The Warehouse

[Zed]

A man who is sensitive enough to respond to the modern world in the way we do, to see what is being done to him, is not a classical masculine spirit. Yes, he's a little gay. He has a mixture of feminine characteristics. Is it really surprising that so many men who have browsed Amarna1 and 2 are somewhat feminine? Consider young Mishima and his supposed love of Novalis, which seems almost exaggerated in order to contrast the solar image.

In my experience, nothing rivals the capacity for misogyny of a full-on homosexual male. The classical heterosexual male is merely indifferent toward the vagina. The homosexual male is truly disgusted by it, and will often express this to you without being asked. Straight men have held a utilitarian view of the female sex since time immemorial. "Slick Rick - Treat Her Like a Prostitute". This survives in our Ernest Clinesque Amazonworker, but diffused through irony and virtual pleasures.

[Hamamelis]

- how are people being warehoused, on a mechanical level, what process numbs them to this point?

School. Isn't that obvious? Being stuck in a miserable place with no outs and constant pressures and stresses of all kinds for years on end and told that this is right and proper and it will never be otherwise.

No, I don't think it's so obvious. Above I said school is certainly a gate to clinicspace, but school comes in different forms on one hand, and on the other hand, many have differing experiences in the same school. Especially when we are talking about the condition of the lower classes, where school can be said to demand less of your performance than for the upper strata of society, I don't immediately get how schools produce warehoused men. Are criminals warehoused?
I can readily see how being crammed into a glorified waiting room with a dozen others without anything worthwile to do is damaging to a child, particularly to ambitions, imagination and ability. But schools were like this for ever, and the warehoused are a new phenomenon.

- can you be forced into clinicspace (I'd say yes, obviously), and how do you escape?

Yes, obviously they force you in. And there are outs. But as you allude to in the rest of your post, it's something you take with you even when you aren't inside. Learned habits and behaviours and attitudes. I really believe the big getting out stories are more about people who were never truly taken in. This stuff is really less of a mindset more of a mauling. You don't change your mind on damage.

You can escape such environments, find more pleasant spaces and things to do, opportunities to work for growth, progress, and cultivation rather than mere subsistence. Enjoy rather than survive. And this will be good for your mind. But you'll still be carrying it with you. Illich's book was called Deschooling Society. Deschooling is a kind of movement, but the focus has always been on treating children right from the start, not reversing the damage done by being treated wrong. But, I believe if you have a grip on the principles and ideas you can kind of mentally work it back a bit. I think I'm better than I've been before, not through any deliberate process, I just think certain things I read and thought through were good for me. Doesn't mean I'm good. I haven't escaped. You don't escape from being crippled. You can't just pull a plug and everything's different.

Growing even remotely acclimated to your life becoming a joyless grind is a spiritual catastrophe. A rape of your being. There is no course, program, or advice to fix this.

I agree wholeheartedly and don't have anything to add to this. My point was, a concept like clinicspace describes a broken part of the world, and should be accompanied by an idea of how that part would look whole. That would in itself maybe not be an "escape plan", but an ideal as an aid to orientation. I have not read Illich (did he write in German or English originally?), and maybe I should, in any case I think it would be interesting if we had a thread speficically about schools and deschooling.

[JohnnyRomero]

I can readily see how being crammed into a glorified waiting room with a dozen others without anything worthwile to do is damaging to a child, particularly to ambitions, imagination and ability. But schools were like this for ever, and the warehoused are a new phenomenon.

"Since 1950 = forever!"

I think the recentness of the Warehouse has to do with recent American economic collapse. Schools were slavery in the 50s through the 80s, but in those times people still had (unsustainably) growing economic prospects as higher-status bugslaves (buck-broken "nerd" engineers, business suitmonkeys fulfilling nonsense jobs for companies with too much money, etc.) awaiting ahead of them.

