Vaccines
#1
Are the schizos right about vaccines (vaccines in general, not just the bio weapon that billions were injected with in the past ~2 years), or are they just fine?
#2
A theory that I find quite interesting is that polio epidemics were caused by DDT poisoning and that that particular vaccine actually barely did anything. If true that's one of medicine's greatest victories completely decapitated. Not really in the mood to do the Salo thing and recap the book I read, so here's the author's twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/statu...KV9_IbAAAA
#3
(12-08-2022, 01:25 AM)anthony Wrote: A theory that I find quite interesting is that polio epidemics were caused by DDT poisoning and that that particular vaccine actually barely did anything. If true that's one of medicine's greatest victories completely decapitated. Not really in the mood to do the Salo thing and recap the book I read, so here's the author's twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/statu...KV9_IbAAAA

Thank you.
#4
A bit of a strange topic but I was curious if anyone had any theories about "curing" the results of the Covid shot. I didn't get it myself but have family and friends that did and was wondering if any experimenting has been done to reverse the shot.

I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.
#5
I think they are both right and wrong. They are right in that vaccines, in general, are bad. But their explanations why are not always correct. From what I've seen, it's simply too messy a field to *prove* anything definitively (definitively for any purpose of utility). And so it's hard to buy any one theory as correct.

But vaccines are bad generally for what they represent and what they are. Each vaccine is a vote of no-confidence into the one injected. It is saying "We believe you might lose the gamble of life. We will try to protect you from the consequences." But it's not good to cheat life in this way, and it's a dangerous way to think. The rate of death, serious illness, etc. from what we vaccinate against is not so high as to cause any trouble to society. Even if it multiplied by 10 times, it would not matter.

So there is no utilitarian reason to do it. We do it mainly for moral reasons. More life = more good. It's sad when people die. And all of this. But the ideas themselves are destructive, etc. etc. I think many of the schizos perceive this wrong-ness with the practice but find themselves unable to face this greater truth (that more life =/ more good.) Without this they find the answer nonetheless (since destructive ideas always have a cost) and then they work to link them. Others are simply researchers who came across strange connections and felt disturbed. But the field is too uncertain to make definitive claims on mechanisms, 2nd-order effects, this sort of thing. Everything has a rhetorical weakness because the science itself is not fool-proof. Even if you have massive statistical certainty...Good luck convincing the audience of this. Because whatever the opposing side says is backed by authority.

And this is why it's difficult to believe them. Not only are some of them very zany, but all of them have this difficult problem of proof. The science is not settled, human biology is very complex, and our best strengths are in "Problem", "Solution" which is measurable in symptoms. Mechanisms themselves are not our strength, nor have we made any large strides towards certainty here. (I concede, some will call this position schizo as well.)

As for theories about "curing" the "cure"...I apologize but I haven't seen anything convincing. Even the cure itself...We don't know what it's doing. Black Box medicines if you will. Need much more data, and probably need some difficult experiments (requiring very stringent testing and data collection.) We got the IGG4 stuff recently so maybe we will know more soon enough. Maybe things like aspirin or fish oil will be helpful (thinning the blood) but then they might be harmful instead. I simply don't know.
#6
I believe that the vaxx won't kill too many of the vaxxed. Instead I believe WE should upon taking power. It doesn't have to do with anything with them being libtards or whatever, but something more simple - a demonstration of power via application of ultimate logical conclusions and proper ultra-extremism, or rather this would be our "Final Argument" that would cause any remnant detractors to kill themselves out of despair and horror.
#7
(01-08-2023, 11:45 PM)skorr Wrote: A bit of a strange topic but I was curious if anyone had any theories about "curing" the results of the Covid shot. I didn't get it myself but have family and friends that did and was wondering if any experimenting has been done to reverse the shot.

I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.

Nattokinase, n-acetylcysteine, ivermectin, Vitamin D or C (although D you could get via ample sunshine rather than supplements) seem to be the most mentioned from my research. Hilariously (because early in the pandemic it also seemed to prevent infection) nicotine may help as well.

https://colleenhuber.substack.com/p/figh...id-vaccine

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p...t-12969127

https://jessicar.substack.com/p/pfizer-a...t/17350327

https://flccc.substack.com/p/reducing-ca...fter-covid
#8
(01-08-2023, 11:45 PM)skorr Wrote: A bit of a strange topic but I was curious if anyone had any theories about "curing" the results of the Covid shot. I didn't get it myself but have family and friends that did and was wondering if any experimenting has been done to reverse the shot.

I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.

The only confirmed cure is logging off. However, there is emerging evidence that finding a surrogate father figure somewhere other than Twitter, preferably one that actually knows who you are and cares about your wellbeing, is at least somewhat effective.
#9
(12-07-2022, 10:39 PM)Asvka Wrote: Are the schizos right about vaccines (vaccines in general, not just the bio weapon that billions were injected with in the past ~2 years), or are they just fine?

