The Path to Ultimate Power: How Do We Win?
#61
(10-27-2022, 06:01 PM)holebear Wrote: Aarvoll banned me out of his Discord server after I called him a nigger also he's fatherless so everything he says is colored by that.
for what it's worth i more or less disagreed with everything else he said in the video, and i haven't seen any of his other content (i just found out about him). his alternative is some sort of school to teach kids plato and aristotle, and he describes ZOG's "endgame" as WEF depopulation agenda stuff; not totally off the mark but not a rock-solid  assessment either. i only brought up the video at all because i really liked the chess game analogy as a way of conveying something i'd already been thinking about for a long time.

out of curiosity, why did you call him a nigger? i've yet to form an impression of the man either way.
#62
(10-27-2022, 08:54 PM)parsifal Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:01 PM)holebear Wrote: Aarvoll banned me out of his Discord server after I called him a nigger also he's fatherless so everything he says is colored by that.
for what it's worth i more or less disagreed with everything else he said in the video, and i haven't seen any of his other content (i just found out about him). his alternative is some sort of school to teach kids plato and aristotle, and he describes ZOG's "endgame" as WEF depopulation agenda stuff; not totally off the mark but not a rock-solid  assessment either. i only brought up the video at all because i really liked the chess game analogy as a way of conveying something i'd already been thinking about for a long time.

out of curiosity, why did you call him a nigger? i've yet to form an impression of the man either way.

I called him a nigger because his discord was laughable. I have a strongly negative opinion of 'reactionary theory types' (and really philosophy in general) and I view all of it as this parasitism. People there would just go on about dualism monism 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1  1  1 like this is useful or good, besides the Evola/Guenon stuff and waxing poetic about spiritual nobility and monads and all this suffocating posturing which made me want to strangle everyone there.
I didn't actually call him it intentionally, I just called someone who i thought was being stupid as nigger and it turned out to be him lol
#63
(10-27-2022, 09:53 PM)holebear Wrote: I called him a nigger because his discord was laughable. I have a strongly negative opinion of 'reactionary theory types' (and really philosophy in general) and I view all of it as this parasitism. People there would just go on about dualism monism 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1  1  1 like this is useful or good, besides the Evola/Guenon stuff and waxing poetic about spiritual nobility and monads and all this suffocating posturing which made me want to strangle everyone there.
I didn't actually call him it intentionally, I just called someone who i thought was being stupid as nigger and it turned out to be him lol
some people, like me, came to the right through intellectual means. i'm never going to suddenly stop trying to understand the world i live in, it's part of my nature. if you don't like those tendencies, why did you join such a discord in the first place? i don't find this convincing and i'm going to continue being indifferent towards aarvoll.
#64
(10-27-2022, 10:06 PM)parsifal Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 09:53 PM)holebear Wrote: I called him a nigger because his discord was laughable. I have a strongly negative opinion of 'reactionary theory types' (and really philosophy in general) and I view all of it as this parasitism. People there would just go on about dualism monism 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1  1  1 like this is useful or good, besides the Evola/Guenon stuff and waxing poetic about spiritual nobility and monads and all this suffocating posturing which made me want to strangle everyone there.
I didn't actually call him it intentionally, I just called someone who i thought was being stupid as nigger and it turned out to be him lol
some people, like me, came to the right through intellectual means. i'm never going to suddenly stop trying to understand the world i live in, it's part of my nature. if you don't like those tendencies, why did you join such a discord in the first place? i don't find this convincing and i'm going to continue being indifferent towards aarvoll.
I don't recall the reason but a friend of mine invited me there and promised me it was full of smart people who I would enjoy; but it didn't end up panning out. I also don't know if right wing theory is in any way a real way of understanding the world; is there any formal difference between Freud or Marx with 'explanatory models' and a lot of what these people do: like projecting what essentially amounts to bitcoin trade technical analysis dressed up with greek or sanskrit wording, onto the past to try to tie things into a grand narrative of their own imagining--

