Thread Ideas
#1
Threads you want to make or would be interested in seeing, that you can't or won't make yourself right now for whatever reason. To be held and discussed here, maybe even draft OPs here if you like. I just think putting this kind of thing up somewhere will help us hold potentially good ideas and get more threads made.




Me first, I'm sitting on an idea.

- Jewish Guilt and the Weight of Nuremberg

I've been thinking about Ari Folman lately after someone linked me something about his latest film. The work that's really on my mind is his 'Waltz With Bashir'. I talk a lot about how modern and especially leftist art is crippled by an aversion to human nature and things we all naturally like. A lot of talk about how Jews did this, yeah, they largely did, not as much about how this effects Jews. Both in politics and existential matters (which I've written about before), and especially not in the popular arts and media.

The way I'd like to frame this thread and discussion is the idea that the Jews did not get away with WW2. They did things that were genuinely repugnant to the human spirit and because they are also in fact human like us the weight of these acts is punishing them and their descendants. Probably more through chance an opportunism the jews found themselves in a position of attempting to eat their cake and have it. The cake being natural human pathos. With Nuremberg, their coup de grace against the Axis, they effectively declared a new world order in which coherent existential politics were redefined as a form of homicidal insanity. They then immediately formed a nation state and started pursuing coherent existential politics. I believe that the defensive nature of earlier Israeli conflicts and the generally put upon and trying state of the thing made it easy to ignore the dissonance in the Jewish worldview. Also this worldview was less defined and formed. Holocaustianity was not quite a religion yet. They did not define themselves as and draw virtue from identifying as meek victim. They were too busy growing and surviving. If anybody raised "are we evil" ideas back then it would have been easy to ignore.

But by the time of the Lebanon War in which Ari Folman was a participant, things had changed. Jews were now becoming Holocaust victims. Understanding themselves as victims of grievous moral wrongs. And Israel was no longer a struggling underdog in a frantic battle for mere survival. It had become a regional power. It was secure, and its actions no longer felt readily classificable as fighting to live. Now it was about power. Of course nobody is truly safe in the world, and there are perfectly coherent and justifiable cases to be made for things like Israel's intervention in Lebanon. Coherent to people like us, that is. If you have seriously internalised the Nuremberg world-picture, it's not so simple. Or rather, it's simple in the other direction. No. You are stronger, you need to be the adult in the room and suffer this. Violent self-assertion against the world is evil. I'm sure at the time plenty of Jews could still pull a "try not to think too hard about it" with themselves and others, many probably didn't have sophisticated moral pictures of the world at all, but several also unfortunately did. Ari Folman obviously being one. The man was a real soldier, fought in real battles, but he's also an artist. Made of more sensitive stuff. He can't let this kind of thing be. He's too active on the inside. The dilemma one hits, which seems central to Folman's work as a filmmaker, is that apparent necessities of self interest and force need to be reconciled with history. There are two ways about this, and to Israel's misfortune, Folman, and most sensitive Israelis, seems to have taken the leftward path. To square Israel's existence with history, history must be favoured. The sanctity of Nuremberg is upheld. Israel must yield meekly in the face of hostility and aggression from without, lest it become the monster it survived the wrath of in the 20th century.

To make the subject more timely I also wanted to discuss the career of Neil Druckmann, a man who despite commercial and (((critical))) success is completely incapable of tapping into any serious human pathos in his work. I don't want to continue drafting this OP now, but this was another direction on my mind. Also I want to write about John Milius, for obvious reasons ("There is only one Nazi on this team. I'm the Nazi.") and Stanley Kubrick (Full Metal Jacket is one of my favourite films, but Spartacus, Paths of Glory, and Clockwork Orange would also be relevant).

Before making this thread I'd like to see Waltz With Bashir again and read some stuff about Folman, and also God help me I may have to buy The Last of Us 2. For sociological purposes I may make this sacrifice.




If you have thoughts on this thread concept, cool, let me know, but don't reply here. This thread I intend to only be for OP concepts and drafts. If you really want to talk about this, encourage me to write the rest.
#2
I was going to do a whole series of Post Victory threads about the challenges of governing a worldwide empire and overseeing TNWD policies. Most users seem to be just ironic right-leaning liberals, though, so it's more appropriate for a more explicitly NatSoc realm of discussion.
#3
Taoism and Neo-Taoism {The Grail}

I was going to talk about Taoism as is and then led onto Neo-Taoism and how Reverend Insanity reconciled with the Faustian spirit. I like the main points of Taoism but the perfect Taoist is a retarded Cripple(not hyperbole).

