Post Victory Thread: Secret Societies

[Carbide]

Premise: Since the American and French Revolutions, at the latest, Aryan nations have been ravaged by the activities of secret societies and cults.
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After your coming victory and ascension to supreme leadership over the Aryans, how do you set about rooting out the activities of Judeo-Satanic cults?
My answer is to scramble up people with distance and isolation. I'll get rid of telecommunications and randomly resettle each family in newly constructed towns. This might seem extreme, or an overreaction, but it is going to be necessary regardless if we are to end urbanism, as 80% of the Aryan population lives in cities and will need to be resettled. Might as well go all in on it for a truly fresh start. Losing contact with each other due to physical distance and absence of mail/telecomms will simply make it impossible for the cults to reproduce themselves. Since most people are followers in any organization, the number of people who can self-start and begin rebuilding the cult in their new area from square one will be extremely limited, and there will be mission drift as each of these leaders will now be acting on their own understanding of the cults' ultimate goals, which will dispossess the jews who created these cults of their true, secret purposes. As such, these cults, unless founded by crypto jews who evaded the floorboard inspection squads, will mostly become harmless and run by degenerate Aryans rather than malicious jews. Police interdiction can then set about infiltrating and breaking apart these neutered cults and exiling their leaders.

[Guest]

Care to give examples of Judeo-Satanic cults or give it more definition. Is it the Freemasons? Is it the woke parents forcing their children to become trannies at age 5? Is it the leftist organizations filled with political activists? Literal satanic cults run by the elites? Jewish influence by way of Hollywood that has solidified in the mind of boomers and gen-x leaving them partially retarded? Is it the media? Is it just liberals who live in cities in general?

[Carbide]

Care to give examples of Judeo-Satanic cults or give it more definition. Is it the Freemasons? Is it the woke parents forcing their children to become trannies at age 5? Is it the leftist organizations filled with political activists? Literal satanic cults run by the elites? Jewish influence by way of Hollywood that has solidified in the mind of boomers and gen-x leaving them partially retarded? Is it the media? Is it just liberals who live in cities in general?

You, as supreme Aryan leader, have found out that you have a bunch of organizations such as Jesuits, Free Masons, Knights Templar, Learned Elders of the Protocols of Zion, Church of Satan, Alphabet Corporation and the "Italian" Mafia. They're all active in your country, working against what you deem to be the best interests of the Aryans and with secret membership and secret goals. It turns out most crypto jews who escaped the Attic Inspection Squads are members of these organizations. WYD?

[Guest]

The West is saved, hooray! But how do we keep the West saved?

Ourside will be local chuds, local law enforcement and a special task force designed to find and destroy cult activity. For this task force depending on if we suspend the constitution or not when we win the task force  will have to be created through what ever means of polity remain. The task force will be given the objective of finding cults and destroying them. It will generally be autonomous, an autonomous secret police or inquisition force. It will have an intelligence group and a armed forces group. The intelligence group will have central administration and intelligence gathering.

On the local level in the new re-housed zones local chuds will be on the look out snitching to local law enforcement on any suspicious activity. For most cult activity local law enforcement will be enough. Of course there is the chance that the local law enforcement can be compromised or can’t handle more complex cults. The special task force on the other hand will focus on the more organized and intelligent cults that will manage to operate. How much traffic and free movement are allowed in these new non-urban zones? How well can information travel? The information side of the special force will investigate place on local levels looking with suspicion on all large potential gathering of men. They will also seek to find any secret means of communication used by cell to communicate with other cells. 

Once investigation is handled they should be able to find all cults with sizable member amounts. After this they determine when it’s best to deploy their armed force wing. They have liberty to do as they please with the cult member once detained. Torture for more information or execution is all in there hands.

[saeik]

Extremely stupid takes. You don't destroy secret societies (let alone completely destory the social fabric of a community of *your own people* by forced resettlement) — instead, you ensure that they serve you with some degree of patronage. Same with organized crime.

Corruption, when employed towards state interests and public safety, is a *good* thing.

[Guest]

The West is saved, hooray! But how do we keep the West saved?

Ourside will be local cults, local clerical enforcement and a special task force designed to sift and invigorate cult activity. For this task force depending on if we suspend the constitution or not when we win the task force will have to be created through what ever means of polity remain. The task force will be given the objective of finding cults and integrating them. It will generally be autonomous, an autonomous secret police or acquisition force. It will have an intelligence group and a armed forces group. The intelligence group will have central administration and intelligence gathering.

