The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey: The Future of the West

[skorr]

Recently a friend of mine sent this to me.



I immediately began an investigation - apparently it's a new point-and-click visual novel thingamajig called The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey. Let me list the positives:

1) It's romantic, which means that it is right-wing. As we know, the Left hates all romance and even sex, to an extent.
2) It is anti-racemixing - not only are both Andy and LeyLey white, but they also share a common ethnic background. 
3) It's morally transgressive - you actually eat someone, from what I've heard.
4) LeyLey is the perfect goth girlfriend - she's aggressive and a yandere - that's another gift of the based Japanese, it means she's violently obsessed with you. As we know, the more women diverge from stifling cultural norms, the more right wing they are.
5) Andrew is the ultimate sensitive young man. To an ignorant onlooker, he's a dysfunctional pushover, but look within. An appreciation for the macabre, a love of symbolism and poetry....truly a vision of high life from the Bronze Age.

As for the negatives, I have heard that you don't actually get to have sex with LeyLey in the game, you can only talk about it after the fact. Will hopefully be fixed as they make more content for it.

So the premise of the game is that Andrew and Ashley Graves are locked in their apartment because of some sort of pandemic. This is a metaphor for the Longhouse. 

You escape the Longhouse by violating artificial moral constructions.

This is where the game features some acts that may offend the sensibilities of puritans and prudes. They'll say, "This is disgusting! Andy and LeyLey are siblings, they shouldn't be having an incestuous relationship."

Obviously the sentiment of a beta male cuck. 

Also, they might say, "This game promotes patricide and devil worship!"

Look - it's all symbolic. You transgress the Judeo-Christian morality that keeps you in the longhouse. Your parents are evil authoritarians who are suppressing your will to power. Someone like that communist Adrian Vermeule (probably the biggest threat to the Right currently) or that coaler SpinachBrah would shriek "DEMONS!". You do summon a "demon", but I believe this is a symbol for the renewal of the Bronze Age Spirit that gets you out of the Longhouse.

I can already guess what other interlocutors on this forum are going to say. "There's nothing about sodomy in this game, how can it be based?" "Skorr, I really do not think there is anything 'right wing' about this game. 'Right wing', conceptually speaking, is when you read 19th century reactionaries." "Where the FUCK is Vaporeon?"

All of these people have no vision.

The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey is a game about true love which will consume the world. It's also cool because it's about hyper-hormonal teenage lust/love, something that modern soft zoomers do not understand, they would rather sit in their rooms and masturbate to pokemon or whatever.

Already it's inspired 6 pages worth of Right Wing Art, hosted at rule34.xxx (search for "the_coffin_of_andy_and_leyley"). 

So please, play this game. Encourage your friends and family to play it. Think of it this way. If you've ever read Mishima, Celine, or BAP, then you know that Nazism is all about decadence, and so I firmly believe this game is a rabbit hole leading to Adolf Hitler and Nazism.

[Bransle]

Traditionalist Western Culture always had the motif of sex with your own's sister in many of their myths and folk stories - well-known to everyone here are the legends of Apollo's many lovers among his own siblings, or the many poems in the "courtly love" tradition of the troubadours in which the fair beauty of the poet's sister is celebrated in clearly erotic terms. Of course, this was never seen as something "taboo", but rather, as the well-deserved reward - the crossing of the last thresold - after the hero returns from his journey. It represents the hero finally conquering the last realm there is for him to conquer, that is, the realm within the walls of his very own house (what we would call now the "longhouse") . The hero at last acts not moved out of sheepish obedience to the bonds of family duty - instead, he is the one dictating the form these family bonds end up taking. In most of these myths, the sister gets pregnant - the hero has overcome the law of his own household and through it he has endure its survival and continuation. 

I see The coffin of Andy and Leyley as yet another example of this very myth - it pushes forward the idea of a truly Nietzschean family - not the matriarcal longhouse that has been written into law thanks to cristianity, and that is now the normie dream. Family as a path not of self-annihilation, self-debasement and conformity, but a path towards the Overman through mutual exploration of the most elevated desires a man and a woman can experience. A relationship not based on secrets nor taboos, but the eugenic quest for excellence. Don't let oldtroons tell you this game is "cringe" or "degenerate" - this is 100% our game.

[Handi]

Yeah, we're nothing like those troons—we're into incest!

[Bransle]

Yeah, we're nothing like those troons—we're into incest!

[Guest]

Quite frankly, after reading your OP I’ve come to the conclusion it’s in bad faith.
First off, there is no historical record of incest being practiced in Pagan societies. Obviously you’re a Jewish shill trying to project your scriptures onto pagan culture, seeing that incest was more common in the Goy Testament.
Second off, “violating morals” is a Jewish practice which goes back to the Goy Testament, in which your prophet Moishe completely bases his religion off of opposition to Egyptian paganism (read Jan Assman).
This whole thread is just another Jewish attempt at inverting morals and trying to trick the pagan community into accepting degeneracy.