It feels like I'm looking at Haitian children eating mud cookies who tell me they like it and I guess I can't really say anything, but you know. Maybe there's value, I just really really haven't seen it

and BTW this isn't meant to be an insult or attack on you, I don't think like you're a pseud or anything; just that... is this really the best way of going about things
#65
I've been casually watching Aarvoll's videos for years. I'm not gonna join any type of camp but I tend to appreciate whatever he has to say. He comes across as a solid, no-bullshit type of white man, is well schooled in philosophy and has no interest in dumb popularity games that most people with influence tend to engage in. I hardly think he's worthy of scorn.
#66
(10-27-2022, 09:53 PM)holebear Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 08:54 PM)parsifal Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:01 PM)holebear Wrote: Aarvoll banned me out of his Discord server after I called him a nigger also he's fatherless so everything he says is colored by that.
for what it's worth i more or less disagreed with everything else he said in the video, and i haven't seen any of his other content (i just found out about him). his alternative is some sort of school to teach kids plato and aristotle, and he describes ZOG's "endgame" as WEF depopulation agenda stuff; not totally off the mark but not a rock-solid  assessment either. i only brought up the video at all because i really liked the chess game analogy as a way of conveying something i'd already been thinking about for a long time.

out of curiosity, why did you call him a nigger? i've yet to form an impression of the man either way.

I called him a nigger because his discord was laughable. I have a strongly negative opinion of 'reactionary theory types' (and really philosophy in general) and I view all of it as this parasitism. People there would just go on about dualism monism 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1  1  1 like this is useful or good, besides the Evola/Guenon stuff and waxing poetic about spiritual nobility and monads and all this suffocating posturing which made me want to strangle everyone there.
I didn't actually call him it intentionally, I just called someone who i thought was being stupid as nigger and it turned out to be him lol

anon discovers he wasn't made for the scholarly life...wow...
it's okay if you don't like the more abstract intellectual parts of life. just don't demean the entire field.
#67
Hello all,

After reading through this thread, and a number of other similar threads on the DR over the years, I have realized that a problem is that there is not a clear, concise listing of our options. So, in order to remedy this, I have written up a document which lists out all of the proposed "Paths to Power" which I have heard over the years. I have a general description for each, along with spaces to put in every possible argument for or against each path. It would be much appreciated if any of you could perhaps offer whatever new insight or point you have for or against any idea written here, so that I can add it into the document. Me personally, I think that the "Prepare for the Great Man" plan is the best one, but I am of course open to suggestions.

The document (paths listed in no particular order):

Quote:(EC) Elite Capture/Conversion
Description: We develop, refine, and spread our ideas, and tailor them towards dissatisfied elites, so that they will break off from the main elite consensus and become patrons of our cause.
Examples (historical & modern): The French Revolution, The Russian Revolution
Arguments for:
  • Elites already hold power
Arguments against:
Proponents:
  • Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug)
Opponents:

(EI) Elite Infiltration
Description: We join various institutions of power (e.g. academia, the military, political parties, intelligence agencies etc.) and slowly work our way up the ranks until we control them.
Examples (historical & modern): American leftists
Arguments for:
  • Use the power, prestige, and influence of existing institutions
Arguments against:
  • Institutions will break you before you can gain power
  • Institutions can sniff out and expel true dissidents with ease
  • Institutions are stronger than you
  • There isn’t enough time for this sort of “long march through the institutions”
Proponents:
Opponents:

(CW) Civil War
Description: We build up resources, connections, and equipment in preparation for a coming open shooting civil war with the System (presumably of a right & rural vs. left & urban nature).
Examples (historical & modern): The Russian Civil War
Arguments for:
  • Large segments of the military may defect
  • Right-wing populations own many guns, control farmland and other resources
Arguments against:
  • The political center is holding firm; no large and truly dissident political movement exists
  • Big target for infiltration by federal agents
  • Civil war destroys the nation and, generally, most of the best of the population
Proponents:
Opponents:
  • Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug)
  • Niccolo Soldo