[Hamamelis]

Our current idea of what school is supposed to be goes back to Pestalozzi, so roughly to the French revolution. I would expect the 40 student classrooms of the 19th century to be a much more warehousing institution than the daycare we have today, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[JF_]

[anthony]

- how are people being warehoused, on a mechanical level, what process numbs them to this point?

School. Isn't that obvious? Being stuck in a miserable place with no outs and constant pressures and stresses of all kinds for years on end and told that this is right and proper and it will never be otherwise.

No, I don't think it's so obvious. Above I said school is certainly a gate to clinicspace, but school comes in different forms on one hand, and on the other hand, many have differing experiences in the same school. Especially when we are talking about the condition of the lower classes, where school can be said to demand less of your performance than for the upper strata of society, I don't immediately get how schools produce warehoused men. Are criminals warehoused?
I can readily see how being crammed into a glorified waiting room with a dozen others without anything worthwile to do is damaging to a child, particularly to ambitions, imagination and ability. But schools were like this for ever, and the warehoused are a new phenomenon.
I agree wholeheartedly and don't have anything to add to this. My point was, a concept like clinicspace describes a broken part of the world, and should be accompanied by an idea of how that part would look whole. That would in itself maybe not be an "escape plan", but an ideal as an aid to orientation. I have not read Illich (did he write in German or English originally?), and maybe I should, in any case I think it would be interesting if we had a thread speficically about schools and deschooling.

Schools are hard to make sense of because the effects they have on people vary so widely. Morons take this as proof they don't matter and that bad things happen to bad people (yet schooling is also still essential somehow). The difference between warehouse man and the criminal could probably said to be a matter of good will and social instincts. There is a strong warehouse streak in the kind of low class criminal who is likely to end up in and out of prison, their life sentence clinicspace. I have been told by someone who was in jail without raising the point to him, "prison is school".

The low criminal type does actually have a lot in common with warehouse man. They live in sustenance mode and can't really conceptualise their lives being meaningfully better. They just accept that they're going to be put in cages for years on end and just kind of impotently bark about it now and then the same way warehouse man complains about the SJWs trying to make call of duty woke. They both think of themselves as subjects in a strangely similar way.

- can you be forced into clinicspace (I'd say yes, obviously), and how do you escape?

Yes, obviously they force you in. And there are outs. But as you allude to in the rest of your post, it's something you take with you even when you aren't inside. Learned habits and behaviours and attitudes. I really believe the big getting out stories are more about people who were never truly taken in. This stuff is really less of a mindset more of a mauling. You don't change your mind on damage.

You can escape such environments, find more pleasant spaces and things to do, opportunities to work for growth, progress, and cultivation rather than mere subsistence. Enjoy rather than survive. And this will be good for your mind. But you'll still be carrying it with you. Illich's book was called Deschooling Society. Deschooling is a kind of movement, but the focus has always been on treating children right from the start, not reversing the damage done by being treated wrong. But, I believe if you have a grip on the principles and ideas you can kind of mentally work it back a bit. I think I'm better than I've been before, not through any deliberate process, I just think certain things I read and thought through were good for me. Doesn't mean I'm good. I haven't escaped. You don't escape from being crippled. You can't just pull a plug and everything's different.

Growing even remotely acclimated to your life becoming a joyless grind is a spiritual catastrophe. A rape of your being. There is no course, program, or advice to fix this.

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I agree wholeheartedly and don't have anything to add to this. My point was, a concept like clinicspace describes a broken part of the world, and should be accompanied by an idea of how that part would look whole. That would in itself maybe not be an "escape plan", but an ideal as an aid to orientation. I have not read Illich (did he write in German or English originally?), and maybe I should, in any case I think it would be interesting if we had a thread speficically about schools and deschooling.

