Zoomers
#21
(05-06-2022, 12:03 AM)Hardcore Happiness Wrote: In general zoomers orient themselves more towards the driving personalities than the actual media produced (which unceremoniously falls under the odious umbrella term "content"). Artists who have picked up on this tendency engage their audience by doing instagram lives and getting their audience vicariously invested in their success as content creator rather than strictly as a musician. Getting the spotify streaming numbers up there becomes a community goal rather than an organic result of audience listening habits. Twitch is the preferred entertainment media for many zoomers, a place for content creators who really create nothing at all (but foster extractive parasocial bonds around their online persona) and the whole platform is structured around becoming invested (quite literally) in personalities enough to help them surpass monetary goalposts.

The appeal of these streamers is in their "relatability": "you too can become famous by playing video games and having no personal qualities of note". Zoomers have a tendency to see themselves as beings of pure information, which, when combined with the detachment from physical space that a wired upbringing provides, manifests as a propensity for maladaptive daydreaming and an uncanny susceptibility to aspirational advertising. I myself have unconsciously self-inserted into the skins of thousands of people (both real and fictional), and in my more tender and vulnerable moments often wish to shed my pathetic flesh suit and retreat permanently into the Wired.

The explosion of superficial hobbies / "hustle and grind" / trans- and queershit also stems from this tendency. If you are nothing but information, why not try to shape yourself into the most interesting information possible? Why engage in any self-directed task that doesn't augment, nurture, or improve your information? Der Zoomer does not seek to act in accordance with his private character or moral compass, but with the caprices of an anonymous voyeur, the archetypal internet browser stumbling upon his social media profile. You can't really call this narcissism, because a narcissist's idealized self originates from within, whereas this pathology originates from without - it's simply extreme oversocialization, a strip-mining of the inner world.

(05-06-2022, 12:03 AM)Hardcore Happiness Wrote: How many zoomers have a favorite album? How many zoomers even listen to albums?

I do, though I found it on a music-sharing website and so can't call it "my" favorite like my forebears were accustomed to doing.
#22
(04-20-2022, 10:56 AM)Milk Wrote: Many adults are under the impression that reading of any kind is beneficial so they give their kids/students YA schlock as long as it keeps them turning those pages.

Reading lots of YA is both a sign of high intelligence and genuinely beneficial and healthy. Children that read a lot probably have around 120 IQ compared to 100 IQ for children that don’t. Of course 120 IQ doesn’t guarantee being intelligent or successful, it is still quite mediocre, but it beats out being a literal retard with 100 IQ. To be an intelligent person you must read lots of books so that you can read very quickly. Reading is a prerequisite for gaining knowledge, being able to think logically, and having a sophisticated internal monologue. You cannot gain knowledge from YouTube videos and podcasts you are a retard if you do that. Reading very quickly is also a prerequisite to typing very quickly and basic computer skills which are necessary to be a proper human being.

You also need to be able to read high volumes to learn proper English grammar and vocabulary. If you cannot type or speak in proper English then you are not a proper human; you are an ape or a southerner that speaks zero languages. 70% of people people speak like “yo wassup imma be like aint nothin”.

Fake obstructionist office jobs are a real thing, but they require far more intelligence than blue collar work because at least the email bureaucrat needs to be sentient and capable of communication beyond grunting, as well as using a computer. You cannot blame high IQ people for being forced into unproductive work when every opportunity to put their superior IQ to use is barred by the government, unions, and incompetent executives.

High IQ people are beneficial to society in ways that go beyond economic productivity, such as being pleasant to be around, being able to have a conversation in English, being beautiful, having high IQ children, and creating and maintaining the world of philosophy. I will always side with high IQ people over subhuman tradies.

