The Internet Religion
#1
It was just brought to my attention that the much beloved children's entertainer InfraHaz has returned to twitter recently. I saw a couple of his posts and found them interesting.

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He seems to have slid into religious language and authority as comfortably as Kanye West, the /pol/ wigger right, red scare, and countless others. He also does not appear to practice any organised religion, be well versed in the practice or tradition of any particular religion. In short, he's not of this. He does not belong to a religion, is not a conventionally religious man, but this religious language seems to grow more present and prominent all the time. Why is that?

I've seen this happen to more internet talking heads than I can remember and feel like I'm overdue to try to put some order to this phenomena in my own thoughts. If anybody else has input on the subject I would be glad to read it.
#2
It's the Ordeal of Civility for 90IQ brown people. Trying to arrive upon a set of sufficiently nondescript yet "BASED" values that, if loudly enough espoused, will quell the doubts an insecure second-generation Chinese / Paki / Levantine immigrant has about "fitting in" to their host country's culture. Infrared is funny because it combines this soul-searching with:

1) The third-worldist communist LARP favored by the brown and insecure throughout the twentieth century
2) Self-help masculinity grifting
3) Warhammer-Americana / Saloese Polandball Historiography

to create a hilariously incogent set of claims that only slightly makes emotional sense to the target audience, and just looks ridiculous on its face to everyone else.
#3
(01-17-2023, 04:33 AM)Chud Wrote: It's the Ordeal of Civility for 90IQ brown people.

My thinking now is on who this show is for. The phenomena seems very spectator-politics. And who watches that? All the jokes aside I don't actually know. Is the Fuentes audience mostly actually composed of brown teenagers who really are just stupid? In my mind the internet still leans smart and white. But I'm old.

Otherwise of course I agree with the reading so far. Thank you for your input.
#4
(01-17-2023, 03:54 AM)anthony Wrote:
I've seen this happen to more internet talking heads than I can remember
I’m proceeding under the assumption that all the different “Internet Talking Heads” are of different ideologies.

Could this be related to Objective Morality vs Nietzschean Amorality?
They try to evaluate their own beliefs to find a foundation for it and eventually conclude that “Zarathustra is Godless” which necessitates a need for a belief in objective morality. God being the Foundation or “final plug” to fill in the holes of their ideology. This leads them to adopt more religious language as a side effect. 

Being as liberalism is descended from Christianity, a secularization of it with only its necessary social cohesion components, a return to God for a stronger belief foundation to escape Nietzschean Amorality isn’t unthinkable. All mass forms of political ideology are based off liberalism(including communism) so when the fear of the “Godless Zarathustra” creeps upon them they(all species of liberalism) can’t help but yelp Gods name collectively.
#5
Religion in itself is not important in contemporary leftist political discussion and is mostly brought up as vulgar appeal to mass morality. Notice how atheism is seldom emphasized by modern leftist thought, usually put as an afterthought it-goes-without-saying disgust at religious chudery. In that way, a vague metaphysical appeal to morality and community is much more appropriate for its current message, so that religion is merely a secretary of the therapeutic wing of The Party. Although, at the same time, religion is intrinsically more right wing than leftism, so a vulgar religious affectation is a signal of partial discontent at it. That's the meaning of religion in red scare podcast: a signal of discontent at some aspects of the modern left, like something that Joe Biden could use.

Haz show exists because there is a significant component of teenagers who are disgusted by trannies et al and won't take the logical step. And he says you can just be a Based Communist and watch his Debates for a daily ration of Based. A non-descript ideological massage. In #BasedWorld leftists zoomers would have to follow Strasserite twitch streamers to have their daily ration of soy...
#6
(01-17-2023, 04:55 AM)anthony Wrote:
(01-17-2023, 04:33 AM)Chud Wrote: It's the Ordeal of Civility for 90IQ brown people.

My thinking now is on who this show is for. The phenomena seems very spectator-politics. And who watches that? All the jokes aside I don't actually know. Is the Fuentes audience mostly actually composed of brown teenagers who really are just stupid? In my mind the internet still leans smart and white. But I'm old.

Otherwise of course I agree with the reading so far. Thank you for your input.

I think the internet has been negrofied ever since "cringe culture" became a tangible thing (so circa 2015). Cringe culture was a natural reaction from decently intelligent young men online to third worlders, women and dysgenics having access to the internet and ruining everything.  A lot of the "post-irony" humor that you see CCAN faggots like & share on twitter now can be traced back to making fun of the way swarthoids carried themselves online. (See "21st Century Gen Z Humor" on Youtube. Under the layers of irony and absurdity is fundamentally pointing out the fact that brown people and retards overedit everything rendering it unfunny. This, of course, is lost on most people and resumes the cycle of normgroid oversaturation leading to "post-irony" etc.)