[Svevlad]

It's actually very simple - see, "judeomasonic" - no Jews, no bullshit. No niggers, no foot soldiers for those faggots to use. No libtards etc etc...

If you kill many many people, there won't be anything these organizations could do. Combine with an eugenics program to create a population immune to manipulation, and they're rendered utterly and eternally useless.

[JohnTrent]

I find the role of secret societies to be overstated. When they function best [edit: and for clarification, I would like to mention that the "best" is not very impressive as seen below], it is within a conventional liberal order (speaking in T777 terms, both the pre- and post- Nuremberg liberal order). The ones that are more sympathetic to our objectives, e.g. the Klan, only take the form of a secret society to counteract prevailing tendencies. The orchestration of cults and secret societies can vary in their importance, but most can be assimilated or pacified with time: Mormonism started out as a staunchly anti-Federal religion that took its own breakaway territory, willing to defend it with force, but now they have been assimilated into government operatives themselves. Scientology had once attempted a large-scale infiltration of the US government then ended up as a mostly innocent enterprise, its most notable believers being Hollywood celebrities. You might retort that this prolonged pattern has more to do with Pax Americana more than any essential nature, but we are not yet in a position to determine that. The dual characteristic of secret societies and cults is that they are as attractive as they are repelling, and its persuasiveness can only go so far. These regimented orders are unable to grow under our current soil.

In #WWWW, there can be the strategy having them serve your own ends (as @saeik puts it), or force their transformation into a honeypot / informant-ridden organization. I am not overly familiar with the strategies which Italy and NS Germany used, but there didn't appear to be much struggle when it came to the Freemasons: admittance into the Italy Party required people to sever their relations with Freemasonry, and NS Germany outlawed its existence. It is hard to imagine that the pushback was anything remarkable. So long as there is a well-understood alignment on who should be excluded from society, and who should stay, most remaining would-be members of a secret society would be drawn further into the ranks of the Party. There are less joiners nowadays than before, but if they began to exist in vast numbers, they can be persuaded into the cause without disastrous subversion (assuming that they are of good stock, of course). I'm not sure if people here recognize just how willing the American people are to follow a cause — this isn't me putting on some Dark Triad mannerism, I truly believe they hunger for significance. They want to believe that recent ZOG movies are some of the best movies of all time, they want to believe black music is actually good; that tendency will not leave at the moment of victory, it will instead be transferred over to our ends.

[august]

I think it's pointless to consider ways to get rid of secret societies when pretty compelling arguments have been made that the formation of new ones is probably going to become necessary to even have a chance at WWWW. We live in the peak surveillance state that would've been completely unimaginable to the average person of just 30 years ago. The reality of it is actually probably still unimaginable to the average person today. Point being, as I type of this post, I have no freedom, and you probably don't either. But you know who does? 

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People who belong to the most elite and exclusive secret societies. 

While not a completely precise comparison, it's still illustrative if we just consider this forum. Why have 600+ of us, to date, went out of our way to even make an account? One reason has to be because we're offered a certain freedom here that we don't have on other platforms, and just generally in modern society today. Another that's just undeniable and by extension related to the previous is that there's an elevated level of conversation happening here. A platform like Twitter is deeply retarded because you are subject to all the worst levels of subhuman retardation that unfortunately managed to somehow get their hands on a phone and access to the internet. Hundreds of millions of active Twitter users. It excludes no one. We have to be honest, part of this forum's appeal is that not many retards know about it. Even the ones who do and talk about it on their tranny forums can't even comprehend half of the conversations happening. It is exclusive ("Amarna Forum is not a real thing"). If you're an hipster faggot who just wants to feel avant garde and say nothing of substance while sitting in a few selective group chats (see many of the 'Big Names' of the 'Dissident Right' on Twitter), it will be immediately obvious to others that you're a retard the second you post something. 

Those items aren't exhaustive and should obviously all be thought of generally. I'll also add that one thing that I find myself very much in agreement with BAP on is his view on the necessity for, in his words, "mafias" in the not distant future. It is very easy to rag on the Italians, both in America and in Italy, but it is worth looking into how and why the Briganti, the precursor to the Mafia, even came about. A good number weren't low-level criminals and peasants, but loyalists to their legitimate sovereign. Hypothetically speaking, if your exiled king called on you and presented an opportunity to finally experience real freedom, what would you do? Would you even be able to do anything at all?

[Guest]

It seems that a competent cult is always a bit better than a mafia. Or, that a competent mafia is always going to be a sort of cult. Propaganda Due was important enough post war that the TPTB had to remove them, which says something if not a glowing reputation.