#STEMright #IQaristocracy #rationality #perfectSATscore

One more thing: Often just relaxing and doing what feels good is the healthiest thing for you, as long as it is not an addiction or trauma-induced compulsion. YA stories are designed to be entertaining to children and that is a very healthy and wholesome thing. Reading fiction is much healthier for your brain than reading nonfiction because 1. fiction is less boring and causes you less stress and 2. fiction is mostly true while nonfiction is overwhelmingly false. Reading high volumes of nonfiction will cause you to become a gigantic narcissistic fagot who is balding and wrong about everything like logo or tinkzorg or yeerk p. YA does not fill your brain with leftist dogshit and cognitive dissonance so children who read lots of YA have a much better chance of growing up to be pleasant people.
#23
(05-06-2022, 09:56 PM)BillyONare Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 10:56 AM)Milk Wrote:
Quote:One more thing: Often just relaxing and doing what feels good is the healthiest thing for you, as long as it is not an addiction or trauma-induced compulsion. YA stories are designed to be entertaining to children and that is a very healthy and wholesome thing. Reading fiction is much healthier for your brain than reading nonfiction because 1. fiction is less boring and causes you less stress and 2. fiction is mostly true while nonfiction is overwhelmingly false. Reading high volumes of nonfiction will cause you to become a gigantic narcissistic fagot who is balding and wrong about everything like logo or tinkzorg or yeerk p. YA does not fill your brain with leftist dogshit and cognitive dissonance so children who read lots of YA have a much better chance of growing up to be pleasant people.
This really depends on which YA you're reading. There's stuff that's pretty much anime, and there's John Green. Schools being what they are can't stop pushing that growing section of explicitly untrue fiction. Look at the state of the D&D fandom, these people probably read YA. This argument you're making for YA I generally agree with but it's not like YA is the only enjoyable reading that exists. The tropes of modern established YA lend themselves rather easily to untruth, older popular reading is more grounded and honest. Adventure stories, murder mysteries, etc. YA shit probably did lay the foundation of my literacy, but I don't think it had to be that. I only really got into reading after I found ebook piracy and could develop my own tastes, which immediately left that stuff behind.

A good example of YA suitable and enjoyable reading that isn't YA is the Australian novelist Matthew Reilly. Has anybody here heard of him? He pretty much writes ultra-lean action movies, like Tom Clancy but fast and fantastical. He also wrote one that wasn't about killing people which was pretty much YA but more masculine and autistic. You know thinking about it now I'd say *he* was the foundation of my literacy more than anybody who wrote YA proper. Like a step between YA readability and hard "adult" subject matter.

He's also an amazing success story, having self published a novel while a law student and then having it be discovered by real publishers, who gave him a two book deal which snowballed into success.
#24
Issue with YA literature is that a lot of it is designed to appeal to fat teenage girls and/or homosexuals. Leftist propaganda too. Just browse through the teen section at your local library, chances are you'll pick up nothing but pulp. (At least in America.)
#25
(05-06-2022, 10:34 PM)anthony Wrote:
(05-06-2022, 09:56 PM)BillyONare Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 10:56 AM)Milk Wrote:
Quote:One more thing: Often just relaxing and doing what feels good is the healthiest thing for you, as long as it is not an addiction or trauma-induced compulsion. YA stories are designed to be entertaining to children and that is a very healthy and wholesome thing. Reading fiction is much healthier for your brain than reading nonfiction because 1. fiction is less boring and causes you less stress and 2. fiction is mostly true while nonfiction is overwhelmingly false. Reading high volumes of nonfiction will cause you to become a gigantic narcissistic fagot who is balding and wrong about everything like logo or tinkzorg or yeerk p. YA does not fill your brain with leftist dogshit and cognitive dissonance so children who read lots of YA have a much better chance of growing up to be pleasant people.
This really depends on which YA you're reading. There's stuff that's pretty much anime, and there's John Green. Schools being what they are can't stop pushing that growing section of explicitly untrue fiction. Look at the state of the D&D fandom, these people probably read YA. This argument you're making for YA I generally agree with but it's not like YA is the only enjoyable reading that exists. The tropes of modern established YA lend themselves rather easily to untruth, older popular reading is more grounded and honest. Adventure stories, murder mysteries, etc. YA shit probably did lay the foundation of my literacy, but I don't think it had to be that. I only really got into reading after I found ebook piracy and could develop my own tastes, which immediately left that stuff behind.

