[Guest]

https://youtu.be/4Z4v_tn2b0w?si=c3yVooYtuxoy9dgb

Its been a while since i saw DBDR, but damn, if this is how things have been developing then it's truly over for him, he is his greatest enemy, and i don't mean in a poetic way, he is gonna turn homeless sooner or later, the raging alcoholic hobbos kind.

I don't understand how a couple of commenters and even users of his forum seem to have a condescending piety against him, he is actively ruining his life and uses the blackpill as a crutch to justify it.

What is he ruining exactly? What is the world offering him? How is what you've just said any different from his mother or whoever else demanding that he care about the world that offers him nothing?

His chances to not end up in prison or a clique of addicts, and he is not even 25, I have seen more self preservation instincts in coke addicts than him, just hear him while drunk at 12:00
There are many ways to live as a pariah and some of them are more pleasurable than others.

At 12:00 in DBDR sounds angry, as he should be. Do you think he should he be less angry? The video takes the side of two women making DBDR's life even more miserable than it already is. He should legally be allowed to rape them to death yet they're legally his superior. Why aren't you questioning his lack of anger? Should DBDR aim to live in a way that offers even less resistance than than he already seeks? Why do you take issue with his slight gestures in the way of hostility towards the world? Are you even more defeated than he is?

[anthony]

Things are quite bad for dbdr now. Living situation about to change again. Possibly back south with his father. But it's all open. He seems to have given up on everything that was going on around him at present. Lost the job, music guy has given up on his shit drumming, etc. It really sounds bad right now. Becoming an apprentice for a trade sounds like it could be okay for him, just some kind of steady work. All he wants. Should go for that. But we'll see. Just lots and lots of pain lately. He sounds really miserable.

[Lilliputian]

He has a relatively sizable following, enough to have a decent shot at "becoming a youtuber" or at least enough to parlay into some other kind of entertainment career opportunity. Is he too depressed? Or is his depression part of this character he plays to further his e-career?

I wonder how he'd do at an open mic. Sometimes I think he'd be a natural. Depressed alcoholic Irish-Catholic narcissists, frequent comedian phenotype. I think he'd be a natural.

[anthony]

He has a relatively sizable following, enough to have a decent shot at "becoming a youtuber" or at least enough to parlay into some other kind of entertainment career opportunity. Is he too depressed? Or is his depression part of this character he plays to further his e-career?

I wonder how he'd do at an open mic. Sometimes I think he'd be a natural. Depressed alcoholic Irish-Catholic narcissists, frequent comedian phenotype. I think he'd be a natural.

I also saw the "le narcissist" video. Let me get my comment.

"Narcissism" is always an accusation that comes from normalfags talking down to hard-done losers and making extremely one-sided charges of moral responsibility and failure. DBDR is a narcissist so we should not sympathise with him. Narcissism is, as used here, when you are stupid or awkward, but we still use it as a morally loaded term for some reason. The implication I'm reading is that he deserves to suffer for "narcissism". Critical disrespect for the inner lives of others or something. But people taking advantage of a vulnerable person is not narcissism, or worth any kind of moral consideration. Maybe it's okay when you're torturing a narcissist. And a narcissist is anybody socially maligned who does not believe they deserve it. So the system works.

Does dbdr act very stupidly. Yes. Is he difficult to be around socially. Probably. Did he never learn to take care of himself in the world. Yes. But at what point does this become "narcissism"? And what the fuck are you talking about with "money"? Everyone on the internet who wants to stoke some kind of moral force in their slapfights (basically everyone know, morality is popular) loves to make accusations of greed. I never see it anywhere. Is DBDR making money off of the channel? Is he going to make more or less depending on an inch of height? Is the socially blind narcissist a master manipulator once he signs into youtube?

The story here is that dbdr is kind of stupid, creates far more problems for himself socially than he lets on, may not be aware of what he's doing. The spin is that he's a greedy selfish narcissist, etc, all the big fancy shitpsych words TLP downstreamers are obsessed with now.

He says if there's a big drive in his next relocation he wants to stream it. That'd be interesting. dbdr streams could be very powerful.

[anthony]

We should probably talk about the comments under the Tails video, and how fucking weird they are. These people all live in the extended blackpill universe and can only think in terms of "content" to the point where it honestly feels like half of these people lie constantly in youtube comments because they feel like they're working on a brand or something. And it feels like all dissatisfaction with dbdr comes from critiquing him as such. Some guy wrote a comment longer than mine with no likes accusing him of lying "for the content". dbdr is so fucked up that I could believe he's lying or spinning any number of things, but I really don't think this is right.



Look at these retarded weirdos speaking in downstream TLP. What the fuck is this guy saying? One guy replying believes that everything dbdr said about his warehouse coworkers in his videos he said straight to them, in imagined personal encounters of some kind where he just rips into them exactly like his videos. That would be awesome, but it's also unthinkable. People this dumb and bad at reading others are saying dbdr deserves to suffer for being a "narcissist".

