sophisticated military systems including the Iron Dome, nuclear weapons and the Samson protocol for said nuclear weapons. If they don't glass themselves along with the entire middle east a Palestinian state would rot completely within a decade. They do not have the human capital to maintain such systems, and the desert that was made green will be made desert once more.

I will say, Israel's military record is quite fascinating and there is much to learn from it along with how the state itself was founded and stabilized, especially regarding how they acquired a nuclear arsenal. I also adore the firearms they've made over the years, like the Jericho 941, Galil and Uzi. If anyone wishes to start a nation state in the modern day one should absolutely study Israeli history. If you ask me though the ideal outcome is reclaiming all of Israel in the name of Christ and founding a Christian theocracy there. Perhaps for a little bit of trolling it could be named Syria Palestina as a callback to Hadrian.

Addenum: By fertility differences I am referring to those between the Jews and the much more fertile Palestinians/Arabs. The only Jewish group in the country with a good fertility rate are the Hasidics if I'm not mistaken, and most of them aren't exactly ideal Jewish stock.
#29
Being anti-Zionist or even seriously believing we live in a Zionist Occupied Government is just a holdover from Neonazism 1.0, it's so gauche. The vast majority of support for Zionism in America today comes from WHITES. Compare to the unwashed brown masses, including a majority of Jews, that make up the Pro-Palestine bloc. Zionism was founded as a fundamentally non-Talmudic ideology and was advocated for by secular, often Germanized, Jews. American-Israel relations does not paint the picture of an all-powerful lobby pulling strings from the shadows but a completely normal back-and-forth to maintain competing resource and ideological needs. America took the USSR's side with Egyptian Communist Gamal Nasser against Israel, the UK, and France in the 1956. JFK practically made their prime minister resign over their disagreements over nuclear weapons. Israel gave up the Sinai on American imposition. None of these are the maneuver of a ZOG but a real, verifiable COG, and perhaps maybe a FOG. The billions we give Israel in military aid originates from a Moral Majority putsch in the late 80s, not an infiltration of the State Dept by sons of Abraham. Zionism in America is a Baptist project. The era of Greatest Allyism is coming to an end, which you can already see by the backlash to Biden's lukewarm pro-Israel stance from newer, browner Democrats. Anyone paying attention to Israeli politics (believers of the ZOG do not) can already see this.

Furthermore, Palestinians smell bad. The newest Knesset is apparently the most Right-Wing government they've ever had; I say good.
#30
(03-06-2023, 10:06 AM)Guest Wrote: Regarding the state of Israel, I take issue with them due to their long history of gayops (see: Lavon Affair, U.S.S. Liberty incident, arming Nelson Mandela, etc.) and role in enabling the worst vices of Jews abroad (see: pedophiles taking refuge, AIPAC fuckery, Israeli dual-citizens advocating diversity for thee but not for me, etc.) Frankly I doubt it serves as a decent Jewish ethnostate anymore given the fertility differences, Tel Aviv being Hebrew Fagopolis and the vaccination mandates being absolutely absurd (the requirement last I checked was 4 doses). Given how much the holocaust has been used as a political bludgeon by Israeli the irony of the green pass system they implemented is palpable.

That being said, if the Palestinians were to completely reclaim the territory currently under Israeli governance we would see a South-Africanization faster and harder than ever seen before. This is a country with highly advanced infrastructure, high tech industries and extremely sophisticated military systems including the Iron Dome, nuclear weapons and the Samson protocol for said nuclear weapons. If they don't glass themselves along with the entire middle east a Palestinian state would rot completely within a decade. They do not have the human capital to maintain such systems, and the desert that was made green will be made desert once more.

I will say, Israel's military record is quite fascinating and there is much to learn from it along with how the state itself was founded and stabilized, especially regarding how they acquired a nuclear arsenal. I also adore the firearms they've made over the years, like the Jericho 941, Galil and Uzi. If anyone wishes to start a nation state in the modern day one should absolutely study Israeli history. If you ask me though the ideal outcome is reclaiming all of Israel in the name of Christ and founding a Christian theocracy there. Perhaps for a little bit of trolling it could be named Syria Palestina as a callback to Hadrian.

Addenum: By fertility differences I am referring to those between the Jews and the much more fertile Palestinians/Arabs. The only Jewish group in the country with a good fertility rate are the Hasidics if I'm not mistaken, and most of them aren't exactly ideal Jewish stock.

I can agree with pretty much all of this. As much as I'll defend Israel on principle as having a more worthwhile existence than any potential "Palestine" they do just act like utter bastards a lot of the time in a way that makes it hard not to be aggravated. Jewish NGOs trying to enable as much refugee-flow into Europe. Messing with foreign elections. Just why? They're feeding into the worst possible image their potential friends could have of them.