(ADA) Accelerationist Direct Action
Description: We form small, decentralized cells and commit various t*rr*r*st acts against the System and its infrastructure in order to increase chaos, disorder, and pain in order to accelerate collapse and/or push the Masses towards Revolution.
Examples (historical & modern): The Irish Republican Army, Atomwaffen Division
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
  • Big target for infiltration by federal agents
Proponents:
  • James Mason
Opponents:

(CN) Cosa Nostra/Underworld Infiltration
Description: We infiltrate the criminal underworld and use criminal activities and tactics to acquire power, connections, and funds which we can then use towards political ends.
Examples (historical & modern): Early Bolsheviks, Mexican cartels, Mossad & Epstein
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
  • Corrupts the souls of those involved in it.
Proponents:
  • Bronze Age Pervert
Opponents:

(PM) Popular Movement
Description: We start some sort of publicly organized political party or movement and use rallies, propaganda, marches, rousing speeches, etc. to convince enough of the people to vote for and/or support us, and then begin pushing legislation.
Examples (historical & modern): NSDAP, National Justice Party, America First, Patriot Front, MAGA
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
  • Big target for infiltration by federal agents
  • The masses will believe the media before us
  • Populism is a lie and the masses are not needed for political success
  • We have to play by ZOG’s rules within ZOG’s System
  • Policy changes and legislation are not real victory; the only possible victory in such an existential Struggle is a Total Victory
Proponents:
  • Mike Peinovitch
  • Nick Fuentes
  • Donald Trump
Opponents:
  • Neema Parvini (Academic Agent)
  • Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug)
  • Bronze Age Pervert

(NEF) New Elite Formation
Description: We form a new elite, with our own institutions, connections, figures, ideas, schools of thought, etc., and then draw high-quality people into this elite, and then outcompete the old elite out of their positions of power by virtue of our own worthiness and closer affection to Truth.
Examples (historical & modern): Early Christians in Rome, Hezbollah in Lebanon,
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
  • Too high of a cost in time, money, and energy to simply build new institutions from the ground up.
Proponents:
  • Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug)
Opponents:

(RF) Retreat & Fortification

Description: We retreat from modern political life and move into small, heavily fortified, entirely self-reliant and self-sustaining autarkic planned communities in the countryside, where we no longer have to rely on the System and can build the seeds of a new future outside of it.
Examples (historical & modern): Afrikaners in modern South Africa
Arguments for:
  • Independence from the System
  • The ability to build up our own power and institutions in peace and isolation
Arguments against:
  • ZOG will not let us live in peace, will hunt us down (cf. Ruby Ridge, Waco)
Proponents:
Opponents:

(EC) Esoteric Cult
Description: We form an esoteric cult that we use to transmit our ideas, which then controls an exoteric public new religious movement which we can use to gain money, power, and followers.
Examples (historical & modern): Jews, Early Christians, Scientology
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
Proponents:
Opponents:

(PGM) Prepare for the Great Man
Description: We build up Mannerbunds, small cells of young, like-minded men whom we can trust with our lives, and secretly and slowly rank up in society and various institutions, building up social, financial, and political capital in anticipation of the coming of America’s Great Man (cf. Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, etc.)
Examples (historical & modern): The Gracci Brothers, The Friekorps
Arguments for:
  • Invisible to the Eye of Sauron
Arguments against:
  • Is more or less a “sit and wait” approach; maybe he never comes!
Proponents:
  • Bronze Age Pervert
Opponents:
#68
(11-10-2022, 01:50 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: (EC) Elite Capture/Conversion
Description: We develop, refine, and spread our ideas, and tailor them towards dissatisfied elites, so that they will break off from the main elite consensus and become patrons of our cause.
Examples (historical & modern): The French Revolution, The Russian Revolution
The Bolsheviks were not anywhere near the favored group of elites. They were the favored group of a foreign power which wanted to destabilize Russia. This did not end up well for Russians.

