Touching Grass

[Guest]

The limiting factor for most of (You) is no friends and no money. This is why 4chan hates women and drug use, but loves solitary activities like animre, vidya, old books, and porn

[YoImOrbit]

Ya'll are lame, get some bitches

Nigger

[Promise-Ring]

Many actual monks, living in actual monasteries, are still well remembered thousands of years after for their death for contributions to literature, writing, history, art, mathematics, etc. Can you say the same, or is your "monastery" just a lolicon gooncave? Will you be able to say you left something of importance behind? If so, I suppose there's nothing wrong with NEET monasticism. But it must at least be something on the order of "The Collected notes of Anon on 17th c. European tea culture" rather than "Anon's trashcan of sticky tissues".

The heart of the issue is that people with the full power of the internet and naturally following that, access to the full library of contemporary Japanese Art they ostensibly love so much... aren't doing anything worthwhile with their time.

But it goes much, much further than that. There is a general problem of... Seeing what one wants to see. To a degree that is completely divorced from reality, in even the most intelligent of humans. For example: Tibet.



Wow... so stunning! A kingdom where the mountains reach the land of the Gods! So pretty, so holy, such brave people. Europeans of the 20th, 19th, and even 18th century certainly agreed, I'm sure we all know of Himmler's and other prominent Germans of the time interest in Tibet. Between the dirty China and India (both of which were also fascinated by Tibet), Tibet must have seemed more comparable to the civilizations of Europe than their neighbors, or perhaps even something of a more ancient type. That was... until they went there.

"Dirt, dirt, grease, smoke. Misery, but good mutton."

heaped up . . . to the first floor windows. In the middle of the street runs a stinking channel, which thaws daily. In it, horns and bones and skulls of every beast eaten or not eaten by the Tibetans lie till the dogs and ravens have picked them clean. The stench is fearful. A curdled and foul torrent flows, in the daytime, through the market place. The men and women have never washed themselves . . . and the disgust of all this is heightened by the everlasting snows of Chomolhari – a huge wedge of argent a mile high.

Inside the Jokhang there was a great orange crush of monks. Some were suffocating and had to be passed to safety over the heads of the others. Schäfer claimed that when they were not praying and chanting inside the holy sites, the monks indulged in every excess: drinking, smoking, gambling and arranging orgies with Lhasa’s prostitutes. All over the city fires were lit on street corners to cook tsampa, and thestreets became slippery with excrement.

"After his experience in east Tibet, where gonorrhoea and syphilis were endemic, Schäfer had made sure that Beger carried treatments for venereal disease, and he would discover that even monks would be in need of this particular service."

"Beger realized they were all suffering from untreated gonorrhoea; the symptoms were unmistakable. ‘Even celibate monks’, Beger noted in his diary, ‘could not control their natural desires.’ It was ‘like a plague’, he said. Most of his patients called a venereal infection the ‘Chinese Disease’; monks claimed they acquired it by ‘sitting in long grass’. Traditional medicine had no remedy for venereal infections, although marijuana was sometimes used."

From Shöl, the Germans crossed the Yuto Sampa or ‘Turquoise Bridge’ with its crowds of beggars, and after that a wasteland heaped with piles of refuse. Schäfer saw small pigs rooting in mounds of excrement or gnawing on discarded bones and rotten horses’ heads. Nearby they found the Post and Telegraph Office which had been built inside the ruined Tengye-ling Monastery, destroyed after its abbot had sided with the Chinese in 1912. From there they skirted the only, and unused, public latrine in Lhasa

Schäfer had discovered for himself that it was a scurrilous fairy tale that Tibetans never washed, but although he admitted ‘I myself love the odour of yak dung more than anything’

"We had to pay a high price for some rancid butter and maggoty meat."
"They were nice, friendly people, and they invited us to share their fire and drink a cup of rancid butter tea with them."
"butter tea, which is usually made with rancid butter and is generally repugnant to Europeans. It is, however, universally drunk and appreciated by the Tibetans, who often drink as many as sixty cups in a day."
"The thick gray walls of the buildings have an age-old appearance, and the overpowering smell of rancid butter and unwashed monks has sunk deep into the stonework."
“Wherever I live, I shall feel homesick for Tibet. I often think I can still hear the cries of wild geese and cranes and the beating of their wings as they fly over Lhasa in the clear, cold moonlight. My heartfelt wish is that my story may create some understanding for a people whose will to live in peace and freedom has won so little sympathy from an indifferent world.”

"Venereal Disease is very common in Tibet"

These tacitly white-supremacist men don't sound so different from white libtards defending mexicans roasting whole chickens above oil drum fires on the street. Of course this kind of thing is much worse today, white people having to fight against their own sight and nature at home and under threat of being cast out of society creates so much pressure that people just break. But in both cases, the delusion is stronger than reality and persists regardless of the truth.