And the military record is interesting. I was just reading about the Lebanon War yesterday in relation to some other stuff. Really interesting history since they're pretty much a small first world tier nation that was allowed to fight real wars against other real countries after WW2. I want to look into some proper finer details of a few of these conflicts to get a better feel for how they handled themselves so well.

(03-06-2023, 12:55 PM)Datacop Wrote: Being anti-Zionist or even seriously believing we live in a Zionist Occupied Government is just a holdover from Neonazism 1.0, it's so gauche. The vast majority of support for Zionism in America today comes from WHITES. Compare to the unwashed brown masses, including a majority of Jews, that make up the Pro-Palestine bloc. Zionism was founded as a fundamentally non-Talmudic ideology and was advocated for by secular, often Germanized, Jews. American-Israel relations does not paint the picture of an all-powerful lobby pulling strings from the shadows but a completely normal back-and-forth to maintain competing resource and ideological needs. America took the USSR's side with Egyptian Communist Gamal Nasser against Israel, the UK, and France in the 1956. JFK practically made their prime minister resign over their disagreements over nuclear weapons. Israel gave up the Sinai on American imposition. None of these are the maneuver of a ZOG but a real, verifiable COG, and perhaps maybe a FOG. The billions we give Israel in military aid originates from a Moral Majority putsch in the late 80s, not an infiltration of the State Dept by sons of Abraham. Zionism in America is a Baptist project. The era of Greatest Allyism is coming to an end, which you can already see by the backlash to Biden's lukewarm pro-Israel stance from newer, browner Democrats. Anyone paying attention to Israeli politics (believers of the ZOG do not) can already see this.

Furthermore, Palestinians smell bad. The newest Knesset is apparently the most Right-Wing government they've ever had; I say good.

I forget which book exactly it was, but one was recommended to be on the zionist/israel lobby in America. Apparently the Jews instinctively got scared and started trying to slander and bury it, but the actual book itself puts most of the weight on White American Evangelicals in high places. Another thing I want to look into. I'll try to get the title and get back to this thread.
#31
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#32
Quote:Gynecomastia prevalence across Jewish ethnes:
Pull that up, Jamie.
#33
Has anyone been following the judicial reform scandal going on in Israel? The right-wing legislature is attempting to gain more power over the judicial branch, which has, since 1995, had a similar level of supreme power to that of the US judicial branch via declaring it fait accompli, similar to Marbury vs Madison the US. The legislature has been seething over this for the last 30 years, since the judicial system is entirely closed and decides their successors on death. As such, they've been captured by the liberal, secular, US-leaning factions of the population, and will continue to be captured for the foreseeable future sans reform.

The obvious text of the proposed 'basic law' isn't particularly unreasonable, and is actually moving closer to the way that the heads of the judicial system are selected in the US. In fact, it actually gives the judiciary more control over the process, which is to say any, compared to the US system of judicial appointments.

If you listened to US think-tanks and journalists discuss the subject, you wouldn't get that impression at all, though:

Quote:Facing opposition from civil society, parts of the army and even within his own cabinet, Netanyahu paused the overhaul plans in late March, saying he wanted “to avoid civil war”.

The plan would give Netanyahu, who is on trial on corruption charges, and his allies in Israel’s most hardline government the final say in appointing the nation’s judges.

It would also give parliament, which is controlled by his allies, authority to overturn Supreme Court decisions and limit the court’s ability to review laws.

Opponents have said it will destroy a system of checks and balances by concentrating power in the hands of Netanyahu and his allies in parliament.

Quote:The governing coalition in Israel is considering an array of legislative acts that would weaken the independence of the judiciary and its power to constrain governmental actions. Numerous Israeli economists, in an open letter that some of us joined, expressed concerns that such a reform would adversely affect the Israeli economy by weakening the rule of law and thereby moving Israel in the direction of Hungary and Poland. Although we significantly vary in our views on public policy and on the challenges facing Israeli society, we all share these concerns. A strong and independent judiciary is a critical part of a system of checks and balances. Undermining it would be detrimental not only to democracy but also to economic prosperity and growth.

These are accompanied with protests that are obviously supported by the US Government.

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This isn't particularly surprising. The US has invested a lot in Israel, and it's a local power in the region. Becoming less aligned with the US is against US interests. The alignment of the US with the liberal factions of Israel is interesting, though, in comparison with other US Satellites like Poland, Japan, and Korea. These countries historically have had their conservative wings more aligned with the United States, while the situation is reversed in Israel.

It's also notable that the proposed changes include a number of vague clauses aimed at the secular faction, including mandating 'theological diversity' among the judiciary (We want more people of our tribe).

Quote:4. The committee must include in the selection process considerations such as: the professional level of the candidates, a reflection of the diversity of groups in Israeli society; the needs of the Supreme Court regarding the diversity of the areas of expertise of its judges, and the diversity of the composition of the judges in relation to their theological-judicial worldview.
#34
(05-02-2023, 06:47 PM)kirukuni Wrote: Has anyone been following the judicial reform scandal going on in Israel?

