Keyedstaat Uniforms
#1
if we ever hope to achieve victory, whatever that may look like, we must also achieve aesthetic victory. to that end, it is paramount that the uniforms of our futuristic knightly mannerbund look as good as possible. please share your design ideas in this thread.

i'll start by sharing my thoughts on the two most obvious sources of aesthetic inspiration: plate armor and the ss.

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as far as i can tell, the aesthetic power of plate armor is peerless. when one is clad in full plate, it is as if an angel has descended from heaven to deliver divine wrath, never has man looked so close to a god. for obvious reasons nothing even approximating this is practical today, but perhaps some items can be made to resemble individual pieces of armor, as with the stahlhelms modelled after sallets. 

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that the iconic black uniforms of the schutzstaffel were the height of fashion in the 20th century cannot be disputed. i do not have much to say about them, except that we must forge a unique identity, thus we cannot rely too much on copying our predecessors. in particular i am not a fan of the funny-looking pants, but there does not seem to have been a universal standard anyways.
#2
https://blog.reaction.la/science/origins...nt-2850169


Jim Wrote:First commandment of fashion. Lose weight and put on muscle. Nothing fits a fat man, and nothing makes a fat man look good. If you are fat, might as well wrap yourself in a potato sack.

Which is a large part of how Kings lost power. Nothing that King George the Fourth wore could be fashionable. Ideas are more powerful than guns, but fashion is more powerful than ideas. Kings lost power because George the Fourth was unmanned by slut queen Caroline, but she was able to get away with it because Beau Brummel could snub George the Fourth. The problem was that Beau Brummel could destabilize men’s fashion, because the elite were wearing heavily decorated baggy clothes. So elite men’s fashion was something that could never be fashionable. So Beau Brummel got to out status King George the Fourth, making it impossible for him to perform the King’s proper role as the fount of all honors, mortal and divine, by which Charles the Second was able to redirect status competition into prosocial pursuits, notably science. (I am going to promote this comment into another fashion post.)

Second commandment of fashion. Having lost weight and put on muscle, buy something that fits your actual body shape. This is, inevitably, tailored to fit you, and only you. Therefore expensive. Buy something tailored to fit you and only you from the cheapest possible source in the cheapest possible way, for what makes it fashionable is the tailoring, not the name of the man who tailored it.

Why do Musk space suits look good? Because they are designed to be tailored, each one manufactured to fit one particular astronaut and no other, unlike NASA space suits, all of which are designed to fit anyone including a morbidly obese transexual. Because it is very difficult to keep a morbidly obese transexual alive in space while allowing it freedom of movement outside the vehicle, NASA space suits are impractically expensive, and make movement difficult.

This fashion advice is of course fashion advice for men, for female fashions are silly and do not matter. But the same applies to women, except that women should have about double the percentage of body fat that a man should have, and should not be undulyu muscular, and that women want some attention attracting flim flam oddities to make them look different from every other women – until everyone imitates the fashion leader, whereupon the fashion leader gets a costume with different attention attracting flim flam oddities, resulting in the never ending change of women’s fashions, and unchanging stability of men’s fashions.

When we bring women back under control, only whores (in the old sense of whore, not the twentieth century sense) will wear attention attracting flim flam, and they will all be extremely low status, and in danger of mistreatment, since their status will be similar to that of a stray dog. And the attention attracting flim flam will increase the danger of mistreatment, which is why they will enthusiastically decorate themselves in attention attracting flim flam. “because when those louses go back to their spouses, diamonds are a girl’s best friend”

When women are under control, respectable female fashion will have the same stability as men’s fashion, but disreputable female fashion will, alas, be where the action is. We just will have to keep it low status, in the same way as we will have keep gays in the closet. A bit of status lowering violence, here and there, now and again – though of course not so lethal.
#3
(09-12-2022, 08:26 PM)parsifal Wrote: if we ever hope to achieve victory, whatever that may look like, we must also achieve aesthetic victory.

Already have. Everything that looks good is already 'right' or 'our thing'. Honest taste is where we always win, because we're the honest ones.
#4
(09-12-2022, 08:45 PM)BillyONare Wrote: https://blog.reaction.la/science/origins...nt-2850169

Jim Wrote:Second commandment of fashion. Having lost weight and put on muscle, buy something that fits your actual body shape. This is, inevitably, tailored to fit you, and only you. Therefore expensive. Buy something tailored to fit you and only you from the cheapest possible source in the cheapest possible way, for what makes it fashionable is the tailoring, not the name of the man who tailored it.
Strongly agree with Jim here that the first point of order has to be getting fit, not being obese, fat people simply don't look beautiful, not matter what they wear. In such a case you're moreso dressing to hide an outward ugliness, which can admittedly be done to a high-degree, but that's all it is. Only for the fit is fashion really accentuating the person's beauty. I also agree that clothes should ultimately be tailor-fitted to each individuals body, it's without a doubt the best way to look. 

