The Internet Religion
#21
Quote:So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy.
If they are offsprings of sexually aggressive men, why aren't they sexually aggressive themselves? It is they who should be mogging the normalfags.
And why wouldn't people brought up among the ideals of romantic love be troubled by the modern world and (rightfully) place blame on the degeneracy in the time when romance is dead and buried?
#22
(01-21-2023, 05:22 PM)anthony Wrote: I think this is a generally accurate view of the type, but why does God fall in now? And why do Red Scare also invoke general internet religion? Are these different phenomena?

Edit: Okay I looked at the Haz tweet, he's definitely trying to be Tate. Again, why does God play into that? Still odd to me.

to answer your question i think it's as simple as being a cheap countercultural signifier trickled down from a genuine reaction to 'reddit atheism' which took place nearly a decade ago now. the only two positions a normie can conceive of are "christianity is a scam invented to justify racism" and "the elite are frickin' demonic satanists bro!" any faction which lines up with the latter sentiment finds it natural to adopt some nominally christian rhetoric. i doubt there's anything deeper to it.
#23
(01-23-2023, 10:48 PM)parsifal Wrote: to answer your question i think it's as simple as being a cheap countercultural signifier trickled down from a genuine reaction to 'reddit atheism' which took place nearly a decade ago now. the only two positions a normie can conceive of are "christianity is a scam invented to justify racism" and "the elite are frickin' demonic satanists bro!" any faction which lines up with the latter sentiment finds it natural to adopt some nominally christian rhetoric. i doubt there's anything deeper to it.

That about figures. These people are rolling together into some kind of new conservative synthesis, and it seems to be coming along fairly easy since there's so little conviction to any of these superficially strong and defined positions. Red Scare and 'Tate Grindset for Petersonians' fans probably share all of the same baseline beliefs.
#24
(01-21-2023, 06:24 PM)Chud Wrote:
(01-21-2023, 05:57 PM)Moyai Wrote: How does this square with the fact that most incels are white? (And not Sensitive Young Men Incel 2.0 types either).

The incel community is majority-white because it draws from majority-white countries and social strata; but ethnic minorities, especially arabs and subcons, are still overrepresented.



(01-21-2023, 04:41 PM)Tiferhil Wrote: This is very unique phenonomenon that is distinct from both landsharkian/solbrahian, frogtwitter derived twitter self-improvement subculture and the broader TechLead type normie soycoder one. I dont like playing a racial anthropologist but its pretty clear who is its main consumer demopgraphic-people coming from r-selected cultures and civilizations where sexual relations were always highly transactional, conducted within close-knit communities and reproductive succses was enjoyed by high-status, aggresive but often ugly and not particularly intelligent males. Frequent theme in descriptions of first cultural exchanges between europeans and orientals is the latters surprise at the importance early modern whites put on romantic love in deciding marriage-in India the institution of arranged marriage exists to this day.

So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy.

This is an interesting way of looking at it. I considered it from a more abstract, intellectual desire to "fit in" but it probably is just about not having sex

They are the same I think. An avarage person who havent left behind an influential work of art or made meaningful political change is linked with a community by reproducing and raising its children within it, otherwise one is simply a gastarbeiter.

(01-21-2023, 06:23 PM)BillyONare Wrote: TechLead soy? I kill you nigger

He is a nazi mysoginist iirc but an asian coder must be at least somewhat soy. I dont have it out for him in particular tough, he is just symbolic of normie youtube self-improvement

(01-22-2023, 08:24 PM)Guest Wrote:
Quote:So what happens when men bred this way try to find their partner in contemporary dating life? They are mogged to death by chads and white normies-and translate their sexual failure as symptom of western degeneracy, not their own inadequacy.
If they are offsprings of sexually aggressive men, why aren't they sexually aggressive themselves? It is they who should be mogging the normalfags.
And why wouldn't people brought up among the ideals of romantic love be troubled by the modern world and (rightfully) place blame on the degeneracy in the time when romance is dead and buried?

They are, or aspire to be, sexually aggresive in a PUA way, they just tend to be uglier becuase they come places which selected more heavily for status and are thus mogged by those who originate from cultures which put more value on romantic love(facial attractiveness). By 'mogging' I dont mean being physically stronger but more attractive-Alain Delon mogs Andrew Tate.

Im absolutely not blaming them for advocating their interests(Im not a chad either) and some of the concerns they raise are universally valid-only pointing out that the reasons they have for turning to God would evaporate if they could effortlessly have sex, and thus their faith is quite shallow.

(01-23-2023, 11:10 PM)anthony Wrote:
(01-23-2023, 10:48 PM)parsifal Wrote: to answer your question i think it's as simple as being a cheap countercultural signifier trickled down from a genuine reaction to 'reddit atheism' which took place nearly a decade ago now. the only two positions a normie can conceive of are "christianity is a scam invented to justify racism" and "the elite are frickin' demonic satanists bro!" any faction which lines up with the latter sentiment finds it natural to adopt some nominally christian rhetoric. i doubt there's anything deeper to it.

That about figures. These people are rolling together into some kind of new conservative synthesis, and it seems to be coming along fairly easy since there's so little conviction to any of these superficially strong and defined positions. Red Scare and 'Tate Grindset for Petersonians' fans probably share all of the same baseline beliefs.

I dont quite recall Red Scare being seriously into christianity, can you link the tweets? As for your first post, I think it all just boils down to seeking easy explanation for things they dont like that doesnt have to reconcile itself with concrete political changes of recent history or biological decline of western nations, and without any geniuine religious feeling since 19th century and decline of church authority anyone can project their personal preferences onto Heavens.
#25
(01-24-2023, 05:01 PM)Tiferhil Wrote: I dont quite recall Red Scare being seriously into christianity, can you link the tweets? As for your first post, I think it all just boils down to seeking easy explanation for things they dont like that doesnt have to reconcile itself with concrete political changes of recent history or biological decline of western nations, and without any geniuine religious feeling since 19th century and decline of church authority anyone can project their personal preferences onto Heavens.

I don't track these people so I can't give you anything specific. For all I know it's passed now even. I just had the impression things were moving that way. What prompted this thread was the Haz stuff being shown to me by someone. I really am not at all in the loop with these people. Sorry if that's rather unhelpful. Hopefully someone else can help us here.
#26
BAP Tweet

BAP also have same feeling. He’s tweet was on 24th. I think many others also get same feelings as of recently. Anthony just more perceptive it seems.
#27
BAP is hardly a more reliable commentor on religion than any of the other people in question.
#28
What other people? I was just using him as independent source as he’s talking about same thing the thread topic is about. Multiple individuals coming to a similar conclusion gives that assertion more ground. Unless you postulate that this specific thread influence his tweets and thus is not valid as a independent source.
#29
He is perennially making the exact same "observation" no matter if it's relevant or not.
#30
I don’t follow him that closely so I can neither confirm this nor deny It, but burden of proof is on you.


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