Jewish Guilt and the Weight of Nuremberg
august
(06-14-2024, 03:11 PM)PhotogenicKalocrat Wrote: The snake oil salesmen are on both sides, ADL-Soros and wigger antisemites. The fertile ground is the simple existence of the Average Joel – a Jew – among lowbrow mouthbreathers – non-Jews – susceptible to wigger antisemitism. I don't really see too much that can be done here. We can't 'demobilize' the Average Joel without his total assimilation – making him a non-Jew. That's not going to happen.

What do you mean by "demobilize"? If you mean it politically, I already said in my first post that nearly the whole of the problem stems from the fact that you currently live under a system of government that has effectively been engineered to select for the lowliest, pettiest, most weaseling human type alive. This wholly unnatural selection of these types (and their specific groups) ""will continue ... as long as the democratic environment wherein the self-hating Jew thrives is abandoned for good."" You can "demobilize the Average Joel without his total assimilation" by remedying the issue that is having ethnic mafia families actually influence everything that happens. You don't need to erase 6,000,000.00 people, let alone one single person. 

(06-14-2024, 03:11 PM)PhotogenicKalocrat Wrote: Okay, then is there a practicable way of 'demobilizing' the wigger antisemite? Is simple awareness going to cut it? The "sober look" I was advocating was with regard to observing the conditions that make people more receptive to stuff. It is actually a difficult task to recognize what it is that people desire, so lets not underestimate salesmanship (lets drop the "snake oil"). So what do we sell to wigger antisemites? What exactly are they buying in the first place?

Who is "we"? I am not concerned with selling anyone anything. I cannot stress this to you enough: I do not care whatsoever about convincing the general mass of people anything. "Democracy" or "populism" or "opinion" means nothing to me because I think that all of those things are retarded and have been less than worthless for over a hundred years. Do you want to know what happens when you try to "sell" people on 'THE JEWS'? You start posting on twitter side-by-side image comparisons of the shape of a menorah with the design of the U.S. House floor. Or you become a David Duke, or a Richard Spencer, or a Nick Fuentes, all of whom became federal informants working WITH the SPLC, ADL, etc. Maybe it didn't start out that way for them, but that was the inevitable result. Why? Because they're retards. You know that those are the people who I'm referring to when I say "lowbrow" or "wigger antisemite" right? They want to be MLK (for White people though!).

On "salesmanship": the answer to what "people desire" has been shown to be a clear and resounding NOTHING AT ALL. Or very little, at most. I doubt that many Americans currently give a shit about anything beyond the typical anesthetics that they've grown accustomed to. If the "people" really "desire" something, why does Nothing Ever Happen? Here is what the "people" should do: (1) stand back, (2) stand by, (3) pledge their undying loyalty and support to Donald John Trump, (4) assemble in a huge group all the way down at the end of the long stream that runs from the special place called The Amarna Forum, and (5) let the hundred or so completely anonymous accounts that I follow on twitter handle saving humanity. "One man alone in a room with a computer, a typewriter as it was, can change the world. A few people alone in a room, if they cleave to an idea whose time has come, can still change the world." 

I saw a tweet just recently that puts into perspective a lot of where this conversation has turned. Of course, we are still waiting to see if @kythustra or @Zed have anything to say. But in any case, the tweet:

[Image: Irredeemably-antisemitic.jpg]

Notice the language that these two people choose: displaced guilt ... irredeemably antisemitic.

[Image: irredeemable.jpg]

Irredeemable: impossible to correct, improve, or change. 

Well, the first person is actually right in that Mr. Theodor Herzl did in fact basically say exactly that. But here is the absolute best part: guess who agreed with him?

 [Image: Ordeal.jpg]

So...

