Regarding porn

[Guest]

I have the final solution to the pornography question. First, ban all production of pornography with the exception of 2D. Then, raid Mindgeek's HQ+Servers, arrest everyone on human trafficking charges, remove all their sites from public access to cut continued distribution. Furthermore, raid OnlyFans, take down the platform and legally classify OnlyFans work as prostitution. After the industry readjusts to being 2D only, start clamping down on the total garbage using obscenity laws. If pornography is to exist in any capacity it shall be held to the standard of works such as Sengoku Rance!
With this short-term plan, the current problems of mass pornography consumption shall be mitigated and whatever is left shall have artistic merit.

[a system is failing]

The real question not being asked is porn for women, should that exist? 

Porn for women already exists, and the pornographic experience for women is sigbificantly wider in breadth and genre than it is for men, whose porn is just visual depiction of sex fractilized into various interests and paraphilias. All men compartmentalize sex. It's a specific thing that exists outside of their actual 'life', life being a nonsexual exercise of entertainimg concepts, moving resources and competing, you know the stuff men do when left to their own devices. Sex for women is their entire life, and so much of what they consume is analogous to porn: feel good virtue signalling social media campaigns and videos are female porn, most ads are female porn, many shows are female porn, revealing clothing is female porn, for gym thots working out is porn, every argument they make is pornographic in nature, generally the mjsic they like the most is porn, women are constantly being motivated by what makes them feel aroused or sexy (or the opposite) and so everything they distinguish themselves is raunchy vulgar sex shit. Women can't even see two male friends without thinking they want to fuck each other. Part of making them stop being insane sluts will be destroying and denormalizing all the female arousal signals that we are being bombarded with 24/7. It has to be remembered that a single woman with no kids, her only ideal in life is to just piss pheromones all over everything all day because finding a mate totally occupies her mind. Making things "for women" is a sign your shit is fucked and its all over for you, indulging them is indulging Satan.

[Corvid]

The real question not being asked is porn for women, should that exist? 

They're called romance novels. Female eroticism is a lot more contrived than the male counterpart. Any critique of pornography from women could very well just be decrying how low brow it is.

[JohnnyRomero]

Think I sort of repeated myself above. Back to the first point, I think that most of the harmful effects attributed to porn are actually just generally media induced, and that the porn issue should be entirely subsumed by the media issue. I think it's far easier to make a case that tv is bad for people. Smartphones drive girls insane. Etc. I don't have it on hand, but there's that Hakan story about the effects of tv on a previously isolated culture being immediately apparent and damaging.

For the record:

[anthony]

For the record:

Thanks, what I was after.

[Oldblood]

Are girls in their early twenties really buying romance novels still? I have trouble believing that. As I understand it, wattpad fanfiction is the most popular medium for erotica. I also think more of them are starting to watch porn, if not for their own satisfaction but just because it's kind of an unsuccessful 'pick me' tactic. Most commonly you'll hear that they only watch lesbian porn - another instance of deriving sexual gratification from psychology rather than visual stimuli.

[Guest]

Are girls in their early twenties really buying romance novels still? I have trouble believing that.

i often see them(girls in their early twenties) reading books in public(most likely for attention) and the books always look like fiction books. 

Postulating that the only type of fiction books women can read are romance, then from my observations I can deduce that women in their early twenties still do buy romance novels.

(unless they shoplifted them, which is also likely but should be omitted as the nature of the question lies in the material medium of the romance novels in opposition to the actual act of purchasing)

[Unformed Golem]

Are girls in their early twenties really buying romance novels still? I have trouble believing that. As I understand it, wattpad fanfiction is the most popular medium for erotica. I also think more of them are starting to watch porn, if not for their own satisfaction but just because it's kind of an unsuccessful 'pick me' tactic. Most commonly you'll hear that they only watch lesbian porn - another instance of deriving sexual gratification from psychology rather than visual stimuli.

Yes, although this includes ebooks.  Obviously no woman is torrenting or pirating anything.  Just look at Amazon bestsellers, although even this is skewed by the inverted age pyramid towards the kind of "romance" preferred by older and more roastied women.