A good example of YA suitable and enjoyable reading that isn't YA is the Australian novelist Matthew Reilly. Has anybody here heard of him? He pretty much writes ultra-lean action movies, like Tom Clancy but fast and fantastical. He also wrote one that wasn't about killing people which was pretty much YA but more masculine and autistic. You know thinking about it now I'd say *he* was the foundation of my literacy more than anybody who wrote YA proper. Like a step between YA readability and hard "adult" subject matter.

He's also an amazing success story, having self published a novel while a law student and then having it be discovered by real publishers, who gave him a two book deal which snowballed into success.
 

I only read one of his books, as a child. The one about the hover car racing. Never looked into his other stuff. 

Surprised to hear him classed as anthonycore at first. But then I've never any else, and the one I've read is about car racing, featuring lots of keyed racial stereotypes (in fact, most of the ethnic minorities are villains, now that I recall). And the "main rival" is quite anime-esque.
#26
"Zoomer faggotry" - maybe this deserves it's own thread, but one characteristic trait of the younger generations - the sexual deviants are genuine circlejerking hugboxing pansies. Even their faggotry is soft and disgustingly non-offensive. A spew of "memes" with cartoon characters on "pride" flags often with some imbecilic catchphrase, and the character itself is rarely confirmed to be some sort of queer, just is "suspect." I blame millenilol fujoniggers partially for this.

Simply, because most zoomoid faggots aren't actually faggots, it's a "tribal" identifier - dare I say "gay" is now a meta-ethnicity, qualifying them for an ethnostate (read: antimatter bomb testing field the size of a small country), it's shallow and "signalling" instead of being more fundamental. But there's a good "catch" for us here - I will conduct an experiment of trying to inject more BAP-style homoeroticism into zoomfaggot media, as the most politically active zoomers that aren't RW are such faggot types, "stealth subliminal rerouting" might be possible as they will dare not call out faggotry even if it implies things they don't like
#27
It makes me proud to see another brave Zoomer political soldier ready and willing to go deep deep deep undercover as a faggot. Godspeed, young man, Godspeed.
#28
(06-06-2022, 05:18 PM)Svevlad Wrote: Simply, because most zoomoid faggots aren't actually faggots, it's a "tribal" identifier - dare I say "gay" is now a meta-ethnicity, qualifying them for an ethnostate (read: antimatter bomb testing field the size of a small country), it's shallow and "signalling" instead of being more fundamental.

This is spot on. It feels like a fandom captured by the subculture commodification process: The power of the individual within the group diminishes, common points of interest become "identities", businesses rush in to pander to these new identities (a shrewd strategy for gays in specific), organic communities dissolve into larger structures devoid of the driving spirit, and "posers" overshadow seasoned members until all the folk wisdom and history is lost. Gay communities started tight-knit due to outside pressure and expanded as they became more accepted, but I think the natural maximum size for this is the gay neighborhood. Even something as ravenous as gay male libido can be sated with a population that size, especially if it becomes a tourist spot. There is an obvious outside pressure driving the creation of the global "LGBT community", clearly one that is financial and political. However, the female side is also a significant factor in the formation of this structure, as gays and lesbians historically only banded together to defend against government interference and lesbians did (and do) a great deal of this organizing.

It has been such a success that the term "the X community" is getting thrown around a lot to empower new voter blocs from communities that don't even exist, like the #stopasianhate psyop cementing the "AAPI community". Rhetorical devices created for "inclusion" reframe how people perceive social frameworks until they become real, at which point they are used for personal gain. "The left can't meme" but they are very much aware of memetics and use it far more effectively than the right.
#29
They use non-funny but subtle memetics. And the existence of "gay neighborhoods" not only proves that Americans have the strongest self-segregation instinct on the planet, but that faggots really are at this point their own ethnicity, Jew style
#30
(06-07-2022, 05:41 PM)Svevlad Wrote: They use non-funny but subtle memetics. And the existence of "gay neighborhoods" not only proves that Americans have the strongest self-segregation instinct on the planet, but that faggots really are at this point their own ethnicity, Jew style
They speak as if they were one, too. It's not uncommon to hear gay people complaining about how there aren't other gays in their workplace, at a party, or in a class they're taking. They act as if they're the lone nigger living in the suburbs, or as if the lack of other people of their kind constitutes a sort of cultural vacuum that dearly needs fixing. The Good Natured Liberal ethos of saying 'gays are just like us' is regularly proven false by how gays view themselves in relation to straight people: most of them don't want to be 'like us' and will tell you that to your face. Hence why "Heteronormativity" is a term you'll regularly see fags employ to complain about something not prioritizing them and their ilk.