I could be giving too much credit to cringe culture however as its lack of explicit racism allowed normalfags to blend in leading eventually to normie sadism, but I think it was still caused by niggers on the internet.
#7
(01-17-2023, 08:44 AM)Ghostfrog Wrote: I think the internet has been negrofied ever since "cringe culture" became a tangible thing (so circa 2015). Cringe culture was a natural reaction from decently intelligent young men online to third worlders, women and dysgenics having access to the internet and ruining everything.  A lot of the "post-irony" humor that you see CCAN faggots like & share on twitter now can be traced back to making fun of the way swarthoids carried themselves online.

Take your meds. "Cringe Culture" was a goon-groid sidehug alliance; its primary purpose was to poke fun at Sensitive Young White Men for having the nerve to foster asocial passions and take things seriously. "21st Century Humor" is just the logical end-product of thinking black people are cool and funny.
#8
It can be taken both ways. Cringe culture was an aversion of women and blacks but in its own self-awareness and aloofness it ossified and mocked ANYONE for taking themselves seriously. Anyone who watched commentary channels in 2016 and didn't turn into a leftist/norwood out of penance understood.
#9
From my perspective, cringe is simply anti-sincerity. As well as crabs in a bucket. EX. some types will look at an excellent physique and mouth the phrase.
#10
Just another way of anti-intellectual longhouse populist cucking. Same as getting bricked up over capitalism, technology, “pedophilia”, etc.
#11
(01-17-2023, 06:11 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-17-2023, 03:54 AM)anthony Wrote:
I've seen this happen to more internet talking heads than I can remember
I’m proceeding under the assumption that all the different “Internet Talking Heads” are of different ideologies.

Could this be related to Objective Morality vs Nietzschean Amorality?
They try to evaluate their own beliefs to find a foundation for it and eventually conclude that “Zarathustra is Godless” which necessitates a need for a belief in objective morality. God being the Foundation or “final plug” to fill in the holes of their ideology. This leads them to adopt more religious language as a side effect. 

Being as liberalism is descended from Christianity, a secularization of it with only its necessary social cohesion components, a return to God for a stronger belief foundation to escape Nietzschean Amorality isn’t unthinkable. All mass forms of political ideology are based off liberalism(including communism) so when the fear of the “Godless Zarathustra” creeps upon them they(all species of liberalism) can’t help but yelp Gods name collectively.
“Do you believe in god?”
“I do”
“But why” 
“Because I do” 
And after getting no satisfying response through ration inquiry he instead used the language of the soul and directly communicated with their heart.
“Why do you believe in god”
“Because I must, because I fear the godless Zarathustra, I fear that devil which has taken possession over him which he calls the overman.”

The communist is self aware, he knows that he would be purged in the Aktion T4 and thus acts accordingly to his interests for he is untermensch. But what of the average man, of rather the common bugman, the last man? What he fears in the depths of his heart is the spirit of the overman. To produce the overman new harsher conditions will be set in place and the comfy mediocracy on which he has grown indolent and fat will cease to exist. The spirit of the overman will hang over civilization long before it may produce the overman, and this is their deepest fear. For like the untermensch who knows his priority’s so does the bugman. For what is the spirit of the overman but meritocracy. Meritocracy, only the gifted individuals will arise, the genius will be unrestrained. It is a system for those filled with vitality who seek ever higher heights. 

Ergo modern belief in god appropriated by the bugmen is but a abnegation of Meritocracy.
#12
Did you write that dialogue? It's great.
#13
Excellent post Guest. Thank you for your contribution.
#14
More of an internet sociology post but l'l leave it in this thread nevertheless-while what guest wrote is true, hazposts here are imo more related to the incorporation of god into the Andrew Tate/Hamza Ahmed package of le masculine self-improvement for brown and off-white european adolescents and young adults(
https://youtu.be/DipbOX2Ern8) that occupies increasingly large parts of the internet, and we can see this turn of his in recent tweets:
https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1615...OM1uwsAAAA

This is very unique phenonomenon that is distinct from both landsharkian/solbrahian, frogtwitter derived twitter self-improvement subculture and the broader TechLead type normie soycoder one. I dont like playing a racial anthropologist but its pretty clear who is its main consumer demopgraphic-people coming from r-selected cultures and civilizations where sexual relations were always highly transactional, conducted within close-knit communities and reproductive succses was enjoyed by high-status, aggresive but often ugly and not particularly intelligent males. Frequent theme in descriptions of first cultural exchanges between europeans and orientals is the latters surprise at the importance early modern whites put on romantic love in deciding marriage-in India the institution of arranged marriage exists to this day.

So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy. In general abrahamic religions and collectivist ideologies tend to draft their followers from ugly men who believe they were robbed of their right to have sex-Islam most of all, for example in Surah 9:49 in Quran God promises light-haired daughters of Romans as spoils of war for Muslim victors.


