LGBT Grooming as a mode of asexual reproduction

[anthony]

Considering where this is going now this might be relevant. I know trashy wiggers who pretend to be bisexual now because that gets them more attention from women. Went from no faggots around to this fairly quickly.

[GraalChud]

So rather than believing that there is a discernible motive behind a pattern of similar behaviors (“grooming”) engaged in by a bunch of individuals who we collectively call faggots (“LGBT”), it is more feasible to believe that “grooming” is the product of a bunch of retards who happen to be in privity with one another, share an identity with one another, and conceptualize themselves as a distinct group with distinct political interests just randomly acting and reacting in a retarded fashion that coincidently ends with the same result - grooming - even though there are ostensibly benefits (2 of which have come up thus far in this thread) they gain (individually and collectively) from engaging in this behavior

I’d be lying if I said that this is easier to believe than the whole “it’s a fetish” thing, the hypothesis I gave, or some multi-causal explanation that includes one or both of those hypothesis plus some other yet-unconsidered causes.

What does "grooming" even mean in your mind? What is this pattern of similar behaviours? Aside from rainbow bombardment of literal toddlers (which is primarily done by heterosexual women) I don't really know of much behaviour which constitutes "grooming" that actually goes on. There are the discord tranny lovebombing egg cracking struggle session insanity things. But that's not an "lgbt" phenomena. That's a very new and very limited "t" thing.

edit: well there's my answer right above me. But I still don't consider the answer satisfying.

I would consider a lesbian, gay, or troon teacher teaching small children about gay sex (either directly through lessons on these topics or by giving them “literature” on this, which is an attested to phenomenon that has resulted in multiple books being banned) who has no business doing so to be in the same vein as the whole egg-cracking thing, with the main differences being:

a) a difference of degree in terms of how extreme and insane it is;

b) the means by which it’s accomplished;

and c) how explicit the grooming party is about their intentions - in “egg cracking” scenarios, groomers seem like they’re pretty open about what they’re doing, whereas in the scenario I described, it’s not immediately obvious to many people that the goal in teaching kids about this stuff or exposing them to it could be to make them question their gender/sexuality and ultimately identify as something other than straight (a motive that, in my opinion, can unquestionably be ascribed to at least some, if not many, of the people engaging in this behavior)

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Considering where this is going now this might be relevant. I know trashy wiggers who pretend to be bisexual now because that gets them more attention from women. Went from no faggots around to this fairly quickly.

I experienced something similar, but in reverse - wigresses (female wiggers) pretending to be bisexual for male attention; it seemed that this was a strategy that they adopted from the black women they interacted with. I think the logic behind it was something like “being bisexual makes me desirable to men because it will make them think we can have threesomes, so I’ll say I’m bisexual so that men interested in that sort of thing will give me attention/try to date me.”

[Zed]

This made me realize that I made an error on my part - failing to define “grooming”. When I say grooming, I’m referring to a wide range of behaviors intended to cause children to question their “gender identity” and/or “sexual orientation.” While this can include full-blown pedophilic intercourse or molestation (as you described it), it also includes more “innocuous” behaviors like teaching kids about various “gender identities” and sexual orientations in schools, bringing them to/hosting/performing in drag queen story hours, drag shows, etc. Basically, I’m using the term in the same way that Matt Walsh might use it, and I think we’d agree that these sorts of behaviors are becoming increasingly more common. 

One other thing worth addressing: to Anthony’s point, heterosexual women do play a role in this, too, and thus my hypothesis re: the phenomenon of grooming does not explain their role in it; it applies only to those who fall into the “LGBT” category.

Ah, that. The intent behind *that* kind of grooming is not sexual --- it is vastly more pathetic than that. In so far as activist LGBT-types go, they universally project their own sense of oppression (perhaps anger against their parents) onto institutions/traditions and see themselves as part of revolutionary movement to ensure that no one has to experience the personal trials they experienced. Kaszycki's meditations on suppressed power processes is the best description of it, but the core motivation is always resentment. The result? A sense of moral righteousness on their part - that is why women are attracted to it - homophobia/transphobia conceived of as a failing and a chance to scold and judge others. In one sense, I agree that their end is producing more LGBT people - but because they truly believe that certain kids are already innately gay/trans and forced to repress by society. 