(06-07-2022, 04:36 PM)Frank Wrote:
(06-06-2022, 05:18 PM)Svevlad Wrote: Simply, because most zoomoid faggots aren't actually faggots, it's a "tribal" identifier - dare I say "gay" is now a meta-ethnicity, qualifying them for an ethnostate (read: antimatter bomb testing field the size of a small country), it's shallow and "signalling" instead of being more fundamental.
This is spot on. It feels like a fandom captured by the subculture commodification process: The power of the individual within the group diminishes, common points of interest become "identities", businesses rush in to pander to these new identities (a shrewd strategy for gays in specific), organic communities dissolve into larger structures devoid of the driving spirit, and "posers" overshadow seasoned members until all the folk wisdom and history is lost.
Both of these points are good. It makes little sense that the number of people identifying as homosexual or trans should skyrocket so much, and also differ so much by generation. A small upward tick might make sense, but the generational divide certainly doesn't. Much like there are "Transtrenders," many of whom are simply straight people who disdain their straightness and identify as "non-binary," there are a number of people who feel 'just being straight' is uncool and end up identifying as 'bisexual,' or the more trendy term, 'queer.' College Lesbaianism has essentially just spread to the other sex now, and it's also coming in a new form of questioning your gender, not just your sexuality.
#31
^ Both of your points spot on from my observations.
#32
I find it completely impossible to tell whether or not younger Millennials and Zoomers are gay or not because they all have the gay voice and gay mannerisms.
#33
(06-09-2022, 11:51 AM)Coyote Wrote: I find it completely impossible to tell whether or not younger Millennials and Zoomers are gay or not because they all have the gay voice and gay mannerisms.

The weight of the heterosexual/homosexual distinction is severely diminished for the Zoomer generation. The 20th century anxiety of being outed as "gay" is simply not present; feminine mannerisms and homosexual affections do not have a solid edge against a man's social standing, they are not attributes that are treated as shameful or repulsing. This stems from the current prestige of homosexuality that prevents normies from really censoring such behaviors. For example, a standard young masculine group may make fun of a strident fag in their social sphere, but they will at least begrudgingly value a Wholesome Gay Friend in their circles, they won't have the capacity to truly humiliate him for his gayness.

This makes for a 'porous' break between hetero and homo, in the modern mind there is a porous barrier into sexual deviancy and gender non-conforming in such a way that its transgressing is banal and relatively without consequences, and that makes "being gay" more dependent of cultural self-identification than of outward signals and acts, as acting like gays will not so much represent "being gay" as partaking in prestigious base desires and self-degradation (A zoomer favorite!). In more "intellectualized" spaces (closer to academia, more developed consumer and internet stratum) and for women, this suffocating effect of homo prestige is even worse. The jailbait will say she's nonbinary until she hits the wall. The future post-doctorate will commit Non-Culturally-Appropriated version of seppuku over anti-gay Twitter microaggressions of when he was 8 years old in 2012, the ambitious online TRPG group will chastise anyone who isn't enthused by the inevitable gender transition of one of their members, the naive science fiction fan will think that it is good that we as a society have nullification fetish representation on Star Wars, and, as a result of this lack of chastising and facility of deviancy, the young racist will masturbate to femboy porn like it's no big deal.