But I think the idea of 'the cheapest possible source in the cheapest possible way' only seems like a good idea to me if you don't have the excess money. I personally have no issue with excessively stylistic clothes from high-rate tailors, it just has to actually look good, which is obviously the hardest part. People seem to go a bit too crazy for the classic 50s businessman suit look in right-wing spheres. I don't mind business suits, and they're better than niggerfied streetwear, but I've always thought that while the suit looks professional and utilitarian, it also smacks of conformity and lack of creativity. There's something I admire in the uniqueness of aristocratic fashion: the point about George III and fat monarchs is of course true, but I do like the styles of nobles and kings from centuries ago.
#5
(09-15-2022, 10:44 PM)Leverkühn Wrote: But I think the idea of 'the cheapest possible source in the cheapest possible way' only seems like a good idea to me if you don't have the excess money. I personally have no issue with excessively stylistic clothes from high-rate tailors, it just has to actually look good, which is obviously the hardest part. People seem to go a bit too crazy for the classic 50s businessman suit look in right-wing spheres. I don't mind business suits, and they're better than niggerfied streetwear, but I've always thought that while the suit looks professional and utilitarian, it also smacks of conformity and lack of creativity. There's something I admire in the uniqueness of aristocratic fashion: the point about George III and fat monarchs is of course true, but I do like the styles of nobles and kings from centuries ago.
to be fair, i think what jim was getting at here is not to waste money on designer brands when you could get identical or better looking (logos make clothing look worse) items for cheaper, not that you should dress plainly.

the importance of dress is often unfairly maligned under the pretense that "fashion" is feminine. firstly, ceding any aesthetic pursuit to the domain of woman is conceptual cuckoldry, it is always male aesthetic preferences that ultimately shape female fashion choices. second, how you dress is just as much a part of you as your physique, no matter who you are. what you wear reflects on you in many ways (status, wealth, personality) and is a major factor in how others perceive you. there is no reason improving your physique and your wardrobe should not go hand in hand, except perhaps the practical considerations of fitting clothes to a changing body.
#6
I have considered what the Templist priests of Keyedstaat would wear. Christian monastic habits, hooded, seem to be a fine choice. In the early days when anonymity may be important, they may wear KKK-esque garbs, though the dunce cap looks silly and should be omitted; just a hood and mask will do.

It must be considered that a Templist priest is a representative of a particular deity. Thus, these garbs must be individuated. This can easily be done by color and symbols.

The congregation must also dress a certain way. It doesn't suit Templism for them to be in formal attire. Anything that would be unsuitable for action and combat, for men, would not look right. The aesthetic of the religion is not one of impractical and effete showmanship, it is the very opposite of that. For men, something like this would be suitable:

https://www.harrysarmysurplus.net/4687-v...-stop.html

With boots of any kind, and whatever pants go with the rest of the outfit. They should not, however, look like they are in uniform. That would not be the Templist aesthetic either, as it is an antinomian, tribal religion, which makes all of its moral appeals via self interest. Jeans would be fine. Men may be adorned with metal status objects that do not depreciate in value.

A man may also wear his Talisman for Courage, which is defined as a Bowie knife, smallsword, cutlass, hangar, or billy club made to certain symbolic specifications. The Talisman for Piety may be worn somewhere, such as around the neck or hung from the pants.

It is also possible that priests may dress the same as the congregation, but with cloaks over their attire, preferably long cloaks.

As for women, I am not certain. I feel that a woman, upon reading TC, would have a more intuitive grasp of what they should wear than I do. Of course, they should not dress like sluts.
#7
As far as I'm concerned, regarding verbiage, "fashion" is purely an arena for women, niggers, and sodomites to compete amongst each other for status in lieu of developing productive skills. Fashion is ephemeral and unprincipled, driven by so-called "designers" who exaggerate some feature arbitrarily for the sake of branding to their consoompigs.

