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Filling the occasionally-mentioned niche of a "detached" version of KF. Neutral observations about figures of whatever note who exist online. Or at least keeping it relatively neutral. 

Incidentally this is maybe the first place online really fit to discuss one such person I have kept on eye on for the past six or seven years. It would be unsuitable to discuss such a person in a space with idiots who can't properly appreciate things. It goes without saying to the users of this site, but in case any others find this OP: don't go and start fucking with or raiding those mentioned here. There's a significant chance my OP alone will be one of the only posts online observing the figure in question, and others that are brought up here may also have small and fragile online presences that CAN be easily disturbed. Quiet the megalomaniac impulse for just a moment so we can theoretically have some Nice Things amongst ourselves. 

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Thankfully for all of us he provides his own (rather illustrative) theme to this thread. And it was actually on /mu/ where I first found Joe Aufricht, though not this "song", but another one of his classics known as "Horny with a Chick". This was a post in a cringe thread that had zero replies, and similarly the rest of the internet is more or less entirely ignorant of him. 



Joe's videos are either these chants and weird dances or extremely detailed recounting of a specific period of his life when he was a 13-14 and had a romantic obsession with a 9 year old girl named Diane. It's clear that Joe "has something" although much of the spastic, bizarre behavior exhibited above is clearly INTENTIONAL and fully under his control. Friends and I suspect that Joe is similar to Ulililia and has some form of extreme OCD. The period Joe recalls was a very active one and involved criminal charges against him due to his strange and often threatening behavior towards Diane and her parents.




I don't much care for the culture of the 60s and 70s, but I often feel considerable nostalgia for it. Like somehow memories my dad had of that time transferred through my blood into my own mind and I can just feel it. Joe Aufricht's detailed memory is sort of a living exhibit of this. The melancholy I feel at this time is the obvious and palpable sense of freedom. The world was just accessible enough that you were no longer bound for life to small, local customs and still too remote for the all-encompassing nanny state. I don't have any reason to believe Joe is making things up or telling us falsehoods. He tells a story at some point about a military recruiter telling him to lie and say he wasn't diagnosed with a mental illness and then deciding later on he didn't enjoy being in the military and telling them he lied, and thus being discharged. It doesn't seem like institutions or even just other people have such a lax attitude now. Just a cozy little trial run of the military and then you get out ezmode by telling them you actually lied. How fun. 



He's also apparently lived in the same house since the age he often tells stories about. Which just adds another layer to this theme of being a living exhibit of another time. Interestingly, Joe seems like a degenerate but nonetheless for an obviously somewhat crazy person he seems to get on in society okay. He seems to be able to make friends due to his eccentricity, not in spite of, and is in control enough his behavior to have a reasonably dignified existence insofar as someone like him could. 

I think Joe would have a MUCH worse life now. Both on the institutional level and in terms of his peers and the kind of friendships he would form. I think as is Joe got off pretty well, essentially being allowed to have this unusual OCD obsession with a girl way younger than him, stalk and do fucked up or weird shit to get her attention even to the point of making her family hate him to his heart's content, and get away with it and just live a normal / peaceful adult life. There's some very clear advantages to the old, neglectful approach to "mental health" on display here.

There's a lot more history than I have dug into here, due to Joe's compulsion his experiences are well-catalogued and even on a pre-internet cassette tape called "Mockery & Perversion". I wouldn't go so far as to call him an outsider artist, but he is a really good example of a KIND of outsider and how our previous society dealt with them and whst their ultimate outcome could look like.

I once saw a guy at court wearing a Metallica jacket. Like it was formal wear but metal merchandise. He looked kind of like this guy. Ageing metal guy is a very sad image.

Anyway as I said in the KF thread, here's Jaime Mantzel. He might get his own thread one day but for now he made his own youtube documentary about himself, no need for Down the Rabbit Hole.



We wonder about guys who would be doing worse today, or could have been doing better in other times. Mantzel is a really interesting case. Extraordinarily sharp guy who wants to always be doing stuff and is constantly frustrated by the world. Rather than going insane or burning out he's managed to secure a Captain Fantastic style existence for himself built just about entirely with his own two hands. This guy really does build constantly. I'm kind of amazed this guy doesn't own youtube considering how many niches he hits. He has kids, animals, builds bizarre shit, is very eccentric but positively sociable. Just watch the movie and see what I mean.

anthony Wrote:Just watch the movie and see what I mean.

Very interesting find. I watch a few people vaguely in this vein, but less extreme, more viral, parts of it remind me of CodysLab and others. Lot of WOMAN MOMENTS in this too, which seems common for intelligent proactive guys like this who are honest above all else. It's unquestionable Gynocracy is a big obstacle for these types, and I can imagine them drawing special ire from certain people who are big defenders of gynocentrism on twitter as well.

