Straight homosexuals: a breakthrough in amateur e-sociology
#21
(02-01-2023, 08:24 AM)Hamamelis Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with OP's etiology of pure infiltration by gay culture, at least as far as the RSH/RHF subtype goes. I think it is partly caused by the thorough negation of all male, violent, and sexual impulses in boys. This subtype is afraid of expressing sexual desire openly. He fears the scolding voice of his teacher, or of her friends, should he express himself to the object of his desire. Maybe he fears being laughed at as well. Certainly, the reason he creates these fantasies of tenderness around make-belief women is that he knows it's sexual - that's why it can't be a real woman. But admitting that it's sexual would be crossing the line, so he leaves it a tenderness instead. Diminished to the status of a pet.

Hard agree with this, I think the error goes so far as to invalidate the terminology, it needs tweaking. Like Guest James said, "hetero faggot" or "straight faggot" is far more accurate than "straight homosexual"; we're not accusing RSH or VSH of secretly wanting to fuck men, but acting like fags. The phenomena is homosexual only in that it and homosexuality stem from similar roots, i.e. males (often low-T) growing up neutered and with distorted and perverted expectations of the roles of men.
#22
some good points have been brought up thus far. it's difficult to overstate how pervasive these types are and how much of an impact they've had on our culture. sex in the public consciousness is entirely viewed through the lens of these straight faggots, i recall when i was a child it was often spoken of it being a desirable trait in a woman that she would "let you do anal with her" as if that were the zenith of sexual intimacy. obviously i can't say how much this reflected the reality of people's practices at the time but it's clear enough from this that vulgar straight faggots were the 'tastemakers' in the sexual domain, this sort of behaviour being the most blatant inheritance from proper sodomites.

in the transition from the cultural dominance of the vulgar type to the romantic straight faggot, that particular perversion has left the zeitgeist, but its little brother fellatio stuck around. as it stands the average person prizes oral sex above real intercourse and struggles to even conceptualize a man who doesn't. not long ago fellatio was considered a novel french invention, another example of breakneck cultural change since the '60s. either way, it truly seems these romantic straight faggots comprise a supermajority of zoomers right now. another point for team NPDEA.
#23
(01-30-2023, 12:00 PM)parsifal Wrote:
(01-30-2023, 10:23 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: ... American negrification that was often ignored by less racially-sensitive commentators (Evola et al) ...

https://counter-currents.com/2015/10/negrified-america/
consider yourself warned about countersignaling evola.

I actually wrote that after reading that essay. I adore Evola, as he is the philosopher of my teenage years and thus of my purest soul. What I meant was that it seemed as though Evola had a fixation on the more obvious brutishness and loudness of the Negro, as opposed to the more subtle and at-the-time less well-known gynocratic element (which has really only been best expounded upon in our Century via Hakanian racial thought). Evola was always an occultist and a spiritualist first, and in these he excelled; yet his piercing insight into the Negro spirit is well-complemented by a thorough Hakanian analysis of Negro biology.
#24
(01-30-2023, 10:23 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote:
(01-29-2023, 09:34 PM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote: Great OP, JoCat's  video despite me never watching nor I will ever attempt to watch more than 5 seconds of it has become a object of near monomaniacal obsession for me lately. The phenomenon described is of great importance socially. I have some thoughts I may post latter but can't now properly but I have one critique to share.

(01-29-2023, 08:33 PM)Haruspex Wrote: The idealized women involved tend to be wearing skimpier clothes, are almost always "thick", and while they will still never have sex directly they'll still imply it much more than its high RSH counterpart. These are the people that put food on the tables of soft porn Makima artists, and if left to their own devices would worship a slightly more modest depiction of the Venus of Willendorf putting a poor neolithic farmer in a collar.

There is a important cultural and RACIAL aspect here that I feel should have been at least nodded to which is the people who do that-negros and the dark masses have seen their mores in this regard spread in lockstep with the sexual revolution you described. Creating more a spectrum than a strict high low per say in recent years. At least that's how I view it.

The proliferation of the oft-ignored African gynocracy is an aspect of American negrification that was often ignored by less racially-sensitive commentators (Evola et al) who were more fixated on the much more obvious and offensive barbarism of an increased taste for loudness, violence, and thuggery than that much more deep-rooted and insidious trait of the Dark Continent.