Almost everybody I see is a drug-addict. These people seem very happy with how they spend their free time. I was surprised at how thin much of the population is but very few of them look healthy. Touching grass here becomes an exercise in averting your eyes to everything their ideology creates on the way to the neon rain forest themed cafe and some dressed up third worlder street food.

The distance 1930's Europeans had from Tibet allowed them to keep both their values and their delusions in tact. Now 1930's Tibet has come to us, and the delusion must be confronted by all. The pressure and stress this creates is so extreme that a large portion of the delusions born from this confrontation are delusions about whether the confrontation has happened at all! You can touch all the grass you want, but if you don't want to see, then you can feel however way you choose.

Right, getting back on topic. Pigsaw's comment about needing to go outside was aimed at what he saw as the gay, soy, and cringe version of a self professed "Loli Gooner" (his advice to that sort would not be substantially different). Bearded Americans see Jrpgs as miniature Dungeons and Dragons campaigns made by faceless nobodys for the sake of facilitating endless, unimportant pleasure. The "Loli Gooner" may not have an understanding of these things as divorced from reality as beard guy, but in both cases an idiotic media-illiterate person is seeing their own idiotic selves in things that have nothing to do with them. This sort of thing must be mercilessly attacked. The fate of the world lies in Contemporary Japanese media, not Tibet. Those with any appreciation at all for the treasures of Japan are burning away their lives by misunderstanding them, and by extension what little ✰Ultra-Power✰ still remains in the west.




Some understand.

Proclaiming "Loligooner" (the people who describe themselves as such are "NEETS" (retarded term) that don't really view their time or what they spend it on as valuable) as a desirable end state to one's life, even in this world, is a knee-jerk response to our only decent remaining compromise being under siege. The logic is something like this: Libtards have closed off the few dignified paths in outside world that remained. If you let them reach into your room and drag you away from your last bit of luxury, that is a total surrender.

This is true, but just letting them back us into a corner and acting only in defense of the little we have might as well be total surrender. The "Loli Gooner", "NEET" anime fan, however this type is described, is someone who never truly accepted the outside world's delusions. In the more extreme cases you'll find around places like this it's someone who never stopped being angry and who is actively trying to resist the delusions of the outside world. If you stop being angry and "touch grass" in the original sense of the term, you're giving up on your higher nature to embrace the distorted delusions of the world. But this is an identity based on defeat and ceding ground. Even if it's completely heroic compared to demanding immediate subsaharan living standards it isn't the stance of someone with a chance at winning.

And our anger at the world isn't just a palliative, it's counterproductive. Settling into "thinking the right way", "doing the right thing", "being the correct person" is an instant wall in the way of thinking yourself into a better direction. It's like drop-shipping Southeast Asians thinking they've figured out life because they go to the gym and track their Bad Habits.



Anyways, as for what was specifically meant by the original quote (which nobody in this thread seems to have actually addressed). There is an issue of looking at art, specifically Video Games in a tunnel-sighted provincial way. Which destroys your hope at true appreciation. The masters of video games have always understood this:



Someone who appreciates Baseball is going to use games as a way of channeling this already existing appreciation. Think about Gardening. Miyamoto would have have never made Pikmin if he didn't know what a leaf looked like, or the feeling of being surrounded by them, or had repeated exposure to a garden and developed his appreciation. Even if your only interest is "time-wasting forevertoys" or "Storytelling" (Boring killyourself) then there are still things outside of video games that necessarily existed for Video Games to be something with those elements. You should look at games as just one, very very appealing nice thing you can spend your time with. Why choose one thing with no business whatsoever being isolated, and isolate yourself to it? Are you some kind of beaten conditioned slave mistaking his way out for a nicer punishment?

Teaware, Firearms, Mustelids. The world is still filled with many fine objects. We have 3D technology, Video Games are the best possible way to build on the appreciation we should have. We can realize and do so many things and covet them like the treasures they are. If your world isn't filled with fine things, if you don't even know what those fine things are... how can you ever understand how this art you like was created or truly appreciate it? How can you ever hope to create anything yourself if you live like a pig? If this doesn't make sense to you, try watching Anthony's latest video on the subject. Even if you can appreciate the media you consume, are you able to think about the vision, feelings, fascinations, tendencies of the creator(s) or team divorced form the work itself? If not, then you're simply experiencing the joy of your own delusion over and over again instead.