Quote:(EI) Elite Infiltration
Description: We join various institutions of power (e.g. academia, the military, political parties, intelligence agencies etc.) and slowly work our way up the ranks until we control them.
Examples (historical & modern): American leftists
One's ideals inevitably end up aligning with those of their paycheck. Colonels have mortgages to pay and aren't going to jeopardize their shot at making general, let alone sign their own pink slip.

Quote:(CW) Civil War
Description: We build up resources, connections, and equipment in preparation for a coming open shooting civil war with the System (presumably of a right & rural vs. left & urban nature).
Examples (historical & modern): The Russian Civil War
Have you been to Walmart recently? Bubba is a 300 pound diabetic and his mobility scooter can't recharge in a trench.

More importantly: he's possibly sympathetic to extremism because he feels like he's been neglected and written off by the system. Because he has been. Taking over the local post office is only going to keep him from getting his disability check. And no, no one's waging a guerilla war in the Great Plains to "starve the cities" (AKA - throwing away their paycheck).

Quote:(ADA) Accelerationist Direct Action
Description: We form small, decentralized cells and commit various t*rr*r*st acts against the System and its infrastructure in order to increase chaos, disorder, and pain in order to accelerate collapse and/or push the Masses towards Revolution.
Examples (historical & modern): The Irish Republican Army, Atomwaffen Division
Anyone who sincerely believes this to be even a remote option is on a direct course to prison and will take you with him if it means a reduction of sentence. If you get in early enough, however, you might be able to escape prison entirely and collect a nice salary as a full-time Federal informant.

Quote:(CN) Cosa Nostra/Underworld Infiltration
Description: We infiltrate the criminal underworld and use criminal activities and tactics to acquire power, connections, and funds which we can then use towards political ends.
Examples (historical & modern): Early Bolsheviks, Mexican cartels, Mossad & Epstein
Criminals are criminals for a reason. They'll kill their closest friend if it means a payday.

The Tiflis Bank Robbery was amongst the stupidest things Lenin ever did and famously managed to split the RSDLP into two irreconcilable factions while elevating the worst elements of each. It was Kronstadt before Kronstadt. 

Quote:(PM) Popular Movement
Description: We start some sort of publicly organized political party or movement and use rallies, propaganda, marches, rousing speeches, etc. to convince enough of the people to vote for and/or support us, and then begin pushing legislation.
Examples (historical & modern): NSDAP, National Justice Party, America First, Patriot Front, MAGA
The NSDAP is the very definition of ontological evil in Americanized culture. Anything that even vaguely resembles Fascism is complete and total anathema to anyone who doesn't have a chip in their shoulder against society as a whole (i.e. anyone successful).

It's success, anyways, was due to a gross miscalculation of it's usefulness to ruling elites at the time. As there exists no actual threat to elite power on the left, they have no need to allow a strong reactionary force to grow in the first place. In the 21st century Hitler gets a life sentence after the Beer Hall Pustch (assuming the don't execute him for the murder of several police officers) and is quickly forgotten.

Quote:(NEF) New Elite Formation
Description: We form a new elite, with our own institutions, connections, figures, ideas, schools of thought, etc., and then draw high-quality people into this elite, and then outcompete the old elite out of their positions of power by virtue of our own worthiness and closer affection to Truth.
Examples (historical & modern): Early Christians in Rome, Hezbollah in Lebanon,
Political power has nothing to do with "truth" and high-quality people aren't going to jump off the career ladder as long as they continue to be able to achieve a very high quality standard of living by standing by traditional institutions.

Quote:(RF) Retreat & Fortification
Description: We retreat from modern political life and move into small, heavily fortified, entirely self-reliant and self-sustaining autarkic planned communities in the countryside, where we no longer have to rely on the System and can build the seeds of a new future outside of it.
Examples (historical & modern): Afrikaners in modern South Africa
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Good luck!

