Israel

[FrankLloydsWrongs]

You would not happen to have a name like Stein, Shekelberg or Goldstein would you? 

Do you also work an Israeli intelligence office influencing western far right discourse?

Because given both your profile flag, and your retarded and bad faith arguments, I genuinely would not be surprised if the person behind the pretty anime girl is a middle aged Mossad cyber ops employee.

You are a petty and thin-skinned man.

No I'm suspicious and cautious. Which is what keeps a man alive, free and unchained in this world of lies and deceit.

Come on man, why would a Mossad guy clearly put the Israel flag on his profile?

[The Green Groyper]

Why not? Irony is widely trafficked in these circles, so he would presume we’d take the flag as ironic posturing, not the truth.

[The Green Groyper]

TGD. It's the only lasting solution.

Total Goyim Death?

[Guest]

TGR. Total Gamer Respawn. The cloning facilities are online, you better watch out jewies

[august]

TGD. It's the only lasting solution.

Total Goyim Death?

Perhaps there is some sense to what our Striped PJ Nietzschean friend says. In a way, we may already be closer to it than ever before. Closer than some may want to believe, at the very least. That is to say, no longer is the "goy" that much of a goy at all.



On the other hand, maybe we can say that the goy is more goy... goy, all too stupid goy.

[Guest]

yo pajamas are you in the gene leaks? there are a million jews in the free data now
@Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean
https://onion.tube/watch?v=RP7rOPfhAAE

[Guest]

yo pajamas are you in the gene leaks? there are a million jews in the free data now
@Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean
https://onion.tube/watch?v=RP7rOPfhAAE

“Yo!” *links video of a nigger*

[Guest]

ugh you can't say "yo" and you can't watch a video which has a black person in it even though you don't have to watch the video you can just listen to it... because... AARRRGH STOP TRIGGERING MY ASSBURGERS THE CONCEPT OF A NIGGER MAKES ME FEEL VISCERAL PAIN OR SOMETHING

okay sorry anyway about the jews

[Guest]

okay sorry anyway about the jews

Coonye west anti-semitism

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[NuclearAbsolutist]

How do you solve a problem like Gaza?

Before 1945 there were rather simple fixes but those aren't allowed now, unless your in a nook far from America's care usually. And it goes without saying any population in a liberal democracy such as Israel will find the simple fix unimaginable in its evil among a significant portion of the population. But now something that genuinely has never happened in Israel's modern history that is a enemy force got past security(The state's reason for being is to keep Jew's safe) and struck the civilian population to the tone of 1200 dead and thousands wounded(And rising). The current language is at a minimum a call for the total removal of the organization that did that by any means. 

Already there are howls at the methods being employed(Which must be noted have been used before on and off)
https://www.voanews.com/a/un-agencies-ca...04880.html

"Civilians must be allowed to leave besieged areas if they wish to do so. Any restriction must be justified by a military necessity or may amount to collective punishment," she added. "This is clearly prohibited under international humanitarian law, and it could amount to a war crime."

But no member of the chattering class, nor I can predict if they make such a leap do a heavy and hard operation and leave or maybe try to manage Gaza again among a galaxy of possibles that only the heat of war can make final.



Time will tell, but if there's one thing I know for sure, 300k troops are not mobilized to help with sleep.

[The Green Groyper]

How do you solve a problem like Gaza?

Street by street bullet to the head. Biological weapons. 

It can be done-there is no problem involving hostile populations that cannot be resolved, if one is willing to finish them off with a sufficient application of firepower, relentless precision and an unlimited ROE with an objective of reducing the population to zero.

[august]

Time will tell, but if there's one thing I know for sure, 300k troops are not mobilized to help with sleep.

Modern warfare is very gay. They could glass the whole strip tomorrow for all I care... at least that would save us the façade of these mega mobilised ""militaries"" wasting heaps of time and pretending like they're something that died a long time ago. My opinion may be subject to change if we get confirmation that they will be sending in their shock troop battalion (IDF egirl instathots).

[NuclearAbsolutist]

shock troop battalion (IDF egirl instathots).

Fun fact:They aren't IDF but cosplayers rented out for PR(The most famous one was a Russian air soft player). And on the modern warfare question I have long come to the conclusion baring a total collapse of civilization not on the level of state collapse but on the level forging steel is lost, its logic will remain inescapable.

Not even The Saint's could fly above it. Nor will the IDF and Hamas entire strategy is based on exploitation of it as covered here:
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/these-are-the-...s-in-gaza/

Tactical Challenges Awaiting Ground Forces in Gaza

Combat in dense urban terrain is the most complex and difficult type of warfare a military can be directed to conduct because of the unique interaction of challenges—the dense physical terrain, the presence of noncombatants, restraints on the use of force required by laws of war, and the ubiquitous and real-time global attention on the conduct of a battle.