Steve Burns.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Burns

This might be the most depressing life story I've come across. Not because it is the most painful, the greatest example of wasted potential, or the most wrought with failure. It's that I've never witnessed such an extreme account of Prestige Mediocrity. I wouldn't be surprised if he was patient zero for some kind of Obama virus that needed to incubate in him in order to birth its final form: the Prestige Mediocrity Objecthead, Barack Obama himself.

Wikipedia Wrote:In 1994, Burns auditioned for Blue's Clues, thinking it was a voice-over role for a game show. ... Burns became "very involved" with the production of Blue's Clues from the beginning. One of the most challenging aspects of hosting the show was performing on the "blue screen" before the animation was added. Burns called it "maddening" and likened it to "acting at the bottom of a swimming pool". ... In a 2022 Variety interview, Burns revealed that he suffered from clinical depression while on the show.

Wikipedia Wrote:Burns's departure led to the resurfacing of rumors that had circulated about him since 1998, including death from a heroin overdose ... Burns made an appearance on The Rosie O'Donnell Show to dispel these rumors, and he and co-creator Angela Santomero appeared on The Today Show to help concerned parents extinguish the fears of kids who may have heard these rumors.

Wikipedia Wrote:According to Johnson, Burns never wanted to become a "children's host". He loved kids, but stated, "he could not make a life-long career out of it." Burns went on by saying, "I knew I wasn't going to be doing children's television all my life, mostly because I refused to lose my hair on a kid's TV show, and it was happening, fast."

Wikipedia Wrote:Burns worked on material for his first album, Songs for Dustmites, for two and a half years at a small studio in his home in Brooklyn ... One of the songs from the album, "Mighty Little Man", is used as the opening theme for the CBS series Young Sheldon. Burns appeared on the series in January 2020, playing a Star Trek enthusiast whom the title character meets.

These quotes are really all you need. All of it is so depressing, so desolate. Every sentence I've quoted here is hilarious to me. The frank presentation of his dreams coming true in this frictionless yet absolutely miserable way. Yet he is not "a failure". He is adored by millions. He 'succeeded' by the world's definition far beyond what was expected of him in both acting and music.

Here's a bit more:

https://twitter.com/nickjr/status/1435332689532440579

Absolutely brutal. Some of the highest concentration soyspeak I've heard. This video was meant as a reintroduction of him for the Blues Clues reboot. In which he plays a side character to the southeast Asian host.



With someone failing by default like Chris Chan, you can roll the dice a million times and only end up with more failures. Maybe there's something interesting there, but to me the best I've found is him playing Animal Crossing. Just him showing you how he sees the world while he was relatively undisturbed. Other than that it's meaningless to me. You can train a human to do anything, there is nothing interesting in itself about a broken failure in and of itself.


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What interests me is people with more agency. Those who live far above or below what they deserve, or occupy a place of importance (by the world's standards) far above or below what should result from that person's nature, with the feelings of mediocrity and failure present all the same. I am interested in the pain this causes them and how they manage or fail to reach a compromise with the world. I am not even slightly convinced that anyone today is living as they should be. So bring me records of the lives with the most fleeting moments of brightness, with the most strain to meet the world halfway, and the most broken promises. I demand to have it, NOW!

Promise-Ring Wrote:What interests me is people with more agency. Those who live far above or below what they deserve, or occupy a place of importance (by the world's standards) far above or below what should result from that person's nature, with the feelings of mediocrity and failure present all the same. I am interested in the pain this causes them and how they manage or fail to reach a compromise with the world. I am not even slightly convinced that anyone today is living as they should be. So bring me records of the lives with the most fleeting moments of brightness, with the most strain to meet the world halfway, and the most broken promises. I demand to have it, NOW!

I bring an offering. Bill Nye the Science Guy. This is a life of decline and degradation. His wikipedia alone is a fucking goldmine of this type you describe. The desperation. The striving. The simultaneous feeling of superiority and inferiority.



He was a young man with a hopeful future as an engineering drone at Boeing, but reached for the stars--that is, to become a comedic science explainer for children.

