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Has "self-own" been mentioned here yet? It's quite possibly the dumbest norwoodism there is. Really drives home the twitchy neuroticism of norwood mind.

(07-16-2023, 08:18 PM)a system is failing Wrote: [ -> ]Has "self-own" been mentioned here yet? It's quite possibly the dumbest norwoodism there is. Really drives home the twitchy neuroticism of norwood mind.

Is that one inherently bad or do they just use it retardedly?

(07-16-2023, 09:32 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-16-2023, 08:18 PM)a system is failing Wrote: [ -> ]Has "self-own" been mentioned here yet? It's quite possibly the dumbest norwoodism there is. Really drives home the twitchy neuroticism of norwood mind.

Is that one inherently bad or do they just use it retardedly?

I wouldn't say it's inherently bad but Norwoods vehemently search for any supposed hypocrisy in arguments so they can present themselves as the righteous and perennial figure in any real or hypothetical situation i.e. "Self-proclaimed Nazi that retweets anime girls? Doesn't he know the Nazis would've killed him first? (not me tho even tho I love niggers) What a self-own!" It's a lack of creativity and (actual) narcissism where they believe that every society that has existed and will exist would cater to their ostensibly universal truth, so the anime Nazi has to be the oblivious hypocrite here.

(07-20-2023, 02:59 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-16-2023, 09:32 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-16-2023, 08:18 PM)a system is failing Wrote: [ -> ]Has "self-own" been mentioned here yet? It's quite possibly the dumbest norwoodism there is. Really drives home the twitchy neuroticism of norwood mind.

Is that one inherently bad or do they just use it retardedly?

I wouldn't say it's inherently bad but Norwoods vehemently search for any supposed hypocrisy in arguments so they can present themselves as the righteous and perennial figure in any real or hypothetical situation i.e. "Self-proclaimed Nazi that retweets anime girls? Doesn't he know the Nazis would've killed him first? (not me tho even tho I love niggers) What a self-own!" It's a lack of creativity and (actual) narcissism where they believe that every society that has existed and will exist would cater to their ostensibly universal truth, so the anime Nazi has to be the oblivious hypocrite here.

I feel like the key here is that it's another case where libtards exercise their Mister Data like understanding of humour and memes. Self-own is one you catch someone in an obvious logical error. There is no error in holding beliefs a libtard holds to be bad as your own beliefs.

This example is more extreme of course. More like a total disregard for the humanity of non-libtards where contrary beliefs are just these meaningless tumours upon your character that are spawned by unwholesome existence.

(07-20-2023, 02:59 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]hypocrisy in arguments

I probably should have said more, but it was directly inspired by the post Anthony linked, and though a self own is a possible condition that can occur, the last several times I have seen it just seems it's settled into that gay little zone of mediocre wherein memes like "batman couldn't have gotten this confession out of me" reside.

It just ends up being yet another way to invoke group ridicule. Oh look! You self owned because you admit you identify with an outcast! Whoopsie, guess you just admitted your social life is as bad as Lovecraft as a young man! What a self own!

It basically has nothing to do with logical consistency or accidentally refuting your own point when used this way. See also "tell me X without telling me X".

Restating objectively good/commendable acts and beliefs to make them look bad. For instance (all of which are taken from Kiwi Farms, which truly does deserve its own thread):

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Quote:I never really had any huge violent outbursts, except maybe for threatening one annoying piece of shit with locked-in syndrome who'd always be wheeled in to my music class for some reason.

You threatened a completely fucking paralyzed guy?

You are a goddamn piece of shit.

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Quote:While I never really look in the mirror EVERY day, it feels kind of bad that this was what I was made into. Again, I shouldn't be like this, but so be it. They crafted me into this individual who places himself above all those he sees unworthy because of how he was placed with those who ARE unworthy, regularly and repeatedly. It sometimes feels like I'm just this one guy whose viewpoint is never seen because of the simple fact that the world is against me.

The world is against you because you want to euthanize the disabled, you horrible little man.

 

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Quote:While I never really look in the mirror EVERY day, it feels kind of bad that this was what I was made into. Again, I shouldn't be like this, but so be it. They crafted me into this individual who places himself above all those he sees unworthy because of how he was placed with those who ARE unworthy, regularly and repeatedly. It sometimes feels like I'm just this one guy whose viewpoint is never seen because of the simple fact that the world is against me.

Dude.

What in the fuck.

You are literally saying that a bunch of special ed people in high school that watched a fucking cartoon has turned you into a sociopath.

And that we should sympathize with you.

Are you even human? Are you some defective android running Windows 98?

I picture a lion roaring while reading the above posts which are being attacked.

It gets better: just look at how they react when he says that he wouldn't accept his child if they came out deformed or mentally deficient.

