Loser Sociology - Incel and Blackpill Communities (dbdr case study)

[obscurefish]

Imagine an alternative universe where instead of "incels" we had "innums" who believe their lives are over because they're genetically unable to understand higher math. I saw an image of a anonymous blackpill .pdf manifesto from this world in my mind's eye.

[anthony]

Haven't been posting every video here, but you guys know the situation roughly I presume. The Ramona Flowers Academy provided lots of fun insight into how destroyed young women are (but victims of what they want rather than not getting what they want like dbdr and his kind), now he's out, his mother saw it doing nothing for him and pulled him from the program (dbdr would feel good during the week then emotionally crash and drink heavily on weekends to cope with loneliness), now we're here.


[Video: https://youtu.be/ckEX-cP5HvA]

dbdr first person expedition arc might be starting soon. I really strongly recommend watching all of the Ramona Flowers Academy Arc episodes for the perspective on young women. dbdr isn't too judgmental personally but things sound really bad over there. Related to what was recently written on J'Accuse about employability. These girls are basically worthless to society now. It would cost more to make them work than they could ever contribute in many cases it seems.

The thought I had in response to the J'accuse piece (maybe it belongs in another thread but I want to talk about it here) is that we should really explore unemployability by kind to determine where and how things are going wrong. On J'accuse these people are referred to as stupid. Sub 100 IQs and so on. I have to wonder. Perhaps my perspective is very skewed by who I am and my preferred company but I have to wonder how many of these burned out and worthless types were better human stock who took the 21st century particularly hard. And how many are just redundant bottom tier labour stock who are now encouraged to go to university for no reason? How many of these girls dbdr is witnessing nuke their brains with daily weed and normalfag internet are innately subnormal types. If anybody else has watched these latest videos or has thoughts on this in general I'd be very interested in hearing. Considered commenting about this on J'accuse but didn't want to bother them or seem critical because I really respect what they do.

In short the question raised by the Ramona Flowers arc and the J'accuse piece together is "how much of our bad human stock is essentially bad?" I believe a lot of this has to just be a consequence of giving a weird spread of extreme privileges, deranged and incoherent justifying ideology, and no accountability to women. Do they all have IQs below 90? I think a decently intelligent person can be reduced to this with the right (or wrong) prompting.

[anthony]

dbdr is under attack


[Video: https://youtu.be/vYP-cdtxhmM]

I never heard of this guy before now. A friend brought this to my attention. dbdr's video on having a hard time finding a job got insanely boosted by the algorithm so now this is happening.

This video is two minutes long and I'll just copy my reply here in case you can't find it.

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[Guest]

The thought I had in response to the J'accuse piece (maybe it belongs in another thread but I want to talk about it here) is that we should really explore unemployability by kind to determine where and how things are going wrong. On J'accuse these people are referred to as stupid. Sub 100 IQs and so on. I have to wonder. Perhaps my perspective is very skewed by who I am and my preferred company but I have to wonder how many of these burned out and worthless types were better human stock who took the 21st century particularly hard. [...] Do they all have IQs below 90? I think a decently intelligent person can be reduced to this with the right (or wrong) prompting.

This is why bashing the homeless falls completely flat. Don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be on the streets bothering people and they're offensive to the senses, but it's normie sadism. This is evidenced by the recent normie meme about throwing bricks at/poisoning homeless people. Things as they stand truly aren't set up fairly and everyone knows it, but blacks/browns, women etc. are the ones most unfairly advantaged by the current state of affairs, not 'the homeless'. Dbdr and Jack_Tisson, for example, are unfairly disadvantaged.

As for the J'Accuse article, even the example given of that woman who demands 'pastoral care' could certainly be forced to work, she's just deluded about the amount of deference owed to her -- sub-80 IQs can work if the tasks are simple enough. The problem of women in general is that if they aren't taking care of a family OR working in some way they basically go insane and become completely intolerable. They can't maintain themselves whatsoever in the absence of some heavy yoke weighing them down on a day-to-day basis.

