The Sex Life of the Modern Man

[Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean]

Inspired by some posts in the "Regarding pr0n" thread I want to discuss the different paths a Man of Our Time may take in his intimate relations, or lack thereof. The results may surprise some.

From the 'pedia:

Dating & relationships: ran through whores, roasties, neuroticism. Worse, you have to play an unpaid bit part in the pretend Netflix drama that is your gf's life.

Pr0n: oh, the ugliness.

Marriage: there are no White nations with Common-Sense Laws in this domain.

Prostitutes: one wastes money on them, unless they are kept in caves or basements.

Incel but practicing semen retention: cucked if the practitioner has low libido.

Rayp: women enjoy it, but there are solutions...

Love: cannot be chosen.

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There are only two Sensible Options here: visit cruise ships and retain your semen otherwise. However, if some of you wish to challenge me on this, I am eager to engage in poasting combat. Come one, come all.

[Guest]

Theory: faggot op who keeps making accounts with meme flags to force his memes does not live in a white country nor is he white

[anthony]

Like with the "incel" question I'm more interested in expanding these issues around women and such into broader questions. The margin for success in this is very narrow for modern man. Basically unless you fall into sanity around early 20s or so with a partner you get on with who isn't too libtard mind poisoned your prospects rapidly become desolate and desperate. A roughly equivalent situation to employment. You pick right (more like get picked right since you have so little power early in life) and get put on a good education track towards an in demand skill, then find yourself a good opening out of university and are able to keep working and winning, and get the good career progress we all used to think was normal and possible for everyone.

On both of these tracks, any kind of early falling off or conflict is increasingly likely to leave you destitute for life. Awkward as a youth, don't become socially comfortable until say, after college and employment? Good luck securing a relationship, let alone marriage and a nice family. Your retarded zoo of a school makes you depressed, you aren't directed towards any viable or useful skill, get forced into a McDegree because it still "opens doors" for you? Yeah good luck ever getting to wear a suit to work. I hear dbdr's old warehouse is still constantly hiring.

The "incel" state is more like a total life failure state in which you aren't totally homeless or destitute, but it's still probably over. Less "involuntarily celibate" or "not on a good career track". The existential condition feels like it needs something broader and more crushing to describe it. "Discarded". "Over". "Jeremylocked".

You slip at any point and you're likely just never getting anything that constituted a nice life by the standards of say, 30 years ago. Robin Williams' character from One Hour Photo is going to be every other White American Man soon. Does he have a satisfying "sex life"? No. But would you look at the state of that man's life and say that his problem is sexual failure?

This is where this discourse needs to go next. The rest is done. We need a term that catches to describe this totally destitute state that appears to await so many.

[Guest]

mass artificial insemination fraud + imagination 'batin stack ftw

[Unformed Golem]

I have noticed that an obviously disproportionate proportion of men I encounter in successful marriages met their wives in high school or even in childhood. A few late bloomers managed to snag someone in college. In the absence of (increasingly rare and attenuated) religious or social pressure to actually marry and reproduce this is a years-long multistep idiosyncratically complicated process where failure at any step leads to failure. Basically what @anthony said.

I don't think it's necessary or even constructive to taxonomize what happens to men who "fail" at this. Much better to analyze both individual and systematic ways to fix the problem -- really basic stuff like propagandizing women who take BC as dumb sluts, terrorizing anyone involved with "family" "law", banning "coeducation", etc.

[Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean]

I have noticed that an obviously disproportionate proportion of men I encounter in successful marriages met their wives in high school or even in childhood.  A few late bloomers managed to snag someone in college.  In the absence of (increasingly rare and attenuated) religious or social pressure to actually marry and reproduce this is a years-long multistep idiosyncratically complicated process where failure at any step leads to failure.  Basically what @anthony said.

I don't think it's necessary or even constructive to taxonomize what happens to men who "fail" at this.  Much better to analyze both individual and systematic ways to fix the problem -- really basic stuff like propagandizing women who take BC as dumb sluts, terrorizing anyone involved with "family" "law", banning "coeducation", etc.

Contemporary romances are total Kitsch, so far as I can see. With the intelligent couples who try to do it, there is a tinge of sadness about it; they know all the talk of Love and Marriage is ultimately false.

The laws and culture mean any "marriage" is (viewed historically) a bizarre act of submission to state will. Somewhat like the vagcine. It almost never makes a difference if the participants are Trads. You would need a Trad Wife whose mind was without any regard for our noble institutions who guard family life.

With all due respect, I think that you are coping for the state of women in 2023.

Show me a living woman who deserves True Romance.

[Unformed Golem]

Modern women are trash. What else is there to say? The question is how to make them stop being trash, or at least increase the ratio of worthwhile women to roasties.

[Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean]

Modern women are trash.  What else is there to say?  The question is how to make them stop being trash, or at least increase the ratio of worthwhile women to roasties.

Yes, it would seem odd that with a billion or so women about, that there are none worthy of even a love affair; but then there is the issue that if you did become involved with such a woman, you would have a "relationship" of some sort, and suffer the resulting suffocating domesticity; because, what woman on the planet has not been reared on the idea that intimate relations have as their only end a sham happiness?

Where are the Trad Wives? (Not the frauds on Twitter.)

