12-04-2022, 04:58 PM
Hello!
I wanted to make this thread to document the culture of the "Wholesome Anime Trads," which I believe to be a distinct group or type of person, in an attempt to better understand their nature, origin, and behavior.
I'm not an oldhead (I really only got "online" during ~2018,) nor have I been able study the development of certain internet cultures like early Twitter for example, so I'm open to critique on my theories and how these people came to be.
Wholesome Anime Trads began proliferating on Twitter, at least since 2018 with the rise of "MoeBibleVerse," who is one of the most popular if not the progenitor of the WATs, since they all ape her style and personality (which I will detail later.) They may have some influence from imageboards due to their adoption of Chan-OC characters like Christ-chan, and the AnimeRight MAGAhat Momiji avis, however they diverge in that they are much less vulgar than people you would expect from imageboards or the AnimeRight. Currently they relegate themselves to their own Discords or flee to alt tech like Gab or Poast, seemingly content with conservative echo chambers, rather than respawning on Twitter every week to quotetweet trannies. Some of them are still on Twitter, but they don't interact with our "spheres" that much. Mostly because they are not so politically-fixated, nor do they care about having cutting-edge takes: they care more about "spreading the message" of how porn is bad rather than heiling Hitler.
[Image: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attac...970ec1.jpg]
I'll now go on to detail some of the core traits that affect how WATs act:
-Universally Christian. Following the trend of Atheist/Protestant converts to Catholicism/Orthodoxy since 2018, many WATs crossover into that demographic of converts, but not completely (MoeBibleVerse herself is a Southern Baptist.) Some WATs are low-church Protestant, high-church Protestant, and I've even met a couple Mormon WATs. Regardless, "general Christian morality" occupies the headspace of all WATs: these are the people who tell you to go to church (or mass) every Sunday, have a nofap channel in their Discord, and talk about the evils of premarital sex and homosexuality. Although you can rely on them to believe in white wellbeing and even the JQ, they for some reason simply don't think about those issues as much as their Christian positions.
-They, ironically, are split on support for Nick Fuentes. As aforementioned, WATs care first for Christian morality, and thus should align with AF which also brands itself this way. But some WATs either don't care for, distance themselves from, or even outright disavow Nick Fuentes and AF, with their own twist on why: they don't care for the negrolatry, far from it. Rather they disdain Nick's egotism, the vulgar and roudy (AKA black) behavior of many AFers, or have some perceived moral outrage with some degenerate thing AF has done and thus cannot support them on Christian grounds. Some WATs are in AF, but they've largely gone underground and disappeared after the Gloyper (a term for AF interns) edrama that happened on Gab during Spring 2022.
-Highly puritanical. While this varies from circle to circle, they exhibit the bible-thumping prudish culture of folksy normie Christians. You'll never find a WAT posting "lewds" of anime girls, some going as far to say that you shouldn't post anime girls with either their thighs or chest exposed (a reference to Pope Pius XI's decree on modesty.) Among other issues of purity like profane language and posting NSFW, this has led to a culture of users policing each other lest they post anything too "extreme." For this reason I suspect a lot of WATs are teenaged or have a level of naivete with browsing the internet: they - like me - were never exposed to gore, goatse, liveleak desensitization stuff, and as a result try to maintain that innocence among others. "Keep it wholesome!"
-Going off of their puritanical trait, this influences their taste and fascination with anime: they prefer (or at least post about) more "wholesome" animes, leading them to watch a lot of SoL, and leaving shounen/action as a secondary interest. They're actually fine with people posting lolis, provided the images do not provoke eros (they react with shock and disgust to such things,) seeing the loli as "cute and wholesome." Indeed you can find them watching "tfw-no-gf-type" animes, self-identifying with Tomoko Kuroki, and fawning over all-girl-cast animes like Love Live, Gochiusa, Non Non Biyori, Lucky Star, Little Witch Academia, and the Touhou project (don't forget the wholesome fumos!) Unfortunately, the closer you inspect this, the more ACK!ed it seems... indeed, some WATs struggle with sexual sins and a couple on occasion are ex-troons, a very bad sign. My psychoanalysis is that in foregoing the brutish and vulgar side of humanity, they instead only end up embodying the opposite error of sternness: internalizing and identifying with meekness and softness.
-Fusing Christianity with anime. MoeBibleVerse popularized this by posting hundreds of anime girls right next to bible verse quotations, and the tradition still lasts today. Whether it be editing anime girls praying in a church, posting anime nuns, screencapping anime girls saying "based" things, or even making their own "Christian anime art" (like that infamous anime-icon of Mary and Jesus, which spawned a thousand quarrels on trad twitter.) This usually leads to them fawning over animes with "Christian morality," the champion example being Spy X Family. You could also lump some various RomCom animes revolving around marriage like Tonikaku Kawaii into here. These are often the same people who today spread the meme about "Christianizing Japan" which was debated earlier this summer. Most trad Christians are content to have anime that simply promotes pro-civilization values without any added sexual perversion, but WATs still fantasize about a Christian Japan making Christian anime girls.