 Reverend Insanity fixes this by applying all the same concepts with the same end goal(immortality) but without exiling the practitioner to Obscurity and Irrelevance.

Fang yuan is the Faustian spirit, and through this he achieves the highest form of beauty from the highest love, Perfect Action. The highest form of beauty achievable by Taoism is the Effortless Action, but Neo-Taoism transcends this to a higher form of Beauty, Perfect Action.

Taoism is about a return to the perfect ancient humanity that still remained in the memory of Chinese civilization at the time of Laotzu, Neo-Taoism transcends this on Perfecting modern man and his nature. The Perfect man created by Neo-Taoism takes the defect Taoism sought to get rid of and raises it to the state of perfection, leading to the concept of Perfect Action.

This is merely the Germ of what the real thread would look like.
#4
- A Lord of the Rings (or really a Middle-earth thread), discussing how the mythology of Middle-earth provides a neutral "composite" mythology for the entirety of Western civilisation to draw upon. I think Tolkein's work is the most likely to survive due to its archetypal and mythopoetic nature - Harry Potter has 10 years max to stay relevant and Star Wars only survives because of its space-faring themes that call to Faustian expansion, and also an American need to look to the future, which I don't believe makes up for its shoddy story telling born out of an ad hoc trilogy and schizoprhenic writing process (a multitude of authors), which can't compare to the uniformity and consistency that lays in Tolkein's work (which at most has 3 writers).
- A thread on the characteristics of the Anglosphere, and how its two pillars, America and England, form it. Or even if America is a separate civilisation.
#5
(03-09-2023, 10:23 PM)Verl Wrote: - A Lord of the Rings (or really a Middle-earth thread), discussing how the mythology of Middle-earth provides a neutral "composite" mythology for the entirety of Western civilisation to draw upon. I think Tolkein's work is the most likely to survive due to its archetypal and mythopoetic nature - Harry Potter has 10 years max to stay relevant and Star Wars only survives because of its space-faring themes that call to Faustian expansion, and also an American need to look to the future, which I don't believe makes up for its shoddy story telling born out of an ad hoc trilogy and schizoprhenic writing process (a multitude of authors), which can't compare to the uniformity and consistency that lays in Tolkein's work (which at most has 3 writers).

I wrote an essay for myself on how Tolkien and Lovecraft represent two strains of Western right-wing thought, the traditionalist and the Nietzschean. If you made this thread I would repost it there. I do absolutely agree that Tolkien is an important writer in a way few others are, and I think he has laid the foundation for the spirituality and culture of the genuinely post-leftist (as in the leftists are all dead & buried) West of tomorrow.
#6
(03-10-2023, 08:04 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote:
(03-09-2023, 10:23 PM)Verl Wrote: - A Lord of the Rings (or really a Middle-earth thread), discussing how the mythology of Middle-earth provides a neutral "composite" mythology for the entirety of Western civilisation to draw upon. I think Tolkein's work is the most likely to survive due to its archetypal and mythopoetic nature - Harry Potter has 10 years max to stay relevant and Star Wars only survives because of its space-faring themes that call to Faustian expansion, and also an American need to look to the future, which I don't believe makes up for its shoddy story telling born out of an ad hoc trilogy and schizoprhenic writing process (a multitude of authors), which can't compare to the uniformity and consistency that lays in Tolkein's work (which at most has 3 writers).

I wrote an essay for myself on how Tolkien and Lovecraft represent two strains of Western right-wing thought, the traditionalist and the Nietzschean. If you made this thread I would repost it there. I do absolutely agree that Tolkien is an important writer in a way few others are, and I think he has laid the foundation for the spirituality and culture of the genuinely post-leftist (as in the leftists are all dead & buried) West of tomorrow.

I don't feel I can authoritatively discuss Tolkien until I have at least read the Silmarillion in full, but do please send me that essay.

I have imagined a few 'idioms' that could be used if Tolkein knowledge was more widespread, for example:
"He's gone sailing west" could mean both an act of betrayal or just a foolish, pointless endeavour.
Describing someone as an "Ent" could be a more endearing form of "involuntary celibate"
#7
Elliot Rodgers: My Twisted World

A thread talking about his book.

