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Has anyone made a thread on the cultural imapct of the Global War on Terror? Most people have aesthetics associated with “WW2” or “Vietnam” in their heads, since these wars left a large imprint on the collective memory, but the War on Terror seems to have a much weaker “aesthetic”. Graveler made a thread on TBC about GWOT biographies, so I think it is appropriate to make a thread on Amarna about GWOT culture. I'm not a veteran, but I know there are probably some on Amarna who could offer their perspectives.

Some things to consider
- New government agencies, focus on foreign dangers (TSA, DHS, Patriot Act)
- Veteran associated things (Toby Keith, Rip-Its, chewing tobacco)
- “Operator Culture”, Jocko, Goggins et al. on Joe Rogan
- birth of “tacticool” gun culture
- Milennials talking about how Iraq war protests influenced their worldview
- Beginning of drone warfare
- Malala Yousfazi
- Guantanamo Images

edit: if you say the word "Vietnam war", people can conjure up a mental image in their head of what it entailed, based off things like the anti-war movement, Vietnam inspired songs like "Fortunate Son", famous photos like protestors putting flowers in national guard guns, the execution of Nguyễn Văn Lém etc. Same goes for WW2. However, I feel like the GWOT had a lesser impact than these
blanched_chards Wrote:Most people have aesthetics associated with “WW2” or “Vietnam” in their heads, since these wars left a large imprint on the collective memory, but the War on Terror seems to have a much weaker “aesthetic”

I think the lack of "memorable aesthetic" to the GWOT is for two reasons:

1) The GWOT is divided into two eras: Bush-era and Obunga-era, where in the former was explicitly a War and the latter being explicitly Nation Building. These two are confused as the same thing, even though they were widely different. Early GWOT really had some of the most Kino aesthetics, but this is forgotten due to the distastefulness of the Obunga-era succession to the GWOT where it became less about "destroying our enemies" and more about "promoting democracy".

If things had ended in 2009, the GWOT would have been remembered similar to Vietnam in the popular mind in my opinion--We did it for the right reasons, even though it was bad--whereas the Nation Building projects of the Obongoid Administration are universally remembered as retarded (there's something to be said here about how communists destroy aesthetics).

2) The GWOT was a response to 9/11 instead of being a part of the wider threat of MAD, the Cold War, USSR, etc. The deployment and casualty numbers were much lower. It was just on a much smaller scale than Vietnam, and thus it had less of an impact on the popular imagination.

To illustrate my first point, look at the immense popularity of certain video games around that time. The CoD: Modern Warfare series (the kino first one and not the gay remake) follows special operators traversing the globe tracking down high level terrorists Al Assad (Ba'athist btw), Imran Zakhaev, Vladimir Makarov, etc. You are even betrayed by your commanding officer who is plotting to expand the war so he'll have "no shortage of volunteers". If this isn't illustrative of the general themes of the GWOT and of a similar betrayal the American people felt when the WMDs in Iraq ended up being nothing, I don't know what is.

You could even make a case for Halo: you're fighting a hyper-religious theocracy hellbent on the annihilation of Humanity, maybe an analog of radical Islamic terrorists? I don't think I'm reaching here, because there was a huge thematic shift between Halo: CE and Halo 2.

These are just a few examples, but it would be good to see someone make a full thread and hopefully this helps. It is an interesting topic that hasn't been explored fully, and has a direct impact on our lives today. I was thinking about turning this post into a thread but I haven't really thought it through enough; this post is just rambling at this point.
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A thread on intellectuals bend towards leftism. 

