The Path to Ultimate Power: How Do We Win?
#81
(11-13-2022, 08:10 PM)BillyONare Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmyd04xkr6E

I don't watch AOT by my GF likes it.
#82
>How do we win?

I've adopted a passive outlook that whatever is or was going to happen is or was going to happen with or without my input or participation. I believe this holds true for everyone no matter how important they may think they are. Therefore, the impetus is not on tactics, but on moments of intervention. Building up enough power and impetus and then shooting your shot at the right moment. Spend 10 or 15 years building up potential energy and then cashing it all in for kinetic energy at just the right moment of impact.
And then exploiting any opportunities that arise from the crisis you created to convert that kinetic energy into momentum, gathering together the energy of others and overcoming the resistance of your enemies.

As for the specifics of strategies, e-leaders, and plans, most of them are probably valid metas, so long as they are banking up power and resources as the 'potential energy,' that can be cashed in quickly later on as 'kinetic energy.' In other words, to adopt the left's slogan: embrace a diversity of tactics. Personally I favor the passivism approach. Just don't die before the war, because then you have zero potential energy.

Also, hi everyone. #MyFirstTweet
#83
(11-14-2022, 10:18 AM)Carbide Wrote: >How do we win?

I've adopted a passive outlook that whatever is or was going to happen is or was going to happen with or without my input or participation. I believe this holds true for everyone no matter how important they may think they are. Therefore, the impetus is not on tactics, but on moments of intervention. Building up enough power and impetus and then shooting your shot at the right moment. Spend 10 or 15 years building up potential energy and then cashing it all in for kinetic energy at just the right moment of impact.
And then exploiting any opportunities that arise from the crisis you created to convert that kinetic energy into momentum, gathering together the energy of others and overcoming the resistance of your enemies.

As for the specifics of strategies, e-leaders, and plans, most of them are probably valid metas, so long as they are banking up power and resources as the 'potential energy,' that can be cashed in quickly later on as 'kinetic energy.' In other words, to adopt the left's slogan: embrace a diversity of tactics. Personally I favor the passivism approach. Just don't die before the war, because then you have zero potential energy.

Also, hi everyone. #MyFirstTweet

HELLO CARBIDE

Thank you for coming. I do not think this is a strategy. A strategy is something particular. I have warned against this very type of "strategizing" in my post Imperium. Potential energy? Kinetic energy? Opportunism vs proactive action? You cannot effectively apply these approaches to any given case. If you were given some specific case to deliberate upon strategically, it would not do you any good to consider such ideas as "potential", "kinetic", "opportunism", "proactive action", in your strategic plan. What would do you good would be the consideration of the facts of the case in relation to your goal, and nothing else.

I have revised my answer to this question, by the way. My post PDF and Miscellanea, subsection Epochal Literature, subsection Reformist/Revolutionary Literature details the strategic framework by which we are destined to win.
#84
https://counter-currents.com/2022/11/the...-now-what/
#85
(11-14-2022, 07:59 PM)The_Author Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 10:18 AM)Carbide Wrote: Said Stuff

HELLO CARBIDE

Thank you for coming. I do not think this is a strategy. A strategy is something particular. I have warned against this very type of "strategizing" in my post Imperium. Potential energy? Kinetic energy? Opportunism vs proactive action? You cannot effectively apply these approaches to any given case. If you were given some specific case to deliberate upon strategically, it would not do you any good to consider such ideas as "potential", "kinetic", "opportunism", "proactive action", in your strategic plan. What would do you good would be the consideration of the facts of the case in relation to your goal, and nothing else.

I have revised my answer to this question, by the way. My post PDF and Miscellanea, subsection Epochal Literature, subsection Reformist/Revolutionary Literature details the strategic framework by which we are destined to win.

Hey.

>I do not think this is a strategy. A strategy is something particular.
In chess, there is strategy, tactics, and plans as three distinct categories. Strategy is positional play. Keeping your options opened, or rather maximizing your future possibilities. And a plan is an avenue along which you develop your strategy in the hopes of your strategy yielding tactical opportunities. For example, your strategy might be to castle kingside and your plan might be to launch an attack on the queenside, and your tactic could be a fishing pole trap to expose the enemy king. Real life isn't chess, but to say that a strategy has to be a concrete sequence of steps (a plan) is just wrong. A strategy is positioning yourself intelligently to take advantage of opportunities. Future opportunities are unknowable, because the world is chaotic and difficult to predict for even the most brilliant minds. All you can say is what you think is likely, and then position yourself to be well leveraged for that possibility, if you turn out to be correct. And then have a contingency for if you are wrong. This is what my post advises, so it is a strategy.

