Female Sexuality, Sex Positivity, & the Therapeutic World

[Handi]

So why do women shriek and cry when criminals gets shot? It's very clearly violence and dominance, but they can't stand it when law abiders or law enforcers kills criminals in cold blood.

Because they are told to. People need to be a bit quicker with this. Not every single thing women do is indicative of some kind of deeper female nature. Nobody thinks this way about other men, it doesn't apply to women either.

I disagree with this and agree with the guest immediately above me. Women and niggers are both deeply unable by their natures to grok the white man's state of mind here, that is, having such force and clarity of internal purpose as to be able to righteously shoot a flagrant lawbreaker in cold blood and then carry on about the rest of one's day. In a high civilization such an act would be a mere nuisance, like stopping to pick up a piece of trash from the sidewalk, and the weaker types who can't stomache that responsibility would get to enjoy the fruits of civilization without operating its inner workings.

I don't observe that women have sophisticated mental structures for territory and property, but rather access. So I infer that justified territorial violence appears just as shocking to them as unprovoked interpersonal violence, and it's a frightening reminder of how contingent their own lives are at the same hands. Also, to answer the question posed by Guest, women are only aroused by acquisitive violence, not defensive violence. It's not sheer martial skill that women find sexy, or else they'd be stalking special forces operators, what's sexy is "he takes whatever he wants". If vanquishing one's foe isn't followed by looting and rapine, not sexy.

So a violent act of defense is a shocking event to a woman, a visceral reminder of her own helplessness, and it isn't counterbalanced by the thrill of desire and reward. And then who is responsible for this awfulness if not the victor? He's clearly the guy in charge because he won, so why couldn't he have just shot the thief in the leg instead...? This is all clearly very retarded written out, but my analysis isn't retarded, it's women who are retarded. The fact that there are men who also think this way is no objection, it only speaks to the faggotry and total female mind-capture of those men.

As for niggers, they're quick to commit violence over material objects but they're still deeply agitated by it even in victory. When a gang of thugs pull a drive-by on dey opps they have to go smoke and drink all night to dissipate the violent spirits that took possession of them ("that dawg in me"), credit to Aidan for this observation. The white man's ability to kill as a rational solution to a mere obstacle is mysterious and terrifying to them in a similar way that it is to women, although not for the same reasons.

[Nigel Carlsbad]

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[Guest]

Virgo (clean virgin sign) Sextiles Scorpio (penis and filth sign). A woman who has a propensity to purity will be rewarded proportionally with the contrast of ravaging, and less pure will move to be ravaged regardless. The pure anime girl who's 100% loyal exists in an alien world not controlled by the demonic influences utilizing our local star system.

[cats]

I feel we're straying a bit from the intended topic, but that's probably my fault for making the OP a bit vague. No matter.

Most posts here seem like they're working off a PUA understanding of women that is two generations out of date, and a very pessimistic interpretation at that. Yes, hybristophilia is certainly real — but anybody who says that women are earnestly attracted to negro criminals gets their information from demoralization operatives exclusively. No, women are not attracted in the slightest to Tyrone the proto-hominid who dies crying for mama after getting into a gunfight with a morbidly obese police officer and losing. Tyrone is not a conquering barbarian chieftain, he is a functionally retarded chimpanzee whose continued existence is predicated entirely on the Saxon's slumber. As I have stated here before, women are social creatures who take to religious hysteria very strongly. This screaming and crying about dead niggers is just another layer of dishonesty. 

I do think women's sexual feelings towards violence are worthy of discussion, but I dissent that it's not as simple as "violent = sexy". First of all, the violence they find sexually appealing must be personal and "sensual". Secondly, the perpetrators they like must be complex figures who have rich inner lives. Thirdly, the perpetrators must be, of course, physically attractive, even if only unconventionally so. This basically excludes all of the scum you'd find in an American prison excepting serial killers and mass shooters — both of which have had a consistent stable of fangirls since the destruction of civilized society in the 60s up to today.

Serial killer girls are sort of old hat, and I'm sure everybody present knows all the important things there are to know about them. Have you ever heard of Call of Duty girls?








Somehow, some way, young women found out about the new CoD games with their "operators" and discovered that they found this Austrian special forces member, "König", very sexually attractive. They also find Ghost and almost any other masked operator attractive, but the masked man/objecthead phenomenon deserves a post of its own. I compel you to search for any video featuring this character and scroll down to the comments. 70% thirsty women, 30% confused non-White males.