I understand that endless classification and reclassification is a hazard, and something we should try to avoid. The intention here is not to create "Longhouse: Amarna Term", I really do believe there are distinct and more specific phenomena in play here which we can get a lot from looking at and thinking about. Your suggestion, an idea of how this would look whole, brings another book to my mind. A book which inspired Holt, who worked with Illich, was 'The Making of a Moron'. It was specifically about work. Too early to be about the warehouse, but talking about a lot of proto-warehouse phenomena and human types. More importantly, it was written in closer proximity to sane human history and so doesn't have too hard a time suggesting what's wrong and what should be done. If we wanted to fix his workplace we could talk about that. If we wanted to fix the schooling situation we could talk about that. But it's not quite enough even though I am interested.

The trouble here is identifying warehouse man's problem. We can correct parts of his existence, but people are really holistic beings. It's all connected. Warehouse Man is an existential challenge to civilisation. You cannot fix this with workplace reforms or onlyfans coupons. We need to think about the purpose and final ends of humanity.

Extremely ominous image.

[anthony]

I just remembered an essential piece of Warehouse Art. Not art for Warehouse Man. Art about him.




Session 9 is one of my favourite films from this era. It's shot in 24FPS Digital, and despite the impressions the above trailer may give you, cutting it to look more like a conventional teen thriller of the time, the primary inspiration of the complete film is obviously Don't Look Now (Yes I did just read the wikipedia page to remind myself of all of this).

This movie is such an intriguing portrayal of stress and mundane human misery. Everyone feels real, and everyone is having a plausibly and even relatably awful time. The Digital Filming I don't raise as random trivia. This movie feels uncomfortably real. And its unique, distinctly uncinematic appearance, paired with rather intimate and natural presentation, really gives it a unique edge on its contemporaries. This was probably the most memorable horror film I've seen in years. I very strongly recommend it as a generally interesting piece of cinema, and as a sociology viewing if you're curious about these human dynamics and want to see them dramatised in a pleasing and interesting way.









Do you feel the pain yet?

[Hamamelis]

The trouble here is identifying warehouse man's problem. We can correct parts of his existence, but people are really holistic beings. It's all connected. Warehouse Man is an existential challenge to civilisation. You cannot fix this with workplace reforms or onlyfans coupons. We need to think about the purpose and final ends of humanity.

Is there a version of industrialised civilisation that does not warehouse a part of its populace? I think the warehouse man's problem are intimately connected to the limits of his power - he confines himself because he understands in some way that breaking out of that confinement is pointless, that there is no pay-off to imposing his will. Can a society work (to whatever end it needs to work) when the people who now spend their days immersed in warehousecore are allowed to rule over parts of it, however small those would be?

In the end, I think you produce the warehoused by removing agency from men, and anything that would give it back is an ultimate threat to "the system". And, as you maybe wanted to point out with that last sentence, the "how" to restore those men is closely linked to the "why".

[anthony]

The trouble here is identifying warehouse man's problem. We can correct parts of his existence, but people are really holistic beings. It's all connected. Warehouse Man is an existential challenge to civilisation. You cannot fix this with workplace reforms or onlyfans coupons. We need to think about the purpose and final ends of humanity.

Is there a version of industrialised civilisation that does not warehouse a part of its populace? I think the warehouse man's problem are intimately connected to the limits of his power - he confines himself because he understands in some way that breaking out of that confinement is pointless, that there is no pay-off to imposing his will. Can a society work (to whatever end it needs to work) when the people who now spend their days immersed in warehousecore are allowed to rule over parts of it, however small those would be?

In the end, I think you produce the warehoused by removing agency from men, and anything that would give it back is an ultimate threat to "the system". And, as you maybe wanted to point out with that last sentence, the "how" to restore those men is closely linked to the "why".

For most of history most people have only had very limited agency over their fate. However, they have had a far richer ability to engage with the world around themselves, limited as that might have been. Past limitations were more natural, less like living in a cage and growing cramped and deformed, more like growing into a complete natural form. Yes, these situations were at different times and places rather bad, nobody here is saying that being a peasant is desirable, but warehouse does not really have historic precedent. The world extending beyond you in all directions, the broadest conceptual horizons in history, but you're still trapped in your completely contrived sterile box for life treading water to avoid being completely discarded by this machine that claims to love you.