[Star_Sung]

This is why bashing the homeless falls completely flat. Don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be on the streets bothering people and they're offensive to the senses, but it's normie sadism. This is evidenced by the recent normie meme about throwing bricks at/poisoning homeless people. Things as they stand truly aren't set up fairly and everyone knows it, but blacks/browns, women etc. are the ones most unfairly advantaged by the current state of affairs, not 'the homeless'. Dbdr and Jack_Tisson, for example, are unfairly disadvantaged.

You absolute retard. Hating the homeless was cool because it was a flagrant refutation of the lachrymose humanistic altruism that promotes “mo money fur dem programs,” and in general other irrational actions that counter eugenics. It’s not normie sadism because my internet tribe is so up stream in the cultural flow that it is now inevitable that all memes are recycled from what my group posted years ago. It’s just plain sadism. Sadism that is still not socially acceptable in communist America, but is popular online because the cool kids whom were shouting “TND” now own the only real culture.

[cats]

Furthermore, it's not normie sadism because normies by and large love the homeless and think living around them acculturates them somehow. Normies think you're weird for not wanting to walk past homeless encampments that reek so strongly of urine and feces that you have to hold your breath to not vomit on a daily basis. They see every homeless person as a cool and wise negro (or negro-adjacent, on account of smelling awful and being poor) who shares their "street wisdom" with passersby. Even when normalfags muster up the self-respect to detest the homeless, they couch their language in discussions about "rehabilitation", "housing programs", and so on. They don't have the courage or will to say that we should just euthanize them, as we should, because they are disgusting. Where is this normie sadism towards the homeless you speak of?

[BillyONare]

There is a difference between a libtard and a normie. You must live in San Francisco or something.

[obscurefish]

dbdr is under attack


[Video: https://youtu.be/vYP-cdtxhmM]

I never heard of this guy before now. A friend brought this to my attention. dbdr's video on having a hard time finding a job got insanely boosted by the algorithm so now this is happening.

This video is two minutes long and I'll just copy my reply here in case you can't find it.

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I think guys like this see too much of themselves in Dbdr and they're very uncomfortable with it.

[anthony]

I think guys like this see too much of themselves in Dbdr and they're very uncomfortable with it.

I'm sure that these guys feel how shallow the "i am a loner samurai old testament sufferer who has no enemies" thing is. How little it actually makes anything better or provides "meaning" or whatever. But if they give it up where to from there? Very scary.

[Guest]

It's been almost a year since i started posting in this thread, and suffice to say, I don't think he has really learned something, he is almost where he started.

[JohnTrent]

It's been almost a year since i started posting in this thread, and suffice to say, I don't think he has really learned something, he is almost where he started

To be fair, there isn't much to learn in the places he's at. I'm assuming the locations he's been moving around are all found in the Southern part of America, which is often where human potential plateaus. People around there in my myopic experience tend to think that their lives are pretty much done once they turn 19; youth is precious and everything succeeding it is a depressing ordeal. It wouldn't surprise me if that atmosphere influenced his behavior and thoughts. There are two paths for him to follow at this moment: either getting employment or remaining idle, neither of which can completely satisfy a person like him. It would be nice to see him DeFOO and move somewhere else but, in his perspective, he might reply with "For what purpose? It'll still be over anyway".

[Guest]

The blackpill is the ultimate knowledge. All of these replies, these sneering, self-satisfied screeds are really quite ugly, because despite you lot being "intellectuals" and using all of these big words you still fail to see that at the end of the day your ideas are nothing more than knee jerk generic blackpill hatred and you are wrong.

The blackpill is supported by so much information and so many observations that it's not even funny. While there are outliers in everything and there are blackpilled chadlites who could get laid if they didn't read the BP too much no amount of anecdotes can disprove the truth of the BP.

"Oh bro he has no fire in his heart." "Oh he is too juvenile and stupid to understand the greater purpose I've found." Are you even listening to this pseudo intellectual babble?