The last time that Israeli forces entered Gaza was in 2014, which means that Hamas and other combatant groups have had nearly a decade to prepare the defense of Gaza’s cities. Here is a list of the most likely challenges the IDF will face:

Rockets. Hamas has a substantial arsenal of rockets and mortars in Gaza. In 2014, the group fired an estimated six thousands rockets—long-, mid-, and short-range—during the fifty-day battle. It fired over 4,500 rockets in just three days beginning with its barrage on Saturday morning. A 2021 report assessed that Hamas had over eight thousand rockets, meaning that even if it has not increased its stockpiles over the past two years, it has thousands at its disposal with which to target assaulting IDF ground forces. In the 2003 battle for Baghdad, an Iraqi short-range missile destroyed the command post of a US Army brigade in the city. The brigade was conducting the now famous second “Thunder Run,” which would prove critical to the success of the entire battle. Yet such a critical strike by a rocket had the potential to change that outcome.

Drones. One challenge that will be markedly more severe than Israel has faced in its past urban warfare experience is the use of a full spectrum of drones—from military grade suicide drones to commercial, off-the-shelf quadcopters modified to drop munitions. Hamas released video of its forces using drones during its recent attack and showing larger drones in its inventory that are similar to Iranian ones used by Russian forces in Ukraine. As a rapidly growing feature of warfare, recent urban battles have incorporated drones more to a much greater degree than anything the IDF has faced before. During the 2022 Battle of Kyiv, for example, Ukrainian forces employed drones to surprise many observers by defeating the Russian military. They used drones ranging from the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 to made-from-scratch quadcopters to strike targets, call for indirect fire, and anticipate the movement of the Russian forces.

Tunnels. Based on intelligence gained during previous operations to combat Gaza’s tunnels,—including the 2021 Operation Guardian of the Wall, during which Israel reportedly destroyed sixty miles of tunnels in Gaza—there are hundreds of tunnels in Gaza. There is likely what amounts to an entire city of tunnels and bunkers under Gaza’s surface. As it did in 2014, Hamas should be expected to use tunnels offensively to maneuver attackers underground, keeping them both hidden and protected, to conduct surprise attacks. The group will also use them defensively to move between fighting positions to avoid IDF firepower and ground forces. In the 2017 Battle of Mosul, ISIS spent two years digging tunnels, which they used to move between buildings and fighting positions. This greatly contributed the fact that it took over one hundred thousand Iraqi security forces nine months and required destroying most of the city to clear it of enemy forces.

Antiarmor attacks. To enter a contested urban environment, military forces must lead with heavily protected engineer vehicles and tanks—and these must be survivable against the antiarmor weapons of urban defenders. In 2014, IDF vehicles faced Hamas firing a wide range of antitank guided missiles, such as Malyutkas, Konkurs, Fagots, and Kornets, as well as direct-fire rocket propelled grenades, including RPG-7s and the modern and capable RPG-29s. Both these types and other, modern versions of man-portable but effective weapons are easy to transport and conceal in the narrow and confined fighting positions of urban terrain. In the 2004 Second Battle of Fallujah, a single US battalion involved in penetrating the enemy defenses lost six M1A2 Abrams tanks (mostly mobility kills) to RPG volley fire. In the 2022 Battle of Mariupol, just a few thousand defenders used Kornets, NLAWs, Javelin, rocket-propelled grenades, and other antitank guided missiles to destroy many Russian vehicles, hold down over twelve thousands Russians soldiers, and ultimately hold their city for over eighty days.

Strongpoints and snipers. Hamas will seek to use a defense relying on close combat, strongpoints (heavy buildings made of concrete and steel and often with basements and tunnels), and snipers. In 2014, Hamas deployed between 2,500 and 3,500 fighters to defend Gaza using rockets, mortars, antitank guided missiles, rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns, and small arms mostly from protected strongpoints. In urban warfare history, a single building as a strongpoint can take days, weeks, or months to clear. In the 1942 Battle of Stalingrad a four-story building, known as Pavlov’s House, took a division of Germans over fifty-eight days to clear. In the more recent 2017 Battle of Marawi, multiple single buildings took the Philippine military days and in some cases weeks to clear. The IDF should expect to face both strongpoints and snipers once again—both of which have historically been major challenges for attacking militaries.

Human shields. It is well known that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. By doing so, the group is effectively engaging in what scholars have called lawfare, using the law of armed conflict and international humanitarian law—specifically their provisions on the protection of noncombatants—to restrict the actions an attacking military force can take in operations. And while Hamas has cynically used Palestinian residents of Gaza for this purpose in the past—establishing weapons caches and rocket firing points in densely populated areas—it is likely that it will also seek to use the 150 noncombatants kidnapped during the initial attacks over the weekend.