Everyone has limited agency, even theoretically sovereign kings are bound by circumstance. Warehouse is not some arbitrary threshold of lost agency. It's the more particular state of refined maintenance of unnaturally low human existence.

[Hamamelis]

@anthony Lefty-connotated English word "agency" is not really capturing what I'm trying to say, I think. Not sure I can put it much better. I'm talking about unpreparedness to act, learned helplessness maybe. Less the fact that we are limited by circumstance, more that many are inhibited to fully apply their being to their circumstances. In more pedagogic terms, I think today more potential for development is left on the table than was before, and I would connect that to clinicspace or the warehouse.

[anthony]

@anthony Lefty-connotated English word "agency" is not really capturing what I'm trying to say, I think. Not sure I can put it much better. I'm talking about unpreparedness to act, learned helplessness maybe. Less the fact that we are limited by circumstance, more that many are inhibited to fully apply their being to their circumstances. In more pedagogic terms, I think today more potential for development is left on the table than was before, and I would connect that to clinicspace or the warehouse.

I believe I see where you're going. This is an extremely warehouse related thing but it doesn't stop there. I think it's a clinicspace thing, your life is defined by your spirit running into these contrived walls for so long that it stops moving. This becomes inhibition and then unpreparedness and helplessness.

[Spingebill]

Lefty-connotated English word "agency" is not really capturing what I'm trying to say, I think. Not sure I can put it much better. I'm talking about unpreparedness to act, learned helplessness maybe. Less the fact that we are limited by circumstance, more that many are inhibited to fully apply their being to their circumstances. In more pedagogic terms, I think today more potential for development is left on the table than was before, and I would connect that to clinicspace or the warehouse.

I think what you're looking for is what some libtards call 'being institutionalized.' It doesn't set in immediately upon being warehoused, but happens as the warehoused man gets more and more used to it. It can be quantified by the number of decisions a person makes in a day. If you ever watch any of those youtube channels of guys who used to be in prison talking about their time, a common thread between them is that they describe getting out for the first time as being extremely tiresome. Faced with many more choices than they ever had in prison, their brains just can't handle it. 
The number of decisions made by a warehoused man in a day is similar to that of a prisoner. Orders come down to them from the chain of command and they carry them out, not only from fear of losing their job, but because it's all their institutionalized brain knows how to do. If they find a loophole that makes their job easier but might not be approved by their superiors, they won't use it. Most of their daily decisions are made by their managers, and they're more or less on autopilot as they go about their life. 
It's a loss of autonomy that one might call the death of the human spirit. With the soul dead, there's no more drive to impose their will on the world, and the body carries on moving boxes until it dies.

I would recommend reading Shawshank Redemption (not watching the movie, actually reading it) because it describes being warehoused better than I ever could, but Stephen King is a nigger

[Guest]

I would recommend reading Shawshank Redemption (not watching the movie, actually reading it) because it describes being warehoused better than I ever could, but Stephen King is a nigger

His early books are good, especially those written during his drug-fueled schizo phase.

[JohnnyRomero]

There was mention of Sam Hyde perhaps being warehouse earlier in this thread, but I think in this video he does a pretty good job of identifying the Warehouse (as well as somewhat Norwood) appeal of Breaking Bad:



Particular this part, at around 4:25:

What it is, I think, it's the most primal, basic, revenge feelings that are welling up inside people who work retail, they work at gas stations, they're unemployed, and they have this sort of vague sense that life, that the world is conspiring against them, to rob them, which it is. And what they want it to be, is they wanna imagine that there's a billionaire who cuts in front of them in line at 7-Eleven, and they somehow have the justification to like shoot the billionaire in the chest.