I have its been one of my entertainments this past month. The reactions of the Western press from serious stern reports to "This is a struggle from Israeli democracy" being said by both leftist and rightists Jews have given me much mirth in seeing long simmering contradictions in America's favorite democracy come forth. I have yet to see it framed by any side as anything but the realities of pic related coming to bare at least thats what I get reading between the lines in the English press.

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On one hand you have the rising tide of settlers, right wingers and ultra orthodox Jews who loath Arabs and those infringing on their values on the other the secular establishment who likes being able to say Tel Aviv has pride marches. You don't even need American ngos for a struggle, its baked into the pie.

I found this article most informative by a protester on what drives him and the forces behind the political struggle
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israe...ers-revolt
"A member of my former unit, a generation older than me, who has been a leader in these protests, spoke out one day about what was motivating him. He made four points to the crowd: 1) Like in the Army, we’re all united regardless of our individual political beliefs. 2) We’re fighting for our homes, our values, and the future of our grandchildren. 3) We can no longer accept the fact that the Orthodox are not working, not serving, and not paying taxes, but using us as their debit cards.[emphasis mine] 4) Israel shall remain a democracy—and we’ll fight for it to the end."
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“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel
#35
In short. The official Amarnite, and of every hard Righter that isn't an unsufferable Third Worldist contrarian. Position is wanting our countries to become big. White versions of Israel. I.E. Ethno-Nationalistic, Conservative, Militarised and Highly Tech-Focused economy that is easily able to keep their backwater. And brown. Agressive neighbours at bay despite being outnumbered by several times. Ukraine post-War will likely become the first "Big Israel" as stated by Zelensky. Due to both Women and Libtard sectors who are terrified to fight fleeing the country. And due to the Military (especially factions with heavy Ultranationalist influence, like AZOV obviously and Kraken, who is an Elite unit) gaining so much influence and power during the War that it will keep almost completely after the end of it.
#36
(05-10-2023, 06:58 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote: In short. The official Amarnite, and of every hard Righter that isn't an unsufferable Third Worldist contrarian. Position is wanting our countries to become big. White versions of Israel. I.E. Ethno-Nationalistic, Conservative, Militarised and Highly Tech-Focused economy that is easily able to keep their backwater. And brown. Agressive neighbours at bay despite being outnumbered by several times. Ukraine post-War will likely become the first "Big Israel" as stated by Zelensky. Due to both Women and Libtard sectors who are terrified to fight fleeing the country. And due to the Military (especially factions with heavy Ultranationalist influence, like AZOV obviously and Kraken, who is an Elite unit) gaining so much influence and power during the War that it will keep almost completely after the end of it.

Israel already has its subaltern members. Look at white-passing high-iq Ashkenazis versus the low-iq turkroach looking Sephardi and Moroccans. It's a religious state before it's an ethnostate, and sharing partial origin blood with another group doesn't mean as much people want to believe. The English are 60-80% celtic by blood, but they were very admirable for almost a thousand years. This is similar to the heritage shared by Ashkenazis and Sephardi (or god forbid Moroccan). Were Anglos and Micks ever equal? Why would Ashkenazis and Sephardi be?

Religious and ethnic norms obviously select for the types you care about and want, but only weakly, because you actually care about them being high-iq and having a soul, which isn't 1:1 to religion or race. To solve this, I believe that all immigrants should be chained together and hunted for sport to test prosociality and fitness. The survivors would be wreathed in petals and considered probationary whites after a tour of duty invading and killing their former countrymen to cut all ties with their former lives. New names would be chosen for them by the state, and on alternating full moons they would be allowed to eat their origin culture's delicacies while shrouded in fuligin cloth for modesty's sake.
#37
(05-10-2023, 06:58 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote: In short. The official Amarnite, and of every hard Righter that isn't an unsufferable Third Worldist contrarian. Position is wanting our countries to become big. White versions of Israel. I.E. Ethno-Nationalistic, Conservative, Militarised and Highly Tech-Focused economy that is easily able to keep their backwater. And brown. Agressive neighbours at bay despite being outnumbered by several times. 