𝙑𝐚𝐜𝒸𝘪𝓷🅴𝕤 𝘄𝙚𝔯𝘦 𝕞𝕒𝐲𝐛𝔢 𝖆𝖙 𝘰𝐧𝘦 🅿𝔬𝔦𝓃𝒕 𝕒𝕟 𝘩🅾𝘯𝔢𝘀𝕥 𝒊𝓭🅴𝓪. 𝐇𝗼𝙬ℯ𝚟🅴𝒓 𝐭𝚑🅔𝐢𝚛 𝗶𝚖𝘱𝐥ℯ🄼🄴𝐧🆃𝒶𝘵𝒾𝕠𝑛 ℎ𝘢𝒔 𝘢𝗹ⓛⓞ𝒘𝙚𝘥 𝖊𝓿𝖎𝗹 𝘵𝒐 𝒅𝑖𝓬🅣𝕒𝒕𝒆 𝓉𝕙𝕖𝙞🅡 𝔲𝔰🄴.

ℐ 𝒶𝚖 𝕗𝗮𝒾🅡𝒍🅈 ⓒ𝙚𝐫𝓽𝙖𝘪𝙣 𝓽𝚑ⓐ𝙩 𝓋𝒶🅒𝐜🄸𝗻🅴🅢 𝓉🄾𝗱𝙖𝘆 𝗮𝚛𝙚 𝓷🅾𝘵 🅜𝕒🅝🅳𝑎𝘁𝗼🅡𝖞 🅾𝕣 𝑤𝖎𝔱𝙝 🆈𝕠𝓾𝓻 𝗯𝐞𝐬𝓽 𝐡𝑒𝘢𝕝𝕥🄷 𝓲𝔫 𝗺𝖎𝙣🄳.

I wᵒuₗd nₒt tᵣuˢt pᵉoₚlᵉ whᵒ caⁿ be bₒuᵍhₜ tᵒ caʳe fᵒr a nₒnᵉxᵢsᵗeₙt cₒmᵐuₙiᵗy.
#10
(07-09-2023, 03:58 PM)calico Wrote:
(01-08-2023, 11:45 PM)skorr Wrote: A bit of a strange topic but I was curious if anyone had any theories about "curing" the results of the Covid shot. I didn't get it myself but have family and friends that did and was wondering if any experimenting has been done to reverse the shot.

I've heard that white pine needle extract, if taken daily, will break down the spike proteins but it's more or less hearsay.

The only confirmed cure is logging off. However, there is emerging evidence that finding a surrogate father figure somewhere other than Twitter, preferably one that actually knows who you are and cares about your wellbeing, is at least somewhat effective.

Sorry to ruin your psychoanalysis vaxxtard, but both my dad and I are proud zerohedge premium subscribers. Heil Epoch Health.
#11
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Thᵉ ₒnˡy cᵘrₑ ᶦs dᵉaₜh.
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#12
The schizos were mostly wrong but so was everyone else, vaccines are kind of just a low probability thing that don't affect many people positively or negatively in the end. COVID-19 was a pointless media circus that made normies panic and pharmaceutical companies richer.

The main problem that does exist with vaccines is that any immune response whether naturally or artificially induced can in rare cases result in severe and long-term side effects in otherwise healthy people. "Long covid" is a misnomer for a category of autoimmune disorders known as chronic fatigue syndrome that can be caused by both viruses and their vaccines.

Taking multiple vaccines plus scheduled boosters is a somewhat bad idea for otherwise healthy young people who are at minimal risk from the virus. Taking multiple doses of a vaccine when they were at minimal risk from the virus exposes them to unnecessary risk. For very old people it's probably a good idea to be vaccinated since the virus can actually kill them and the side effects are comparatively negligible.

I haven't looked into the other vaccine cocktails that get given to children as much, but my suspicion is that their effectiveness and importance is lower than advertised. The narrative that vaccines eradicated lots of viruses is probably overstated.
#13
(07-11-2023, 04:41 AM)Mason Hall-McCullough Wrote: vaccines are kind of just a low probability thing that don't affect many people positively or negatively in the end.

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#14
It probably makes people worse at driving.
#15
I've been following the RFK Jr thing which comes with a lot of talk about vaccines. you might watch this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnJi7yLKgE) if you want. the thing that convinced me is that apparently every vaccine requires an "adjuvant" that aggravates the immune system and for this reason they ruled that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe" so that the companies that produce them don't have to be liable for the side effects. I'm not in medicine or anything, just parroting what I heard, but it sounds bad and no one seems to have any convincing counter arguments.
#16
(07-13-2023, 03:35 PM)Gorgias Wrote: I've been following the RFK Jr thing which comes with a lot of talk about vaccines. you might watch this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnJi7yLKgE) if you want. the thing that convinced me is that apparently every vaccine requires an "adjuvant" that aggravates the immune system and for this reason they ruled that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe" so that the companies that produce them don't have to be liable for the side effects. I'm not in medicine or anything, just parroting what I heard, but it sounds bad and no one seems to have any convincing counter arguments.



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