Why Untermensch?
#1
This is a nice thread playing Devils Advocate for the Continued Existence of the Lower forms of Humanity.

The Untouchable, the Dhimmi, the Untermensch, the Never-do-well’s, and all other names I have not mentioned, why should they Exist?

I have a hard time Making any Arguments in Favor of Untermensch and wanted to hear some of your reasons for why they should exist. To me, personally, they are disgusting on a level beyond corporeal, it’s their very existence that makes we want to puke in disgust and Cry in Pity. WhatEver feelings people hold towards tragic Individuals suffering from Down-Syndrome I hold towards the Untermensch. 

The worst part is that they can never know Truely what they do, it takes me to a Bleak Despair. I thought maybe one of you could help me out of these Feelings and Understand the Reasons you have come to advocate for Untermensch.
#2
"What is this? That liberty requires slavery to maintain it? It may be so. Extremes meet.” - Rousseau
#3
Someone needs to erect the statues of us Amarnites When We Win. That being said, minimum 90% of Untermensch must go. As BAP says, Iceland-style population density is the goal to aspire towards
#4
Utility.

But it is not a matter of existence or nonexistence. Culling is possible. The worst untermenschen, those that are "at the top of the list" display neither virtue nor utility. These are people like socialist untermenschen, gangster untermenschen, fraudster untermenschen, welfare untermenschen etc.
#5
Plenty of economic reason to have a proletariat around, even capital intensive sectors still require a lot of labor input for the production process. Both National Socialism and American social liberalism arrived at the conclusion that the best thing to do for a lasting political order is to let these people acquire property of their own, and become petty bourgeois stakeholders with "skin in the game". Economic promises also fit neatly into the strategies of mass politics.
#6
I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. For low value non-Aryans, they obviously shouldn't be kept around. TNWD. The meat of the question, though, is what we do with low value Aryans after our future has been secured. I take Eugenics for granted, so those of low value should be limited to one child per woman, and Eugenics policy should graduate towards high natalism rates for high value Aryans. This cuts the untermenschen in half each generation. Combine this with an institution of regular expulsions of malcontents, you can purge untermenschen with a low amount of violence and nothing as gruesome as mass culling.
#7
(03-19-2023, 04:47 PM)Carbide Wrote: I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. For low value non-Aryans, they obviously shouldn't be kept around. TNWD. The meat of the question, though, is what we do with low value Aryans after our future has been secured. I take Eugenics for granted, so those of low value should be limited to one child per woman, and Eugenics policy should graduate towards high natalism rates for high value Aryans. This cuts the untermenschen in half each generation. Combine this with an institution of regular expulsions of malcontents, you can purge untermenschen with a low amount of violence and nothing as gruesome as mass culling.

Corollary: the Inevitable. What say ye wrt the question of mischlings? When we win, do you want to see the one-drop rule implemented? Now that we have DNA science, we can classify people pretty well--though there will be those with rounding errors of inferior blood that may not show up on every test. Thankfully, few White Americans, likely the most miscegenated Aryans, have any inferior blood:
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#8
>Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]
#9
brilliant idea, a completely arbitrary system to punish friends and reward enemies based on the most facile and easily addressed traits one could choose.
#10
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: >Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]

What an amazing idea! Sure, 70% of Whites have their fertility culled even further, and an 85 IQ Blonde person can have 12 children, while a 135 IQ Pale, White Med can only have 2, won't backfire at all!
#11
@Carbide Keyed.
#12
According to this horrible chart Hitler would probably be Ironblood, maybe Copper, i don't know much about his IQ but based on the Nuremberg IQ tests it should be at least 115
#13
They should exist as long as the technology needed to sustain labour automation is not fully developed.
#14
(03-26-2023, 07:15 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote:
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: >Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]

What an amazing idea! Sure, 70% of Whites have their fertility culled even further, and an 85 IQ Blonde person can have 12 children, while a 135 IQ Pale, White Med can only have 2, won't backfire at all!

Le mad brown-eye is mad. And judging by your inability to read the chart, your IQ is lower than 95 as well. One child policy for you.
#15
(03-19-2023, 04:47 PM)Carbide Wrote: I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. 

You cannot impose value upon low stock through indoctrination alone. You need to impose sexual morality at swordpoint to ensure eugenic pressure. This cannot be sufficiently indoctrined because instincts overwhelm rational thought. Schooling is only effective on those who are high value in the first place, you need multi-generational eugenic selection to raise up the stock itself.
#16
(05-06-2023, 09:20 PM)Handi Wrote:
(03-19-2023, 04:47 PM)Carbide Wrote: I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. 

