03-07-2023, 09:22 PM
I think having an age-matched sweetheart is a sweet thing if it works out well. Important to note that men should hit their prime earlier too, be participating in commerce and having children as young as is feasible.
(03-07-2023, 07:49 PM)parsifal Wrote: [ -> ]is it more humiliating than being chained to your age-matched sweetheart who already hit the wall while you're in your prime?
(03-07-2023, 07:42 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Being a boy in school and having your female peers fuck older men is humiliating.
Kill all paedos.
(03-07-2023, 10:00 PM)parsifal Wrote: [ -> ]i suppose it's a matter of perspective then. i don't think random girls in your grade dating college guys is humiliating at all.
(03-07-2023, 11:22 PM)Datacop Wrote: [ -> ]Close proximity with someone like you'd have at school effectively makes all the schoolgoers a tribe and you are being made to watch as other men fuck your tribeswomen.
(03-07-2023, 11:22 PM)Datacop Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, those so-called older guys weren't free either; they could have easily been arrested and made a sex offender for no good reason, but it was definitely a frustration of mine as a teenager that I was forbidden to have adult responsibilities, and thereby, have freedom, until a certain age.
(02-12-2023, 10:59 AM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]^Gem. The white matter part might not even be true. I remember a twitter thread or blog post saying that “the brain doesn’t mature until 25” was the biggest and most unscientific scam in all of of neurology; it’s based on zero evidence. I wish I could find it. It wasn’t arguing against age of consent or anything, just exposing pseudoscience.Joseph Bronski wrote a whole book debunking this kind of pseudoscience. It is called "An Empirical Introduction to Youth". Was that on your mind, or something else?
(04-24-2023, 08:19 PM)T. L. Wrote: [ -> ](02-12-2023, 10:59 AM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]^Gem. The white matter part might not even be true. I remember a twitter thread or blog post saying that “the brain doesn’t mature until 25” was the biggest and most unscientific scam in all of of neurology; it’s based on zero evidence. I wish I could find it. It wasn’t arguing against age of consent or anything, just exposing pseudoscience.Joseph Bronski wrote a whole book debunking this kind of pseudoscience. It is called "An Empirical Introduction to Youth". Was that on your mind, or something else?
(04-30-2023, 10:38 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]>Hello Joseph. You can make another account if you'd like. You got banned for repeating yourself incessantly and refusing to advance discussions, not for your beliefs.Joseph you're being petulant again. You'll never get a trillionaire client acting like this.
Take meds
>And as for unscientific scams, as I keep saying everywhere, nobody actually believes these things on account of internalised bad science, so "debunking" is rather pointless in that sense. What is the point of the introduction to youth book when we already have John Gatto? Same point as exsouciology or whatever that garbage is called. Bronski (who may or may not be in this thread) wants his name pinned to existing discoveries and ideas.
Lmao you're fucking retarded
(04-30-2023, 10:43 AM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]“nobody actually believes these things on account of internalised bad science”
Actually everypony does. Every normie believes this. Bronski doing good work.
(04-30-2023, 10:43 AM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]“nobody actually believes these things on account of internalised bad science”
Actually everypony does. Every normie believes this. Bronski doing good work.
(03-07-2023, 07:42 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Being a boy in school and having your female peers fuck older men is humiliating.
Kill all paedos.
(05-01-2023, 10:40 AM)avalon Wrote: [ -> ]Ironically this shitpost has the most true essence of any post in this thread. We don't live in some sort of hypothetical society where men need to wait in order to "gain honor" or whatever it is that Varg believes. Trying to enforce the social norms of antiquity onto the psychological framework of the modern day just leads to immense suffering. All women in first-world countries now are fundamentally broken and dating some autist twice her age that browses /fit/ is not going to change that. Forcing some kid in his teens to be without any relationship experience until his mid 20s is not going to create a functioning member of modern society, it's just going to create someone with a completely warped sense of self. In the past there used to be a social framework that would allow a young boy some sort of hope or another outlet for "becoming a man" but now there isn't even anything that remotely resembles a clan structure which could provide meaning beyond the satisfaction of immediate passions. Life is a completely social experience and no amount of autistic rationalization or abstraction can take being an incel as a teenager into something beyond just being a beta male, literally. Also, though it's not of immediate relevance, love matters a lot more when you're younger and it's cruel to deprive the youth of that. Speaking for myself, I'm literally soulless and can't view any woman I start a relationship with as anything but a utility. This is no way to live.
(05-01-2023, 10:40 AM)avalon Wrote: [ -> ]Ironically this shitpost has the most true essence of any post in this thread. We don't live in some sort of hypothetical society where men need to wait in order to "gain honor" or whatever it is that Varg believes. Trying to enforce the social norms of antiquity onto the psychological framework of the modern day just leads to immense suffering. All women in first-world countries now are fundamentally broken and dating some autist twice her age that browses /fit/ is not going to change that. Forcing some kid in his teens to be without any relationship experience until his mid 20s is not going to create a functioning member of modern society, it's just going to create someone with a completely warped sense of self. In the past there used to be a social framework that would allow a young boy some sort of hope or another outlet for "becoming a man" but now there isn't even anything that remotely resembles a clan structure which could provide meaning beyond the satisfaction of immediate passions. Life is a completely social experience and no amount of autistic rationalization or abstraction can take being an incel as a teenager into something beyond just being a beta male, literally. Also, though it's not of immediate relevance, love matters a lot more when you're younger and it's cruel to deprive the youth of that. Speaking for myself, I'm literally soulless and can't view any woman I start a relationship with as anything but a utility. This is no way to live.