Style is the aristocratic perspective on clothing. Style is the art of solving for the functional purpose of clothing within timeless aesthetic constraints that strengthen the spirit. Style is an assertion of status earned in the realm of knowledge, taste, and tradition as opposed to superficial gaudiness. It isn't something that trend-chasers could ever understand.
#8
(09-18-2022, 03:41 PM)Guest Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, regarding verbiage, "fashion" is purely an arena for women, niggers, and sodomites to compete amongst each other for status in lieu of developing productive skills. Fashion is ephemeral and unprincipled, driven by so-called "designers" who exaggerate some feature arbitrarily for the sake of branding to their consoompigs.

Style is the aristocratic perspective on clothing. Style is the art of solving for the functional purpose of clothing within timeless aesthetic constraints that strengthen the spirit. Style is an assertion of status earned in the realm of knowledge, taste, and tradition as opposed to superficial gaudiness. It isn't something that trend-chasers could ever understand.

Seems like a pointless semantics game more than anything. Fashion and style are deeply related concepts, I think the common adage is "fashion is trendy, style is timeless." But even granting your point, I'd agree with @parsifal that "ceding any aesthetic pursuit to the domain of woman is conceptual cuckoldry, it is always male aesthetic preferences that ultimately shape female fashion choices." Fashion being the arena of women, fags, and niggers is obviously just a contingent thing resulting from men's retreat from the arena. Letting fags set the trends has resulted in women dressing like unappealing retards, and adopting all manner of ugly beauty routines. When you let fags run "fashion," this is what happens. So call it "style" if it pleases you, but the point is that STRAIGHT men, who are actually attracted to the female form should go back to subtly dictating trends. A man designing clothes he thinks an ideal woman would look good in is like an artist who draws women he finds beautiful.
#9
(10-18-2022, 10:04 PM)Leverkühn Wrote:
(09-18-2022, 03:41 PM)Guest Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, regarding verbiage, "fashion" is purely an arena for women, niggers, and sodomites to compete amongst each other for status in lieu of developing productive skills. Fashion is ephemeral and unprincipled, driven by so-called "designers" who exaggerate some feature arbitrarily for the sake of branding to their consoompigs.

Style is the aristocratic perspective on clothing. Style is the art of solving for the functional purpose of clothing within timeless aesthetic constraints that strengthen the spirit. Style is an assertion of status earned in the realm of knowledge, taste, and tradition as opposed to superficial gaudiness. It isn't something that trend-chasers could ever understand.

Seems like a pointless semantics game more than anything. Fashion and style are deeply related concepts, I think the common adage is "fashion is trendy, style is timeless." But even granting your point, I'd agree with @parsifal that "ceding any aesthetic pursuit to the domain of woman is conceptual cuckoldry, it is always male aesthetic preferences that ultimately shape female fashion choices." Fashion being the arena of women, fags, and niggers is obviously just a contingent thing resulting from men's retreat from the arena. Letting fags set the trends has resulted in women dressing like unappealing retards, and adopting all manner of ugly beauty routines. When you let fags run "fashion," this is what happens. So call it "style" if it pleases you, but the point is that STRAIGHT men, who are actually attracted to the female form should go back to subtly dictating trends. A man designing clothes he thinks an ideal woman would look good in is like an artist who draws women he finds beautiful.

"Fags" in charge of fashion gave us ultra thin ultra white women wearing clothes that look ridiculous on all but the most beautiful 1% of humanity. The golden ages of fashion were led by homosexually inclined men. The "ugly beauty routine" you link above is not "fag" fashion. It's mongrel fashion. It's the modular bronze painted mask which is equally attainable to all. Real Fashion is about exclusivity and the "fags" understand this. Bronze makeup, fat asses, dark hair, we got these trends from slave peoples being told to aspire, and better people being told to be ashamed of themselves.

Real Fashion is about applying a conceptual eye to the world to make it better than its innate form. The pre rainbow flag "fag" of note is a conceptual man. Someone who is better than cattle-like acceptance of normality and inherited standards and values. Someone who wants to take the highest things around him and make them even higher and finer.


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The problem, which certain "fags" have, is an inability to identify as excellent. There are people who want to go back because they are afraid of going forward. This is not an essentially "fag" trait. In fact I would say that before "gay culture" the "fags" were more defined by the opposite, and that the great crime of the rainbow flag is creating a space and culture for degenerate retards largely by exploiting the achievements of these oppositely inclined characters.
#10
Personally, I always found the Cleric uniforms in the film Equilibrium to be very aesthetic, very good looking. As for the armor idea, I think the nigs have already beat us to it - some nigger went to I think the Met Gala in a custom piece of gold plate armor


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