At the risk of restating myself a bit - Grindr is full of all-to-willing catamites waiting for a man to assume a relationship of command. The fags that go for that are usually quiet about their faggotry in general - or are idiots of the highest order. By counterpoint, the ones who are aggressively activist have ridiculous beliefs on the age of consent and the enforcement of sexual taboos around it. I've been called a pedophile for dating a 20 year old when I was 27 and exiled from local 'LGBT communities' as a 'potential abuser'. The same ecosystem that produces these kinds of activists also tells them that all relationships with unbalanced power dynamics are naturally abusive/exploitive.

These people want to see themselves as modern MLKs. Simple as.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

If anybody actually has that I would say it's the functionally heterosexual women who are absolutely berserk for pushing this stuff. They are the biggest groomers, normalisers, etc. What is their strategy? What is their end? Have you considered that people are just retarded?

The grooming theory in my opinion could be if I was of a more conspiratorial bent  be said to be nothing more than a smoke screen for the actual main causes in my view, women completely liberated from any bounds since the 60s, all manner of social acid being spilled everywhere from the campus to the classroom and the resulting unraveling of common norms until you get families like this:


The Jennings and their children's book which was something I had to hear about as a kid from those professionals we leave children their story and kind of family I am certain is more a driver of our modern queerness  than discord groomers or evil gay couples(at least per capta). Why do I say this? Because the data means we either had or now have the highest amount of child molesters in human history, or there's deeper social trends at play.

https://archive.ph/rcPeh

One in five adults in Gen Z (those roughly 18 to 26) identify as L.G.B.T.Q., according to Gallup polling, compared with 7 percent of adults in the United States overall. The majority of them identify as bisexual. About 2 percent of Gen Z adults are transgender, and about half of adults under 30 report knowing someone transgender.

https://archive.is/HS1j5

[anthony]

I would consider a lesbian, gay, or troon teacher teaching small children about gay sex (either directly through lessons on these topics or by giving them “literature” on this, which is an attested to phenomenon that has resulted in multiple books being banned) who has no business doing so to be in the same vein as the whole egg-cracking thing, with the main differences being:

a) a difference of degree in terms of how extreme and insane it is;

b) the means by which it’s accomplished;

and c) how explicit the grooming party is about their intentions - in “egg cracking” scenarios, groomers seem like they’re pretty open about what they’re doing, whereas in the scenario I described, it’s not immediately obvious to many people that the goal in teaching kids about this stuff or exposing them to it could be to make them question their gender/sexuality and ultimately identify as something other than straight (a motive that, in my opinion, can unquestionably be ascribed to at least some, if not many, of the people engaging in this behavior)

Again this has to answer the fact that heterosexual women are the cause's strongest soldiers. In school I got this garbage and it was all heterosexual women pushing it. Listen to and answer Zed. I keep a diverse collection of voices around here for a reason.

[anthony]

There's that evopsych theory that heterosexual women do this to push what they consider to be inferior males out of the gene pool. Hence the staggering amount of sneering female therapists prescribing HRT to healthy young men. (This is not a "trannies are eugenic" sort of thing lest I am misinterpreted. It has been consistently demonstrated that women are not eugenic and simply just hostile to life itself.)

Evopsych is completely fucking retarded. These women are all going to end up bearing the children of soyjaks. Jack Tisson knew this...

[JohnTrent]

I am late to the thread and will run the risk of reiterating points made by other posters.

The discussion of the LGBT is a difficult one. As said above, the attribution of certain actions to an entire group is always possible, making the full analysis obscured. One must carefully distinguish the political cause of LGBT and the sexual (or asexual) behavior of LGBT, because the manifestations of both run parallel to each other. Those who are hypersexual, or engage in pedophilic behavior, are peripheral to the political cause, and vice versa. Within this is an umbrella of certain behaviors beyond sexual connotation, such as an initiatic rite of "coming out", the close association to anything and anyone considered a representation of "gayness" (note: notice how certain popular Twitter accounts rally themselves around a particular brand, e.g. "X video game character is confirmed gay, he said trans rights"), and maybe some other actions I have not observed yet.