Passivism positions you to be well prepared for a civil war or other kind of social disjunction, and if no social disjunction takes place, you're still better off than you would have been, because you've presumably gotten land and contacted other free families and stockpiled food, ammo, and tools.

>I have warned against this very type of "strategizing"
You should post it here.
I will link the defining post on passivism.

>You cannot apply these approaches to any given case
Maybe I was being too abstract. But you can certainly apply land ownership, food stockpiles, weapons, ammo, and a large tribalistic family to any given case. My point was that quibbling over plans and tactics is pointless. The future is in flux and unknowable. Flexibility is more important than any e-celeb's milieu, or any given "plan" which will almost certainly not work out the way it was advertised. No one needs to do anything. The forces involved are so much more vast than we can even imagine, an entire civilization is coming to an end. The inertia of billions of people and thousands of years is in motion and it's hubris to think we can stop its collapse or start the war before it's good and ready to start. I think the most important thing is to impart the perspective on the scope of what we're experiencing.

Personally, I believe in that a conventional armed struggle centered in North America is inevitable. I believe most every nation on earth is going to be involved in it, and sending men and materiel to influence its outcome. I believe we're at the end of our civilization and the end of White Christianity (Brown Christianity will persist for a few centuries, still). I could be wrong on any of my assumptions, but that's my outlook. The questions of how the world will get to that explosion of violence, and when that will be, are unknowable and unpredictable by anyone -- even the trillionaire rothschilds and other chosenite vampires don't know what shape the goyim reactions will take to their provocations. So we need to be positioned intelligently to take advantage of an unknowable future and place our faith in the inevitability of armed violence within our lifetimes.
#86
@Carbide
This may not be on topic exactly, but I believe North America is much too stable for an actual civil war. If there will be a war in the West, I would guess it takes place in Eastern Europe, or in East Asia (counting Australia, Japan to the West).

More on topic, I agree on flexibility as a virtue for the individual. The future will bring greater, more distinct aggregation of counter-forces to the liberal egregore, but it is too early to tell what shape it will take or what role you personally wil play in it.
#87
(11-16-2022, 05:20 AM)Hamamelis Wrote: @Carbide
This may not be on topic exactly, but I believe North America is much too stable for an actual civil war. If there will be a war in the West, I would guess it takes place in Eastern Europe, or in East Asia (counting Australia, Japan to the West).

More on topic, I agree on flexibility as a virtue for the individual. The future will bring greater, more distinct aggregation of counter-forces to the liberal egregore, but it is too early to tell what shape it will take or what role you personally wil play in it.

Not a rare take. I may be wrong. We've been waiting for a civil war for a long time and lives have come and gone waiting for it. The odds are always on the side of team nothingburger. But we live in times of unprecedented something-sandwich. Whatever stability America enjoyed in the past is now just a memory. Food is no longer cheap and entertainment is no longer watchable, so Bread and Circuses has failed. Millions are dying from the clot shot and a weaponized medical industry. There is widespread, endemic, and coordinated fraud in elections such that it is only a matter of time before the commoner loses faith entirely in the process. And, critically, the cost of energy is rising sharply with no end in sight or possible. Westoid ideology precludes it from using nuclear and coal, yet also turned all of Russia's energy away towards China in what is an all but permanent transformation of the economy which will expand beyond energy to food prices again as all grain from Ukraine and Russia are sold to the Asian markets. The crises the west is in is an unsolvable gridlock of sacred cows, totally intractable.
And to top it all off, the US consumer market is a market that no one on earth can afford to give up, so when push comes to shove, as it must, I say there's no chance of a bloodless balkanization or other resolution to the tension we're experiencing. It's gonna be bad, because everyone has their carrots in our stew.
#88
very true. for all the historical comparisons, the histories of today are yet unwritten. the only certainty is that they will tell tales of men who lived, acted, and died in the present, not of phantoms from centuries past.
#89
(11-16-2022, 05:20 AM)Hamamelis Wrote: @Carbide
This may not be on topic exactly, but I believe North America is much too stable for an actual civil war. If there will be a war in the West, I would guess it takes place in Eastern Europe, or in East Asia (counting Australia, Japan to the West).

More on topic, I agree on flexibility as a virtue for the individual. The future will bring greater, more distinct aggregation of counter-forces to the liberal egregore, but it is too early to tell what shape it will take or what role you personally wil play in it.