Most people reading this are from the west, a place that gave up on civilization in 1945. How many people in your country were cultivated since birth to understand and appreciate art and luxury? Probably none. Chances are you were anti-cultivated since birth to be retarded and were saved from the pits of nothingness by the internet. The baseline in America is people made of cornmeal (not much better in Europe), in Japan the baseline is a Japanese person. We are fighting this final battle at an 89° incline. Everything we can possibly gather is required to shatter the distorted delusions haunting so many eyes. We will become fully unleashed, and by the end of this the filthy masses will look on as if we were cultivated in another world entirely!

[Guest]

Those who insist upon saying "Touch grass" or more simply "Be normal" are oblivious to the total breakdown in societal/cultural conventions of 'Normalcy'. What does it mean to be normal in 2024? A low amount of screen time? That already cuts out the majority of young people, unable to focus without opening their Instagram/Tiktok. Is it not holding extreme views? By the standards of the century before us even the most moderate normie would be considered a radical due to gay nigger communist conditioning. 2020 saw the last vestiges of true normalcy, by objective standards at least wiped out in the Anglophone world, for the true meaning of 'Normalcy' has been made quite clear. To be 'Normal' by libtard standards is to be complacent, to submit to the longhouse, to love niggers, and to not engage with any of nasty extreme ideas. 

Another way to look at this is that older libtards who grew up before the sanitisation of the education system were frequently shamed for their depraved behaviour or perhaps even for showing 'Chuddish' sympathies, internalising it as they have with tropes such as 'shoving nerds into lockers' and the like. The phrase itself "Touch grass" would not seem out of place coming from a fictional bully character. 

Clearly, there is definitely a distinction between the ideologues who push this language and the normies who merely go along with it. To take an example of a society genuinely driven by conventions of normalcy (More correctly referred to as etiquette and manners) Victorian Britain saw a strictly enforced class system, men having total control over women, and colonial attitudes on non-Whites as the savages they are. Take the modern libtard and place him in this era, would he feel so confident in telling everyone he meets "Dude, you're so out of touch with how the world works, like touch grass and educate yourself... or something..." Any worldview that requires you to disregard the advancements made by your ancestors across centuries is insane and incompetent. Normies on the other hand, would most likely integrate with such views within days if not hours of arriving there. If only the trads were so impressionable.

[Guest]

Ya'll are lame, get some bitches

YWNBAW odontalgia.

[Guest]

What you all should do is find some way to make money, either crypto or a good job because then you wouldn’t need to cope like this.

They're telling you to 'go get some fuggin pussy bro' because 'you're a loser incel chud' and the Coolest Nigger Alive would definitely laugh at you.

What does this have to do with niggers? Would people not act like this in the absence of blacks? It’s an easy comeback because no one who’s online all the time has any friends. It isn’t fair but it’s accurate.

[a system is failing]

What does this have to do with niggers? Would people not act like this in the absence of blacks? It’s an easy comeback because no one who’s online all the time has any friends. It isn’t fair but it’s accurate.

People on this website have an actual social group, you're just a nameless rando barging into our circle. But of course when I point that out it "doesn't count because they're just other lowstatusdysgenics like yourself". IRL I have kept my friends from school as long as I could, but over the years people move and unless you're playing online games with them you stop seeing them very much. The ones I have kept I am still close with. One of them even lives with me for close to a year now. Zero problems. Whereas I've known many normies who brag about moving out or getting some apartment with their friends only to begin hating them completely within a few months. Obviously making friends after highschool has been a complete wash, I've had far too many situations where normgroids at work WANT to be friends with me but I don't like them or relate to them so I have to be distant.

I think it's time for people like you to just shut the fuck up. I am constantly being told by your kind that I am LE AUTISTIC and I can't make LE EYE CONTACT and that I have bad manners or people can't stand me and I can't take care of myself but it's literally all just nonsense. You accuse us of these things because we are abnormally HEALTHY and LUCID in comparison to the average (including yourself). It's easy to flip this on us because YOUR strategy is to go into denial, we at least have the balls to recognize and confront mounting dysfunction, and in response to that you do this shit you think is oh so clever where you lie and pretend societal perfection has actually been achieved and we only complain because we don't get to be part of Perfect Nigger Communist society. Obviously, you're a pussy so you won't be caught dead saying anything socially unacceptable, but you can just stop talking and let us do all the hard work instead of this flailing cope.

And your point about money has already been discussed for 2+ years now. Literally nothing new or substantial has been added by your post. In fact all you have done is tie it up with typical normgroid approval-seeking mindset.

[august]

What a great example of being a Guest.

[Guest]

I am constantly being told by your kind that I am LE AUTISTIC and I can't make LE EYE CONTACT and that I have bad manners or people can't stand me and I can't take care of myself but it's literally all just nonsense.

I didn’t say any of this, I asked questions and presented arguments, and you responded with soyrage.