-Their memetic development is in the stone age. They never left 2019 in some ways: They still post yes chad. To them, Gigachad is the guy who hates porn and fast food, self-improves, and is racist (but is somehow tolerant of brown people, how crazy!) All of their culture seems to be downstream from Twitter, which is to say that WATs inherit a lot of the iFunny fallout from 2020 (gif captions, neco arc, when I'm in a schizo competition and my opponent is a K-on avi with the patrick bateman gif.) Anything that trends on Twitter or can be posted on Orwell & Goode's account can be expected in their memetic output. Their ability to "intuit insight" is virtually nonexistant, just recently a few WATs were baffled at the "Professors are priests of democracy" headline, even though this has been a generic take in our sphere for years, with Owen Cyclops (who I'm aware is outdated) writing about that phenomenon way back in 2019. Rest assured that "incel" to them means nothing more than a porn addict (because they are volcel), and "simp" only means someone subscribed to an e-girl's onlyfans.
[Image: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/9...24_948.jpg]
There are a few other things to mention. One of the more prominent WATs is Pax Christus, who grew to relevance due to his constant feuding with leftists on Twitter and his Youtube channel. His subculture is a bit unique in that it's more influenced by tradcats than anything else, and is more political focused, but again Pax doesn't doesn't really conceptualize issues that deeply. He memorizes information about how porn destroys the brain or whatnot, rather than looking into ideas like Great Man Theory or understanding just how deeply the feminist zeitgeist affects men today.
I hope this thread may have served to be of interest or at least entertainment, I would like to hear any thoughts about what influences these WATs or why they act the way they do, they're very similar to usual "internet normie" types, but with a fixation on "cuteposting" that makes them different from other groups.
They're not the most politically ambitious nor do I put a lot of stock into the quality of their users, which is why they both aren't too relevant nowadays and they don't write that in-depth on any subject other than perhaps some theological topics that interests their particular denomination. But I do find them interesting to observe at a distance.
[Image: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/8...221643.jpg]
I wanted to make this thread to document the culture of the "Wholesome Anime Trads," which I believe to be a distinct group or type of person, in an attempt to better understand their nature, origin, and behavior.
I'm not an oldhead (I really only got "online" during ~2018,) nor have I been able study the development of certain internet cultures like early Twitter for example, so I'm open to critique on my theories and how these people came to be.
Wholesome Anime Trads began proliferating on Twitter, at least since 2018 with the rise of "MoeBibleVerse," who is one of the most popular if not the progenitor of the WATs, since they all ape her style and personality (which I will detail later.) They may have some influence from imageboards due to their adoption of Chan-OC characters like Christ-chan, and the AnimeRight MAGAhat Momiji avis, however they diverge in that they are much less vulgar than people you would expect from imageboards or the AnimeRight. Currently they relegate themselves to their own Discords or flee to alt tech like Gab or Poast, seemingly content with conservative echo chambers, rather than respawning on Twitter every week to quotetweet trannies. Some of them are still on Twitter, but they don't interact with our "spheres" that much. Mostly because they are not so politically-fixated, nor do they care about having cutting-edge takes: they care more about "spreading the message" of how porn is bad rather than heiling Hitler.
[Image: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attac...970ec1.jpg]
I'll now go on to detail some of the core traits that affect how WATs act:
-Universally Christian. Following the trend of Atheist/Protestant converts to Catholicism/Orthodoxy since 2018, many WATs crossover into that demographic of converts, but not completely (MoeBibleVerse herself is a Southern Baptist.) Some WATs are low-church Protestant, high-church Protestant, and I've even met a couple Mormon WATs. Regardless, "general Christian morality" occupies the headspace of all WATs: these are the people who tell you to go to church (or mass) every Sunday, have a nofap channel in their Discord, and talk about the evils of premarital sex and homosexuality. Although you can rely on them to believe in white wellbeing and even the JQ, they for some reason simply don't think about those issues as much as their Christian positions.
-They, ironically, are split on support for Nick Fuentes. As aforementioned, WATs care first for Christian morality, and thus should align with AF which also brands itself this way. But some WATs either don't care for, distance themselves from, or even outright disavow Nick Fuentes and AF, with their own twist on why: they don't care for the negrolatry, far from it. Rather they disdain Nick's egotism, the vulgar and roudy (AKA black) behavior of many AFers, or have some perceived moral outrage with some degenerate thing AF has done and thus cannot support them on Christian grounds. Some WATs are in AF, but they've largely gone underground and disappeared after the Gloyper (a term for AF interns) edrama that happened on Gab during Spring 2022.