I think this character is amusing as a bit of a case study. He's huge and violent, yes, and it's clear these women find that appealing, but if you actually listen to the character's voice lines, he speaks in a high-strung German accent that gives off the impression that he's a bit nerdy. Women find that appealing, too, and often give him a backstory about being shy and self-conscious, hence the frogman's veil. These "finishers" were obviously animated by South/Central Asian refuse who thought it would make their gaudy operator OCs look cool, but when you make the huge and violent but also nerdy and Germanic operator do them... Well, women are going to interpret them in a very different way.

The CoD girl "fandom" is blessed and somewhat unique in that the proship vs. antiship slave war has not touched them to any significant degree. Perhaps it's because there's very little in the way of "shipping" and thus no heckin' problematic age gaps to worry about, only lusting over individual characters. I'm not sure they even know female operators exist in the new CoDs. It's all very primeval. I imagine this is how women behaved about real men in purer, primordial times.

Conclusions are not my strong suit, so I'll leave you with these two comments from the video I linked above:



Almost anywhere you find girls being honest to themselves, you will also find a horde of mulattos/mulattas banging out skull emojis and ebonics to let them know that they think this is all very weird and that they should touch dat muhfuggin' grass. It seems like a biological impulse — these two are probably just interloper CoD players who needed to get their good boy points with the longhouse for the day.

While you consider the complete lack of Arguments these two put forward, I want you to consider this earnestly: who has a stronger vision for the future of Call of Duty? Toxicwasteman and RookieDookie, the players, who probably care about weapon builds and the new sportsball nigger celebrity cameos? Or Wannabebunnigorl, who has never played CoD in her life, but whose stomach does kickflips when the masked German operator executes a woman? I propose that a Call of Duty made for the latter rather than the former would be a much finer and compelling product.

[Illustrious]

Virgo (clean virgin sign) Sextiles Scorpio (penis and filth sign). A woman who has a propensity to purity will be rewarded proportionally with the contrast of ravaging, and less pure will move to be ravaged regardless. The pure anime girl who's 100% loyal exists in an alien world not controlled by the demonic influences utilizing our local star system.

Go back to apisforum, spigot.

[Oldblood]

Somehow, some way, young women found out about the new CoD games with their "operators" and discovered that they found this Austrian special forces member, "König", very sexually attractive. They also find Ghost and almost any other masked operator attractive, but the masked man/objecthead phenomenon deserves a post of its own. I compel you to search for any video featuring this character and scroll down to the comments. 70% thirsty women, 30% confused non-White males.

I think this character is amusing as a bit of a case study. He's huge and violent, yes, and it's clear these women find that appealing, but if you actually listen to the character's voice lines, he speaks in a high-strung German accent that gives off the impression that he's a bit nerdy. Women find that appealing, too, and often give him a backstory about being shy and self-conscious, hence the frogman's veil. These "finishers" were obviously animated by South/Central Asian refuse who thought it would make their gaudy operator OCs look cool, but when you make the huge and violent but also nerdy and Germanic operator do them... Well, women are going to interpret them in a very different way.

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[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHT5bSGJ90E]Skyrim - Ondolemar Dialogue - YouTube

This should interest you. The (ostensibly) female Skyrim players in the comments go wild for the head of the high elf SS. He's just being authorative, aggressive and haughty.

With masked characters they can project their own ideal man behind them.
I think really it comes down to when someone they already find attractive does something violent or shows dominance. 
The smarter and whiter women tend to love the refined charmer capable of violence rather than say the drug-dealer type. The bottom line is that the worst thing you can be is harmless.

[a system is failing]

I think really it comes down to when someone they already find attractive does something violent or shows dominance. 
The smarter and whiter women tend to love the refined charmer capable of violence rather than say the drug-dealer type. The bottom line is that the worst thing you can be is harmless.

We keep outsourcing this to third party recipients for reasons I cannot understand. Women have not had a problem with me being "harmless" or incapable of dominance of others, they have had a problem with me being incapable of violence TOWARDS THEM. I don't know how much clearer it can be made, either. The comments Cats is posting are women saying they want this stuff done to them. The Evopsych Caveman in your head is as dead as Cool Nigger. We don't need to come up with reasons for why women think this our that about violence because of evopsych, interpsonal conflict between men stuff. They LIKE the violence in itself. It's probably much more indicative of deeper realities about sex and differentiation itself, seeing as women are the ones who get fucked and not the ones who do the fucking (receiving vs giving violence).