Quote:(EC) Esoteric Cult
Description: We form an esoteric cult that we use to transmit our ideas, which then controls an exoteric public new religious movement which we can use to gain money, power, and followers.
Examples (historical & modern): Jews, Early Christians, Scientology
The only figures of note to associate with Scientology are closeted homosexual actors 20 years past their prime. World-spanning, all-powerful neo-religious movements are the stuff of science fiction and will always remain so. Christianity took 300 years to become powerful and specifically lacked a cohesive hierarchy (or anything approaching unity, at all) before it's adoption as the Roman state religion.

Quote:(PGM) Prepare for the Great Man
Description: We build up Mannerbunds, small cells of young, like-minded men whom we can trust with our lives, and secretly and slowly rank up in society and various institutions, building up social, financial, and political capital in anticipation of the coming of America’s Great Man (cf. Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, etc.)
Examples (historical & modern): The Gracci Brothers, The Friekorps
Success in meritocratic and hierarchical structures necessarily selects for exactly the opposite of someone you would trust with your life. Ask the SA how trustworthy Hitler was.



The simple fact of the matter is that self-interests drives men. None of these options are remotely feasible because the United States enjoys an incredibly high standard of living and anything that deliberately seeks to bring instability into the equation is a complete non-starter for anyone with a stake in the status quo. You might not feel like you have such a stake, but neither did the Baby Boomers at your age.

This doesn't mean things are hopeless - far from it! Like all ruling classes, the current Trans-Atlantic set are arrogant. They're going to do something very stupid eventually. It's important to remember that the premier member of Moldbug's lauded Technocratic Elite has managed to cost his company 70% of it's valuation in the last year trying to sell an MMO with meetings instead of quests that gives a significant portion of it's users motion sickness. The other great ideas of our time include a taxi company that runs at an enormous loss in the hope that eventually someone will design a self-driving car (not happening), a phone designed to have problems communicating with other platforms mainly used by women to take pictures of themselves, and poorly engineered cars that need to be plugged in every few hours.

Things could change very quickly if the United States were to lose a war in the Persian Gulf or Taiwan Strait in a dramatic fashion (something which is highly likely given the recent advances in missile technology - we could very well lose an entire fleet in days). Even a small nuclear exchange by non-aligned minor powers somewhere in the world could drastically tip the international political calculus. There have been several enormously expanded markets in the last decade which could turn out to be catastrophic bubbles. These events would have a large effect on the world specifically because they are impossible to accurately predict.


Calico's advice: find a nice girl, have some kids, and never let yourself take the internet seriously. Change will inevitably occur, but it's impossible to say whether it'll be in your lifetime.
#69
(11-10-2022, 04:11 PM)calico Wrote: Calico's advice: find a nice girl, have some kids, and never let yourself take the internet seriously. Change will inevitably occur, but it's impossible to say whether it'll be in your lifetime.

Sensible advice on my niche sonnenrad forum?

> find a nice girl

Wait, never mind, it's asking the impossible like everything else.

Seriously though, How meet nice girl?
#70
(11-11-2022, 02:46 AM)imperator Wrote: Seriously though, How meet nice girl?

First, ignore everything you've ever read on the internet about "how to get a girl." You might get a girl, but she's going to happen to be whatever type ends up falling for whatever advice you've internalized. Some women do fall for PUA type guys: they do "love assholes" - but you're going to end up with specifically the type of girl who would fall for PUA advice and be attracted to assholes. You don't want to date these women.

If you meet women on dating apps you're going to meet the type of women who find boyfriends on dating apps, do you really want this?

Go and meet women through friends. Don't have any who can introduce you to women? That's the actual problem you have to fix: not eating raw eggs or getting the last 10 lbs. on your bench. You should have a decent group of friends before you set off to get a girlfriend.

