This is a nice thread playing Devils Advocate for the Continued Existence of the Lower forms of Humanity.
The Untouchable, the Dhimmi, the Untermensch, the Never-do-well’s, and all other names I have not mentioned, why should they Exist?
I have a hard time Making any Arguments in Favor of Untermensch and wanted to hear some of your reasons for why they should exist. To me, personally, they are disgusting on a level beyond corporeal, it’s their very existence that makes we want to puke in disgust and Cry in Pity. WhatEver feelings people hold towards tragic Individuals suffering from Down-Syndrome I hold towards the Untermensch.
The worst part is that they can never know Truely what they do, it takes me to a Bleak Despair. I thought maybe one of you could help me out of these Feelings and Understand the Reasons you have come to advocate for Untermensch.
"What is this? That liberty requires slavery to maintain it? It may be so. Extremes meet.” - Rousseau
Someone needs to erect the statues of us Amarnites When We Win. That being said, minimum 90% of Untermensch must go. As BAP says, Iceland-style population density is the goal to aspire towards
Utility.
But it is not a matter of existence or nonexistence. Culling is possible. The worst untermenschen, those that are "at the top of the list" display neither virtue nor utility. These are people like socialist untermenschen, gangster untermenschen, fraudster untermenschen, welfare untermenschen etc.
Plenty of economic reason to have a proletariat around, even capital intensive sectors still require a lot of labor input for the production process. Both National Socialism and American social liberalism arrived at the conclusion that the best thing to do for a lasting political order is to let these people acquire property of their own, and become petty bourgeois stakeholders with "skin in the game". Economic promises also fit neatly into the strategies of mass politics.
I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. For low value non-Aryans, they obviously shouldn't be kept around. TNWD. The meat of the question, though, is what we do with low value Aryans after our future has been secured. I take Eugenics for granted, so those of low value should be limited to one child per woman, and Eugenics policy should graduate towards high natalism rates for high value Aryans. This cuts the untermenschen in half each generation. Combine this with an institution of regular expulsions of malcontents, you can purge untermenschen with a low amount of violence and nothing as gruesome as mass culling.
(03-19-2023, 04:47 PM)Carbide Wrote: I would say that low value Aryans are necessary right now because they are gene carriers for the regression to the mean. Their children will not necessarily be low value, if we can impose an education and upbringing on them. For low value non-Aryans, they obviously shouldn't be kept around. TNWD. The meat of the question, though, is what we do with low value Aryans after our future has been secured. I take Eugenics for granted, so those of low value should be limited to one child per woman, and Eugenics policy should graduate towards high natalism rates for high value Aryans. This cuts the untermenschen in half each generation. Combine this with an institution of regular expulsions of malcontents, you can purge untermenschen with a low amount of violence and nothing as gruesome as mass culling.
Corollary: the Inevitable. What say ye wrt the question of mischlings? When we win, do you want to see the one-drop rule implemented? Now that we have DNA science, we can classify people pretty well--though there will be those with rounding errors of inferior blood that may not show up on every test. Thankfully, few White Americans, likely the most miscegenated Aryans, have any inferior blood:
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/mepx1Kv.png]
>Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: https://i.ibb.co/rxKBFsB/Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]
brilliant idea, a completely arbitrary system to punish friends and reward enemies based on the most facile and easily addressed traits one could choose.
(03-19-2023, 07:23 PM)Carbide Wrote: >Le who is white?
I'm going to implement a caste system. The purest nordics are empowered with subsidies to have more children than the most mongrelized who can still be called white. It's not difficult.
Sons can marry a caste below them, daughters can marry a caste above them, and each child is judged separately from siblings and parents. No need for genetic testing (but we'll still do it to find cryptojews).
In a few generations everyone is very highly nordic.
[Image: https://i.ibb.co/rxKBFsB/Saxonrike-Caste-Sort.png]
What an amazing idea! Sure, 70% of Whites have their fertility culled even further, and an 85 IQ Blonde person can have 12 children, while a 135 IQ Pale, White Med can only have 2, won't backfire at all!
According to this horrible chart Hitler would probably be Ironblood, maybe Copper, i don't know much about his IQ but based on the Nuremberg IQ tests it should be at least 115
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