And of course, this particular comment. dbdr is a "narcissist" because he felt like he didn't owe... something to his coworkers in the warehouse. This makes him a narcissist so he deserves to suffer. But as I said, it's always one way. Who feels like they owe dbdr anything? Even if we accept that the warehouse guys were "being friendly" (they weren't) what's the problem here? Is anything but universal positivity narcissism? Does it always get what's coming? Are the people who aren't friendly to dbdr narcissists? Is the fact he's so easily taken advantage of narcissism? What the hell are these people saying? dbdr is an idiot who gets himself into trouble with people, yes. But I really can't imagine the mental steps necessary to read dbdr as a villain or deserving of these things even as all of this is right in front of me. If any of you could attempt to explain I would appreciate that.



Maybe I can investigate some of these claims, maybe this guy is insane? Who knows.

[Lilliputian]

I may have been a little hasty with my word choice. inward-looking and sort of sullen, but not a narcissist.

[Guest]

He has a relatively sizable following, enough to have a decent shot at "becoming a youtuber" or at least enough to parlay into some other kind of entertainment career opportunity. Is he too depressed? Or is his depression part of this character he plays to further his e-career?

I wonder how he'd do at an open mic. Sometimes I think he'd be a natural. Depressed alcoholic Irish-Catholic narcissists, frequent comedian phenotype. I think he'd be a natural.

I’m confident that dbdr’s reason for not trying to become a bigger YouTuber and to live off that cash originates from his fear of losing the only stable source of satisfactions and conciliation in his life. His YouTube channel, in his perspective, is an accidental boon that would be jeopardized if he started caring and trying to build it up because he doesn’t actually understand how it got popular, although he understands some of the principe at play. There’ve been times when his misery has sounded artificial therein also inadvertently betraying his fear of somehow losing what he has, but I understood that as a result of the demand of making new YouTube videos when nothing was really happening in his life or he didn’t feel like making them but did it for the upkeep of his channel. 

The idea of trying and failing would absolutely wreck him. Not trying and failing on the other-hand offers him a psychological refuge. Dbdr knows good things don’t last forever, and that one day he’ll lose his audience and following. That’s just YouTube. That’s just fame in general. Just imagine if he were the catalyst in the destruction of the only constant good thing in his life. 

Does dbdr lie? Maybe at times in an aware yet also unintentional way that is natural for the emotionally distraught. He may embellish things for the full cathartic effect. But his goal with many of his videos is a therapeutic one, so if that’s necessary for that specific effect’s full realization it does stand with some justification.

 As for his “I’m so bullied by strangers for no reason. I don’t understand why everyone hates me!” spiel which at times feels like he omits the facts of some of his own actions. Well, not everyone has a true grasp on causality. Doing something inconsequential in the moment one time, forgetting about it, and then having someone react to it later so all you remember is their reaction and not the part you played in it happens sometimes. And some people overreact to small things that shouldn’t elicit the level of response they give. But on the other-hand, sometimes people just hate you for no reason. Sometimes they hate you for being weak and looking like a punching bag. Maybe dbdr just doesn’t know how to standup for himself and thus becomes the defacto victim. It happens.

Anyway, this is all just conjecture, but in the condition of ignorance a little empathy is more noble then scornful accusations. Just remember to be kind. It’s a hard world.

[Guest]

I don't understand why I am supposed to feel bad about this guy. He's ugly and neurotic, why would I want a being like that to mate and create offspring? He'd just be perpetuating a cycle of ugliness and misery for his offspring. I get that you feel bad for him because he's a failed normie of sorts, but who cares? Some people are meant to create, some people are meant to die, and in his case it's the latter. Life sucks and we didn't choose to play it, but that's how it is and no use complaining about it.

[Guest]

I don't understand why I am supposed to feel bad about this guy. He's ugly and neurotic, why would I want a being like that to mate and create offspring? He'd just be perpetuating a cycle of ugliness and misery for his offspring. I get that you feel bad for him because he's a failed normie of sorts, but who cares? Some people are meant to create, some people are meant to die, and in his case it's the latter. Life sucks and we didn't choose to play it, but that's how it is and no use complaining about it.

You claim that the matter of dbdr’s life should be treated with indifference, yet your argument was created under the conditions to refute an argument that sought, between the choice and derision of kindness, to undermine the decision of kindness when there is a choice to be made; implying an inherently interested attitude to his life as your argument only critiques showing kindness and not Ill-will or attention to dbdr. A truly indifferent attitude to dbdr’s life would not lead one to make this post. Very hypocritical of you. Your argument is not “why should I show empathy to dbdr?” (You don’t and no one is forcing you to you retard) But instead “why should others care about dbdr?” 

Anyway, this is a sociology thread. I have taken an interest in dbdr and being a social improver wish for all people to live life to the best of their abilities. I want everyone to reach their full potential and I believe in a society that allows this; as did the founding fathers. Dbdr is just another victim of the blight plaguing society today. So, even if you don’t care about dbdr I would counter and ask if we should care about the conditions of our societies and nations at all? And if you can’t find any care in your heart for this matter then I would call you a stupid nigger.