Quote:Well he seemed he'd be better off dead than the way he was then, and hearing him make annoying noises during my graduation to the point where he had to be wheeled out only made me realize further how much he desperately needed something done to him.
I mean, if I had a child who grew up to be like him, I'd probably just give up, either take him out or ship him out somewhere where I wouldn't deal with him.
To me, it's either I have a fully functioning child that I can be proud of or I have no child.

A perfectly reasonable thing to do, but because we live in ZOGworld we have to pretend it's wrong and evil because... because it just is, okay?!

Quote:What's it like to look into the mirror every day and see a soulless monster gazing back at you?

Quote:You are beyond fucked up, and I can say, with all sincerity, that I am fucking happy that you will never reproduce.

Quote:I still can't get over the fact that Barneyboy got so worked up over a non-verbal disabled person.

Like......seriously? Are you even for real?

Quote:I don't give a shit if this is A-Logging or not, I hope someone doxxes this asshole, and then proceeds to tell everyone of his family and friends about his activities online. It's what he deserves for being such a piece of shit.

Quote:Why are you such a selfish cunt? That's all you care about. Not a single ounce of empathy for that guy you went psycho on, huh?

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Quote:It sometimes feels like I'm just this one guy whose viewpoint is never seen because of the simple fact that I'm a giant asshole with no redeeming features.

FTFY.

Some other picks for the 'wood lexicon: "selfish/selfishness", "cunt/piece of shit/asshole"

(07-22-2023, 08:49 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Some other picks for the 'wood lexicon: "selfish/selfishness", "cunt/piece of shit/asshole"

Excessive cursing in general, while obviously not distinctly Norwood, is a typical feature. Relevant to WIACNSYC, profanity is their baseline for expressing passion, and anyone who forms an articulate value judgment against something without resorting to edgy-but-safe cursing* is a goddamn shitting fucking dorkerino, my guy. Probably a reaction to getting chastised for swearing by their Evangelical family members back in the 2000's.

*(in reality actually very overused and denatured cursing, and definitely no slurs)

(07-22-2023, 01:11 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]I picture a lion roaring while reading the above posts which are being attacked.

The thread for person who made the above posts in question features a collection of his 'worst posts'. As you would expect, 'worst posts' in this sense is a thinly-veiled shorthand for soyrage over his refusal to abide by inane moral standards.

Quote:He hates the non-verbal mentally-disabled who like Barney:
x86x2 said:
It's hard to tell, really, mainly because the exceptional individuals I saw watching Barney, they were mostly non-verbal.

Quote:He thinks the reason people don't want to exterminate the disabled is because they'll be criticized for it, rather than because it's fucked up:
x86x2 said:
Mentally disabled people will never simply disappear. There will always be people who try to say that they deserve to live simply because they know they'll be criticized for saying otherwise when in reality, it would be best to full out euthanize them.

Quote:The handicapped should be shipped off for experimentation:
x86x2 said:
That's because if there truly was a God, like the Catholic school told me there is, then he'd be given eternal life, shake off his mortal coil and be a free spirit. Or at least that's what they're trying to make me think.
Ok, fine, at the very least, ship him off for scientists to do experiments on him, alright?

Quote:The planets aligned just to make him an edgelord:
x86x2 said:
Perhaps this is indeed the case, that it was indeed more a circumstantial sort of situation and all the planets just so happened to align to make all the events occur so close to each other that I become who I am today. Sometimes it feels like my whole life was crafted simply to be this treacherous experience that drained my soul.

(07-22-2023, 08:49 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:What's it like to look into the mirror every day and see a soulless monster gazing back at you?

Quote:You are beyond fucked up, and I can say, with all sincerity, that I am fucking happy that you will never reproduce.

Quote:I still can't get over the fact that Barneyboy got so worked up over a non-verbal disabled person.

Like......seriously? Are you even for real?

Quote:I don't give a shit if this is A-Logging or not, I hope someone doxxes this asshole, and then proceeds to tell everyone of his family and friends about his activities online. It's what he deserves for being such a piece of shit.

Quote:Why are you such a selfish cunt? That's all you care about. Not a single ounce of empathy for that guy you went psycho on, huh?

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Quote:It sometimes feels like I'm just this one guy whose viewpoint is never seen because of the simple fact that I'm a giant asshole with no redeeming features.

FTFY.

It screams of hypocrisy that they should be shocked at that poster when the Farms is dedicated to discussing the mentally ill. If the actions and behaviors of lowcows reflects illness, why should the physically ill be excluded? It isn't as if all of the lolcows lead to interesting content, some are actual schizophrenics or verging on total mental disability. Why is this the breaking point?

There's a "tard baby" general there that basically has the same pro euthanasia thought but with a libtard bent (legalizing abortion because "fundies create retards"). The breaking point is if you are capable of thinking the same thoughts as a good citizen (calling Ethan Ralph fat), you are marked safe from MDS (Millennial Death Squads).