[BillyONare]

What type of porn girls like? I am pretty sure they like the type of porn where a gang of black thugs is harassing a loli...then a giant toad monster hops in from the shadows and scares them off...she thanks him and he sticks out his long sticky tongue and gulps her up safely into his big mouth, takes her back to his cave, it starts raining hard outside of the cave, and then, well, one thing leads to another...

[Guest]

What type of porn girls like? I am pretty sure they like the type of porn where a gang of black thugs is harassing a loli...then a giant toad monster hops in from the shadows and scares them off...she thanks him and he sticks out his long sticky tongue and gulps her up safely into his big mouth, takes her back to his cave, it starts raining hard outside of the cave, and then, well, one thing leads to another...

Link?

[BillyONare]

"I just made it up."

[anthony]

"I just made it up."

The power of AI will make it real.

[Zed]

What type of porn girls like? 

She began to kiss him gently on the neck, making the Doctor exhale deeply. Rose continued with these gentle kisses all the way down his chest, making his breaths even heavier as desire slowly engulfed him. She began to undo his trousers and kiss his hip line will sliding the trousers off. The Doctor snapped out of his daze for a minute and squirmed a little, which only made Rose laugh. "You're cute when you're tied up" she said as she slid from the bed and winked at him making the Doctor blush which was very unlike him. Rose retrieved something from a chest and returned to the bed, "don't fight me Doctor", she was holding long black straps, probably similar to those tied to his wrists. When she took his right foot he tried to pull it away but Rose simply fastened it around his ankle and was able to pull his foot back into position, tying the end to the bed post. A similar situation occurred when she went for his other foot and again the Doctor's actions proved useless. He was completely helpless now and Rose loved it. She leaned against the bedpost for a few moments admiring her work, and met the Doctor's brown eyes, imploring her to release him, but all that did was make her want him more.

"Now Doctor" she began, delicately gliding her finger over one of his feet causing him to squirm a tiny bit. He was ticklish, information that might be useful for later, Rose thought. "You left me on my own for so long today" she stood inbetween his two feet, resting a hand on each "and I was very lonely.. So, I'm afraid I'm going to have to punish you" She met the Doctor's eyes and saw him raise his brows, confused by what she meant by 'punish' but before he knew it her hands were dashing all over his feet. The Doctor pulled on his foot restraints but to no avail, his whole body writhing trying to escape and his muffled laughter was like music to Rose. She finally stopped and the Doctor's entire body relaxed, his chest rising and falling quickly, sweat glistening on his lean body. She hopped onto the bed and straddled his hips. She lifted her hands for him to see and wiggled her fingers while looking suggestively at his torso and the Doctor furiously shook his head and made more noises beneath his gag which Rose guessed was him begging for her not to. Unlucky for him Rose was feeling particularly playful today. She ambushed his sides and the Doctor squirmed beneath her, bucking his hips to try get her off of him - which really had the complete opposite effect - he threw his head back, and she heard more muffled laughter, listening to that alone was enough to make her wet.

She finally released him and he shut his eyes from exhaustion, his breathing was fast paced but gradually slowing. She looked down at him, admiring how beautiful he was. She wanted nothing more than to release him and have him make love to her but she wasn't done playing with him yet.

She gave him a few minutes to recover before beginning agai The Doctor finally opened his eyes and watched her poke through her box. He'd never experienced anything like this before, and while he'd never have believed it before this day, he was loving every minute of this. He still felt some guilt but the other part of him, the part that was ecstatic to finally be this close with Rose, was overriding his doubts. He was admiring her curvy figure and her erotic red underwear, he wanted nothing more than to hold her like that but clearly she had other things in mind.

She squeezed a type of lotion from a bottle onto her hands and massaged his dick, which was gradually reaching full mast. She then slid a circle shaped device down his shaft, and before the Doctor could try figure out the contraption, she hit something and it began to vibrate. To begin with, it was pleasant, he unconsciously began to slightly sway his hips and moan gently but soon it became a pleasurable prison. He became increasingly sensitive and was properly bucking his hips, trying to remove the ring.