I think that Sam may be alluding specifically to this scene:

In which a resentful, middle-aged, (soon-to-be) bald loser commits an egregious and unprovoked act of violence against another man for the crime of being confident, handsome, tall, strong, wealthy, successful, happy, and worst of all, independent and "selfish." The better story of Breaking Bad is that of an Aryan ubermensch trying to escape the mental constraints of his lower, neurotic, socially-conscious Norwood self, which he finally succeeds in doing when he regrows his hair and admits that he didn't really care about his annoying wife or retarded son and just liked working in a lab, conquering territory, and murdering people. But of course, the masses take away the opposite message from this story; cf. the stupid "You're getting it wrong by admiring them" meme which Norwoods always trot out when people relate to a cool character for being independent and admirable and heroic (e.g. Rorschach, Tyler Durden, Walter, etc.). I think that the Warehouse types are less intellectualizing than the Norwood; while the Norwood couches his resentment in sociological and intellectual terms, the Warehoused Man simply fantasizes about being a badass and killing his boss.

[turnip]

There was mention of Sam Hyde perhaps being warehouse earlier in this thread, but I think in this video he does a pretty good job of identifying the Warehouse (as well as somewhat Norwood) appeal of Breaking Bad:



Particular this part, at around 4:25:

What it is, I think, it's the most primal, basic, revenge feelings that are welling up inside people who work retail, they work at gas stations, they're unemployed, and they have this sort of vague sense that life, that the world is conspiring against them, to rob them, which it is. And what they want it to be, is they wanna imagine that there's a billionaire who cuts in front of them in line at 7-Eleven, and they somehow have the justification to like shoot the billionaire in the chest.

I think that Sam may be alluding specifically to this scene:

In which a resentful, middle-aged, (soon-to-be) bald loser commits an egregious and unprovoked act of violence against another man for the crime of being confident, handsome, tall, strong, wealthy, successful, happy, and worst of all, independent and "selfish." The better story of Breaking Bad is that of an Aryan ubermensch trying to escape the mental constraints of his lower, neurotic, socially-conscious Norwood self, which he finally succeeds in doing when he regrows his hair and admits that he didn't really care about his annoying wife or retarded son and just liked working in a lab, conquering territory, and murdering people. But of course, the masses take away the opposite message from this story; cf. the stupid "You're getting it wrong by admiring them" meme which Norwoods always trot out when people relate to a cool character for being independent and admirable and heroic (e.g. Rorschach, Tyler Durden, Walter, etc.). I think that the Warehouse types are less intellectualizing than the Norwood; while the Norwood couches his resentment in sociological and intellectual terms, the Warehoused Man simply fantasizes about being a badass and killing his boss.

I don't think Sam himself can be classified as "warehouse" as it has been defined here, since he does seem to be aware of the cruelty of modern life, and all of its subtle manifestations, including in the increasingly deranged psychology of the normie. 

However, he does seem to be rather defeatist, and perhaps for this reason his content appeals to a certain subcategory of warehouse types with the advice on how to hustle and take advantage of the system, which is very different from someone like BAP whose focus is on revitalization.

[Trevor Bauer]

There was mention of Sam Hyde perhaps being warehouse earlier in this thread, but I think in this video he does a pretty good job of identifying the Warehouse (as well as somewhat Norwood) appeal of Breaking Bad:

What it is, I think, it's the most primal, basic, revenge feelings that are welling up inside people who work retail, they work at gas stations, they're unemployed, and they have this sort of vague sense that life, that the world is conspiring against them, to rob them, which it is. And what they want it to be, is they wanna imagine that there's a billionaire who cuts in front of them in line at 7-Eleven, and they somehow have the justification to like shoot the billionaire in the chest.

I think that Sam may be alluding specifically to this scene:

In which a resentful, middle-aged, (soon-to-be) bald loser commits an egregious and unprovoked act of violence against another man for the crime of being confident, handsome, tall, strong, wealthy, successful, happy, and worst of all, independent and "selfish." The better story of Breaking Bad is that of an Aryan ubermensch trying to escape the mental constraints of his lower, neurotic, socially-conscious Norwood self, which he finally succeeds in doing when he regrows his hair and admits that he didn't really care about his annoying wife or retarded son and just liked working in a lab, conquering territory, and murdering people. But of course, the masses take away the opposite message from this story; cf. the stupid "You're getting it wrong by admiring them" meme which Norwoods always trot out when people relate to a cool character for being independent and admirable and heroic (e.g. Rorschach, Tyler Durden, Walter, etc.). I think that the Warehouse types are less intellectualizing than the Norwood; while the Norwood couches his resentment in sociological and intellectual terms, the Warehoused Man simply fantasizes about being a badass and killing his boss.