Australia? Ahahahahahahahahahaah. I highly doubt it mate. The only hope I see is if the racial tensions akin to the 2005 Cronulla riots return (a really underappreciated event that many of our frens do not know of, being the most recent event of pro-white backlash in the Anglosphere at least).
Australia has the unique position of inspiring the racial policies of countries like the Third Reich and Apartheid South Africa. It was the closest any nation in the New World has gotten to East Asian levels of homogeneity (even countries like Canada and New Zealand don't count due to the French in the former and the Maori in the latter). Australia was the closest the world has ever gotten to a 'perfect society', with no racial issues and class a significantly weaker factor than the rest of the West due to the inherently egalitarian nature of Anglo-Australian culture due to convict roots.
It's the reason why Australia has become the testbed for CCP tactics and White replacement. They want to destroy our people's best efforts first.

Imagine something like this happening in the U.S. in the 2000s.

Let us dream of a time when we can have another 'leb and wog bashing day', but far grander and including far more undesirable ethnicities.
>inb4 wignat
#90
(11-18-2022, 04:54 AM)Verl Wrote: Let us dream of a time when we can have another 'leb and wog bashing day'

Word of caution re: speaking ill of Anthony.
#91
(11-18-2022, 04:54 AM)Verl Wrote:
(11-16-2022, 05:20 AM)Hamamelis Wrote: ...

Australia? Ahahahahahahahahahaah. ...

>Australia, most stable place in the world
>proceed to name every reason why this might not be the case anymore in the future

Wonderful. 

For what it's worth, I was rather thinking along the lines of a "pacific theatre", where war breaks out eg. between Japan and China, and the fallout involves the greater East and South-East Asian region.
#92
(11-18-2022, 09:58 AM)Chud Wrote:
(11-18-2022, 04:54 AM)Verl Wrote: Let us dream of a time when we can have another 'leb and wog bashing day'

Word of caution re: speaking ill of Anthony.

I would more likely hold ill will due to his residency in Melbourne rather than his ethnic origins Tongue
Just kidding, oomfie.
#93
(11-18-2022, 06:44 PM)Verl Wrote:
(11-18-2022, 09:58 AM)Chud Wrote:
(11-18-2022, 04:54 AM)Verl Wrote: Let us dream of a time when we can have another 'leb and wog bashing day'

Word of caution re: speaking ill of Anthony.

I would more likely hold ill will due to his residency in Melbourne rather than his ethnic origins Tongue
Just kidding, oomfie.
I hold ill will due to the word 'oomfie'. Can we do word filters here? I'd like this automatically changed to "please be patient I have down syndrome."
#94
A good video criticisng the idea of a 'Second American Civil War': https://youtu.be/SDWteFksX58
#95
(11-27-2022, 01:25 AM)Verl Wrote: A good video criticisng the idea of a 'Second American Civil War': https://youtu.be/SDWteFksX58

That video is saying that it's gonna be bad, not that it's not going to happen. Almost all of the points in that video are valid, but it's still going to happen. It will be the bloodiest civil war in human history, it will probably last 9+ years, and have a death toll of 50 million. But it's unavoidable. They want us dead and will accept no alternative. At some point we're going to have to fight, or we will be eradicated by a direct physical genocide after they've whittled us down with hormone and pharmaceutical and biological warfare as well as genocidal policy to encourage low birth rates and a divestment of our political and financial power for decades. The idea it supports -- a national divorce -- is an impossible outcome. Obviously it's preferable to war, hardly anyone would argue otherwise, even the gun shop strawman type. But it's not on the table, because the American consumer market is a golden goose for the world that no vested power would ever be willing to lose to nationalist isolationism.

Bottom line: do you really think the jews will ever allow racially conscious, nationalist white men to be alone amongst themselves in their own sovereign nation and talk openly and honestly about the problems faced by their people? It's laughable. They would invent stories about crematoria and babies being thrown out of incubators and nuke such a country, and have worldwide support for their moral and heroic actions within a month.
#96
(11-27-2022, 02:57 PM)Carbide Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 01:25 AM)Verl Wrote: A good video criticisng the idea of a 'Second American Civil War': https://youtu.be/SDWteFksX58

That video is saying that it's gonna be bad, not that it's not going to happen. Almost all of the points in that video are valid, but it's still going to happen. It will be the bloodiest civil war in human history, it will probably last 9+ years, and have a death toll of 50 million. But it's unavoidable. They want us dead and will accept no alternative. At some point we're going to have to fight, or we will be eradicated by a direct physical genocide after they've whittled us down with hormone and pharmaceutical and biological warfare as well as genocidal policy to encourage low birth rates and a divestment of our political and financial power for decades. The idea it supports -- a national divorce -- is an impossible outcome. Obviously it's preferable to war, hardly anyone would argue otherwise, even the gun shop strawman type. But it's not on the table, because the American consumer market is a golden goose for the world that no vested power would ever be willing to lose to nationalist isolationism.