When you meet her don't be a dick. Women actually don't like assholes, they happen to like some traits men they'd call assholes happen to have. Most importantly: you've never heard of Ernest Rohm and have no idea who's running for Senate this year. Good luck; and remember: confidence really is the key.
#71
(11-11-2022, 04:47 AM)calico Wrote:
(11-11-2022, 02:46 AM)imperator Wrote: Seriously though, How meet nice girl?

First, ignore everything you've ever read on the internet about "how to get a girl." You might get a girl, but she's going to happen to be whatever type ends up falling for whatever advice you've internalized. Some women do fall for PUA type guys: they do "love assholes" - but you're going to end up with specifically the type of girl who would fall for PUA advice and be attracted to assholes. You don't want to date these women.

If you meet women on dating apps you're going to meet the type of women who find boyfriends on dating apps, do you really want this?

Go and meet women through friends. Don't have any who can introduce you to women? That's the actual problem you have to fix: not eating raw eggs or getting the last 10 lbs. on your bench. You should have a decent group of friends before you set off to get a girlfriend.

When you meet her don't be a dick. Women actually don't like assholes, they happen to like some traits men they'd call assholes happen to have. Most importantly: you've never heard of Ernest Rohm and have no idea who's running for Senate this year. Good luck; and remember: confidence really is the key.

If I was a woman I would indeed find it a bit uncouth to know a man I was fancying had intimate knowledge about an obscure homosexual. That would be pretty sus.

For real though, this is the most sound advice on how to get a woman I have found on the internet, although it could be made shorter: be normal.
You know that 4chan screencap that goes along the lines of "normal guys don't have to 'self-improve' to get a woman, it just naturally happened"? It's true.
You're not getting a woman because in some way or another — and this is the honest truth — you're a fucking weirdo. And this is the same for women looking for guys. I have a lady friend who has the same types of traits that many anons have, i.e generally being an 'outcast', and has the same bad luck and same bad habits as anons do. It's not specific to either sex.
JUST. BE. NORMAL.
Have a good group of friends that aren't tied to one hobby (I don't imagine you'd find a woman playing WH40k tabletop, although I imagine the women who do pass the filter would be very high value in some ways), who regularly socialise with other people. EVENTUALLY you'll find a girl.
JUST. BE. NORMAL.
Wanna know how I found my girlfriend? I just played vidya. I played vidya and then I met her and guess what? Now we play vidya together.
Mr. Augustus PFP, I know you're a very intelligent man and once you learn how to articulate your knowledge and intelligence in the proper way, you're going to impress many girls. It worked for me.
JUST. BE. NORMAL.

Of course I may be talking out of my arse since I'm above average in looks and I may just be living on easy mode.
BUT, my advice still probably stands. Wash your penis, clean you room, slay the proverbial dragon (your autism), and be normal.

Now enough of therapy.
We must discuss power.
#72
^pretty good, but please expand with actionable advice. It seems almost as hard to find a good group of friends that are not brutes or fagots as it is to get a girlfriend.
#73
(11-11-2022, 06:14 AM)Verl Wrote: JUST. BE. NORMAL.

No. I love Hitler.
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#74
(11-11-2022, 07:20 AM)BillyONare Wrote: ^pretty good, but please expand with actionable advice. It seems almost as hard to find a good group of friends that are not brutes or fagots as it is to get a girlfriend.

Birds of the same feather flock together.
You may need to look deep within yourself to find out why you are consistently grouping yourself up with low-quality types.
Alas, I have no advice on that part.
#75
People as high quality as me are one in a million. They are all e-celebs or cult leaders or shut-ins. You need better advice than “just be normal, wait, then you get what you deserve Wink
#76
Looking back at the texts from Hunter Biden and texts to Musk about this (((Sam Bankman-Fried))) always reminds me how retarded most of the elite actually are. The only reason they are where they are is due to connections.