There is an intellectual form of grooming involved as seen in other cases of public schooling, and these matters are very perceptible to us. Reverend Moon Immortal mentioned LGBT as a political cause, and I would say this is correct in the general sense. Certain repetitive phrases relating to their movement is framed in political terminology: "[something something] our rights", "we're being legislated out of existence", "trans genocide" are all key phrases that include the evidence. They also have altered the phrase "hate crime" as "getting hate crimed", and have a considerable obsession with "slurs". Some of these phrases point to the hidden lineage of the Civil Rights Regime, others point to a mindset revolving around political matters. It is an evolved form of public school curricula, from the 1990s which would focus more on racial discrimination and prejudice; the teaching of LGBT and "gender identity" is another addition to the social fabric of propaganda, sanctioned mostly after the gay marriage decision in 2015. Public schooling (and maybe private schooling too, but I've never been) is, after all, the Zoomer student's first exposure to the LGBT cause. Of course, the casus belli of the 2016 election is exemplified in the exposure to certain Internet accounts, and both can play a coeval role in forming the cause. Some accounts on Instagram dedicated to this purpose can garner 1.4 million followers, simply because they post pro-LGBT infographics for the audience. I do not have any demographics on who follows and engages with such accounts, but my prediction is that the majority is girls under the age of 18, perhaps in the age bracket of 14-18 (maybe lower). It is a pro-social behavior engaging with such accounts, not simply in the regular sense of "virtue signaling" as a digital presence, but in real life.
Before I turn to the more sexual aspect, I have an open question: has anyone connected Gen Z / Millennial LGBT identification with participation in AP Civics / AP Gov? Could be baseless conjecture, but some fulfillment of the inquiry could lead to something. Just a thought.

Our new Unicode member had it right with the sexual grooming seen in this demographic: just as a murder would not consider his actions, the ones who do engage in sex crimes also are blind to it. I'd say all of us already know the statistic that 50% of pedophiles are homosexual or have some homosexual tendency, but it is also worthy to mention that such people were possibly exposed to this at an early age too. It is a matter of imprinting a sexual preference through forcible means, but this is accidental to the pedophile's main interest, which is gratification. There is really less to say on the subject than the intellectual form of grooming, because on one hand, that is already a known cause for homosexual behavior and promiscuity, and on the other (as said above), many heterosexuals ally themselves with the LGBT for reasons beyond sexuality. Many Zoomers, too, are duped into believing themselves to be outside heterosexuality, however bizarre this sounds. When it comes to lesbianism, there are many who believe something is "wrong" with heterosexuality, and try to get into a relationship with another woman. 99.9% of the time, this is a total failure; most of the time, one of them backs out before anything serious can happen. Some even engage in a relationship without any romantic or sexual actions occurring, all because of this manifest confusion. It becomes greatly disturbing once a person starts to believe they are a troon, because the non-surgical treatments are detrimental to the brain if given during puberty [Two different links as evidence: https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00044 & https://doi.org/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00528]
Gonna finish this post prematurely to see what people think, and go from there.

[Reverend Moon Immortal]

Before I turn to the more sexual aspect, I have an open question: has anyone connected Gen Z / Millennial LGBT identification with participation in AP Civics / AP Gov? Could be baseless conjecture, but some fulfillment of the inquiry could lead to something. Just a thought.

 Purely anecdotal, but In my high school AP Gov class 8/40 students were gay or weird outspoken “ally” . This would be abnormal for a normal class, but in my AP classes this was a normal sort of ratio(although that class was stupidly large).

[Zed]

I forgot if I mentioned this in the tranny thread - but there is a sub-type of trannies who see 'success' in their transition as a mode of 'revenge' on their parents. It is a hugely illuminating pattern once correlated with their other interests and activities. This mental frame is best understood by perceiving the world as hostile to your existence - and regardless of the truth or falsity of the claim, sublimating it into politics based on securing your existence and the existence of those like you. The rest of psychology follows immediately and clearly.

As the poster above mentioned, there is something distinctly separate from publicly identifying as gay/trans versus actually having gay sex/taking hormones. This is best illuminated by the fact the sexual character of a large number of publicly 'LGBT'-identified people is often functionally asexual, with high inhibitions towards sex, or only desiring sex within highly specific comfortable structures. This is true of most queer women and FTMs - but is also true of certain gay subtypes - furries love talking about sex, and conveying themselves as sexual beings, yet sex is something they actually do quite rarely. Even in long-term relationships. It is also true of trannies from the Tumblr generation and a certain class of romantically inclined gay men.