Bottom line: do you really think the jews will ever allow racially conscious, nationalist white men to be alone amongst themselves in their own sovereign nation and talk openly and honestly about the problems faced by their people? It's laughable. They would invent stories about crematoria and babies being thrown out of incubators and nuke such a country, and have worldwide support for their moral and heroic actions within a month.

I agree. The question is: will Americans be strong enough to fight or will they just be genocided? Even a defeat at battle, like the Native Americans, would be more honourable than just accepting the loss, like the Aboriginals in Australia.

A point I don't think he mentioned is the uselessness of the supposed 'superior equipment' of the military when in urban combat. Despite the neurotic nature of the elite, they don't want to kill off whites just to have a useless country, unsuitable for grazing their mystery-meat goy-cattle, once it's all over. They're not just going to destroy all the interstates with bombers. There's a reason why the Russians have been very restrained in Ukraine. They want a land that is still functional.

Another point, I think he understates the engineering prowess of the American people. America has by and large been the nation that built the modern world technologically, at least from the 20th century onward, and their descendants are now the impoverished white men most likely to support rebellion. And many of these men aren't even in the field of their forte due to affirmative action. Imagine the zeal of finally being able to work on what you've always wanted to for a proper cause multiplying the usual expedient technological growth that occurs in war. Who is to say that the rebels won't manage to invent a new, infinitesimally cheaper form of anti-air weaponry, for example?
An amply-equipped suicide bomber could easily sneak in and disable a tank or APC or any other type of armour within a dense urban environment. There is a reason it is dubbed the 'human a-bomb.'

Also, are the zogbots in the military willing to even die for such a cause? Militaries, not just American but in many other Western nations, are starving for recruits. How many browns serving are there simply for the benefits? He fails to mention how through out all of Iraq and Afghanistan the bulk of those who were in active combat roles were white Southerners, despite all the 'diversity'. I have a friend from the Philippines who explained the blatant truth that most Filipinos in the U.S. Navy (they have a base there) are just there for citizenship. This sounds just like Rome, and how did diversity hiring work out for them?

He lists the uses the IRA and the Troubles as a whole as the most likely example of what would occur. I don't recall them losing per-se, although they didn't win. What about the French Revolution? They didn't have any financial or industrial support by any other nation. Yet they kept the whole continent seething (mostly thanks to Napoleon) for two decades, all the while teetering on the edge of bankruptcy and understaffed in vital areas of importance due to the flight of the elite for much of it.

Why does 'taking the vax' single-handedly rule one out from going AWOL and supporting fellow whites if one is in the military? Who is to say whole divisions of the military won't just get up and leave to fight in defence of their families, taking much 'high-class' weaponry with them?
Who is to say the weaponry from Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon and the like aren't just ridiculously over-priced due to some cabal-esque agreement between the major American weaponry manufacturers to ensure record profits? Why can an iPhone be over-priced but an M1A1 Abrams not?
The AK-47 may be much more cheaper and 'low-quality' compared to the M4, but it has still fared-well, toe to toe.

At the end of the day, if the mystery-meat globohomo-spawn of the U.S. military don't have the will to fight, it doesn't matter how disproportionately well-equipped the U.S. is compared to the insurgents, the insurgents will win. A lot of double standards: Russia is supposedly weak because they can't stop all of their men from dying and have to constantly enact 'parital mobilisation', but the manpower shortage in the U.S. military isn't considered at all?

I do think his criticism of the prevelant mentality "if they do x i'm just gonna use ma guns" is valid. But that does not mean the American people can use politics alone to gain victory. Violence will eventually come to them. Politics must be used to provide a 'light of the alternative' to whites, to validate their feelings that they may feel are 'wrong'. The truth needs to be spread. But politics won't get America out of the mess it is in. Every white American male reading this MUST form Mannerbunds, associations with other like-minded men to prepare for the worst. Get fit, spread the truth, prepare for when shit hits the fan, find a wife (although having kids is up to one's discretion, a man with a family will find it harder to fight in war), and most importantly "be the Hitler you want to see in the world".
#97
(11-27-2022, 07:28 PM)Verl Wrote: I do think his criticism of the prevelant mentality "if they do x i'm just gonna use ma guns" is valid. But that does not mean the American people can use politics alone to gain victory. Violence will eventually come to them. Politics must be used to provide a 'light of the alternative' to whites, to validate their feelings that they may feel are 'wrong'. The truth needs to be spread. But politics won't get America out of the mess it is in. Every white American male reading this MUST form Mannerbunds, associations with other like-minded men to prepare for the worst. Get fit, spread the truth, prepare for when shit hits the fan, find a wife (although having kids is up to one's discretion, a man with a family will find it harder to fight in war), and most importantly "be the Hitler you want to see in the world".