It's possible to just root for a fake guy to stand up for himself and be who he wanted to be, just out of being a Decent Human Being, wanting people to succeed. It doesn't matter to me whether he's a bad guy at times in the process, because I'm never under an illusion that this is real, and I don't think TV is 'important.' This show in particular has nothing to say about society or morality, which is a good thing IMO. I don't want to hear what Hwood libtards think about the world because I don't think their capable of being correct. TV to me shouldn't actively try to say things about the world because it is  gratuitous entertainment like the Super Bowl, which also says nothing about life or morality. I think I found the basic premise compelling enough to care about the outcome, because it was just great entertainment that rivaled any sporting event that I've been invested in. 

 Having watched it during its run and talking with norwoods online, the big difference between my TV viewing and theirs seems to be that they think TV can be 'important.' They would tend to think the other GOAT show, the Wire, is objectively better than this show because the story is much richer and deals with, in their minds, consequential sociological themes. Of course, that's precisely why I hated it and stopped watching it after a couple episodes. 

The normgroid set adored Jesse, seeing him as sort of a de facto nigger, in that he was clearly stupider and for the most part was roped into a lot of crimes out of his circumstances, namely being paired up with a 'psychopath.' Normgroids absolutely love diagnosing people with mental illnesses because psychology is a proxy for confession and redemption, and CBT or depression pills are a proxy for the grace of Christ and the efficacy of prayer and good praxis. I couldn't stand Jesse because he was a stupid wigger, and the plot was usually driven by his fuckups, and its denouement was set in motion by his 'sudden epiphany' and his obnoxious manlet rage. This plot turn resulted in the death of Hank, the destruction of both families, the death of his mestizo slam-hog and the orphaning of her kid which he so cared about, as well as his own facial and emotional scarring. He was given a cathartic ending, but he was better off dead at that point. 

I believe the show's ending was too normie, incurably Christian on some deeper level. If they wanted to do play with emotions and 'subvert right and wrong' and conventional storytelling, they should've let Walter tie up the loose ends and appear to get out of the business without getting caught, all of which he was capable of doing in a believable way. Don't normgroids believe there is no ultimate justice in this world?

[Verl]

Maximalism and excess within acceptable boundaries also describes perhaps their most essential acquired taste, metal music. The continuity between metal album cover art and warhammer is not a coincidence. They are one spiritual tradition of oversocialised white men trying to have their own cool and exciting things without upsetting or harming anybody. And the tendency in both cases is towards total neutering. I admit I do not know metal music too well, and I know national socialist black metal exists, if someone could elaborate on the place of it in broader culture that would be appreciated. But more particularly we are talking about warehouse metal. Warehouse man will not touch outlier media that goes too far. In all things he's like this.

You understate the 'based' aspects of Metal. As we know: "the liberal is more right than the conservative", so I'll let a liberal explain it:


I do think you have a better argument in regards to Warhammer. The two biggest fans of Warhammer I know both work in literal warehouses as well (kek).
While Warhammer can be considered as in the same vein of SFF shlock as Sanderson novels, I don't think metal, especially sub genres like black metal, should be considered in the same way. Metal is one of the most technical and complex forms of 'popular music', and in my opinion represents the ultimate result of the 'whitening' of rock n' roll that began properly The Beatles' Revolver in 1965. Of course in regards to more 'lighter' forms of Metal I think your criticism has more weight.