In all such cases, identity and belonging are primary.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

In all such cases, identity and belonging are primary.

The sheer scale and rapidness of their growth, the nature of their actions and speech in their circles and  the very existence of phenomenon like this as a forerunner:



For these reasons I concur.

[anthony]

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[JohnTrent]

Purely anecdotal, but In my high school AP Gov class 8/40 students were gay or weird outspoken “ally” . This would be abnormal for a normal class, but in my AP classes this was a normal sort of ratio(although that class was stupidly large).

Had a similar experience, was wondering if anyone else did too. Additionally, a similar portion will espouse beliefs in socialism (search on twitter "AP Gov radicalized" to see what I mean): mostly the same people, but sometimes more. I predict this general combination of traits will become more noticeable outside of the AP classes and into the general population of American public schools.
Also, most of those who were outspokenly gay or "allies" in my school also had a strong interest in becoming K-12 teachers. Many, in fact, succeeded in this. Make of that what you will.

[GraphWalkWithMe]

Taking the opportunity to contribute the dogpile, & having just skimmed the thread, I'll say that the Reverend's basic point reads correct to me. Yes, disengaged AWFL's form the majority of the pro-Rainboid bloc, but that's just a matter of numbers. Political action looms large in the minds of "gay people" - if we're to take orgs like Gallup/Pew at their word here (couldn't find relevant Trafalgar info), 9/10 of 2016 gay-identifieds were registered Dems - this is a higher percentage than 2018 Blacks (84%)! One then asks why this is the case - if Sodomy laws are no longer effectively in place and stand no likeliness of reinstitution, then what interest would they even have in politics? Are "gays" afraid of their lives being altered by legislation? Or are they just acting out a certain resentment, a desire to undermine normality?

In any case the "grooming" term might be effective in the short-term because of its lurid connotations, but it's something of a misnomer for the same. "Turning" might be more appropriate... Again, the largest contingency driving all of this pro-faggot shit are AWFL's, with gelded "straight" males, even some Blacks, etc. contributing aside from "gays". Most people waving the nü-pride flag aren't doing it so they can rape more children, it's more a display of political loyalty.

[kirukuni]

To the degree that there's any truth to the direct version of this, it would have to be understood as broadly incidental. People just aren't autistic enough to internally think about it in terms of 'expanded dating pools for my in-group' and get a boner from that. Any answer is going to be much more direct to individual experience and ego-syntonic in nature. No one is told that actually it would be socially-optimal to fuck x and then wants to do it. Otherwise, nonbinary gender goblins wouldn't complain about people finding them unattractive.

It's obviously a bit more likely to happen, though, and is a type.

Trannies are often very fixated on their troonsition. A lot of them have regrets about not trooning when they had a chance to be very small and cute. I've met a few who were very into the idea of being the person they wish they had around them, to help them avoid the fate they feel has befallen them. They see the world as fundamentally hostile and want to secure their existence and the existence of those similar to them. They always have a chip on their shoulder and usually sublimate rage towards parents to 'helping' children. This can obviously turn into grooming, and often is only a few links removed in social space. They're usually losers.

On the flip side, many proto-trannies, frankly, want to get fucked by an adult, and are going to try and find their way into tranny spaces. It seems to happen quite a bit in 4chan related spaces. If this gets caught, their parent will assume they were manipulated into it (which they may have been at some point), and the kid isn't going to contradict their panicking parent and say something that will get them beaten. Or they just leave and troon with their tranny e-gf and their parent copes in this way to avoid thinking about their bad parenting.

This can lead to the more interesting flavor of tranny grooming. Trannies are in the unique situation of commonly fantasizing about being groomed when young, and being potentially attracted to playing both roles in this fantasy. Even in adult tranny x tranny relationships, the spectre of the Mommy looms large. One of them will commonly be pushed into the role of being 'The Mommy' with the 'Gock' with everything that entails in their doujin-drenched worldview (being the man in the relationship, while the other relaxes and acts out their female fantasy. This is a common source of friction in loser tranny relationships.). The natural progression in taste that a straight person must experience can simply never happen. They can have the same sexual dynamic in their mind forever. Usually, this doesn't lead to grooming, but it's not impossible and is most of the tranny specific grooming I've seen.