You cannot impose value upon low stock through indoctrination alone. You need to impose sexual morality at swordpoint to ensure eugenic pressure. This cannot be sufficiently indoctrined because instincts overwhelm rational thought. Schooling is only effective on those who are high value in the first place, you need multi-generational eugenic selection to raise up the stock itself.

Regression to the Mean. The USA used to bring the (purportedly) """talented tenth""" from the third world as immigrants, the very best that the Congo Primitives had to offer, and then their children were all dumb violent apes like the rest of Africa. While we may dispute the highly alleged claim that Africa has anything worthy of being called talented, it is nevertheless a real phenomenon that smart parents produce mediocre children, and vice versa. Low value Aryans can, in fact, produce high value children without eugenics. I agree that Eugenics is necessary, obviously, since I proposed a thorough eugenics caste system, but I dispute the claim that it is the only way to get high value Aryans. High value is buried in our genome, and can be developed from middling parents who are forced to be better by a strong state, such as what happened in the Third Reich when an entire nation went from Weimar horror to being ascended humans in nine years. It didn't even take an intergenerational period to achieve that transformation. It was psychosocial and nearly instantaneous under refreshing leadership and heroic example-setting. We can do it again. We can nurture value even without waiting for children to be made.
#17
(05-06-2023, 08:42 PM)Carbide Wrote:
(03-26-2023, 07:15 AM)Toledo_Keyed Wrote:
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: >Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]

What an amazing idea! Sure, 70% of Whites have their fertility culled even further, and an 85 IQ Blonde person can have 12 children, while a 135 IQ Pale, White Med can only have 2, won't backfire at all!

Le mad brown-eye is mad. And judging by your inability to read the chart, your IQ is lower than 95 as well. One child policy for you.
I didn't misread it, it says less than 105 IQ Icelandic can have 12 children. While say 130 IQ Occitanian can only have 2. This is a very superficial and imbecilic form of eugenics. IQ is much much harder to change than making the hair 4% lighter. Yep. What a great plan! Let us all bow before White rappers.

Iceland isn't even the most Nordic nation. Relatively high amounts of Alpinids with less-than-desirable phenotypes.
#18
(05-06-2023, 09:20 PM)Handi Wrote: I didn't misread it, it says less than 105 IQ Icelandic can have 12 children. While say 130 IQ Occitanian can only have 2. This is a very superficial and imbecilic form of eugenics. IQ is much much harder to change than making the hair 4% lighter. Yep. What a great plan! Let us all bow before White rappers.

Iceland isn't even the most Nordic nation. Relatively high amounts of Alpinids with less-than-desirable phenotypes.

Why are you so concerned about Icelandics who are only 300,000 in number? The largest castes will be Ironbloods and Steelcastes, numbering in the millions and having 6-12 children each, easily restoring our pan-racial numbers in one generation and reversing a century of dysgenic schemes by jews and other brown eyed """Occitanians.""" Cast your brown eyes down to the pavement and be happy you have an ethnostate and are being permitted for your bloodline to be cleansed back into Aryan purity at all. You have literally nothing to complain about in this scheme with two children and grand children of a higher caste. This is the path that leads to the stars.
#19
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: >Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]
What's so special about Icelandic's? What makes them any different from any other northern european ethnicity? (other than the fact that many of them look like mongoloids)
#20
(05-13-2023, 06:50 PM)awtism Wrote:
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: ...
What's so special about Icelandic's? What makes them any different from any other northern european ethnicity? (other than the fact that many of them look like mongoloids)
Their 'Nordicness' is over-embellished, they are at least 30% Alpinid through Celtic brides taken by Norse settlers in the Middle Ages. If you were to replace Icelandic on the chart with Frisians I would take no issue.

Frisians, from my studies, are the most pure of the Nordic ethnic subgroups, no traces of Celtic admixture (Franconians* and Saxons (of both England and Germany)), no traces of Roman admixture (Swabians and Bavarians), no traces of Uralic admixture (Scandinavians and Austrians), and especially no traces of Slavic admixture (East Germans, particularly in Brandenburg and Upper Saxony are significantly Slavic).

*(My definition of Franconian stretches from Middle West Germany, Belgium and South Holland, and Northeastern France as traditional territory of the Frankish Kingdom)



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