[Aizen]

As far as metal is concerned, it was underground throughout the 80s, and the only somewhat well known was the "Big Four" of Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax. After Metallica's "Black Album" is when it really hit the mainstream, but Metallica peaked before then in terms of quality. The decline of more mainstream metal after the 90s though is both analagous and contemperaneous to the "Warehousification of Man" as you describe. It's decline is also contemperaneous to the rise of nigger music in the late 00's through the mid 10's as being the music that "cool guys" listen to. Niggers making rhymes about shooting people and doing drugs replaced metal as what was most commonly seen as masculine; I say as someone who grew up during that time of transition. Metal became more whiny, more songs that could be called "metal" in terms of their rhythms, drums, guitar, etc, but were no longer Metal in the sense of their subject matter.

This discussion on the decline of metal, rock, etc. is important because it is the most obvious signal of the decline of White cultural hegemony in America. White superiority still asserts itself, however, in the form of the White soundcloud rapper and EDM remix artist.

[Guest]

I greatly appreciate this topic, as it has put a name to a concept I have been mulling over. I have put together a psychological/sociological profile of, if not *the* Warehouse Man, at least a particular sub-species that I’ve noticed more and more lately.

The typical Warehouse Man is a white man in his mid twenties, roughly within the “Zillenial” age bracket. He is more or less lower-middle class or an upper poor, living in America in either exurbs or formerly white suburbs that have “gone dark” in the last 10-15 years. He’s generally more intelligent and discerning than the people around him but lacks the type of ambition that would lead to willful decision making. His aesthetic tastes are  primarily shaped by the internet, he gets most of his music, clothing, film recommendations from -chan sites or their runoff. Most Warehouse Men hold a vague “anti-authority” political slant; the ones who are more politically oriented came of age during Gamergate, and their beliefs are thus shaped directly by mid-2010s Youtube, either in concordance or opposition. The “right wing” of this group tend to parrot watered down /pol/ sentiments, with an emphasis on their ironic or insincere aspects, as the imageboard engagement always comes first over any material concerns. The second are the “deradicalized”- some flavor of progressive, usually Marxist, who try to emphasize more “reactionary” aspects of leftism in order to still hold onto some sense of alterity they had as teens- these types really want you to know that they watch MDE and they aren’t afraid to make a tastefully racist joke if the mood strikes (usually at the expense of the Japanese or any other “colonial” race). Both of these groups in their attempts to hold onto Eternal 2015-2017 (the time most of them were still in secondary or tertiary schooling, before they entered the Warehouse) through rehashing old memes and subcultural semiotics. I will come back to this point later, but it's also key to mention that this Warehouse Man gets all of his news and political development by watching debate streamers.

It was cautioned earlier in the thread to not attempt to create a “new longhouse” which I agree with, I do believe that the Warehouse is a qualitatively different space with different dimensions. The average longhouse workspace is an analog of the school system- mammies with HR voice running gamified call centers like preschools, teaching codemonkey Millennials how to treat everyone with respect while creating endless makework projects and fake jobs to keep them entertained. The Warehouse workspace, both physically and conceptually is more an analog of the American prison system in its social mores and functions (this is even literal in the sense that many warehouse workers are ex-cons). It is more male-dominated- if the office space is run by women, the “general population” of a warehouse is a multiracial, mixed-age environment dominated by black and Hispanic males, with a few butch lesbians thrown in. The longhouse office employs a soft management style- female authority figures acting as teachers, while the Warehouse has a pecking order, based on “proving yourself” through physical prowess (lifting boxes like lifting weights on the yard, the “school of hard knocks”, etc) and having/respecting seniority. There is a racial tribalism within the Warehouse, with each race more or less sticking to their own, but adopting affected, empty masculine values (“it's all about loyalty, respect, honor, what you bring to the table as a man”) when engaging with each other. The average warehouse laborer is low IQ and prone to compulsive petty criminality, but abides by an imposed moral code, one that is relatively libertine regarding personal responsibilities or decisions, except a particular focus on protecting women and children from some sort of imagined threat (“mi familia, you don’t FUCK with women and KIDS, man”, consider how gang members treat pedophiles/rapists and domestic abuse cases in jail differently from any other crimes). The Warehouse worker is aware he is being kept in a holding cell for the dysgenic and thus spends most of his time on the clock doing as little work as possible, either trying to intimidate others around him or complaining about his conditions. Much energy is put into evading the eyes of the managers (guards), and the average warehouse worker starts to develop a impotent, conspiratorial consciousness; he becomes a victim of higher forces that can control what little freedom he has at his disposal, like prisoners speculating whether or not the warden will be implementing a lockdown based on slight changes to the environment.