A long time ago I saw someone write something like this, to paraphrase:
Quote:Normiecons look down on centrists for not being as right-wing as they are. Further right, Nick Fuentes types look down on Normiecons for the same reason, and Pro-Whites and Sensitive Young Men look down on Nick types. So the question is, is there some group even further right that looks down on us in a similar way?
I think that group is the jews. As you said, they have the same goals for their race and the same views of the brown masses as we do. The key difference is that they, unlike us, have achieved racial unity. Though there is infighting, it seems mostly about political stuff, and unlike with White people, there's no much thing as a jew that stands against jewish identity. 
Am I saying that we need to unite with le based joos? Absolutely not. However, considering their success in mobilizing their racial identity, it may be beneficial for us to begin thinking like jews. As in, we are God's chosen people, the rest of the earth exists only to serve us, it is permissible to lie and steal from those below us but not from us, basically Talmudic law but replacing the word Gentile with non-White.
#38
(05-16-2023, 08:59 AM)Spingebill Wrote: Though there is infighting, it seems mostly about political stuff, and unlike with White people, there's no much thing as a jew that stands against jewish identity. 

This is empirically false sorry to say mega protests happened in Israel recently due to fears of hardening Jewish identity religiously and racially away from the limits of typical liberalism or so it is said, and in the West many Jews are against the very existence of the Jewish state either de jure or de facto. Jews are not a race despite what it may seem to have magically escaped the tide of "modernity" they have ridden, their nation state exists as at a constant knife edge of political dynamics globally and in international institutions pushing it to become the next South Africa or Rhodesia. It should be understood the fundamental logic of what they have brought about in part with the edicts of Nuremberg is dissolution of all boundaries including the owns keeping them in any sense distinct from formless bugmen. Jewish identity is not formed by some master morality it is formed by being the ultimate victims that must recount for all time the dangers of the holocaust or a low religious communalism. For more on actual Jewish self image and what that implies
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-...-holocaust

Quote:The Holocaust for Neusner becomes an example of negative election that has its own exceptionalist consequences. Sociologist John Murray Cuddihy argues that divine election in a secularized form becomes an “ideology of Jewish moralism.” Jews see themselves as different and what happens historically (not theologically) to them as “different.” Ismar Schorsch, borrowing from Cuddihy, called this use of the Holocaust “a distasteful secular version of chosenness.” As a result, to the extent to which it does play a role in the religious lives of many American Jews, it does so as a foundational event and not part of a larger complex narrative.

It is not insignificant that the more religious a Jewish community, the less it seems obsessed with the uniqueness of the Holocaust or with the Holocaust more generally. For Neusner the very act of viewing the Holocaust outside the framework of the covenant, or as shattering the covenant, is a secular move. Neusner writes quite unequivocally: “Jews find in the Holocaust no new definition of Jewish identity because we need none. Nothing has changed. The tradition endures.” Of course, this is only true if there is a tradition, which is not the case for the majority of American Jews. If there is no tradition, there is nothing to endure, and if there is nothing to endure, the Holocaust becomes that which reflects, and refracts, everything.
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#39
(05-16-2023, 09:24 AM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote: Jewish identity is not formed by some master morality it is formed by being the ultimate victims that must recount for all time the dangers of the holocaust or a low religious communalism.

Interesting, thanks for the addition. It makes a lot of things about the Holocaust make more sense, like how the reason it's treated with religious reverence in schools is because for the jews who wrote the cirriculum, it is a religious occurrence.
#40
(05-16-2023, 04:33 AM)kirukuni Wrote:
(05-10-2023, 06:58 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote: In short. The official Amarnite, and of every hard Righter that isn't an unsufferable Third Worldist contrarian. Position is wanting our countries to become big. White versions of Israel. I.E. Ethno-Nationalistic, Conservative, Militarised and Highly Tech-Focused economy that is easily able to keep their backwater. And brown. Agressive neighbours at bay despite being outnumbered by several times. Ukraine post-War will likely become the first "Big Israel" as stated by Zelensky. Due to both Women and Libtard sectors who are terrified to fight fleeing the country. And due to the Military (especially factions with heavy Ultranationalist influence, like AZOV obviously and Kraken, who is an Elite unit) gaining so much influence and power during the War that it will keep almost completely after the end of it.

Israel already has its subaltern members. Look at white-passing high-iq Ashkenazis versus the low-iq turkroach looking Sephardi and Moroccans. It's a religious state before it's an ethnostate, and sharing partial origin blood with another group doesn't mean as much people want to believe. The English are 60-80% celtic by blood, but they were very admirable for almost a thousand years. This is similar to the heritage shared by Ashkenazis and Sephardi (or god forbid Moroccan). Were Anglos and Micks ever equal? Why would Ashkenazis and Sephardi be?

Religious and ethnic norms obviously select for the types you care about and want, but only weakly, because you actually care about them being high-iq and having a soul, which isn't 1:1 to religion or race. To solve this, I believe that all immigrants should be chained together and hunted for sport to test prosociality and fitness. The survivors would be wreathed in petals and considered probationary whites after a tour of duty invading and killing their former countrymen to cut all ties with their former lives. New names would be chosen for them by the state, and on alternating full moons they would be allowed to eat their origin culture's delicacies while shrouded in fuligin cloth for modesty's sake.

You missed the "WHITE version of Israel" part



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