[a system is failing]

I didn’t say any of this, I asked questions and presented arguments, and you responded with soyrage.

What arguments? That people online have no friends? I have friends, here's an explanation of what my experience with friends is, and how you're wrong. There. Argument addressed. Oh wait, I'm soyraging now for doing that? Yea, this is exactly what cool nigger was invented for. You brought something up and I put effort into responding to it directly in a personal way, and to that you just say "lmao u mad kid". Nobody on this website is in the habit of laughing at people for simply trying to communicate. You can point and laugh at effortposts if you want but you'll be pointing and laughing alone.

[Another guest]

Cool nigger meme: “What if a cool nigger saw you caring?” 
We should either end the meme or enforce everyone to use it correctly.

[Guest]

The meme is just unpleasant shaming of 'effete whites' à la Hyde. It isn't even racist, there's no point to it.

[A. Guest]

The meme is just unpleasant shaming of 'effete whites' à la Hyde. It isn't even racist, there's no point to it.

Actually I’m pretty sure it was for chapo leftists and not “effete whites.” Also, they wince every time they see ‘nigger’ because it’s a reminder that their ostensible cool affect is so contrary to their moralizing nature.

[Lindenbaum]

One of the main purposes of this thread was to try to find out from those of you who regularly "touch grass" (I take touching grass to essentially mean "engaging with the real world") what you actually get out of it and what's so good about it (if anything). My experiences with the outside world haven't been great so far. The best, most moving and emotional moments of my life have all taken place while engaging with anime or video games, and the people I've felt closest to have been characters from these mediums. I started playing Resident Evil 4 (2005) a few days ago, and I really like Leon Kennedy. I find the game to be quite creepy/unnerving at times, especially the music, so his confident attitude and funny, bizarre one-liners give me a lot of relief. In the 10 hours that I've known him so far, I feel closer to Leon than 99% of the real people I've ever known.

I had a disagreement with someone I know last week, he said that video games and anime are just pixels on a screen, and that by wasting my time on them, I'm not really living. But is anyone "really living" these days? I don't think that the dull crap normies get up to is "living", in fact I think that my anime characters are more alive and more real than they are. The stuff he was saying I could be doing with my life was all boring nonsense too, like getting a wife, reproducing, as if there's anything special in reproduction for its own sake. I think I'd rather save the President's daughter from Los Illuminados.

The way I see it, there are three reasons to engage with the real world in 2024. Either you can lend your aid to a good man of immense will and power, and help him to transform this broken world into something more beautiful, or you can try to be that man yourself. If neither of these are an option then there's only one other reason to engage with the real world. You could call it the "BAP" option. Basically it consists of wandering around the world, trying to see what fun there is to be had out there. I see it as similar to being an adventurer in the desert, seeing if you can find treasure in a mostly empty wasteland. If you befriend a rare, interesting person who is actually worth knowing then that would probably be the highest possible reward of this option.

[Teer]

Everyday I drive to work, I pass niggers staring at me as they loiter around my apartment building, I'm touching grass. Always on guard when at the gas station because some crackhead groid or illegal will try to sell me something or rob me, I'm touching grass. Fixing something because some woman dropped the ball, I'm touching grass. I barely even feel like a person, I'm touching so much grass. 

I don't see touching grass as engaging with the world, rather its conforming to it. Touch grass, they say, did you see that game of nigger ball last night? You should join us at the strip club, I want to see you drunk! 

Engaging with the world is worthwhile, touching grass isn't.

[Virtue]

One of the main purposes of this thread was to try to find out from those of you who regularly "touch grass" (I take touching grass to essentially mean "engaging with the real world") what you actually get out of it and what's so good about it (if anything). My experiences with the outside world haven't been great so far. The best, most moving and emotional moments of my life have all taken place while engaging with anime or video games, and the people I've felt closest to have been characters from these mediums. I started playing Resident Evil 4 (2005) a few days ago, and I really like Leon Kennedy. I find the game to be quite creepy/unnerving at times, especially the music, so his confident attitude and funny, bizarre one-liners give me a lot of relief. In the 10 hours that I've known him so far, I feel closer to Leon than 99% of the real people I've ever known.

I had a disagreement with someone I know last week, he said that video games and anime are just pixels on a screen, and that by wasting my time on them, I'm not really living. But is anyone "really living" these days? I don't think that the dull crap normies get up to is "living", in fact I think that my anime characters are more alive and more real than they are. The stuff he was saying I could be doing with my life was all boring nonsense too, like getting a wife, reproducing, as if there's anything special in reproduction for its own sake. I think I'd rather save the President's daughter from Los Illuminados.

[Senusret iii fan]

Ya'll are lame, get some bitches

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