I think it should be read as a novel. It’s a Way better story than any of the books I was forced to read in school. Should it be an American classic? I mean the book was no masterpiece but with what is regarded as literature in America today(To Kill a Mockingbird, Fahrenheit 451, ect.) I think it deserves a place in it. 

He’s an Aryan soul trapped in a Chinamans body.(but did him killing his two Chinese roommates allow him to ascend to Valhalla?) He’s a deeply flawed character, a failed normie only trying to fit in and be accepted; but the harder he tries in this endeavor the more his estrangement with mankind grows. An embittered individual who only wants to be accepted—but Is only met with hostility and contempt. 

The whole lottery part was hard to read, he was so desperate in holding on to anything that might help him find a place within that social world in which he was coldly expelled from. How much blame was on his father for his weak upbringing that led to his estrangement in middle school? 
His vision for the world at the end of the book, could that have been feasible? Even if not, it was highly entertaining.

Although I can’t really relate to him, he has my pity. :’(
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(03-10-2023, 10:16 PM)Guest Wrote: Elliot Rodgers: My Twisted World

A thread talking about his book.

I think it should be read as a novel. It’s a Way better story than any of the books I was forced to read in school. Should it be an American classic? I mean the book was no masterpiece but with what is regarded as literature in America today(To Kill a Mockingbird, Fahrenheit 451, ect.) I think it deserves a place in it. 

He’s an Aryan soul trapped in a Chinamans body.(but did him killing his two Chinese roommates allow him to ascend to Valhalla?) He’s a deeply flawed character, a failed normie only trying to fit in and be accepted; but the harder he tries in this endeavor the more his estrangement with mankind grows. An embittered individual who only wants to be accepted—but Is only met with hostility and contempt. 

The whole lottery part was hard to read, he was so desperate in holding on to anything that might help him find a place within that social world in which he was coldly expelled from. How much blame was on his father for his weak upbringing that led to his estrangement in middle school? 
His vision for the world at the end of the book, could that have been feasible? Even if not, it was highly entertaining.

Although I can’t really relate to him, he has my pity. :’(

anyone saying a non-white is only a "white soul" trapped goes into the garbage.
#9
A word of warning RE: disrespecting the Supreme Gentleman...
#10
(03-10-2023, 10:40 PM)Verl Wrote: anyone saying a non-white is only a "white soul" trapped goes into the garbage.
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His father, by Elliot’s own claims, was from an English noble family that had fallen out in the 30s. His mother was an island chinaman woman(who apparently fucked George Lucas, what were these guys thinking?)
From his writing I don’t think it goes too far to say he inherited some of his personality from his White side, but his mixed race nature puts him at odds with it. 

I only say “white soul trapped” because of him being mixed race, I’m not looking at random Arabs or injuns and fantasizing about their noble souls trapped in the corrupt brown body. “See, see, they’re  just like White people but with brown skin! *Soyfaces*” (that’s not me, it’s soyjak)
#11
there should be a SQTDDTOT
I wanted to ask if anybody knows what happened to Jonathan Bowden at the end of his life when he apparently had a mental breakdown and got admitted to a mental hospital, if this is true or they admitted him forcibly to subdue him
#12
1. California: Hippies, Serial Killers, and Rationalists - I mostly wish to write on the modern rationalist movement and the emergent cult formations around it; but it seems worthwhile to frame it more broadly, because of the emergent parallels with the hippies. There is a tremendous amount of interesting anthropological questions about these communities, particularly relating to the millenarian tendencies of AI Safety/Alignment individuals such as Eliezer 'Schlomo' Yudkowsky, and others.

2. The Power Of Silence - One of my test theses concerning a lot of modern dysfunction, particularly relating to normie sexuality, is not necessarily due to the direct reforms of the sexual revolution. Rather, the dysfunction is directly tied to the fact that discussions about sex and sexuality are no longer publicly taboo or even seen as uncouth/lowly. Two different approaches to this: Either loosely following Bataille's Erotism: Death and Sensuality and understanding what the 'mundaning' (rather than profaning) the sacred means on a practice level. Alternatively, approaching it from an SMV pseudo-economic perspective, and looking at how normie discussions of sex leads directly lead to sexual market expectation distortions.

