Normie Sadism
#1
At this point, everyone here has heard about this phenomenon, which I believe is increasingly defining culture, politics, everything in general (though it is said, and is very correct, that normies don't really exist anymore, that is beside this specific subject). The phenomenon itself deserves it's own thread more specialized than the "Acceptable Targets" one, I think.

What I notice as an outlander in a place where this phenomenon is much weaker, is that in western, particularly American contexts, this goes far beyond sadism into genuine hatred and vitriol. Perhaps with the disappearance of the normie, the sadism is only increased further. Often I get the impression I'm talking to human bombs, or some such, simply itching for an excuse and opportunity to maul someone like a shitbull.

What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.
#2
(06-10-2022, 03:27 PM)Svevlad Wrote: What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.

From Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals
Quote:The slave revolt in morality begins when ressentiment itself becomes creative and gives birth to values: the ressentiment of beings denied true reaction, that of the deed, who recover their losses only through an imaginary revenge. Whereas all noble morality grows out of a triumphant yes-saying to oneself, from the outset slave morality says "no" to an "outside," to a "different," to a "not-self:" and this "no" is its creative deed.
I think many "normies" in the Western world walk around with this massive amount of hatred and rage in their hearts, and they can't let it out violently, so it just stews within them internally. And of course, these are often decently educated people well-versed in the mores of our culture, which views racism, sexism, or any kind of bigotry as the worse things imaginable. So when these people do end up exploding, it's not going to be against the niggers they see constantly making a mess of public spaces or the Shaniqua at the DMV. When they blow up, it's going to be against one of those "easy targets" discussed in the other thread. Largely I think 'normie sadism' has arisen and reached such extreme levels because we can't physically act out our anger and offense in a violent manner: whether that be a duel or just a small fist-fight, something like that is impossible for someone entrenched in well-mannered, white-collar culture. I think because they can never let this energy out externally, it just becomes something very rotten, beyond what would be the case if people just duked it out in physical fights. They desperately wish to let this energy out, but they feel inadequate in their ability to do, so when they do get a chance to act out revenge it takes on this incredibly sadistic quality you won't find anywhere else.
#3
(06-10-2022, 03:27 PM)Svevlad Wrote: At this point, everyone here has heard about this phenomenon, which I believe is increasingly defining culture, politics, everything in general (though it is said, and is very correct, that normies don't really exist anymore, that is beside this specific subject). The phenomenon itself deserves it's own thread more specialized than the "Acceptable Targets" one, I think.

What I notice as an outlander in a place where this phenomenon is much weaker, is that in western, particularly American contexts, this goes far beyond sadism into genuine hatred and vitriol. Perhaps with the disappearance of the normie, the sadism is only increased further. Often I get the impression I'm talking to human bombs, or some such, simply itching for an excuse and opportunity to maul someone like a shitbull.

What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.

Normies don't exist anymore? How so?
#4
(06-13-2022, 12:10 PM)chungus Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 03:27 PM)Svevlad Wrote: At this point, everyone here has heard about this phenomenon, which I believe is increasingly defining culture, politics, everything in general (though it is said, and is very correct, that normies don't really exist anymore, that is beside this specific subject). The phenomenon itself deserves it's own thread more specialized than the "Acceptable Targets" one, I think.

What I notice as an outlander in a place where this phenomenon is much weaker, is that in western, particularly American contexts, this goes far beyond sadism into genuine hatred and vitriol. Perhaps with the disappearance of the normie, the sadism is only increased further. Often I get the impression I'm talking to human bombs, or some such, simply itching for an excuse and opportunity to maul someone like a shitbull.

What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.

Normies don't exist anymore? How so?

There even was an old thread about it, but look at how things are: "normie" is someone who is fully normal, yes? "According to the norms" and so. Yet, does the biomass we call normies fulfill any sort of objective norm? It's all junkies, SSRI chomping media addicts without even the basest of ambitions, total husks. In any sane society, these would be institutionalized, if allowed to live, even.
#5
(06-13-2022, 02:10 PM)Svevlad Wrote:
(06-13-2022, 12:10 PM)chungus Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 03:27 PM)Svevlad Wrote: At this point, everyone here has heard about this phenomenon, which I believe is increasingly defining culture, politics, everything in general (though it is said, and is very correct, that normies don't really exist anymore, that is beside this specific subject). The phenomenon itself deserves it's own thread more specialized than the "Acceptable Targets" one, I think.

What I notice as an outlander in a place where this phenomenon is much weaker, is that in western, particularly American contexts, this goes far beyond sadism into genuine hatred and vitriol. Perhaps with the disappearance of the normie, the sadism is only increased further. Often I get the impression I'm talking to human bombs, or some such, simply itching for an excuse and opportunity to maul someone like a shitbull.

What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.

Normies don't exist anymore? How so?

There even was an old thread about it, but look at how things are: "normie" is someone who is fully normal, yes? "According to the norms" and so. Yet, does the biomass we call normies fulfill any sort of objective norm? It's all junkies, SSRI chomping media addicts without even the basest of ambitions, total husks. In any sane society, these would be institutionalized, if allowed to live, even.

I always interpreted normie as just someone who went along with whatever is socially acceptable at the time
#6
(06-13-2022, 02:10 PM)Svevlad Wrote:
(06-13-2022, 12:10 PM)chungus Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 03:27 PM)Svevlad Wrote: At this point, everyone here has heard about this phenomenon, which I believe is increasingly defining culture, politics, everything in general (though it is said, and is very correct, that normies don't really exist anymore, that is beside this specific subject). The phenomenon itself deserves it's own thread more specialized than the "Acceptable Targets" one, I think.

What I notice as an outlander in a place where this phenomenon is much weaker, is that in western, particularly American contexts, this goes far beyond sadism into genuine hatred and vitriol. Perhaps with the disappearance of the normie, the sadism is only increased further. Often I get the impression I'm talking to human bombs, or some such, simply itching for an excuse and opportunity to maul someone like a shitbull.

What is the root of this? I believe a degenerated social enforcement impulse provides the root, but it is a neutral one - the impulse is useful in a healthy society. What we're dealing with is much more severe, and explosive. This makes it useful to truly get to the factors that caused this misguiding.

Normies don't exist anymore? How so?

There even was an old thread about it, but look at how things are: "normie" is someone who is fully normal, yes? "According to the norms" and so. Yet, does the biomass we call normies fulfill any sort of objective norm? It's all junkies, SSRI chomping media addicts without even the basest of ambitions, total husks. In any sane society, these would be institutionalized, if allowed to live, even.

These normies are in a uniquely diseased state for our time, more or less coping with the frivolities of the post-industrial West, the decay of culture, and seemingly bleak future ahead of them. The state of normies is a reflection of society itself in a decadent, purposeless state. It has never been this bad.


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