[Guest]

He doesn't realize that he's still sort of jestermaxxing, he sets himself up to be laughed at by describing himself as ugly, clumsy, bad at everything etc., there's no admirable way to make a brand out of how retarded and unlikable you are

[Muenzuka]

I guess the main factor of my withering support from him it's that he has already talked and reflected upon how he got taken advantage of in the past, yet he seems to disregard or gloss over the fact that he got played by hundreds of dollars by that junkie kid and the stripper, this is just plain stupidity and self destructive behavior.
And to the guy who said that he simply sounded angry, no, this is not anger but mere derangement from someone who seems to have got the habit of speaking to himself.

PS: What do you guys think about Rehab Room? I know he is a pajeet, but after knowing he is pushing 40s made everything look even more pathetic. He has some valid points, but his vitriol it´s just increasing, and wants to ensure his demoralization videos keep becoming more and more effective.

[anthony]

I guess the main factor of my withering support from him it's that he has already talked and reflected upon how he got taken advantage of in the past, yet he seems to disregard or gloss over the fact that he got played by hundreds of dollars by that junkie kid and the stripper, this is just plain stupidity and self destructive behavior.
And to the guy who said that he simply sounded angry, no, this is not anger but mere derangement from someone who seems to have got the habit of speaking to himself.

PS: What do you guys think about Rehab Room? I know he is a pajeet, but after knowing he is pushing 40s made everything look even more pathetic. He has some valid points, but his vitriol it´s just increasing, and wants to ensure his demoralization videos keep becoming more and more effective.

I haven't watched any of the Rehab Room videos, I just look at the titles, thumbnails, and little opening clips. Incel TV was a far funnier name. He should have stuck with that. You could say that despite the numbers and such focus Rehab Room and his audience are very Incel 2 (or was it 1? I forget). Remember that old classification scheme everyone vehemently turned against for some reason? Still seems handy to me.

Also I miss Saint Hamudi.

[Virtue]

I think Skorr came up with the classification, and Rehab Room is an Incel 1.

[Chud]

I think Skorr came up with the classification, and Rehab Room is an Incel 1.

Rabbit came up with it you sub specie-INFRA-Unter-OMNIkakistofoede Writhing Horsefly Burrowing Larva Instar Undulation Putrefactionalizationized Waste Vermin

[Guest]

Can someone post the incel grade ranking thing? I’ve known about it for like forever and still have never been exposed to the model or explanation. You all can’t keep teasing me like this. It’s abuse.

[Muenzuka]

I guess the main factor of my withering support from him it's that he has already talked and reflected upon how he got taken advantage of in the past, yet he seems to disregard or gloss over the fact that he got played by hundreds of dollars by that junkie kid and the stripper, this is just plain stupidity and self destructive behavior.
And to the guy who said that he simply sounded angry, no, this is not anger but mere derangement from someone who seems to have got the habit of speaking to himself.

PS: What do you guys think about Rehab Room? I know he is a pajeet, but after knowing he is pushing 40s made everything look even more pathetic. He has some valid points, but his vitriol it´s just increasing, and wants to ensure his demoralization videos keep becoming more and more effective.

I haven't watched any of the Rehab Room videos, I just look at the titles, thumbnails, and little opening clips. Incel TV was a far funnier name. He should have stuck with that. You could say that despite the numbers and such focus Rehab Room and his audience are very Incel 2 (or was it 1? I forget). Remember that old classification scheme everyone vehemently turned against for some reason? Still seems handy to me.

Also I miss Saint Hamudi.

I'm sure he had to change them in fears of being deleted or something like it. Incel it's a such a pariah term in the algorithm nowadays, to the point of probably soon be an apocalipse for any textual incel adjacent themes, kinda what happened to MGTOW content a couple of years ago.
I'm sure he had to change them in fears of being deleted from youtube because how much of a stigma can these letters in succesion

[anthony]

Important dbdr lore elaborated upon here. I was actually just talking about him recently and someone took it for granted he grew up in some nowhere shithole. I didn't actually remember him speaking specifically about where he grew up, but here he gives some good detail. He did grow up in the middle of nowhere. Specifically like a house surrounded by nothing. This I think is particularly important. It's a really fucked up way to live as a child and I knew a few people who have been in situations sort of like this (myself included). I think parents can kind of miss the real impact of this because they drive everywhere and have a sense of agency a child won't. Things they want are still accessible. If you grow up with nothing to do or possible to do outside you develop a weird relationship with space and action.



dbdr thinking about the future, and the past. Thinking about the ruined spare men of the past. The flashes of his childhood are really fucked up sounding. Also this fucked up froglet friend of his father had a really horrible life and dbdr is clearly thinking about the likelihood of becoming him. This is a really bleak video.

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