Everyone is probably familiar with this meme and it does seem to have some truth, but why? Well to understand you have to presupposed that the impulse towards intellect interest and intelligence isn’t actually that tight. Once you understand this all desires toward restructuring society in a communistic/socialist fashion makes sense. Essentially what I’m saying is that certain people inherently want to live an intellectual lifestyle. They like the appeal and the ease of it. It also helps if they’re kinda midwits as they gauge their deservingness of that lifestyle higher. Thus they don’t want the harsh capitalists societies but rather essentially a bloated theocracy where economy is subservient to an intellectual overclass. I should also note now that those of an intellectual personality have a weaker drive to material wealth than more materialist people. This means their less concerned with personal wealth. Now what society achieved what I just described? The Soviet Union. Therefore you can understand why their inherent nature would make them bend towards socialist utopias. It’s just a reflection of their interests. 

But this is mediocracy. The more intelligent person with an intellectual bend is actually offended by these systems of extensive bureaucracies because they value a class and not individuals, meaning individual efforts. This means the genius cannot distinguish himself. therefore he seeks meritocracy. Thus the smarter intellectual personality is a right-winger. 

Someone make this thread real and I’ll effort post in it.
Continued posted on intellectuals. 

Plato Wrote:There are three classes of men: lovers of wisdom, lovers of honour, lovers of gain

Lovers of wisdom might stroke connotations of free-thinking trail-blazers, but are not the words of Christ wise? Or the Buddha or even Mohammed. The truth is that to the intellectually prone doctrine and dogma are as worthy pursuits as self discovery. And on top of that dogma and doctrine are easier to learn. Thus seeing as midwits are more common than topwits this means that intellectuals as a group are more prone to learning dogma and doctrine than free-thinking. But the popular dogma changes with the times. In the medieval ages the intellectual would have been driven towards the Catholic Church. Around the early 20th century he would’ve sympathized with communists and socialists. And in the early 21st century the midwit intellectual writes books like these: 
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Have you not heard a libtard profess their gratitude towards becoming educated in the faith of kill whity? How they view learning about how white people are evil as both great and true knowledge? Woke is the new dogma and intellectuals are ever willing to lap it up.
A proper thread on Milei. Libertarianism in practice, differences between him and Trump, what has he actually managed to do - maybe it's too early though as the fruits of his work will judge him later.
He’s already done more than Trump. America First failed; it’s just Stormfront for 12 year old Mexicans now.
BillyONare Wrote:He’s already done more than Trump. America First failed; it’s just Stormfront for 12 year old Mexicans now.

LOL and you were the resident Latinxolas Fuentes worshipper. It's truly over for LatinoAmerica first ahahha
I am good friends with Nick Fuentes and still admire him, however I can't get behind the anti-semitic content slop. It's retarded. You can like things without "worshipping" them. You would fit right in in AF with your black and white BPD femalish thinking.
"Admire" is excessive. @BillyONare
I admire what I admire and I’m honest about it. No need to be longhoused by people who haven’t listened to a single episode of AF. “Imagine if a cool nigger (amarnite type) knew you liked Nick Fuentes”.
Competency crisis - the controversy about DEI in the airline industry and its possible negative consequences has been discussed on social media for some time now, but what made me write about the crisis was the recent bridge collapse in Baltimore.
Plumber discourse - this topic came up in the shoutbox some time ago. What should people displaced by affirmative action (and other similarly destructive policies) from desired workplaces and schools do? Plumbing in particular came to my mind because of the story of an Asian applicant, who was rejected from several universities because of affirmative action, and who was then "advised" on twitter by some mainstream conservatard to become a plumber, as that is a useful skill too (I can't find the tweet, but it was something in that vein).
Marrying liberal - some (e.g. 0HPL) argue that women claiming to be conservative and right-wing are attention-whores, or are just undesirable in general, as "normal" women follow what is popular, and the thing to do is to marry a liberal girl and made her follow you. This idea has been discussed here, but maybe a dedicated thread could advance the topic further.
isotope Wrote:Competency crisis - the controversy about DEI in the airline industry and its possible negative consequences has been discussed on social media for some time now, but what made me write about the crisis was the recent bridge collapse in Baltimore.
Plumber discourse - this topic came up in the shoutbox some time ago. What should people displaced by affirmative action (and other similarly destructive policies) from desired workplaces and schools do? Plumbing in particular came to my mind because of the story of an Asian applicant, who was rejected from several universities because of affirmative action, and who was then "advised" on twitter by some mainstream conservatard to become a plumber, as that is a useful skill too (I can't find the tweet, but it was something in that vein).
Marrying liberal - some (e.g. 0HPL) argue that women claiming to be conservative and right-wing are attention-whores, or are just undesirable in general, as "normal" women follow what is popular, and the thing to do is to marry a liberal girl and made her follow you. This idea has been discussed here, but maybe a dedicated thread could advance the topic further.