Zoomer guys can use makeup and paint their nails and it means nothing, they are simply "playing around" and will say that actually it is more masculine to do so as a display of confidence, veering into a leftist-gay subculture but still being 100% straight in practice and any homophobic banter against this among its cohort will not dare to be sincere.
#34
While I appreciate zoomers rejecting the awful millennilol obsession with zen-like minimalism, they will have to answer for the fact that I can't find reasonably priced PC parts without EPIC GAMER branding and fragile cases made out of glass. They will also have to answer for their crimes against anime.
#35
(05-06-2022, 10:34 PM)anthony Wrote:
(05-06-2022, 09:56 PM)BillyONare Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 10:56 AM)Milk Wrote:
Quote:One more thing: Often just relaxing and doing what feels good is the healthiest thing for you, as long as it is not an addiction or trauma-induced compulsion. YA stories are designed to be entertaining to children and that is a very healthy and wholesome thing. Reading fiction is much healthier for your brain than reading nonfiction because 1. fiction is less boring and causes you less stress and 2. fiction is mostly true while nonfiction is overwhelmingly false. Reading high volumes of nonfiction will cause you to become a gigantic narcissistic fagot who is balding and wrong about everything like logo or tinkzorg or yeerk p. YA does not fill your brain with leftist dogshit and cognitive dissonance so children who read lots of YA have a much better chance of growing up to be pleasant people.
This really depends on which YA you're reading. There's stuff that's pretty much anime, and there's John Green. Schools being what they are can't stop pushing that growing section of explicitly untrue fiction. Look at the state of the D&D fandom, these people probably read YA. This argument you're making for YA I generally agree with but it's not like YA is the only enjoyable reading that exists. The tropes of modern established YA lend themselves rather easily to untruth, older popular reading is more grounded and honest. Adventure stories, murder mysteries, etc. YA shit probably did lay the foundation of my literacy, but I don't think it had to be that. I only really got into reading after I found ebook piracy and could develop my own tastes, which immediately left that stuff behind.

A good example of YA suitable and enjoyable reading that isn't YA is the Australian novelist Matthew Reilly. Has anybody here heard of him? He pretty much writes ultra-lean action movies, like Tom Clancy but fast and fantastical. He also wrote one that wasn't about killing people which was pretty much YA but more masculine and autistic. You know thinking about it now I'd say *he* was the foundation of my literacy more than anybody who wrote YA proper. Like a step between YA readability and hard "adult" subject matter.

He's also an amazing success story, having self published a novel while a law student and then having it be discovered by real publishers, who gave him a two book deal which snowballed into success.

A pretty well thought-out take on YA I saw a while ago: There's certainly good stuff here and there but it should totally be cut out by the ages of 13-15. You'll notice that the forerunners of modern YA are all anti-establishment drivel (Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Divergent, and many more). I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with "anti-establishment" but you'll quickly realize that the "establishment" in most of these novels is racist/discriminatory/bigoted or suppressing the liberality of the young protagonists. At some point Harry Potter stops being about the wizarding world and starts being about a rebellion against le racist ethno-nationalist wizards that now control the government. The point is to teach your kids that "Magic is Might" is a bad thing and that Voldemort is pure evil for creating a world where "purebloods" don't have to hide in fear. 

These books primed multiple generations for "activism." Every "activist" superwholock tumblr art hoe imagines herself as the smart and stubborn 16 year old protagonist of a young adult novel. To me, good YA is stuff like The Chronicles of Narnia or The Hobbit or anything Michael Crichton wrote. Even then, YA should be like practice reading. It's sugary fluff to be consumed quickly in preparation for something more wholesome.

I agree completely with the general sentiment of the thread that zoomers are incredibly ideologically fluid and aesthetically influenced. It's the reason why you see those charts of a zoomer's "political compass journey" jumping around past multiple axes in a few short years. I could probably get most of my normie irls (male zoomers) to ascribe to Eastern Orthodoxy or Catholicism or "Duginism" or whatever the hell I wanted within a few weeks just by inundating them with content cranked out of photoshop files. These people go from surface-level libertarianism to "le based Mexico" to "le based Russia" in a few short months. Perhaps I need better friends.

When thinking about this, I wondered if I could raise a force of 3.8 million zoomers behind some aesthetically pleasing "based" meme ideology. This idea is immediately shot down by the fact that there will never be such thing as a "force" of zoomers. I am convinced there has been no other generation as lazy, spineless, and unmotivated. What good is 3.8 million zoomers if they won't do anything and treat ideology/philosophy as nothing but another vapid personality trait for their social façade? 