I believe anyone who thinks of themselves as a serious statesman would do well to put up a chair looking at Gaza, a live demonstration of such rules as infantry are the only ones who can take and hold ground are invaluable and have implacable lessons to anyone of any social and political order.

[The Green Groyper]

I honestly am bored already, I was hoping Hezbollah would dramatically intervene, forcing the Israelis to send hundreds of thousands north to fight a two front war.

Seems like both the West Bank and Hezbollah will stay quiet, meaning its going to just be another Gaza incursion, (if with a higher body count).

[august]

The way I see it, Israel is one thing, American Jewry is another. Yet, is it really possible to separate the two? I don't believe that the "dual loyalty" of American Jews actually exists in any meaningful way.

In light of recent kvetching neurotic mental breakdown, and being the man of honour that I am, Binyamin Shapiro singlehandedly forces me to recant this statement. 

[NuclearAbsolutist]

"The picture also doesn't show a clear representation of the claim"

These people almost make me want to go with the IDF General Staff for their sheer and total denial of realities of warfare that have run since pre history. Here's some images showing that Benny Boy getting legit or fake child gore does not change the on the ground reality:




What happened is rather simple, Hamas goes in, they burn the homes of the Israelis they shoot them(Notably the Arab telegram's I follow, they have these videos of Hamas guys moving around with constant gunfire in the background but its known there was no security forces coming in until hours later, hm) and they take hostages. Then the IDF swoops in and finds the ruins and remains and of course dead kids to pull the heart strings. That's it. If I see one more Nelson Mandela fan on twitter deploy another legalistic argument on how Hamas is not fighting what amounts to a race war and is simply fighting back for freedom against some apartheid regime and their units of young Palestinian men are actually totally 100% fans of the laws of war, and would never say pose on dead bodies or take film of themselves hostage taking and setting houses on fire, or shoot up a suv outside a entrance to a  Kibbutz with no sign of the motorists being armed  I will shatter my teeth from grinding them. Doesn't mean we should have blood ties by way of the Shoah or whatever Joe Biden said about Israel or what some two bit tv presenter said is a iron investigation but there's few groups of people I hate more than all these chattering people who wrote that community note who straight face in effect go "Nobody would EVER respond with violence towards a group that, in the words of their own officials have turned your home into a open air prison(In response to your rejection of their proposals and use of force)." Completely ahistorical thinking.

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Another thing, lest my analysis is mistaken for sympathy Hamas is on the same beaten path as the Algerian FLN Rhodesian ZANPU South African ANC etc with such work. Put under the polite phrasing of asymmetric warfare nearly all restraint is thrown out in order to do the goals of the cadre(In this case form a state under sharia law in the lands of historic Palestine and remove all trace of the hated Jew settler and his Zionist entity he calls a state.). It's results and process is almost mechanistic in how you can predict the outcomes and outline it.

[The Green Groyper]

Seeing Striker and some other “right wingers” on telegram literally vouch for Arab chivalry and restraint makes me sick.

“Uh Hamas didn’t kill babies and rape women, that’s bigotry”

I don’t think one has to be a Zionist or in anyway sympathetic to Israel to realize how insulting this is.

When I see Hamas fighters, I see a bunch of brown Muslims that would rape, butcher and terrorize if they were on a European street. They aren’t “allies” of the White man and claims that they are I find genuinely offensive.

[oyakodon_khan]

Why do Right Wing Jews not just admit that Hitler was 100% right in trying to kill them and pinky promise to not backstab us again if we save them? 

You're not entitled to goy blood you know

[The Green Groyper]

Why do Right Wing Jews not just admit that Hitler was 100% right in trying to kill them and pinky promise to not backstab us again if we save them? 

You're not entitled to goy blood you know

Jews think they are the Chosen race, and we are cattle. To admit that would be to tacitly treat us as their equals. 

That's utterly alien to the Jewish nature.

[Elfenlied]

Seeing Striker and some other “right wingers” on telegram literally vouch for Arab chivalry and restraint makes me sick.

“Uh Hamas didn’t kill babies and rape women, that’s bigotry”

I don’t think one has to be a Zionist or in anyway sympathetic to Israel to realize how insulting this is.

When I see Hamas fighters, I see a bunch of brown Muslims that would rape, butcher and terrorize if they were on a European street. They aren’t “allies” of the White man and claims that they are I find genuinely offensive.

One struggle-ism and "White civil rights!" and their consequences. Others are islamophilic, some RW-converted communists, some are brown, and some are simply Irish.