Note how this framework immediately and unambiguously answers the "dilemma" of criminals. A criminal is far more likely to commit violence to them than a civilized person is. A bad boy is far more likely to commit violence to them than a goody goody two-shoes. And the other thing to note with supposed female "nature" is that we live in the time of the feral woman. All politically incorrect impulses about sex are denied to the point of absurdism. They're denied to the point these impulses break down and begin channeling themselves through whatever crack in the repression exists. As per government fiat, most of these cracks are weird and fetishistic. The basic male commenters are correct to look at these female fans with deirision, what they are doing to the franchise is fucked up and inappropriate. They only seem pathetic in their blind upholding of some notion of sanity in a time where this obviously doesn't matter in the slightest: our culture and society considers it sane and reasonable for women to try and invade a male space and gay it up and evil and insane to give women any kind of grounded or realistic notion of what their lives and their heterosexuality actually means when exercised fruitfully.

As always, what we see is a consequence of not taking any of this seriously, not disimilar from troons. If no room is allowed for anarchy in these sexual impulses then they will only become more warped. If society will never support a straight man in asserting himself physically or mentally over a woman this is what you get. Women who came from saner times did not have to fantasize about getting their own necks snapped in order to get off. In non-misandric society, the potential for male violence exists in an immediate and grounded way, it exists right there in the room. Whereas now women have to go extravagant lengths to find any convincing potential of male violence against themselves.

[Sunspot]

These proposals are unconvincing. Men earnestly lust over violent or crazy women to a similar degree. If there were many female serial killers, we would see the same phenomenon of serial killer fanboys. — In fact, we do, to the extent they exist. See "mugshot shawtys" or "mugshawtys", dommy mommy, femme fatale, "crush my skull with your thighs", not to mention the universality of "I can fix her/him".


It is easy to explain: the idea of being with someone dangerous or unpredictable provides a thrill which enhances the peak of the sexual/romantic experience, which exhibitionism, voyeurism and taboo fetishes such as incest do also. Doing something wrong or dangerous raises adrenaline, it gets the heart beating, just like seeing one's crush or new lover.



Mugshawtys:

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"I can fix her":

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Mother who killed her children:

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"I'll visit her [in for attempted murder] every day in prison if necessary"

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Dommy mommy:

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A skyrim example for you @Oldblood (purely serendipitous):

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She qualifies as "authorative, aggressive and haughty," does she not? Even most tsunderes fall under that description.

"crush my skull uwu":

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[BillyONare]

Most men are women. It doesn't say anything about men when a lot of y-chromosomed doughfolx on reddit act a certain way.

[Oldblood]

One must consider the performative aspect of these comments, they're really just repeating unfunny memes (so were the female YT comments to a degree).
Its one of the new many safe ways in which heterosexuals get vocalise their sexuality - absurdity. The case being made is that they are not attracted to the criminal element or violent nature itself like women are, it's merely baggage.
Commenting 'dommy mommy milkers' or 'I can fix her' on Twitter is hardly similar to actual letters written to killers.

[LoIiMerchant]

These proposals are unconvincing. Men earnestly lust over violent or crazy women to a similar degree. If there were many female serial killers, we would see the same phenomenon of serial killer fanboys. — In fact, we do, to the extent they exist. See "mugshot shawtys" or "mugshawtys", dommy mommy, femme fatale, "crush my skull with your thighs", not to mention the universality of "I can fix her/him".


It is easy to explain: the idea of being with someone dangerous or unpredictable provides a thrill which enhances the peak of the sexual/romantic experience, which exhibitionism, voyeurism and taboo fetishes such as incest do also. Doing something wrong or dangerous raises adrenaline, it gets the heart beating, just like seeing one's crush or new lover.



Mugshawtys:

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"I can fix her":

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Mother who killed her children:

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"I'll visit her [in for attempted murder] every day in prison if necessary"

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Dommy mommy:

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A skyrim example for you @Oldblood (purely serendipitous):

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She qualifies as "authorative, aggressive and haughty," does she not? Even most tsunderes fall under that description.

"crush my skull uwu":

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Saw a Xeet a few weeks ago about how hetero male sexuality is so demonized that wretched mommyshit hornyposting is the only way straight men can express themselves without being "creepy": taking the submissive and nonthreatening role (@Oldblood mentioned this briefly). I'll see if I can find it. Here:

https://twitter.com/0xAlaric/status/1768408967493935198

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Also saw a tweet I won't bother finding by this young MtF tranny who talked about how uncomfortable being sexual towards women made him feel. Now being (literally) emasculated and unthreatening, he is comfortable.

[Guest]

These proposals are unconvincing. Men earnestly lust over violent or crazy women to a similar degree. If there were many female serial killers, we would see the same phenomenon of serial killer fanboys. — In fact, we do, to the extent they exist. See "mugshot shawtys" or "mugshawtys", dommy mommy, femme fatale, "crush my skull with your thighs", not to mention the universality of "I can fix her/him".