Beyond that type of woman, there could be another. FeministFrau got it wrong, and "Based Woman" is an oxymoron, but I feel that something must be possible.

[Guest]

Current formulation of the world will not shape any Trade Wives. Anything within the law in most (all?) countries is already self-litigated, null. The contract itself is broken.

Unless a girl wants to give herself fully as the greatest aspiration, and this alone is her desire, she will not fulfill any of that other desire. We see mercantile pairings, and relations as meds, to make one normal etc.

Mass hormonal alteration via birth control. Mass obesity. Stilted nurturing, in chambers of forced "equal" settings. Given weak exhaust valves so some can cope and say "look it is still alive there!"

Still, there are exceptions. There are always exceptions, and always will be. Whether it is worthwhile to pursue is up to the person. Social settings always drag these exceptions down, and women are social creatures by and large. So you might be looking at a situation where you require an exception who is also an exception (a woman who is not a social creature), which further reduces the pool.

Anecdote: Rich girl and rich boy are together, both inheritors of large estates. Instead of relaxing etc. the girl forces herself into wage-slavery. Becomes neurotic mess. All for some strange "pride in work." Work will set you free irony etc. etc. Couple seemed fairly nice and natural before this developed upon its way.

Anyway, it is an ugly time for sex and romance and love. I wish myself and everyone else good luck.

[Illustrious]

Anecdote: Rich girl and rich boy are together, both inheritors of large estates. Instead of relaxing etc. the girl forces herself into wage-slavery. Becomes neurotic mess. All for some strange "pride in work." Work will set you free irony etc. etc. Couple seemed fairly nice and natural before this developed upon its way.

"Feminism is the idea that women are slaves when they help their husbands but free when they help their employers"

[Chud]

"Feminism is the idea that women are slaves when they help their husbands but free when they help their employers"

— Mr. Lobe

[Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean]

I like to wander through the seedier parts of a city at dusk, or a little after nightfall. The Reeperbahns, De Wallens and Pattayas of the world.

There I find men with red burning cheeks and spittle about their laughing mouths. Lager in a beer glass or sticky on a table. Dark hairs seen on the back of a pale hand in stark light. The vomit on the curb, trailing into the gutter, and splashed over the cobblestones. A stiletto heel carelessly stood in the sick; the shiny and cheap white leather of the upper beside the lurid vom. The blank waxed legs, with an almost tasteful fake tan. Slightly bent knees, a harsh security light catches. A grey Gaussian blur over the back thigh muscles. Going up to a tight white skirt rounding the rear.

A display in the window of a sex shop, dildos in a row. White, coffee brown, rainbow. Are the girls' giggles for them?

A man's thighs covered in coarse black hair; a pair of black PVC briefs, crowned with a heart-shaped buckle on a belt. His voice is gravel. A soft pink light in the window behind him. A seated woman with stockings and suspenders over parted legs. The breasts covered decently: Little pointed plastic covers for the nipples. Leaning forwards, her tight navel visible, but the gap below, shadow.  The purpling sky is the narrow ceiling to this alley. A woman brushes her hair in a lamp-lit room.

The artificiality does not repel, nor the lewdness.

The mass produced feelings and emotions; the nervous system on an assembly line.

Forms long since run to cliché, nonetheless repeated each night by the slavery of sex. Is there no escape?

[Guest]

I like to wander through the seedier parts of a city at dusk, or a little after nightfall. The Reeperbahns, De Wallens and Pattayas of the world.

There I find men with red burning cheeks and spittle about their laughing mouths. Lager in a beer glass or sticky on a table. Dark hairs seen on the back of a pale hand in stark light. The vomit on the curb, trailing into the gutter, and splashed over the cobblestones. A stiletto heel carelessly stood in the sick; the shiny and cheap white leather of the upper beside the lurid vom. The blank waxed legs, with an almost tasteful fake tan. Slightly bent knees, a harsh security light catches. A grey Gaussian blur over the back thigh muscles. Going up to a tight white skirt rounding the rear.

A display in the window of a sex shop, dildos in a row. White, coffee brown, rainbow. Are the girls' giggles for them?

A man's thighs covered in coarse black hair; a pair of black PVC briefs, crowned with a heart-shaped buckle on a belt. His voice is gravel. A soft pink light in the window behind him. A seated woman with stockings and suspenders over parted legs. The breasts covered decently: Little pointed plastic covers for the nipples. Leaning forwards, her tight navel visible, but the gap below, shadow.  The purpling sky is the narrow ceiling to this alley. A woman brushes her hair in a lamp-lit room.

The artificiality does not repel, nor the lewdness.

The mass produced feelings and emotions; the nervous system on an assembly line.

Forms long since run to cliché, nonetheless repeated each night by the slavery of sex. Is there no escape?

i masterbaited to this

[Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean]

i masterbaited to this

At least you enjoyed reading it.

[Trevor Bauer]

Women don't find men attractive. The median number of matches for men is 0. Most human beings are totally devoid of sex appeal and women haven't rational standards. What do most men offer women besides their lack of sex appeal? Less income? No income? There are many reasons women were never free to make every choice in their lives with an economic advantage. Feminism is a death cult. It is profoundly satanic. But this is their big contribution to philosophy. Make of that what you will.