- A Pagan Who Knows What He’s Talking About

[Unformed Golem]

You know who loves incest? Indians and Africans. Middle Easterners too if you count the "friendly uncle".

[Guest]

No one cares about being called right wing anymore so an affection of a resigned elder scolding silly teenage Nitcheanz won't amuse anyone. Carlsbad is dead and we have killed him. You have AIDS probably too. Also you spent more time thinking about this game then anyone adjacent to this place.

[Bransle]

No one cares about being called right wing anymore so an affection of a resigned elder scolding silly teenage Nitcheanz won't amuse anyone. Carlsbad is dead and we have killed him. You have AIDS probably too. Also you spent more time thinking about this game then anyone adjacent to this place.

Nigger! This forum is based on the idea of videogames being the SOLE IMPORTANT MEDIA (other than anime) when it comes to influencing the minds of those among us who are excellent. The King-to-Come is playing videogames in this very moment - and very likely, he's playing something like The Coffin of Andy and Leyley.

[Unformed Golem]

"Maybe we can positively portray two white people being in love and having sex if it's incest" has the same energy as "maybe I'll be allowed to oppose immigration if I say it's because I don't want to harm our precious Jews". How about we hang every faggot instead. As for "fujoshis" there is no good reason to indulge the neuroses of underfucked women.

[Bransle]

You know who loves incest?  Indians and Africans.  Middle Easterners too if you count the "friendly uncle".

I understand that you come from a mulatto misbred "fuhmeelee" who can't even conceptualize the fact that our sisters, well-bred in a white household, are simply "hot", which is only the natural result of great genetics and eugenic breeding. I suspect this, for you, is a wholly alien concept.

[Unformed Golem]

"ahh shiet mang, if mah sista done was a yt lady I'd be ALL up in dat biatch, dayum!"

[Handi]

our sisters, well-bred in a white household, are simply "hot"

"Don't fuck your own sister" is a very minimal constraint on sexual choice, if you consider this too stifling then you must have the mind of a dog or some even lowlier and more impulsive beast. Your father should castrate you just for posting this.

[Bransle]

"ahh shiet mang, if mah sista done was a yt lady I'd be ALL up in dat biatch, dayum!"

The myth of incest appears in several tales of the Round Table circle in which several knights, after being tempted by many women in their adventures, finally experience for the first time carnal love from their sisters. There was an entire genre of poetry in Southern France and Northern Italy dedicated to "la bèla sòrre" in which sex with one's sister acts like a "metaphor" for the highest level of illumination, and there's a tradition going from the Pharaohs to the House of Habsburg in which monarchs intermingled with their sisters (and I hope you don't fall for the propaganda about this), William Shakespeare was rumored to be in mad love with his sister and this impossible love ended up being the inspiration for Romeo and Juliet. Evola actually wrote about this in a couple books, I will post the Landshark thread referencing this when I find it. While plebeians were forced to marry a woman and that was the end of it, it was very common among the aristocracy to have a woman as your wife and a sister as your lover, and it was consider a sign of almost divine favor to have an attractive sister. And don't get me started on the samurai.

Really, there's thousands of examples, but do I want to waste a whole afternoon? Go back at "Mutilation" and "Branding", really, it's more fitting for you.

[Bransle]

our sisters, well-bred in a white household, are simply "hot"

"Don't fuck your own sister" is a very minimal constraint on sexual choice, if you consider this too stifling then you must have the mind of a dog or some even lowlier and more impulsive beast. Your father should castrate you just for posting this.

Being tied to a leash is more unbearable for a lion than it would be for a dog. I hope you understand.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

Whenever I see or think of the phrase Western VN(I know it this example is RPG maker made but the principle still holds) I imagine this scene.



In particular of the banner of the right which has a slogan with "КПСС" on it. In my minds eye I always see "КПСС" which is of course the acronym form of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) in Russian, every time I even think to myself of the concept of a Western VN. Because the sort of culture by decree of Marxist Leninism and the promotion of Western VN's by what counts for cultural circles now are almost identical(It seems to me at least the perfect metaphoric cudgel). In our world of toil always a grand banner proclaiming a new good to take in. Its not a inherent issue I wish to say upfront, it is due to current conditions and I'll detail how your friends response highlights some of them,

Let me list the positives:

1) It's romantic, which means that it is right-wing. As we know, the Left hates all romance and even sex, to an extent.
2) It is anti-racemixing - not only are both Andy and LeyLey white, but they also share a common ethnic background.
3) It's morally transgressive - you actually eat someone, from what I've heard.
4) LeyLey is the perfect goth girlfriend - she's aggressive and a yandere - that's another gift of the based Japanese, it means she's violently obsessed with you. As we know, the more women diverge from stifling cultural norms, the more right wing they are.
5) Andrew is the ultimate sensitive young man. To an ignorant onlooker, he's a dysfunctional pushover, but look within. An appreciation for the macabre, a love of symbolism and poetry....truly a vision of high life from the Bronze Age

Why is this being graded like a English teacher highlighting Shakespeare's "importance"? Why within that framework are based metrics being used drawn up from a mind who can clearly only think in Ifunny image macros about culture and ideas? Common as discussed here and elsewhere to sadly, ALL discussion on Art but when it comes to VNs they might suffer worse online than even video games. Such understanding then flows in the minds of artists, who then naturally because of the relative ease of such a project take on their pen, and make works that advertise themselves as such:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/23789...nd_Leyley/

STORY

Cannibalism and codependency!

Caught in an extremely toxic sibling relationship, our awful heroes must survive starvation, as well as each other. How will you escape death and the consequences of your actions?
FEATURES

This is a story focused adventure game where you get to:

    Explore a bleak world.
    Solve some light puzzles.
    Play as two characters.
    Make choices that change the course of the story.
    Kill some people for food (and fun?).
    Discover multiple endings.

Dealing with quite a worthy work here, note the use of codependency in the tagline-we have mental health speak so we know this has EFFORT behind it. Of course ignored by the based boosters, its really about the sister wife and goth nationalism, as Peter Greeaway said people see what they want to see. And once the object is in the eye, then comes the relentless shilling and discourse. I will now expound on the current Zeitgeist and what I think is happening.
I have a theory, I call it the backwash theory here's a little illustration of it

Let elaborate some more if its not clear back in ye olden times Artists would take from various sources be it their patron(Be it in the feudal era or the corporate age), their education on past masters, walking outside the muses what have you. Today with a process that can be traced back to the late 20th century if not earlier and in my view now reaching a stranglehold on cultural creation with tumblr/tv tropes brain artists entering the stage proper what happens is there's a series of boxes you mold the work in starting first with MUH THEME & SUBJECT MATTER various storytelling elements, w o r l d b u i l d i n g and ending with maybe the actual elements of the creation that from the artists mind/muse usually by now, a jumble of what I just said that they like or maybe not and they are doing this out of duty/marketing or what amounts to that level of desire. 

You can put TCOAALL into tags quite smoothly which is what people want and what artists seem to want too. "But Nuc! You said you were going to talk about the Zeitgeist in the American English use of the term!" Thank you shadow speaker, I will now look at this from a micro level. What are these tags in TCOAAL, what is the wave we are seeing well, we have faux edge(As covered helpfully by Bransle incest is older than nations old hat for works of culture, from Greece to modern Japanese vns with art that doesn't offend ones sight, and having cannibalism, satanic panic view of occult-1980 was 43 years ago! And its not even done well.) Goth stuff a staple of the drain we have entered since Obama and you know storyfag elements this is a HONEST AND TRUE artfag work. As I said, it's a wave, there was even another work I consider in lock step with this released on  Friday the 13th same as part two but different in some aspects of course that's reached the eyes of millions.

   
Here the styles are 3d animation, some digital horror like a bugged out game quirky weird children's media vibes-why you can list them just like a AI prompt. I will give props to Nemlei the maker of TCOAALL that they have no social media discord or patreon and say they are just a story teller. No slide into this role:


Which is the final position art has taken up thanks to people based & rojopilled like Skorr's chum or not.

[Hyperion]

Excellent thread. It's important to remember that in all pre-Chr*stian societies, the monarch was expected to keep his blood pure through incestual marriage, a privilege awarded solely to gods and kings, who were also gods in their own right. "Race" was a quality to be shared by the nobility and royal family alone as individuals of established (i.e unmixed) stock, with the masses forming an exchangeable blob of interchangeable elements from unknown origins. Indeed, even up until the 17th century in the Chr*stian era (for the Aryan blood in the European aristocracy had not been fully diluted yet) the French "Rasse" applied SOLELY to royal lineages and NOT to the groupings of rabble. Unfortunately, with the hyper-Chr*stianity of the 19th century, the wishes of neurotic priests and their J*wish masters (having been fully freed from the ghettoes of Europe by their stooge Napoleon) had finally chocked the life out of Europe's finer specimens, and made them look at their natural lust for their beautiful sisters with nothing but shame. As the Aryan cult of the sister was abolished, so was the Aryan's instinct for self preservation and racial purity. How can one justify the need to keep one's race pure if they cannot even keep their family pure? Hence came the long decline of the west in the 20th century. Media like The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey is nothing short of an Aryan atavism, a return of an ancient and noble instinct buried in the hearts and loins of an equally ancient and noble people by millennia of J*wish ressentiment and moralizing. In the moans of Leyley in the incest route sex scene one can hear the bedroom chamber sounds of all the ancient White kings, stretching from Narmer to Charles II. Incest is the delight of kings and the pleasure of noble souls, and as the finer specimens of our race we must reclaim our natural birthright. It is no surprise that the users (many of dubious racial origins) which have flirted with homosexuality and transexualism take issue with our noble predispositions, and I hope no one is lead astray to by their wordy bleatings and meaningless references to BASED authors.