(05-01-2023, 12:00 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ](05-01-2023, 10:40 AM)avalon Wrote: [ -> ]Ironically this shitpost has the most true essence of any post in this thread. We don't live in some sort of hypothetical society where men need to wait in order to "gain honor" or whatever it is that Varg believes. Trying to enforce the social norms of antiquity onto the psychological framework of the modern day just leads to immense suffering. All women in first-world countries now are fundamentally broken and dating some autist twice her age that browses /fit/ is not going to change that. Forcing some kid in his teens to be without any relationship experience until his mid 20s is not going to create a functioning member of modern society, it's just going to create someone with a completely warped sense of self. In the past there used to be a social framework that would allow a young boy some sort of hope or another outlet for "becoming a man" but now there isn't even anything that remotely resembles a clan structure which could provide meaning beyond the satisfaction of immediate passions. Life is a completely social experience and no amount of autistic rationalization or abstraction can take being an incel as a teenager into something beyond just being a beta male, literally. Also, though it's not of immediate relevance, love matters a lot more when you're younger and it's cruel to deprive the youth of that. Speaking for myself, I'm literally soulless and can't view any woman I start a relationship with as anything but a utility. This is no way to live.
By nature of competition and the high value young women have it very likely that young men will be out competed and their mate stolen. Not unique. But what about the excess of young men, what for them? Mannerbund, groups of young men roaming the hinterlands killing and raiding what ever they like. Latin America turned into a giant battle ground for American youth who could not obtain a girlfriend. This makes sense, a great way to channel their bloodlust. They return with their loot to the homeland and then can obtain girlfriend, works out. Society today wants impotent incel, it wishes to exhaust and ignore incel rage by castrating young men, steal all opportunities towards wealth and power to cope with inability to win sexually. America needs Fascism!
(05-01-2023, 12:05 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]The "competition" framing is bullshit and always will be within a society. Nothing happens without layers of social mediation. Young men are not "out competed". They're placed in a de facto jail and robbed of the opportunity to cultivate status, skill, experience, or really anything of value. Basically everything is only given today, nothing is won or earned. Most people make their preferences and biases plain in who they believe earned what's theirs (them and everyone they like) and who didn't (everyone else).
(05-01-2023, 12:17 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Good point on theory vs reality. I think this is an inevitable problem that all those who were given their position in life try to argue some kind of competition rhetoric in defense of the system that has rewarded them with their life style. I feel like this is where conservatives exist, staunch defenders of the regime. The small and petty who are content with their lot in life and defend the system that enables such petty things.
Anyway I wanted to ask you about developing sensitivity and channling bloodlust in the youth. Are these apposed positions or can they coexist? Is it simply difference classes of people, sensitive artist type vs hardened warrior or is their some kind of reconciliation between these types of people? Would sending the youth off to war stunt their sensitivity?
(05-01-2023, 10:40 AM)avalon Wrote: [ -> ](03-07-2023, 07:42 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Being a boy in school and having your female peers fuck older men is humiliating.
Kill all paedos.
Ironically this shitpost has the most true essence of any post in this thread. We don't live in some sort of hypothetical society where men need to wait in order to "gain honor" or whatever it is that Varg believes. Trying to enforce the social norms of antiquity onto the psychological framework of the modern day just leads to immense suffering. All women in first-world countries now are fundamentally broken and dating some autist twice her age that browses /fit/ is not going to change that. Forcing some kid in his teens to be without any relationship experience until his mid 20s is not going to create a functioning member of modern society, it's just going to create someone with a completely warped sense of self. In the past there used to be a social framework that would allow a young boy some sort of hope or another outlet for "becoming a man" but now there isn't even anything that remotely resembles a clan structure which could provide meaning beyond the satisfaction of immediate passions. Life is a completely social experience and no amount of autistic rationalization or abstraction can take being an incel as a teenager into something beyond just being a beta male, literally. Also, though it's not of immediate relevance, love matters a lot more when you're younger and it's cruel to deprive the youth of that. Speaking for myself, I'm literally soulless and can't view any woman I start a relationship with as anything but a utility. This is no way to live.
(05-01-2023, 11:08 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]When all of life is rendered and declared meaningless in the greater scheme of things the disadvantages and humiliations of youth become torture for the sake of it, work becomes toil, not having is pure deprivation.
Quote:"Instead I am reminded of the sad characters from the pages of Chekhov: sleepwalking through life, forever hoping that tomorrow things will somehow be changed for the better as they blindly allow opportunities for lasting happiness to slip through their fingers. But this is merely the natural outcome of conceiving of a human life as a series of revocable and inconsequential choices. We are, indeed, protected from certain risks, but we have correspondingly little to gain; we have fewer worries but no great aspirations. The price we pay for eliminating the dangers of intimacy is eliminating its seriousness."
(05-01-2023, 11:08 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]I don't ask for state mandated gf. But I would like to hear a good answer for why young men shouldn't. I don't think society has much of an answer. Only aggressive and baseless libtard moralism which is more abusive and enslavement oriented than anything christianity ever asked of us. There's no real promise of anything good in life anymore, just what you can chance into. It's amazing to me what people will tolerate.(I checked real quick and did not see a state-mandated GF thread)