(Randomly sampled fanfic off adult-fanfiction.org)



(Another flavor)

[KV55]

It's only a matter of time before they start putting troons in mainstream pornography.

[Zed]

It's only a matter of time before they start putting troons in mainstream pornography.

Tranny porn is not a small market as is --- it is also deeply interesting from a sexology point of view. There are some theories, notably Blanchard's GAMP, on it... but I largely dissent from them.

Generally, it appears that there is an element in a good number of male brains relating to sympathetic arousal at the sight of erect cock. It is not homosexual in the sense that the cock is not the fixation or even the interest of the viewer, but appears often as a necessary ingredient in a heterosexual context to make it feel real (and hence erotic). Seems to be something about generating a relatable body-map identification. Thus standard M/F PIV is always far more popular than lesbians with strap-ons, and one notes a frequent emphasis on the shots of cock in such content. This tendency, subject to elaboration, leads to futanari, which manifests as a hack designed to maximize the effect: it maintains standard female anatomy with the addition of a erect cock. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the majority of consumers of futa do not actually have any homosexual tendencies. 

Now tranny porn, at least with the highest tier of trannies, also invokes the hack... but often in a way that touches uncanny valley. The average man feel decisively less comfortable with tranny porn - even when they find it arousing. The "Is this gay bruh?" instinct is quite strong in the normie.

As for actual frequent tranny porn consumers - they break down into three classes:

1.) Closet trannies/repressors who utilize the porn to self insert. This happens with conventional live-action porn, but it is more common with doujinshi and other animated/illustrated content. They favor images that represent what they wish they looked like - "I wish I was her."

2.) The chaser: A class of beta males who idolize trannies as more 'relatable' than normal women. "She likes to fuck and will play dark souls with me!". The tranny becomes their fantasy GF, and tendency is somewhat similar to how a certain class of men idolize tomboy-ish girls. This class of men favor extremely passable trannies that are indistinguishable from women in looks. They really just desire something with the looks of a woman... but the spirit of a man.

3.) Predatory alpha bisexuals, who get off on the idea of dominating a boy who has feminized themselves and making her his bitch. For them... it is all about power and degradation. They generally have the filthiest tastes: They prefer trannies that look more overtly boyish, or at least on the femboy spectrum. They perceive anal sex as inherently degrading, and find such an act of dominance thrilling. This is common in a lot of middle eastern men.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

It's only a matter of time before they start putting troons in mainstream pornography.

Most "porn stars" are as ugly as troons but in a different way already. It will not be that a great leap in their material only aesthetics.

[Guest]

It's only a matter of time before they start putting troons in mainstream pornography.

Tranny porn is not a small market as is --- it is also deeply interesting from a sexology point of view. There are some theories, notably Blanchard's GAMP, on it... but I largely dissent from them.

Generally, it appears that there is an element in a good number of male brains relating to sympathetic arousal at the sight of erect cock. It is not homosexual in the sense that the cock is not the fixation or even the interest of the viewer, but appears often as a necessary ingredient in a heterosexual context to make it feel real (and hence erotic). Seems to be something about generating a relatable body-map identification. Thus standard M/F PIV is always far more popular than lesbians with strap-ons, and one notes a frequent emphasis on the shots of cock in such content. This tendency, subject to elaboration, leads to futanari, which manifests as a hack designed to maximize the effect: it maintains standard female anatomy with the addition of a erect cock. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the majority of consumers of futa do not actually have any homosexual tendencies. 

Now tranny porn, at least with the highest tier of trannies, also invokes the hack... but often in a way that touches uncanny valley. The average man feel decisively less comfortable with tranny porn - even when they find it arousing. The "Is this gay bruh?" instinct is quite strong in the normie.