Dbdr is a broken man who could get laid with some mediocre chick but doesn't because of a multitude of factors, most of which are not up to him to choose. What people here don't understand is that even the "Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" that gives you the grit and determination to work, "self improoove," keep trying or even find some other purpose to life is genetic as well! Not everyone gets born with the grit, and some get it beaten out of them by society because they are ugly/have a bad environment.

You can't beat human nature. Not even Hitler's perfect 1488 society can, and while it would no doubt be much better than what we have today you still would get starfish sex at most and your wife would cuck you with a better looking man than you. Hell, most of you don't realise it but you subconsciously treat people differently because of factors they can't change, like that one post where the guy says that Baaedescortcel's voice makes him hate him (JFL).

You try to come up with complicated solutions and answers that aren't even realistic because swallowing the blackpill would a) mean you're wrong and b), which is my assumption based on personal experience, that it would be too mainstream. That accepting any idea from someone else that you didn't heavily modify and that isn't very obscure would challenge both your sense of uniqueness and your belief in your intelligence.

But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand.

It's been almost a year since i started posting in this thread, and suffice to say, I don't think he has really learned something, he is almost where he started

To be fair, there isn't much to learn in the places he's at. I'm assuming the locations he's been moving around are all found in the Southern part of America, which is often where human potential plateaus. People around there in my myopic experience tend to think that their lives are pretty much done once they turn 19; youth is precious and everything succeeding it is a depressing ordeal. It wouldn't surprise me if that atmosphere influenced his behavior and thoughts. There are two paths for him to follow at this moment: either getting employment or remaining idle, neither of which can completely satisfy a person like him. It would be nice to see him DeFOO and move somewhere else but, in his perspective, he might reply with "For what purpose? It'll still be over anyway".

That's the puzzling thing, despite achieving milestones like geting a job and even for a while moving out from his mom, it all came tumbling back from square one, and it only seemed to make him even more depressed/blackpilled after the fact. The growth and constant engagement of his audience has proven counterproductive at this point with the creation of his second channel.
Has this year been the last gambit he had into ascending?

[Guest]

Hitler perfect society 2: It is normalized to make your wife wear an ankle bracelet so you can track her location at all times. Chad Thundercock is arrested and executed. Genetic testing and bastard abortion mandatory. If you wife is not sexually sufficient, you beat her until she improves.

[obscurefish]

I think guys like this see too much of themselves in Dbdr and they're very uncomfortable with it.

I'm sure that these guys feel how shallow the "i am a loner samurai old testament sufferer who has no enemies" thing is. How little it actually makes anything better or provides "meaning" or whatever. But if they give it up where to from there? Very scary.

To me this attitude is the only thing that really deserves to be called "cope" because in its most malignant form it's just self-denial with no purpose. You have guys who react to their own unhappiness by attempting to convince themselves that their personal happiness doesn't matter for no reason. Dbdr is anathema to this attitude because even if he use questionable incelosphere lingo to do it he's just a guy sincerely expressing his own unhappiness.

People attack Dbdr as a "bad person" for expressing his unhappiness. Why? It really makes no sense if you think about it logically. If he's a "bad person", why should he be happy? Why does it matter if he's unhappy? If you sincerely want him to be happy, then you can't really think of him as someone who is essentially bad.

It is usually unpleasant to hear people whine and complain. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but the attitude that regards "whining" as purely a bad thing is an evil one. Whining contains an implicit regard for the value of happiness, whereas the subtext of what some people say contains the message that it has no value.

[TroubadourD'Oc]

https://youtu.be/JEXu5yX0-HA

[JohnTrent]

https://youtu.be/JEXu5yX0-HA

I went through a few videos on his channel. He's an idiot, really, but anyone could realize that. Interesting to compare this to Adam Lanza's "light speed" explanation of antinatalism:

Goodness is the fulfillment of value. Value exists only in life. If there is no life, there is no value. And thus goodness becomes an entirely irrelevant concept.

Notice how Lanza's basic summary of antinatalism is considerably more abstract, which is further true when you look at other saved videos from the CulturalPhilistine account. All I hear in these videos are a repetition of the same statements provided in another.