(01-30-2023, 01:22 AM)Bankvole Wrote: [...] though this is downstream of the blackening of mainstream (white) culture, which has been ongoing for at least 30 years now). [...]

You are far too optimistic at only 30 years. See Carl Jung writing in the 50s:
Quote:Another thing that struck me [in the American] was the great influence of the Negro, a psychological influence naturally, not due to the mixing of blood. The emotional way an American expresses himself, especially the way he laughs, can best be studied in the illustrated supplements of the American papers; the inimitable Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro. The peculiar walk with loose joints, or the swinging of the hips so frequently observed in Americans, also comes from the Negro. American music draws its main inspiration from the Negro, and so does the dance. The expression of religious feeling, the revival meetings, the Holy Rollers and other abnormalities are strongly influenced by the Negro. The vivacity of the average American, which shows itself not only at baseball games but quite particularly in his extraordinary love of talking – the ceaseless gabble of American papers is an eloquent example of this – is scarcely to be derived from his Germanic forefathers, but is far more like the chattering of a Negro village. The almost total lack of privacy and the all-devouring mass sociability remind one of primitive life in open huts, where there is complete identity with all members of the tribe.

Lovecraft sort of extends Jung's observation on negrotic extroversion (in body language, etiquette, and interaction) to the American moral preference for dogs to cats. For cats are for those who value the cool indifference of beauty, while dogs are for yokels who value pointless gregariousness. Dog people are the ones who ask the most ephemeral of strangers how they're doing. So you get an invasive question as opposed to a 'hello,' or just polite indifference and respect for abstract space. This sort of gregariousness I tend to think is an un-white trait because it's not really associated with northern cultures.
#25
(02-01-2023, 08:24 AM)Hamamelis Wrote: I think it is partly caused by the thorough negation of all male, violent, and sexual impulses in boys.

This is a important detail that must be seen along with the rise of Negro Kultur even who do not fall for those mores across all races/cultures to various degrees being male is BRUTALIZED. I once saw a economist qip to another social scientist who was complaining of the eternal 18-23 year old male violence "problem" that any study of history reveals that we now had a fix for that-schools. School and all the other paltry spaces given to male youth are practically if not the outright intent veiled in bureaucrat speak made to sand down boys and men. There is another element to make this a trifecta the sexual revolution and its total upending of male and female relations on all levels from when both are co mingled at the age of six in child prison to college to marriage(or rather its non existence now) has made it as far as you can see there is only ruins were any norms stand. The RSH then arises from this blasted heap.
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#26
(02-02-2023, 04:09 PM)Trevor Bauer Wrote: Lovecraft sort of extends Jung's observation on negrotic extroversion (in body language, etiquette, and interaction) to the American moral preference for dogs to cats. For cats are for those who value the cool indifference of beauty, while dogs are for yokels who value pointless gregariousness. Dog people are the ones who ask the most ephemeral of strangers how they're doing. So you get an invasive question as opposed to a 'hello,' or just polite indifference and respect for abstract space. This sort of gregariousness I tend to think is an un-white trait because it's not really associated with northern cultures.

I disagree with the association of dogs with negolatry. Dogs in their most profound form are agents of absolute service. The issue I see with American dog love is not with of preference to dogs over cats (Hitler himself cherished his dogs) but how Americans pervert the act of ownership. There's no sense of wardship over the animal, Americans treat their animals like ill-behaved children. I was appalled when I moved from to a mixed urban environment and saw how even Whites treated their snappy larval dogs like gods. Americans, and increasingly all POZZED countries, hate and subvert the act of ownership. Women, the actual heads of households in current year, love to flaunt their power in vulgar ways (acting with impunity, attacking their partner's manhood, abusing their young, etc) but eschew responsibility when it comes down to real things like child rearing and financial support. Think of the archetypal American Mother dragging her shitty kids around the supermarket who upon hearing the slightest disciplining of their child from a stranger flies into a blind rage at the perceived attack on their authority. The Modern American Mother is the same with her pets as she is with her sons; ill-equiped, half abusive and half lenient.