As for actual frequent tranny porn consumers - they break down into three classes:

1.) Closet trannies/repressors who utilize the porn to self insert. This happens with conventional live-action porn, but it is more common with doujinshi and other animated/illustrated content. They favor images that represent what they wish they looked like - "I wish I was her."

2.) The chaser: A class of beta males who idolize trannies as more 'relatable' than normal women. "She likes to fuck and will play dark souls with me!". The tranny becomes their fantasy GF, and tendency is somewhat similar to how a certain class of men idolize tomboy-ish girls. This class of men favor extremely passable trannies that are indistinguishable from women in looks. They really just desire something with the looks of a woman... but the spirit of a man.

3.) Predatory alpha bisexuals, who get off on the idea of dominating a boy who has feminized themselves and making her his bitch. For them... it is all about power and degradation. They generally have the filthiest tastes: They prefer trannies that look more overtly boyish, or at least on the femboy spectrum. They perceive anal sex as inherently degrading, and find such an act of dominance thrilling. This is common in a lot of middle eastern men.

You intellectualize it to make it appear neutered, but it's all like pleasure island in Pinocchio. Excess indulgence leading to the degeneration and warping of character. Specifying how the high is reached distracts from the real problem, the pursuit of a bigger high itself. If you can watch porn (or indulge in any vice) without this kind of escalation you'll be okay. The only real problem of interest is as simple as corruption feeding on itself, regardless of the specific form it takes.

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It's only a matter of time before they start putting troons in mainstream pornography.

Tranny porn is not a small market as is --- it is also deeply interesting from a sexology point of view. There are some theories, notably Blanchard's GAMP, on it... but I largely dissent from them.

Generally, it appears that there is an element in a good number of male brains relating to sympathetic arousal at the sight of erect cock. It is not homosexual in the sense that the cock is not the fixation or even the interest of the viewer, but appears often as a necessary ingredient in a heterosexual context to make it feel real (and hence erotic). Seems to be something about generating a relatable body-map identification. Thus standard M/F PIV is always far more popular than lesbians with strap-ons, and one notes a frequent emphasis on the shots of cock in such content. This tendency, subject to elaboration, leads to futanari, which manifests as a hack designed to maximize the effect: it maintains standard female anatomy with the addition of a erect cock. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the majority of consumers of futa do not actually have any homosexual tendencies. 

Now tranny porn, at least with the highest tier of trannies, also invokes the hack... but often in a way that touches uncanny valley. The average man feel decisively less comfortable with tranny porn - even when they find it arousing. The "Is this gay bruh?" instinct is quite strong in the normie.

As for actual frequent tranny porn consumers - they break down into three classes:

1.) Closet trannies/repressors who utilize the porn to self insert. This happens with conventional live-action porn, but it is more common with doujinshi and other animated/illustrated content. They favor images that represent what they wish they looked like - "I wish I was her."

2.) The chaser: A class of beta males who idolize trannies as more 'relatable' than normal women. "She likes to fuck and will play dark souls with me!". The tranny becomes their fantasy GF, and tendency is somewhat similar to how a certain class of men idolize tomboy-ish girls. This class of men favor extremely passable trannies that are indistinguishable from women in looks. They really just desire something with the looks of a woman... but the spirit of a man.

3.) Predatory alpha bisexuals, who get off on the idea of dominating a boy who has feminized themselves and making her his bitch. For them... it is all about power and degradation. They generally have the filthiest tastes: They prefer trannies that look more overtly boyish, or at least on the femboy spectrum. They perceive anal sex as inherently degrading, and find such an act of dominance thrilling. This is common in a lot of middle eastern men.

Thank you Zed, before this I was undecided on the porn question but this comment has shown me the light.

[Guest]

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[NuclearAbsolutist]

Someone edited my post

I don't think that's possible. If your referring to the two clearly different guest posts being one that's because the settings of this forum are such guest posts are merged together.

[Guest]

Someone edited my post

I don't think that's possible. If your referring to the two clearly different guest posts being one that's because the settings of this forum are such guest posts are merged together.

I missed the separating line, nobody edited my post. Apologies. New here