Seconding Plumber Discourse thread. Conservitard tradebro memery is going to dissuade many intelligent young men from the Right (why join a movement when the only prospect is unclogging literal shit from toilets), and theorizing an alternate path could be interesting, at the very least.
BillyONare Wrote:I am good friends with Nick Fuentes and still admire him, however I can't get behind the anti-semitic content slop. It's retarded. You can like things without "worshipping" them. You would fit right in in AF with your black and white BPD femalish thinking.

Sorry haha but I hate all political movements. The amarnitical revolution shan't be televised, as they say.
BillyONare Wrote:I admire what I admire and I’m honest about it. No need to be longhoused by people who haven’t listened to a single episode of AF. “Imagine if a cool nigger (amarnite type) knew you liked Nick Fuentes”.

Interestingly enough (I'm the guy you said had "BPD" thinking) I remember watching a Fuentes speech that was incredibly entertaining to an audience of black women in a snowy environment. One of the groids in the audience didn't know Spain was in Europe, and I have not been able to find that video in years. He was wearing a black trenchcoat and this is back when he was basically just /pol/ the person and had a very youthful, non puffy face; as in, before the cRap obsession.
I must have been 11 or so, back in the late 2010s.
Personally, I am averse to your views of admiration because he's a fuckin latinx grifter lol. But I do remember some of his old shenanigans and antics and remember being entertained by them hehe.
Nowadays the only good thing about him is that he steals money from the credit cards of little latino children who want to be "based" and insults them to their face when they talk about being plumbers or something other kek. Still never going to watch an episode of LatinosFirst hahahahaha fuck that!
The "plumbers can muh make six figures" meme is true, thoughever really they mean pipefitters i.e. they don't unclog toilets, they install build piping for factories, malls, oil refineries, schools, skyscrapers, etc. These are projects that require tens of thousands of man hours and I imagine this is actually what most plumbers/pipefitters do, the proportion of hours these projects take dwarfs how many hours it takes to clean the cum and pubic hair out of your shower drain. You guys have a delusional view of the world because things like oil refineries is not something you have to think about, and that's why it's a great industry. Construction is like an alternate universe without black people, women, affirmative action, liberals, etc. It's very meritocratic. You can jump straight to a management role if you're smart, but if not, being a grunt is a good way to make a lot of money fast, which you should do, because bitcoin exists and you should buy bitcoin and a house etc. Easy path to become wealthy. These companies have no social media presence, no prestige, typically privately owned, despite what a great opportunity they are, and they like it that way because they can play fast and loose with laws and regulations. So you have to do some research or know a guy or just start out as a union grunt and look for the highest paying jobs in the middlest of nowhere.
It's the same thing for electricians, HVAC, and more specialty trades that you wouldn't even think about like instrumentation (input and output devices on piping to control and monitor an oil refinery or chemical/pharmaceutical plant for example), and fire alarm/sprinkler systems (these are quite complex and expensive but absolutely needed because regulations on these are very strict). Try to get a job from a family member or friend that works in construction. The economy that exists in your mind where being a banker, doctor, or lawyer is the best way to make money is an illusion. There is far more money and meritocratic opportunity for advancement in professions that are needed to produce things necessary for civilization. You just don't know about it because there is no prestige. Real life is a secret club, but it is also easy to join and advance in based on your talents, just like The Amarna Forum.



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