- Godvvins, Zoomer
#36
(05-06-2022, 12:03 AM)Hardcore Happiness Wrote: In general zoomers orient themselves more towards the driving personalities than the actual media produced (which unceremoniously falls under the odious umbrella term "content"). Artists who have picked up on this tendency engage their audience by doing instagram lives and getting their audience vicariously invested in their success as content creator rather than strictly as a musician. Getting the spotify streaming numbers up there becomes a community goal rather than an organic result of audience listening habits. Twitch is the preferred entertainment media for many zoomers, a place for content creators who really create nothing at all (but foster extractive parasocial bonds around their online persona) and the whole platform is structured around becoming invested (quite literally) in personalities enough to help them surpass monetary goalposts.

I think this is because "content" is free and replicable at zero marginal cost on the internet, while status and recognition are increasingly scarce and valuable commodities. Zoomers are invested in ecelebs because other zoomers are invested in them. It's interesting to look at "cancel culture" through this lens: when people idolize their favorite ecelebs as a sort of surrogate identity, it doesn't take much to flip that into ressentiment. Maybe I'm going down the wrong track here, but I get the definite sense many zoomers dance along the knife's edge between social-status obsession and nihilistic rejection of social approval.
#37
I'm surprised there's been no mention of perhaps the single biggest cultural influence on Zoomers- SpongeBob Squarepants. There's isn't a single one that didn't grow up watching it; most can quote it on command. You can trace much of their meta-ironic humor back to the absurdist humor of SpongeBob.

Also, Squidward is the sadistic failed normie burnout par excellence.
#38
(10-05-2022, 01:49 PM)Manteuffel Wrote: I'm surprised there's been no mention of perhaps the single biggest cultural influence on Zoomers- SpongeBob Squarepants. There's isn't a single one that didn't grow up watching it; most can quote it on command. You can trace much of their meta-ironic humor back to the absurdist humor of SpongeBob.

Also, Squidward is the sadistic failed normie burnout par excellence.

I see Squidward as less of a sadist and more of a target for sadism. His offense against the world is taking himself seriously and finding the world disappointing. For this it's taken for granted that he can be the subject of any joke and deserves endless ridicule. His patience is endlessly strained, he's constantly repressing and compromising to maintain peace with his surroundings. But despite this most can unthinkingly accept that any moment of frustration and breaking of patience is a wrong on his part. The world is absurd and silly and everyone around him is more or less a perfect innocent, but imagine Squidward as a real person surrounded by other real people. The Squidward type of person exists more or less as presented, but irl loud neighbours are the worst thing ever, and not excused by childlike nature and a world that runs on absurdity. Squidward is the one with the closest to real depth of thought and feeling in a cartoon world, and he's always losing, always hurt and humiliated, and it's always at the hands of someone we recognise as a sub-moral actor who can't really be held accountable for what's going on. Do you see the picture of the world that emerges from this? Do you see the real dynamics playing out here? The spirit of the Squidward/Spongebob dynamic is that if you're dumb enough the world owes you an easy time, and it'll came at the expense of the smarter people around you. They have the capacity to put up with it so they will, you don't so you won't.

The show is not a conspiracy to subliminally normalise this understanding of the world, this understanding is so normal that it got into the show without anybody even needing to think about it.

And as for the show in general, it's dog-people media. It's anti-anime. It's popularity is sad and predictable in societies which are afraid of seriousness and higher feeling. The Squidward thing of course ties into this. The show itself isn't just low and silly, it's a war against anything that would aspire above it. Maybe that's extreme, as Spongebob didn't conspire to prevent other shows from being made. It presented something silly, and the world gladly met it where it was. It can't make you silly. It's just a silly show for silly people, and it found an enormous and lasting audience.
#39
(05-06-2022, 09:56 PM)BillyONare Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 10:56 AM)Milk Wrote: Many adults are under the impression that reading of any kind is beneficial so they give their kids/students YA schlock as long as it keeps them turning those pages.