Wikipedia Wrote:Nye worked as an engineer for the Boeing Corporation and Sundstrand Data Control near Seattle. At Boeing, he invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor tube used on Boeing 747 airplanes.[19] He applied four times, unsuccessfully, for NASA's astronaut training program

In 1986, Nye worked as a writer/actor on a local sketch comedy television show in Seattle called Almost Live!. He first got his big break on the show from John Keister who met him during an open mic night. After a guest canceled, cohost Ross Shafer told Nye he had seven minutes of programming to fill. "Why don't you do that science stuff?" Shafer suggested. Nye entertained audiences with comical demonstrations, including what happened when you ate a marshmallow that had been dipped in liquid nitrogen

In 1993, collaborating with James McKenna, Erren Gottlieb and Elizabeth Brock, Nye developed a pilot for a new show, Bill Nye the Science Guy, for the Seattle public broadcasting station KCTS-TV.[34] They pitched the show as "Mr. Wizard meets Pee-wee's Playhouse" (KEK). Bill Nye the Science Guy ran from 1993 to 1998, and was one of the most-watched educational TV shows in the United States.

But like Icarus, Bill flew too high. With his wings singed, he became reduced to the White Neil DeGrasse Tyson. There's virtually nothing about his professional career from 1998 to the mid 2010s besides a few tidbits about various undeserved positions like being a "science advisor" to King Nigger or an honorary professorship at Cornell--but the key word there is undeserved.



An important aspect of his life is that he studied under Carl Sagan, yes THE LEGENDARY Carl Sagan, originator of the groundbreaking philosophy "The Universe is so fucking big and we're so fucking small and shit". In his post-Children's Public Access TV career Bill buys more and more into hysteriac climate change rhetoric--and now, because he's a Respected Thinker in the Scientific Comoooonity (he's King Nigger's top whitey afterall), he has a RESPONSIBILITY to EXPLAIN to you why you're a stupid science denying Chud.

Wikipedia Wrote:Nye said that his "concern right now ... [is] scientific illiteracy ... you [the public] don't have enough rudimentary knowledge of the universe to evaluate claims."[88] In November 2012, he launched a Kickstarter campaign for an educational aerodynamics game called AERO 3D, but it was not funded.

He also does Very Serious work like owning the Chud Creationists who hate science.

Wikipedia Wrote:In July 2016, Ham gave Nye a tour of the Ark Encounter the day after it first opened to the public. He and Ham had an informal debate while touring the structure, and footage from Nye's visit was subsequently included in the documentary film Bill Nye: Science Guy, released in 2017.

To cap off the "Science Advocacy" section, he is attributed one of the most powerful examples of soyrage I've ever seen:

Bill Nye Wrote:Here, I've got an experiment for you—safety glasses on. By the end of this century, if emissions keep rising, the average temperature on Earth could go up another 4 to 8 degrees. What I'm saying is the planet's on fucking fire. There are a lot of things we could do to put it out. Are any of them free? No, of course not—nothing's free, you idiots. Grow the fuck up. You're not children anymore. I didn't mind explaining photosynthesis to you when you were 12, but you're adults now and this is an actual crisis. Got it? Safety glasses off, motherfuckers.

In all its glory:



This takes some time to truly appreciate the brokenness and desperation. Inundate yourself in the disgusting reality: This is a man clinging to fame from a Public Access TV show for children from over 20 years ago, appealing to your sense of nostalgia both to stay relevant, and Do Something That Matters because he feels a Responsibility for his unworthyness to be around PhD's and real Scientists (remember he's a Mechanical Engineer, the lowest of the Engineering disciplines). He's a priest who doesn't know the Catechism. Notice how he uses words like "motherfucker" and "fuckin'" while lecturing adult children on climate change as a contrast to his claim to fame. A little juxtaposition to drive home just how Serious he is about the Very Serious issue of climate change, but in a light and "funny" way to the soylinneals who know only to speak through irony.

You've had the shot, here's the chaser:

Wikipedia Wrote:Nye revealed his family's plight of ataxia. Due to his father's, sister's and brother's lifelong struggles with balance and coordination, Nye decided to not have children to avoid the chance of passing on the condition, even though he "dodged the genetic bullet" himself. (Is this a heckin Eugenics?)

I didn't think it could get worse, but to finally cap off the feeling of inferiority, not only is he an ME famous for a children's show surrounded by PhDs he is totally outclassed by in terms of scientific understanding (from his perspective at least), he virtually admits his family line is a genetic failure and decides to end his bloodline. It's certainly out of Good Will and For the Children and definitely not out of an extreme feeling of inferiority and dread at his own downward spiral--a downward spiral that should, by all respects, should be seen as a success. He's found himself in a very prestigious community of scientists, he's been on all the very hip talk shows, and even acknowledged by the Coolest Nigger of Them All. Even with all this, he knows something is lacking in his life, he knows he shouldn't be where he is, deep down, he knows he should've just stayed at Boeing.



But at least he's better than you, science denying Chud!

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