You only have to kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.
#77
(11-11-2022, 07:28 AM)anthony Wrote:
(11-11-2022, 06:14 AM)Verl Wrote: JUST. BE. NORMAL.

No. I love Hitler.
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Don't "be normal" - be what God created you to be (B.E. Yourself - Be Entirely Yourself). Ease them into your power level, but don't hold back once y'all are solid. Whenever my wife and I are at dinner and I start talking about Hitler she starts smiling and giggling more, pours me more wine, gets very aroused and far more kissy - if they fall in love with you first, then any sort of weirdness afterwards will just be seen as another cute, unique, quirky trait that makes you even more of a unique prize of a man (unless they're a mindfucked libtard, but you shouldn't be dating those  anyways).
#78
(11-10-2022, 04:11 PM)calico Wrote: Calico's advice: find a nice girl, have some kids, and never let yourself take the internet seriously. Change will inevitably occur, but it's impossible to say whether it'll be in your lifetime.

the question of "how do we take power?" masks a more fundamental one: "how should i live my life?" of course the only people liable to be swayed by anything posted in this thread are people who frequent this forum, not billionaires or GOP politicians, and most of us are young men of varying life circumstances and goals. it would be silly to speak of a single best way for every amarnite to live, except in the broadest of generalities. of course you should find a suitable wife at some point, does anyone need to be told that?

however, the full question being asked is actually "how should i live my life in order to effect a change i would like to see in this world?" and from that perspective sitting and waiting (for something that you might not even live to see! what would the point even be then?) is an unacceptable answer. whatever the meaning of life may be, it sure isn't to do nothing. there are as many different life goals and hopes for the future to address as there are people reading this thread, but within the right i identify two distinct categories: (a) people who want material quality of life improvements for themselves and their (potential) progeny, and (b) people who yearn for something which might be called "higher life" (i use BAP's phrase for lack of a better term)

the former is a perfectly fine goal. it's what animates all but a vanishingly small portion of the right wing, it's what got trump into office and, because it is essentially a reaction against the malicious actions perpetrated by the ZOG-democrats, it's what provoked them into ousting him from office as well. the "path to power" for someone with this in mind is clear and straightforward and suffices to occupy a fulfilling life: build financial and social capital, and use that capital to advance your interests and the interests of millions of your countrymen. i hate to say it, but nick fuentes has exactly the right idea here, only botched in the execution.

initially i was under the impression that most posters here would fall into the latter category, after all this forum comprises a subgroup of a twitter sphere which takes its cues from bronze age mindset--a book whose stated purpose is an exhortation to this exact thing. i won't try to beat BAM at its own game here, but pursuing such a life categorically involves treading new ground and doing that which is explicitly forbidden. needless to say, this is utterly incompatible with life in the open-air prison camp that is ZOGworld. for one thing, if such activities ever come to light, one would surely become a pariah, if not a prisoner for life. as i've outlined in my previous post, anyone who wants to succeed in path (a) invests his life into the system, and stands far too much to lose flirting with path (b). here's what i see as the way forward: sever your roots and become an international nomad (BAP has spoken about this many times on caribbean rhythms), find like-minded fellows through the internet and form real-life associations, and in the meantime prepare your body and mind by building useful skills.
#79
(11-11-2022, 10:17 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote:
(11-11-2022, 07:28 AM)anthony Wrote:
(11-11-2022, 06:14 AM)Verl Wrote: JUST. BE. NORMAL.

No. I love Hitler.
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Don't "be normal"

By "be normal" I mean at a very basic level.
By "be normal" I mean follow the meme advice of Jordan Peterson.
Just TRY.
Try to look attractive, try to be interesting, try to not be (overly) weird.
I said it in my own post that you can sperg, but sperg in a suave manner.

Also, not everyone here is meant to reproduce. Some of you here are destined by God to live a life of celibacy doing something or other.
The Zoomer adage of "no bitches?" is a real detriment to society.
#80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmyd04xkr6E


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