Reading lots of YA is both a sign of high intelligence and genuinely beneficial and healthy. Children that read a lot probably have around 120 IQ compared to 100 IQ for children that don’t. Of course 120 IQ doesn’t guarantee being intelligent or successful, it is still quite mediocre, but it beats out being a literal retard with 100 IQ. To be an intelligent person you must read lots of books so that you can read very quickly. Reading is a prerequisite for gaining knowledge, being able to think logically, and having a sophisticated internal monologue. You cannot gain knowledge from YouTube videos and podcasts you are a retard if you do that. Reading very quickly is also a prerequisite to typing very quickly and basic computer skills which are necessary to be a proper human being.

You also need to be able to read high volumes to learn proper English grammar and vocabulary. If you cannot type or speak in proper English then you are not a proper human; you are an ape or a southerner that speaks zero languages. 70% of people people speak like “yo wassup imma be like aint nothin”.

Fake obstructionist office jobs are a real thing, but they require far more intelligence than blue collar work because at least the email bureaucrat needs to be sentient and capable of communication beyond grunting, as well as using a computer. You cannot blame high IQ people for being forced into unproductive work when every opportunity to put their superior IQ to use is barred by the government, unions, and incompetent executives.

High IQ people are beneficial to society in ways that go beyond economic productivity, such as being pleasant to be around, being able to have a conversation in English, being beautiful, having high IQ children, and creating and maintaining the world of philosophy. I will always side with high IQ people over subhuman tradies.

#STEMright #IQaristocracy #rationality #perfectSATscore

One more thing: Often just relaxing and doing what feels good is the healthiest thing for you, as long as it is not an addiction or trauma-induced compulsion. YA stories are designed to be entertaining to children and that is a very healthy and wholesome thing. Reading fiction is much healthier for your brain than reading nonfiction because 1. fiction is less boring and causes you less stress and 2. fiction is mostly true while nonfiction is overwhelmingly false. Reading high volumes of nonfiction will cause you to become a gigantic narcissistic fagot who is balding and wrong about everything like logo or tinkzorg or yeerk p. YA does not fill your brain with leftist dogshit and cognitive dissonance so children who read lots of YA have a much better chance of growing up to be pleasant people.

Never saw this. While I agree YA is beneficial for the sharpening of reading skills and improvement of vocabulary, this is only helpful to a point, eventually children who show aptitude should be encouraged to read more challenging work for further intellectual development. The professional / tradie section of this post doesn't interest me and is largely irrelevant so I won't address it beyond this sentence. I think you vastly underestimate the potential harm of YA in your last paragraph, while relaxation is definitely healthy and necessary its important to insure the mode of relaxation isn't harmful; I don't know if you're aware of how many ugly women were inspired by Harry Potter and the Hunger Games to fight the hecking patriarchy but its shockingly common. A pretty large amount of YA IS indeed full of leftist dogshit, homosex fantasies, and cognitive dissonance inducing portrayals of reality. As for your final point, we weren't discussing nonfic but if you want to avoid the grim fate of norwood bookcelism: go for tasteful cindywalks like nietzche, allow your own mind time to develop away from the oppressive symbols of the writer, but don't forsake nonfiction entirely, fiction can rot your brain just as easily as nonfic anyways.
#40
(10-09-2022, 11:56 PM)Milk Wrote: I think you vastly underestimate the potential harm of YA in your last paragraph, while relaxation is definitely healthy and necessary its important to insure the mode of relaxation isn't harmful; I don't know if you're aware of how many ugly women were inspired by Harry Potter and the Hunger Games to fight the hecking patriarchy but its shockingly common. A pretty large amount of YA IS indeed full of leftist dogshit, homosex fantasies, and cognitive dissonance inducing portrayals of reality.

This. If anything, the child's reading selection should be carefully curated until he or she is past the vulnerability of childhood and can properly dissociate fiction from reality. There's a staggering amount of propaganda and delusion in the general fiction genre, and too many authors let their opinions influence their works, even to the extent of treating the main characters as mouthpieces. Even so called "RW" literature can suffer from this (for example, for reasons unknown and incomprehensible to me, I've seen someone describe wheel of time as rightist literature one would recommend for children, which is myopic at best and retarded at worst).



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