Unrelated: do you guys think an animal thread would be a good idea?
#27
dogs bad even tho Hitler, cats good even tho nigger_kikedalus
#28
Is there not a connection between libtards and cats? What about their parasites causing homosexuality?
#29
There was such a theory (referring to toxoplasmosis and its effect on rats) but it's unfortunately easily refuted when it comes to humans.
#30
(02-03-2023, 04:39 PM)BillyONare Wrote: Is there not a connection between libtards and cats? What about their parasites causing homosexuality?

This. There's probably some underlying pattern to this that makes liberals more likely to own cats, but I don't know what it would be. Anyone can immediately tell that Lovecraft would love cats and that Trump would hate them, so there's obviously something we're all calculating in the background.

Are Amarnites cat or dog lovers? I strongly prefer cats.
#31
That JoCat guy is just a normal homosexual, his art site is filled with gay shipping and stuff like that. Probably not even attracted to women, just wanted to signal that muscly fat girls are hot too because that's what his fag hags look like.
#32
(02-03-2023, 08:18 PM)Guest Wrote: That JoCat guy is just a normal homosexual, his art site is filled with gay shipping and stuff like that. Probably not even attracted to women, just wanted to signal that muscly fat girls are hot too because that's what his fag hags look like.

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He actually has a GF if you had looked over his twitter.
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#33
I wanted to give it a while before weighing in, now that the thread is off topic I can say that I appreciated the OP effort but genuinely cannot read the thing or anything building on it. This level of theory I think gets absurd. We're floating off into space. Not actually talking about anything we know or care about too deeply, at least as a foundation. Who the fuck is jocat? None of us care about him or know more than the 30 second meme video.

If this were presented less like a theory (because it's not, at least not yet) and more as a series of observations we might have something readable.
#34
The issue's gravity should be grounded by the question of *why* men are faggots today.

The "whies" lie behind basic things like the massively-scaled broadcasting of fetish-pornography into children's iPhones, the very deliberate curation of submale personality types via social pressures/media, and the ultimate gelding of 2023 man's legal capacity to exercise political action. Most White men today are faggots because they've been totally caged, and just choose to give up. I think all this underlays a lot of tranny/cuckold/normoid thought. "Take more of my money, fuck my girl, none of this matters because I can just opt out of life and the government tells me I'm a Good Person for it."

The "whies'" answer is the problem here that needs addressing. Symptoms and diagnosis are interesting but only to a point.
#35
It is difficult and embarrassing for me to admit this, but I have a fairly strong identification with one of these camps. I have persistent dominatrix-themed sex fantasies. I think it could have come from early exposure to certain pornography or from certain early-life treatment by women. It has resulted in some personal grief and annoyance, but has never faded particularly, nor have I been able to eliminate it. Nowadays I am less inclined to eliminate it and intend more to sublimate it.

I still understand the importance of male leadership in relationships, and still aspire to greatness and conquest. I mainly write to note that the mindset described here and enjoyment of Amarna Thought are not mutually exclusive.
#36
(02-12-2023, 01:58 PM)Guest Wrote: I mainly write to note that the mindset described here and enjoyment of Amarna Thought are not mutually exclusive.

Could you elaborate on what do you view as "Amarna Thought" and how this mindset can fit in with it?
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#37
(02-12-2023, 02:18 PM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote:
(02-12-2023, 01:58 PM)Guest Wrote: I mainly write to note that the mindset described here and enjoyment of Amarna Thought are not mutually exclusive.

Could you elaborate on what do you view as "Amarna Thought" and how this mindset can fit in with it?

All I mean by Amarna Thought is Amarna Forum content and the elements contained therein that spill over into twitter.

When I say the dominatrix-fetish and enjoyment of the Forum are not mutually exclusive, I say so using myself as an example. There could very well be unreconcilable conflicts. If so, you should count yourself blessed to not have the fetish. I stress that I do not think the world should be ordered according to my fetish, so it is not a commitment of belief on my part, but rather a pattern of intrusive thoughts.
#38
(02-12-2023, 01:58 PM)Guest Wrote: It is difficult and embarrassing for me to admit this, but I have a fairly strong identification with one of these camps. I have persistent dominatrix-themed sex fantasies. I think it could have come from early exposure to certain pornography or from certain early-life treatment by women. It has resulted in some personal grief and annoyance, but has never faded particularly, nor have I been able to eliminate it. Nowadays I am less inclined to eliminate it and intend more to sublimate it.