[Image: Ordeal-2.jpg]

Oh mein Gott... alle sind Juden. Scheiße.
PhotogenicKalocrat
(06-16-2024, 08:08 PM)august Wrote: You don't need to erase 6,000,000.00 people, let alone one single person. [...] Do you want to know what happens when you try to "sell" people on 'THE JEWS'? You start posting on twitter side-by-side image comparisons of the shape of a menorah with the design of the U.S. House floor. Or you become a David Duke, or a Richard Spencer, or a Nick Fuentes, [...] You know that those are the people who I'm referring to when I say "lowbrow" or "wigger antisemite" right?

Why do you assume I'm a wigger antisemite advocating for Making Antisemitism Cool Again? I didn't have in mind selling anyone on the 'THE JEWS', lol. On the contrary, the idea was to sell them something else — which I deemed unlikely. I had misunderstood you, and thought you brought the wigger antisemitic problem up as a separate issue from the democratic environment. But now I see you had in mind that one stems from the other. I didn't quite grasp that before.

I don't think this specific branch of the discussion can continue without some scrutiny of the fundamentals of the democratic environment itself, which is really a critical assumption underlying all of it. We were beginning to discuss it with Homosex, but we already deemed it too off-topic. So, would you be interested if I created a thread for specifically that: a discussion of the democratic environment, ie. the Post-Nuremberg World Order (if that's what it is)? It would allow for all the necessary branching- out of what is an extremely sprawling concept. I myself am skeptical of this democratic environment, though I may also be uninformed on it. If nothing else, I can provide what I believe to be fruitful steelmanning for some counterarguments.

(06-16-2024, 08:08 PM)august Wrote: I do not care whatsoever about convincing the general mass of people anything. [...] Here is what the "people" should do: (1) stand back, (2) stand by, (3) pledge their undying loyalty and support to Donald John Trump, (4) assemble in a huge group all the way down at the end of the long stream that runs from the special place called The Amarna Forum, and (5) let the hundred or so completely anonymous accounts that I follow on twitter handle saving humanity. "One man alone in a room with a computer, a typewriter as it was, can change the world. A few people alone in a room, if they cleave to an idea whose time has come, can still change the world."

Do Great Men come about by pleading the people to part ways like the Read Sea? Or ignoring them altogether? You think Caesar, Napoleon, Trump of all people, never engaged in salesmanship? Come on. From the speech you're quoting:

Bowden Wrote:The trick is to link the vanguard to the popular will and to find a way to link the vanguard to the popular will. So far, organizationally, in the post-Second World War world there has been a failure to link the vanguard to the popular will and that has occurred in all the societies of Western and Central Europe and has occurred even in the post-Communist Eastern European societies [...]

It's a "failure." Why has the left been outselling all this time? The Masses Are Stupid And Useless; okay, but why is their stupidity working against you and not for you? The Nazis left a bad aftertaste; okay, are people mistaken in avoiding stuff with bad aftertaste? The Jews and honorary Jews concocted the bad aftertaste via Talmudic alchemy; okay, where was The Right alchemy? No matter how I turn it, I can't but see it as a demonstrable failure on the part of The Good, and perhaps a repeating one. And definitely not something to be obfuscated away via amorphous spooks, which I suspect the democratic environment to be. Though I do still maintain the possibility of being uninformed on it. Again, I think a thread on it would be fitting.

(06-16-2024, 08:08 PM)august Wrote: Oh mein Gott... alle sind Juden. Scheiße.

Those images are fascinating. You've sold me on the book, I'll bump it higher in my to-read.

(06-16-2024, 08:08 PM)august Wrote: [Image: Ordeal.jpg]

Is Freud wrong here? I don't think he is. I think he's affirming the Extended Judeotype. The Jew is a Jew and very much perceptibly so. And he knows it. And the non-Jew knows it as well. And this tension in the air is what provides the fuel for endless incidents whereby Jews and non-Jews alike rediscover their difference. Every single Jewish remark on antisemitism manifests said antisemitism, for it is impossible to remark on antisemitism without at the same time affirming ones Jewishness against the other's non-Jewishness. The irredeemability of European antisemitism is nothing more than the indisputability of this difference.

I don't understand the last screenshot about the forced conversion of outsider-insider, though.
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