3. Fetish Typology - Awhile back, I wrote a sequence of 4chan shitposts proposing a typology of sexual fetishes and thoughts on the their formation: Roughly a root trichotomy of Human/Object/Experiential, each breaking down into subcategories. The goal was to understand how exactly eroticism psychologically manifests in fetishes, and how shifts occur. Eg, a tranny is generally more likely to have other transformation fetishes (such... as being made into a furry). A woman who fantasies about being mind-raped is likely to have other corruption fetishes (such as being made into a vampire). Et cetera. Although fetishes are often highly specific, the underlying erotic features can and do generalize. The greater goal is to gain insight on the nature of eros itself via an examination of it's pathologies.
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(03-13-2023, 01:31 AM)Zed Wrote: 1. California: Hippies, Serial Killers, and Rationalists - I mostly wish to write on the modern rationalist movement and the emergent cult formations around it; but it seems worthwhile to frame it more broadly, because of the emergent parallels with the hippies. There is a tremendous amount of interesting anthropological questions about these communities, particularly relating to the millenarian tendencies of AI Safety/Alignment individuals such as Eliezer 'Schlomo' Yudkowsky, and others.

Would Charles Manson Pertain to this topic, or would taking about him in the thread be non-Germane?
#14
I think it would be a perfect thread to talk about him in. The rationalist movement has manifested similar dark splinters recently... Eg, https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-commun...c100180509

Related: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/ea...d/3079258/
#15
The Snyder study into artificially induced savantism. The theory is that savant-like ability is inhibited by the function of the left anterior temporal lobe, which is responsible for mental schema and heuristics that put your brain in autopilot rather than constantly working from the "raw data" that only savants have "privileged access" to. In the study, they took normal people and temporarily disabled this part of their brain with magnetic stimulation and tested them on things relating to the access of this "raw data". Tests include things like flashing a picture of dozens of objects at someone and having them count them, or spotting typos like duplicated words in familiar phrases ("the early bird catches the the worm"). Results were very promising but there were never any follow-up studies.

I didn't make a thread because I have zero background knowledge in neuroscience or biology of any sort and I have no idea if there is any merit to this study. For all I know it could be a Redditor-bait midwit trap that is known to be full of shit. The sample size is very small, after all. However, I find it strange that nobody followed up on it. Nobody really had a good reason either, except of course for concerns over the long-term safety of pointing magnets at people's heads to turn parts of their brain off. I also found it to be a possible explanation of a few extremely vivid dreams I've had in my life that seemed to have impossible levels of detail. Maybe DMT art as well.
#16
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[url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations]Franklin child prostitution ring allegations




Quote:In 1988, authorities looked into allegedly baseless allegations that prominent citizens of Nebraska, as well as high-level U.S. politicians, were involved in a child prostitution ring. Alleged abuse victims were interviewed, who claimed that children in foster care were flown to the East Coast of the United States to be sexually abused at "bad parties". The claims primarily centered on Lawrence E. King Jr., who ran the now defunct Franklin Community Federal Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and alleged that the ring was "a cult of devil worshipers involved in the mutilation, sacrifice and cannibalism of numerous children". Numerous conspiracy theories evolved, claiming that the alleged abuse was part of a widespread series of crimes including devil worship, cannibalism, drug trafficking, and CIA arms dealing.


Real, it was real but was able to be covered up. This can no longer happen in Internet age, well with deepfakes now maybe…
#17
I think someone should make a thread about the russian question,is Russia a reliable ally against Global nigger communism?,is Russia the Keyed state?,will they save the West from wokeness?
#18
“Probably not.”
#19
(03-16-2023, 07:31 PM)Guest Wrote: I think someone should make a thread about the russian question,is Russia a reliable ally against Global nigger communism?,is Russia the Keyed state?,will they save the West from wokeness?

I would expand that to a being a thread about the conceptual queen of such thoughts on Russia and elsewhere:Multi-polarity.
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“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel
#20
“Libtarded” Anime

I can think of a few series that possess the Qualities making them eligible to be Classified as “Libtarded” but I was Specifically thinking of Heroic Age.
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All of the Characters made me Apoplectic. Age is the Hero possessing the Power of the Nodos, he is Pure and Childlike lacking any selfishness or ambition. The Princess is the lodestone of Humanity, filled with Empathy for all life but not enough for her own People. Comparing her with Mitsurugi Meiya from Muv-Luv Alternative and her failings as a Princess become Apparent.

I might Write a more in depth Analysis of Heroic Age later but if anyone wants to make “Libtarded” Anime a thread go ahead.



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