-Highly puritanical. While this varies from circle to circle, they exhibit the bible-thumping prudish culture of folksy normie Christians. You'll never find a WAT posting "lewds" of anime girls, some going as far to say that you shouldn't post anime girls with either their thighs or chest exposed (a reference to Pope Pius XI's decree on modesty.) Among other issues of purity like profane language and posting NSFW, this has led to a culture of users policing each other lest they post anything too "extreme." For this reason I suspect a lot of WATs are teenaged or have a level of naivete with browsing the internet: they - like me - were never exposed to gore, goatse, liveleak desensitization stuff, and as a result try to maintain that innocence among others. "Keep it wholesome!"
-Going off of their puritanical trait, this influences their taste and fascination with anime: they prefer (or at least post about) more "wholesome" animes, leading them to watch a lot of SoL, and leaving shounen/action as a secondary interest. They're actually fine with people posting lolis, provided the images do not provoke eros (they react with shock and disgust to such things,) seeing the loli as "cute and wholesome." Indeed you can find them watching "tfw-no-gf-type" animes, self-identifying with Tomoko Kuroki, and fawning over all-girl-cast animes like Love Live, Gochiusa, Non Non Biyori, Lucky Star, Little Witch Academia, and the Touhou project (don't forget the wholesome fumos!) Unfortunately, the closer you inspect this, the more ACK!ed it seems... indeed, some WATs struggle with sexual sins and a couple on occasion are ex-troons, a very bad sign. My psychoanalysis is that in foregoing the brutish and vulgar side of humanity, they instead only end up embodying the opposite error of sternness: internalizing and identifying with meekness and softness.
-Fusing Christianity with anime. MoeBibleVerse popularized this by posting hundreds of anime girls right next to bible verse quotations, and the tradition still lasts today. Whether it be editing anime girls praying in a church, posting anime nuns, screencapping anime girls saying "based" things, or even making their own "Christian anime art" (like that infamous anime-icon of Mary and Jesus, which spawned a thousand quarrels on trad twitter.) This usually leads to them fawning over animes with "Christian morality," the champion example being Spy X Family. You could also lump some various RomCom animes revolving around marriage like Tonikaku Kawaii into here. These are often the same people who today spread the meme about "Christianizing Japan" which was debated earlier this summer. Most trad Christians are content to have anime that simply promotes pro-civilization values without any added sexual perversion, but WATs still fantasize about a Christian Japan making Christian anime girls.
-Their memetic development is in the stone age. They never left 2019 in some ways: They still post yes chad. To them, Gigachad is the guy who hates porn and fast food, self-improves, and is racist (but is somehow tolerant of brown people, how crazy!) All of their culture seems to be downstream from Twitter, which is to say that WATs inherit a lot of the iFunny fallout from 2020 (gif captions, neco arc, when I'm in a schizo competition and my opponent is a K-on avi with the patrick bateman gif.) Anything that trends on Twitter or can be posted on Orwell & Goode's account can be expected in their memetic output. Their ability to "intuit insight" is virtually nonexistant, just recently a few WATs were baffled at the "Professors are priests of democracy" headline, even though this has been a generic take in our sphere for years, with Owen Cyclops (who I'm aware is outdated) writing about that phenomenon way back in 2019. Rest assured that "incel" to them means nothing more than a porn addict (because they are volcel), and "simp" only means someone subscribed to an e-girl's onlyfans.
[Image: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/9...24_948.jpg]
There are a few other things to mention. One of the more prominent WATs is Pax Christus, who grew to relevance due to his constant feuding with leftists on Twitter and his Youtube channel. His subculture is a bit unique in that it's more influenced by tradcats than anything else, and is more political focused, but again Pax doesn't doesn't really conceptualize issues that deeply. He memorizes information about how porn destroys the brain or whatnot, rather than looking into ideas like Great Man Theory or understanding just how deeply the feminist zeitgeist affects men today.
I hope this thread may have served to be of interest or at least entertainment, I would like to hear any thoughts about what influences these WATs or why they act the way they do, they're very similar to usual "internet normie" types, but with a fixation on "cuteposting" that makes them different from other groups.
They're not the most politically ambitious nor do I put a lot of stock into the quality of their users, which is why they both aren't too relevant nowadays and they don't write that in-depth on any subject other than perhaps some theological topics that interests their particular denomination. But I do find them interesting to observe at a distance.
[Image: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/8...221643.jpg]