I believe that if a pattern of language or behavior has become common on Twitter or Youtube comments within the last 4 years, someone in this thread will call it Norwood regardless of any other characteristics it has. The only counterexample I can think of is the image of the gigachad. Am I wrong, or are there other examples? Perhaps I can come to know this term by what it is not.

Cunny is an example. I think to an extent, most things posted here are not Norwoodisms, but have been adopted by Norwoods. This sort of rape of ideas from subcultures is a very important part of the Norwood mind; they must be on the cutting edge of internetisms. I’m not sure exactly why this is, something to do with their diseased minds surely. I think there should be a clarifier between explicitly Norwood terms such as “the children yearn for the mines”, “x porn”, and general terms used to portray their opponents as sexually deficient, adopted Norwoodisms like most negrolatrous terms used on twitter, and non-Norwood terms like the BAPspeak talked about previously.

“I haven’t ever seen Norwoods say cunny. Are we just calling everything Norwood now?”

"I've seen a guy wanting to Kayne and Lynch maxx who also posted endless loli pictures."

“Sam Hyde is not Norwood.”

(07-23-2023, 05:46 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Cunny is an example. I think to an extent, most things posted here are not Norwoodisms, but have been adopted by Norwoods. This sort of rape of ideas from subcultures is a very important part of the Norwood mind; they must be on the cutting edge of internetisms. I’m not sure exactly why this is, something to do with their diseased minds surely. I think there should be a clarifier between explicitly Norwood terms such as “the children yearn for the mines”, “x porn”, and general terms used to portray their opponents as sexually deficient, adopted Norwoodisms like most negrolatrous terms used on twitter, and non-Norwood terms like the BAPspeak talked about previously

I am a newfag in more than one way, so doing an Epick Explaining post about this is improper, but I still find this questionable. 
If we are still following the line of thought introduced by Lord Mikka on the subject, the phrases of the Norwood personality are in union with the Millennial mind, same with a Wholesome Chungus worldview. The discussion of Norwoodism was mostly introduced from polemical conditions, resulting in certain keywords used by Millennials (think one of the earliest posts in the thread, which was the frequent mention of "nerd"/"dork"). It is important for the Norwood character to adopt these phrases because they think it assists them in dispelling counterarguments, and they can also attempt to don the mask of sophistication if they are pushed far enough. The trouble with doing Norwood Studies is that the audiences and online groups of heavensite and other places leads to newer and newer phrases to use for rhetorical purposes: "folks" can become "my dude", and "brother in Christ" can substitute both if the first two are lambasted and parodied enough. The underlying spirit behind the posts do not change, though. These terms are adopted, but they originate and are used chiefly by them; anyone not falling into the immediate rubric is an unwitting servant of its spread.
Are"the children yearn for the mines" and "x-porn" explicit Norwood phrases? I wouldn't say so, but I'm sure some would use it. The children mines thing is a shit conventional meme, popular because it's inoffensive in design yet also pointing to a historical event that's supposed to be offensive. It's safe edgy. The concept of Norwood itself is ultimately more useful as a way to characterize Millennial arguments than anything else, because there's a definite risk where Norwood = Flavor of the Month Popular Thing Mentioned on X Social Media Site.

Checked the heavensite lately, and witnessed the proliferation of "these guys wouldn't survive a Modern Warfare/Xbox Live lobby" among norwoods/troons against chuds who espouse the average views (homophobia, transphobia, racism, etc) of those who inhabited such lobbies.  Just another example of "them fragile snowflake chuds getting TRIGGERED by casual pederasty and transvestism" again.

(09-06-2023, 12:49 PM)Lohengrin Wrote: [ -> ]Checked the heavensite lately, and witnessed the proliferation of "these guys wouldn't survive a Modern Warfare/Xbox Live lobby" among norwoods/troons against chuds who espouse the average views (homophobia, transphobia, racism, etc) of those who inhabited such lobbies.  Just another example of "them fragile snowflake chuds getting TRIGGERED by casual pederasty and transvestism" again.

This I could see as a Norwood vocal tic. For one thing, it's a zombified version of 2014-2016, adopting the phrase of "triggered" after it's been used by nearly everyone. Like with the personal fantasies of troons or Chapo-types, it is a vision of the past which removes any real qualities, an empty dream. The hypocrisy of believing this when everyone back then would say "faggot" or "nigger" on Xbox Lobbies must be known to them, but the polemical worth of flipping it against "Chuds" is too tempting. Some of these people may or may not have Troll's Remorse, having the false assumption that going against "Chuds" is the radical conclusion to yelling at others on a Modern Warfare lobby. I am reminded of one thought-pattern, which is "4Chan wasn't always right-wing, it was the heckin' Stormfront people who infiltrated! 4Chan is just contrarian, we just like making fun of those in power!". If they were actually alive during that time, and now have pedestrian Dem-Soc views today, then believing these things is far more preferable to acknowledging that they are pop culture cattle with a decrepit worldview.