This primarily describes white trannies, though. Asian trannies do the opposite and actively try to discourage others when possible. Black trannies are either white socialized or absolute creatures who should not be mentioned. White tranny spaces have multiple layers of implied gatekeeping to keep these sorts out, while actively saying they're as inclusive as possible. None of this is done consciously or on purpose. Natural selection at work.

It isn't actually all that common outside of the really notorious shit. A lot of it comes from she-devils (straight women).

[Zed]

[Cuddle Pile]

I've always felt torn about such things. Part of me wishes I lived in a world where it was normal to show physical affection towards your friends without it being a come-on. Have higher levels of closeness in general would be nice. There has to be a world between completely stigmatizing physical affection between friends, or assuming it's romantic. 

It was normal, at one point in my life, to let visiting close friend fall asleep in my bed with me rather than make them sleep on the couch. And most of the time it was fine, and I still do it with certain people - but it was also too often mistaken as a gesture/opening for sex or a relationship. For me, I just like an asshole making a friend sleep on the couch/floor when I had space on a California king. 

At the same point, things taken to excess become grotesque, when one lowers boundaries of personal space to groups, as in the picture - it debases the act of lowering boundaries by making it cheap. One should show affection meaningfully, or not at all.

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[Cuddle Pile]

I've always felt torn about such things. Part of me wishes I lived in a world where it was normal to show physical affection towards your friends without it being a come-on. Have higher levels of closeness in general would be nice. There has to be a world between completely stigmatizing physical affection between friends, or assuming it's romantic. 

It was normal, at one point in my life, to let visiting close friend fall asleep in my bed with me rather than make them sleep on the couch. And most of the time it was fine, and I still do it with certain people - but it was also too often mistaken as a gesture/opening for sex or a relationship. For me, I just like an asshole making a friend sleep on the couch/floor when I had space on a California king. 

At the same point, things taken to excess become grotesque, when one lowers boundaries of personal space to groups, as in the picture - it debases the act of lowering boundaries by making it cheap. One should show affection meaningfully, or not at all.

[Mason Hall-McCullough]

This made me realize that I made an error on my part - failing to define “grooming”. When I say grooming, I’m referring to a wide range of behaviors intended to cause children to question their “gender identity” and/or “sexual orientation.” While this can include full-blown pedophilic intercourse or molestation (as you described it), it also includes more “innocuous” behaviors like teaching kids about various “gender identities” and sexual orientations in schools, bringing them to/hosting/performing in drag queen story hours, drag shows, etc. Basically, I’m using the term in the same way that Matt Walsh might use it, and I think we’d agree that these sorts of behaviors are becoming increasingly more common. 

One other thing worth addressing: to Anthony’s point, heterosexual women do play a role in this, too, and thus my hypothesis re: the phenomenon of grooming does not explain their role in it; it applies only to those who fall into the “LGBT” category.

Maybe "grooming" isn't the right word. I think the most significant factor you've mentioned here is kids being taught degenerate ideas about sexuality, and I would expand this category to argue that the way degeneracy spreads is through perverse ideas transmitted and normalized in all kinds of media, especially the internet. Degeneracy doesn't target specific individuals in the sense that grooming is usually considered to, and it's hard to directly blame individuals for the effect this messaging has in aggregate. "Stochastic grooming"? (See "stochastic terrorism")

Sometimes fags will claim "<xyz> turned me gay/trans/etc", but realistically it's more often going to be the sum of lots of small corrupting influences that pervade modern culture. Honestly, "mind virus" is unfortunately the most accurately descriptive term I've heard. Maybe it could be said that LGBT ideas are hijacking human reproductive instincts similar to how viruses hijack cellular reproductive processes.

Degenerates nowadays are very vocal about their identities, I think their tendency to broadcast "gay faggot crap" is a key reason for their ubiquity and the closest thing to a reproductive mechanism they have. A minority of them are groomers in the literal sense, but the overall effect of their flags being spammed everywhere, visible infiltration of specific groups, and "representation" in popular culture is much more harmful (and harder to address) than a simple grooming cult would be.