It is easy to explain: the idea of being with someone dangerous or unpredictable provides a thrill which enhances the peak of the sexual/romantic experience, which exhibitionism, voyeurism and taboo fetishes such as incest do also. Doing something wrong or dangerous raises adrenaline, it gets the heart beating, just like seeing one's crush or new lover.



Mugshawtys:

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"I can fix her":

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Mother who killed her children:

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"I'll visit her [in for attempted murder] every day in prison if necessary"

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Dommy mommy:

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A skyrim example for you @Oldblood (purely serendipitous):

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She qualifies as "authorative, aggressive and haughty," does she not? Even most tsunderes fall under that description.

"crush my skull uwu":

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[anthony]

Also saw a tweet I won't bother finding by this young MtF tranny who talked about how uncomfortable being sexual towards women made him feel. Now being (literally) emasculated and unthreatening, he is comfortable.

I remember that. There was a whole thread of them coming forward and saying the exact same thing. Would be a nice thing to preserve for the record.

[cats]

This should interest you. The (ostensibly) female Skyrim players in the comments go wild for the head of the high elf SS. He's just being authorative, aggressive and haughty.

With masked characters they can project their own ideal man behind them.
I think really it comes down to when someone they already find attractive does something violent or shows dominance. 
The smarter and whiter women tend to love the refined charmer capable of violence rather than say the drug-dealer type. The bottom line is that the worst thing you can be is harmless.

That is indeed interesting and illustrative of my point. Skyrim in general is heavy NPDEAita fuel in many subtle ways, but it's also something for older generations than I typically observe. Like, 25 to 35. It's also rather vanilla compared to what might be called a bit of derangement surrounding masked CoD operators like Koning and Ghost. Women tend to be more honest the younger they are.

You can embed YouTube videos with "(video=youtube)(/video) [replace parentheses with brackets]", by the way.

We keep outsourcing this to third party recipients for reasons I cannot understand. Women have not had a problem with me being "harmless" or incapable of dominance of others, they have had a problem with me being incapable of violence TOWARDS THEM. I don't know how much clearer it can be made, either.
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The basic male commenters are correct to look at these female fans with deirision, what they are doing to the franchise is fucked up and inappropriate. They only seem pathetic in their blind upholding of some notion of sanity in a time where this obviously doesn't matter in the slightest: our culture and society considers it sane and reasonable for women to try and invade a male space and gay it up and evil and insane to give women any kind of grounded or realistic notion of what their lives and their heterosexuality actually means when exercised fruitfully.

I'm not really sure what you mean here, particularly with the "dilemma of criminals". I have already made my thoughts clear: women are overwhelmingly not attracted to the tattooed sewer scum that actually goes around murdering their girlfriends. This is brutish and low, and typically associated with the tide of color's males (#JBW). This is not to say they have never portrayed a (fictional) criminal of this sort as attractive in girl media, but these depictions are so disconnected from the real thing that I would posit they have nothing to do with each other outside of . Violence is always an aspect, but it's an aspect that must be considered alongside other factors. I've already stated those other factors, so I won't repeat myself here.

Regarding the last part: if you believe that women being attracted to men who are capable of inflicting violence on them is natural, I'm not sure why you would consider this development a negative, outside of vestigial Warhammer-American sensibilities. Perhaps you think the male element of the Call of Duty "fandom" has some worth? I certainly don't. These people are worms. Call of Duty sucks now, and maybe always has, because it appeals to people like them. They can have the capeshit in Call of Duty Mobile (I compel you to scroll around CoD Mobile's wiki to find out what sort of audience Activision is targeting), mainline CoD being turned over in full to weird girls would be a wholly positive development.

These proposals are unconvincing. Men earnestly lust over violent or crazy women to a similar degree. If there were many female serial killers, we would see the same phenomenon of serial killer fanboys.
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It is easy to explain: the idea of being with someone dangerous or unpredictable provides a thrill which enhances the peak of the sexual/romantic experience, which exhibitionism, voyeurism and taboo fetishes such as incest do also. Doing something wrong or dangerous raises adrenaline, it gets the heart beating, just like seeing one's crush or new lover.

This is something I didn't consider, and I think you're right to an extent -- but I also think LoliMerchant and Oldblood are correct to an extent, too. There is a degree of performance here. This is the "safe" manner of expressing heterosexual interest now. But I also think "femme fatale" and "femdom" are semi-universal male sexual fetishes that are too old to reasonably classify as inventions of Afro-Semitic feminist culture. Perhaps the manner in which it was appealing changed; older generations liked taming these women, younger ones have been whipped into liking being tamed by these women.

[Recent Friend]

Go back to apisforum, spigot.

Couldn't be him, he drinks the women juice and would think this statement is horribly simplistic (correct). Also he has anti-gnostic sentiments. I think it's Carlsbad.