I still understand the importance of male leadership in relationships, and still aspire to greatness and conquest. I mainly write to note that the mindset described here and enjoyment of Amarna Thought are not mutually exclusive.
 
Thank you for sharing this. For the sake of developing the theory further, could you please tell me more about the specifics of your fantasies and your theories for why they manifest? Any information you feel relevant to this at all would be much appreciated.
#39
(02-12-2023, 02:42 PM)Haruspex Wrote:
(02-12-2023, 01:58 PM)Guest Wrote: It is difficult and embarrassing for me to admit this, but I have a fairly strong identification with one of these camps. I have persistent dominatrix-themed sex fantasies. I think it could have come from early exposure to certain pornography or from certain early-life treatment by women. It has resulted in some personal grief and annoyance, but has never faded particularly, nor have I been able to eliminate it. Nowadays I am less inclined to eliminate it and intend more to sublimate it.

I still understand the importance of male leadership in relationships, and still aspire to greatness and conquest. I mainly write to note that the mindset described here and enjoyment of Amarna Thought are not mutually exclusive.
 
Thank you for sharing this. For the sake of developing the theory further, could you please tell me more about the specifics of your fantasies and your theories for why they manifest? Any information you feel relevant to this at all would be much appreciated.

Here goes. The fantasies are highly diverse, coming as they have from half a lifetime. The mild ones are mostly about the idea of 'servicing' a female companion, mainly thoughts of kneeling and kissing her body while she stands, lies or sits upright. I think of doing this to the legs, arms, stomach, buttocks, back, neck, cheeks, breasts, and female parts. Other fantasies include physical torture (beating with an implement or by hand), especially being beaten until I cry, or alternatively being made to go through extensive beautification (e.g. haircut etc.) or have my wardrobe changed by the dominant female figure, or rope bondage, or being branded or tattooed. I once wrote a story where the male protagonist, an early medieval warden unwilling to compromise his own chastity, taught his beloved female friend how to safely tie someone up using rope, so that she could 'rape' him. I've never had sex with a woman myself and put a high value on my chastity.

At my worst they are fantasies of depraved torture by a truly evil figure, usually imagined as a feminist. My recent study of Renaissance and Medieval art has comforted me somewhat over this, though it used to trouble me deeply: European art has an abundance of Weibermacht works, as well as gruesome depictions of martyrdom, which I feel respectively speak directly and diffusely to this tendency. In my most prideful and idiotic religious moments I have had a meta-fantasy that what I am actually experiencing are visions of an eventual martyrful end at the hands of the woman-cult.

The dominatrix figure is always physically beautiful in these imaginings; they come on for the same reason any other, more normal sex fantasy would come on for me. My taste in actual women is fairly normal: kind, younger, virginal, thin, long-haired, and fair-skinned. I recall being fairly tormented in childhood by my (lesbian, feminist, attorney) older sister; I also had a mother who didn't do much around the house while my dad did a lot of work to keep everything together. Besides this I was exposed to this style of pornography from a young age, because I searched it out online. I have always been someone who consumed written pornography instead of videos, so it was mainly in writing, sometimes with illustrations or still photography. (This includes hentai).

I hope I'm not embarrassing myself (or this venue) too much by the above. I request that you view this with whatever sympathy you can.
#40
Thanks once again, and do not worry too much about judgement on my part. While obviously an unideal condition I can understand that it was, in one way or another, probably hoisted onto you through formative relationships with women in your younger years. A few more questions, if you don't mind:
Do you remember what your first crush was like, if so, did you exhibit the same femdom tendencies then? Do you think any of your romantic relationships had any effect at all?
Are you a zoomer?
Do you visualize the women dominating you in a particular art style or as real women? If the former, what art style is it, and if the latter, do they usually have a particular form of dress?
What media did you enjoy consuming as a child and early teenager?
Can you describe the environment you grew up in, primarily school?
What's your relationship with religion?



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