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I would say I agree with our unicode posting friend more than anybody else in this thread on the essentials. On the part of actual "gays" I think it's mostly just acting and reacting without any great conscious vision. If anybody actually has that I would say it's the functionally heterosexual women who are absolutely berserk for pushing this stuff. They are the biggest groomers, normalisers, etc. What is their strategy? What is their end? Have you considered that people are just retarded?

And as for obtaining catamites, do you believe that all homosexual adoptions are for the purposes of molestation? Are you reading your own posts back before submitting them?

While the simplest explanation (that individuals have been given too much freedom, and have made terrible decisions) is correct, I don't think it paints the full picture of how we got here. Stupid ideas and trends aren't usually this pervasive or enduring, and I think the fact that these ideas are centered around sexuality in particular suggests something more is going on.

I can understand the aversion to systems thinking and "evopsych" because it often confuses/misleads with unfalsifiable arguments and lazy analogies (e.g. "LGBT is the new religion"), but I don't find individualist framings of this phenomenon as persuasive.

Emergent behavior doesn't require individual actors to have a conscious vision of what's going on. The iteration of homosexual culture that also involves rabidly spreading recruitment materials and trying to infiltrate every organization on the planet is going to be more viral than the version of homosexuality that doesn't, and eventually we end up with loud and malignant homosexuals. I've encountered a small number of troons that keep their perversions private; spamming flags and pronouns everywhere is a separate adaptation and not something inherent to sexual deviancy.

[Zed]

...While the simplest explanation (that individuals have been given too much freedom, and have made terrible decisions) is correct, I don't think it paints the full picture of how we got here. Stupid ideas and trends aren't usually this pervasive or enduring, and I think the fact that these ideas are centered around sexuality in particular suggests something more is going on.

On a personal level, everything is American civil rights simulacra - children reliving the perceived victories of their (spiritual) ancestors. On a societal level, identity politics wins under empire because subordinating different groups under a political system produces a particular discoherence rendering a large populace manageable and immunizing the elite to the possibility of a Hitler (or a Lenin, or a Napoleon, or a Cromwell). In finance, risk is most commonly managed by diversification - and it is no different anywhere else. It leads to immediate political dominance, as the potentiality (risk) for emergent anti-regime consensus is stifled. Market forces in turn also favor political discoherence, because it yields opportunity and lifts restriction. If a desire is stifled, it cannot be commodified. 

In a certain future, things will turn to the favor the right - not in a way that anyone here would desire, but by commodifying the aesthetics, leaving vague a lifestyle rightism with exclusive dietary supplements and 'trad' communities that you effectively buy into - the groundwork for this is already in play and you can see the movements/trends on Twitter. BAP naturally gives way to REN/Sol Brah, who themselves will naturally give way to right leaning 'influencers' selling literal snake oil, private education for kids, 'trad' dating apps, for finding that Perfect Sundress-Wearing e-thot of your dreams.

The decentralized forces at work do not want to turn everyone into a tranny, but they are interested in making everyone a spiritual tranny of a sort - bound a notion that if the over-system collapses - they will lose everything they have. If they import another hundred million or so Hispanics, they'll be glad if the idea of race war terrifies you. In such a world, you might feel that things are bad as they are, but they could become infinitely worse under a collapse. At least you have your little lifestyle larp and a monthly subscription to snake oil supplements (which will be in fashion, because some RW influencer is going to run a campaign claiming snake oil is actually good for you - which is true of course, and exactly the line that someone with a deep seated distrust of authority will buy into). [see a recent trend on contrarian right-adjacent twitter: McDonalds is actually healthy for you.]

It's a control structure, albeit that one arose from decentralized emergent phenomena. The double entendre of globohomo, the allusion to global homogenization, was always incorrect --- global diversification gets closer to the nature of the thing.

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All of this is a roundabout way of getting to a deeper point. All humans desire to be unique, special, and morally righteous. Most are none of those things and are quick to buy into anything that provides distinction and sense of it. This is the base psychological-exploit within our processing of this world that realized our modernity. NRx-adjacents, by way of Austrian sympathies, miscalculate and attribute our order to some subversive communism, Jewish or otherwise. 'Cultural Marxism', 'Bioleninism', etc... this was always a cope. The world as it is willed itself into existence because humans are imperfect - have 'flawed' desires and seek their fulfillment, and the market/political superstructures recognized it and exploited it.