Very smart comments as usual, Verl. I for one have a printed, physical SHTF pact signed by a number of my closest friends and allies. We have a couple dozen firearms between us, plenty of mechanical expertise, lots of arable land in the countryside, and indomitable will, a hatred of the Powers That Be, and loyalty to one another. When The Time of Tribulation comes, watch for the stark Black and White Banner of the Stag and the Crosslet! (in your case, I suppose from ozzy TV [shrug]) This shall be the Foundation of a new People. Perhaps then ours sons shall colonize the Caribbean - but first, we must focus on Victory.
#98
(11-28-2022, 11:38 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 07:28 PM)Verl Wrote: I do think his criticism of the prevelant mentality "if they do x i'm just gonna use ma guns" is valid. But that does not mean the American people can use politics alone to gain victory. Violence will eventually come to them. Politics must be used to provide a 'light of the alternative' to whites, to validate their feelings that they may feel are 'wrong'. The truth needs to be spread. But politics won't get America out of the mess it is in. Every white American male reading this MUST form Mannerbunds, associations with other like-minded men to prepare for the worst. Get fit, spread the truth, prepare for when shit hits the fan, find a wife (although having kids is up to one's discretion, a man with a family will find it harder to fight in war), and most importantly "be the Hitler you want to see in the world".

Very smart comments as usual, Verl. I for one have a printed, physical SHTF pact signed by a number of my closest friends and allies. We have a couple dozen firearms between us, plenty of mechanical expertise, lots of arable land in the countryside, and indomitable will, a hatred of the Powers That Be, and loyalty to one another. When The Time of Tribulation comes, watch for the stark Black and White Banner of the Stag and the Crosslet! (in your case, I suppose from ozzy TV [shrug]) This shall be the Foundation of a new People. Perhaps then ours sons shall colonize the Caribbean - but first, we must focus on Victory.

I feel we are getting a bit into fedposting territory. It's not my call though.
#99
(11-28-2022, 06:41 PM)Verl Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 11:38 AM)JohnnyRomero Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 07:28 PM)Verl Wrote: I do think his criticism of the prevelant mentality "if they do x i'm just gonna use ma guns" is valid. But that does not mean the American people can use politics alone to gain victory. Violence will eventually come to them. Politics must be used to provide a 'light of the alternative' to whites, to validate their feelings that they may feel are 'wrong'. The truth needs to be spread. But politics won't get America out of the mess it is in. Every white American male reading this MUST form Mannerbunds, associations with other like-minded men to prepare for the worst. Get fit, spread the truth, prepare for when shit hits the fan, find a wife (although having kids is up to one's discretion, a man with a family will find it harder to fight in war), and most importantly "be the Hitler you want to see in the world".

Very smart comments as usual, Verl. I for one have a printed, physical SHTF pact signed by a number of my closest friends and allies. We have a couple dozen firearms between us, plenty of mechanical expertise, lots of arable land in the countryside, and indomitable will, a hatred of the Powers That Be, and loyalty to one another. When The Time of Tribulation comes, watch for the stark Black and White Banner of the Stag and the Crosslet! (in your case, I suppose from ozzy TV [shrug]) This shall be the Foundation of a new People. Perhaps then ours sons shall colonize the Caribbean - but first, we must focus on Victory.

I feel we are getting a bit into fedposting territory. It's not my call though.

Fair point, even though that was certainly not my intent. Sincerely and seriously, nobody break any laws. Don't be stupid. The only result is going to jail forever or getting incinerated. I hope this should go without saying.
We must find comrades and pool our money and talent. Need to invest in 3 campuses, rural for SHTF and useful purposes of rural land, suburban for raising children, and urban for finding mates. SHTF clique must double as a small real estate empire. House hacking.

Group that embraces pacificism. GNC is quickly dying. Why make yourself a target with politic aspirations and loud mouth attention whoring on the internet? If you have a group of high quality men then just use them for nepotism, favorable untaxed bartering, homeschooling, real estate schemes. Help other men with all aspects of life and stack bitcoin. Don't go full gossip queen or think you are Stalin 2.0.



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