This paints a picture: a more intuitive, intellectual white youth graduates high school and due to the lack of prospects provided to him, he enters the Warehouse. He is immediately thrust into an environment of peacocking masculinity centered on impressing and pleasing women, having to listen to his coworkers endlessly explain that even in their forties, they “still be goin hard in the pussy doe”. He’s told “you a whole faggot whiteboy”, knowing that if he protests against it, he’ll be brutalized by a gang of Mexican cousins within seconds, the only older white men to turn to being Norwood ex-methheads turned drug and alcohol counselors- he holds a deference for them, but doesn’t want to end up like them, doing a twentyfive-to-life sentence. His only escape is at home- fed a steady diet of Twitch streamers and hustle grindset crypto get-rich-quick TikTok clips. He initially may have the resolve to escape but as the days pass, this dulls, and he becomes a Warehouse Man. He starts adopting the same hardtard masculinity as his peers, listening to rap and adopting their speech patterns. He abandons any higher pursuits and becomes mired in parochial disputes, complaining about the food in the cafeteria or how someone slighted him during his shift. He starts to make friends with the other inmates, bonding over their shared conditions and being able to “respect their differences”, since he’s proven he can “be real”. His political views become murky, morphing into a vague, amorphous populism mixed with chungus social conservatism, the ressentiment of the slave combined with his puerile religiosity (Hispanic Catholics and increasingly, Black Muslims). 

Every “online content creator”, especially on the right, knows that the Warehouse Man and his normgroid coworkers are their prime audience. Just look at the comments section of any of Nick Fuentes’ recent appearances on random wigger podcasts to witness a sea of quadroon faces writing “respect. y’all be havin the conversation”. One can easily imagine a newly minted Warehouse Man discussing “Balenciaga satanic child rapists these people are SICK, man” or based Kanye creating Wakanda for fat gospel singers with his Trap Goku phone case cellmates, fantasizing about being a badass peckerwood shotcaller, breaking bread with cartel members and plotting a prison riot. This is an exceedingly sad state of affairs and I don’t really know the way out for these guys, they seem to be sinking into a morass of crypto-socialist, rainbow coalition “family values”, due to their exposure to literal and cognitive lower castes. Is there any hope for them, or are they destined to become castrated lions like generations before?

[anthony]

I worked part time at a shipping company a few years ago. During the Christmas season I was out on a truck doing pickups with an older driver. We would load up thousands of packages into a rented box truck, drop it off at the warehouse, take out another, and repeat. The driver was a white man in his early 60s, ethnically Italian but several generations removed from the mother country, and an outspoken Trump supporter. He had paid for three children to attend college, owned his house outright, worked on classic cars as a hobby- all it took was decades of working two or three jobs at once, driving for the shipping company, a bread distributor, a garbage company, and the county on and off. I think that's realistically the best case for what can come out of that type of work; decades of sleep deprivation and a few workplace accidents followed by a few years of making sausage and fixing Chevelles and capped off with a heart attack and a Teamster survivors pension for the widow.

I think it's the best case for what could come of this. Now of course the schools will turn your daughter into a pooner (someone I know just told me that one about a co-worker) wages are depressed, everything is worse and more expensive, life just shits on you a bit harder on every level we don't track or quantify. What's shit about this guy's life is just the spiritual attrition, having it hard long term. Now it's just that much harder. How many of these guys starting where he did now have any chance of what he got?