In a past world, most people lived harder and more difficult lives, and the need for 'individual identity' was irrelevant to them - it was reserved for the elite, who defined themselves by literature, art, learning and personal taste generally speaking. Only the peasant belonged to a community, the aristocrat was always an individual. Men like Casanova thrived as such. They were loved as such.

[Guest]

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On a personal level, everything is American civil rights simulacra - children reliving the perceived victories of their (spiritual) ancestors. On a societal level, identity politics wins under empire because subordinating different groups under a political system produces a particular discoherence rendering a large populace manageable and immunizing the elite to the possibility of a Hitler (or a Lenin, or a Napoleon, or a Cromwell). In finance, risk is most commonly managed by diversification - and it is no different anywhere else. It leads to immediate political dominance, as the potentiality (risk) for emergent anti-regime consensus is stifled. Market forces in turn also favor political discoherence, because it yields opportunity and lifts restriction. If a desire is stifled, it cannot be commodified. 

There are no 180 iq Machiavellian elites. None of the actions are down to extend tyranny, no one’s even in power long enough for that to happen. Communist won ww2 and now America is a socialist nation. It was pretty cool how America was designed to make sure what you’re talking about would be impossible, but it could not defend against wave after wave of radicals each taking what their predecessors had done and improving upon that. The other side are the opportunist who let it happen.

In a certain future, things will turn to the favor the right - not in a way that anyone here would desire, but by commodifying the aesthetics, leaving vague a lifestyle rightism with exclusive dietary supplements and 'trad' communities that you effectively buy into - the groundwork for this is already in play and you can see the movements/trends on Twitter. BAP naturally gives way to REN/Sol Brah, who themselves will naturally give way to right leaning 'influencers' selling literal snake oil, private education for kids, 'trad' dating apps, for finding that Perfect Sundress-Wearing e-thot of your dreams.

Sol Brah is before Bap. You Learn about Sol brah before Bap as a normal person. Only radical(left and right) learn the other way around

The decentralized forces at work do not want to turn everyone into a tranny, but they are interested in making everyone a spiritual tranny of a sort - bound a notion that if the over-system collapses - they will lose everything they have. If they import another hundred million or so Hispanics, they'll be glad if the idea of race war terrifies you. In such a world, you might feel that things are bad as they are, but they could become infinitely worse under a collapse. At least you have your little lifestyle larp and a monthly subscription to snake oil supplements (which will be in fashion, because some RW influencer is going to run a campaign claiming snake oil is actually good for you - which is true of course, and exactly the line that someone with a deep seated distrust of authority will buy into). [see a recent trend on contrarian right-adjacent twitter: McDonalds is actually healthy for you.]

Decentralization was a side effect of communist winning and betraying the population of a nation. Yeah, all power is now used to make sure no other group but fellow communist can do politics. Trad life style is normie stuff you retard.

It's a control structure, albeit that one arose from decentralized emergent phenomena. The double entendre of globohomo, the allusion to global homogenization, was always incorrect --- global diversification gets closer to the nature of the thing.

Dumb nigger, throwing around words to make dumb leftist worldview look relevant. 

All of this is a roundabout way of getting to a deeper point. All humans desire to be unique, special, and morally righteous. Most are none of those things and are quick to buy into anything that provides distinction and sense of it. This is the base psychological-exploit within our processing of this world that realized our modernity. NRx-adjacents, by way of Austrian sympathies, miscalculate and attribute our order to some subversive communism, Jewish or otherwise. 'Cultural Marxism', 'Bioleninism', etc... this was always a cope. The world as it is willed itself into existence because humans are imperfect - have 'flawed' desires and seek their fulfillment, and the market/political superstructures recognized it and exploited it.

But why Japan? Why did healthy nations exist in the past? No I guess this is just normal, nigger. 

In a past world, most people lived harder and more difficult lives, and the need for 'individual identity' was irrelevant to them - it was reserved for the elite, who defined themselves by literature, art, learning and personal taste generally speaking. Only the peasant belonged to a community, the aristocrat was always an individual. Men like Casanova thrived as such. They were loved as such.

Nothing that I can find wrong here.