More material examplifying this subculture:
https://youtu.be/PPzmDgMzHT8
https://youtu.be/P3i19APsYNs
https://youtu.be/f4KO_KYMdLA
#15
(01-21-2023, 04:41 PM)Tiferhil Wrote: More of an internet sociology post but l'l leave it in this thread nevertheless-while what guest wrote is true, hazposts here are imo more related to the incorporation of god into the Andrew Tate/Hamza Ahmed package of le masculine self-improvement for brown and off-white european adolescents and young adults(
https://youtu.be/DipbOX2Ern8) that occupies increasingly large parts of the internet, and we can see this turn of his in recent tweets:
https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1615...OM1uwsAAAA

This is very unique phenonomenon that is distinct from both landsharkian/solbrahian, frogtwitter derived twitter self-improvement subculture and the broader TechLead type normie soycoder one. I dont like playing a racial anthropologist but its pretty clear who is its main consumer demopgraphic-people coming from r-selected cultures and civilizations where sexual relations were always highly transactional, conducted within close-knit communities and reproductive succses was enjoyed by high-status, aggresive but often ugly and not particularly intelligent males. Frequent theme in descriptions of first cultural exchanges between europeans and orientals is the latters surprise at the importance early modern whites put on romantic love in deciding marriage-in India the institution of arranged marriage exists to this day.

So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy. In general abrahamic religions and collectivist ideologies tend to draft their followers from ugly men who believe they were robbed of their right to have sex-Islam most of all, for example in Surah 9:49 in Quran God promises light-haired daughters of Romans as spoils of war for Muslim victors.


More material examplifying this subculture:
https://youtu.be/PPzmDgMzHT8
https://youtu.be/P3i19APsYNs
https://youtu.be/f4KO_KYMdLA

I think this is a generally accurate view of the type, but why does God fall in now? And why do Red Scare also invoke general internet religion? Are these different phenomena?

Edit: Okay I looked at the Haz tweet, he's definitely trying to be Tate. Again, why does God play into that? Still odd to me.
#16
(01-21-2023, 04:41 PM)Tiferhil Wrote: More of an internet sociology post but l'l leave it in this thread nevertheless-while what guest wrote is true, hazposts here are imo more related to the incorporation of god into the Andrew Tate/Hamza Ahmed package of le masculine self-improvement for brown and off-white european adolescents and young adults(
https://youtu.be/DipbOX2Ern8) that occupies increasingly large parts of the internet, and we can see this turn of his in recent tweets:
https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1615...OM1uwsAAAA

This is very unique phenonomenon that is distinct from both landsharkian/solbrahian, frogtwitter derived twitter self-improvement subculture and the broader TechLead type normie soycoder one. I dont like playing a racial anthropologist but its pretty clear who is its main consumer demopgraphic-people coming from r-selected cultures and civilizations where sexual relations were always highly transactional, conducted within close-knit communities and reproductive succses was enjoyed by high-status, aggresive but often ugly and not particularly intelligent males. Frequent theme in descriptions of first cultural exchanges between europeans and orientals is the latters surprise at the importance early modern whites put on romantic love in deciding marriage-in India the institution of arranged marriage exists to this day.

So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy. In general abrahamic religions and collectivist ideologies tend to draft their followers from ugly men who believe they were robbed of their right to have sex-Islam most of all, for example in Surah 9:49 in Quran God promises light-haired daughters of Romans as spoils of war for Muslim victors.


More material examplifying this subculture:
https://youtu.be/PPzmDgMzHT8
https://youtu.be/P3i19APsYNs
https://youtu.be/f4KO_KYMdLA
How does this square with the fact that most incels are white? (And not Sensitive Young Men Incel 2.0 types either).
#17
TechLead soy? I kill you nigger
#18
(01-21-2023, 05:57 PM)Moyai Wrote: How does this square with the fact that most incels are white? (And not Sensitive Young Men Incel 2.0 types either).

The incel community is majority-white because it draws from majority-white countries and social strata; but ethnic minorities, especially arabs and subcons, are still overrepresented.



(01-21-2023, 04:41 PM)Tiferhil Wrote: This is very unique phenonomenon that is distinct from both landsharkian/solbrahian, frogtwitter derived twitter self-improvement subculture and the broader TechLead type normie soycoder one. I dont like playing a racial anthropologist but its pretty clear who is its main consumer demopgraphic-people coming from r-selected cultures and civilizations where sexual relations were always highly transactional, conducted within close-knit communities and reproductive succses was enjoyed by high-status, aggresive but often ugly and not particularly intelligent males. Frequent theme in descriptions of first cultural exchanges between europeans and orientals is the latters surprise at the importance early modern whites put on romantic love in deciding marriage-in India the institution of arranged marriage exists to this day.

So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy.

This is an interesting way of looking at it. I considered it from a more abstract, intellectual desire to "fit in" but it probably is just about not having sex
#19
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“Where are the arranged marriages at? The west be full of demons and sheeeit, it needs allha.”
#20
(01-21-2023, 06:43 PM)Guest Wrote: [Image: https://wojakparadise.net/wojak/51048/img]
“Where are the arranged marriages at? The west be full of demons and sheeeit, it needs allha.”
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