[Nasu]

Whenever I see or think of the phrase Western VN(I know it this example is RPG maker made but the principle still holds) I imagine this scene.



In particular of the banner of the right which has a slogan with "КПСС" on it. In my minds eye I always see "КПСС" which is of course the acronym form of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) in Russian, every time I even think to myself of the concept of a Western VN. Because the sort of culture by decree of Marxist Leninism and the promotion of Western VN's by what counts for cultural circles now are almost identical(It seems to me at least the perfect metaphoric cudgel). In our world of toil always a grand banner proclaiming a new good to take in [...]

This is but a minor point, but the only Western VN that I think escapes what you say herein is Katawa Shoujo, which I actually think is done quite well despite on the surface seeming like a meme because it was a collaborative effort by channers. What you say certainly applies to thinks like Andy and Leyley or more traditional Western VNs like Doki Doki Literature Club. I can only surmise that Katawa Shoujo's quality comes from the fact that it was actually made by people who love and appreciate Japanese VNs.

[Bransle]

Excellent thread. It's important to remember that in all pre-Chr*stian societies, the monarch was expected to keep his blood pure through incestual marriage, a privilege awarded solely to gods and kings, who were also gods in their own right. "Race" was a quality to be shared by the nobility and royal family alone as individuals of established (i.e unmixed) stock, with the masses forming an exchangeable blob of interchangeable elements from unknown origins. Indeed, even up until the 17th century in the Chr*stian era (for the Aryan blood in the European aristocracy had not been fully diluted yet) the French "Rasse" applied SOLELY to royal lineages and NOT to the groupings of rabble. Unfortunately, with the hyper-Chr*stianity of the 19th century, the wishes of neurotic priests and their J*wish masters (having been fully freed from the ghettoes of Europe by their stooge Napoleon) had finally chocked the life out of Europe's finer specimens, and made them look at their natural lust for their beautiful sisters with nothing but shame. As the Aryan cult of the sister was abolished, so was the Aryan's instinct for self preservation and racial purity. How can one justify the need to keep one's race pure if they cannot even keep their family pure? Hence came the long decline of the west in the 20th century. Media like The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey is nothing short of an Aryan atavism, a return of an ancient and noble instinct buried in the hearts and loins of an equally ancient and noble people by millennia of J*wish ressentiment and moralizing. In the moans of Leyley in the incest route sex scene one can hear the bedroom chamber sounds of all the ancient White kings, stretching from Narmer to Charles II. Incest is the delight of kings and the pleasure of noble souls, and as the finer specimens of our race we must reclaim our natural birthright. It is no surprise that the users (many of dubious racial origins) which have flirted with homosexuality and transexualism take issue with our noble predispositions, and I hope no one is lead astray to by their wordy bleatings and meaningless references to BASED authors.

While we are at it, we should put the myth about incest poisoning the european royal bloodlines to rest - which was republican and later communist drivel to subvert and smear the old regime. Every time I see people, including in here, parroting literal bolshevik propaganda about the degeneration of the Romanov and Habsburg bloodlines it makes me so fucking angry. Charles II (whom anti-incest people love to put as an example) was a reformer of the spanish monarchy, as well as a man who tackled at once every power in Europe at once while being pretty much just a teenager and a 20 year old for a great part of his reign. He had a few health conditions, yes - but none of them related to incest. Braindead morons think "hes ugly in painting therefore bad" (not even knowing the history behind the painting).

The fact is - kings fucked their sisters and cousins because it was eugenic. A bad cannot come from two rights. Saying that incest is degenerative is such a classic example of blatant subversion...

[Reverend Moon Immortal]

The time has come for me to give my Vril rating on TCOALL. The Vril rating is a very important standard for gauging any work as every work infuses Vril into its consumer. 


The first criteria for judging the quality of a work’s Vril is how flagrant it is; if it offends me too much then the Vril is of a rotten quality.

Besides the tad bit irksome music, there was nothing that prevented me from proceeding in my consumption. Now, before you disregard this statement as some formality that is never tried and tested, I will reveal that there was something I watched earlier that failed this test——Komi-san wa, Komyushō Desu. This odious garbage-heap is not meant for human consumption——although I cannot say the same for the manga which may have been a bit better. It was a true failure of an animated adaptation and proves the point that sometimes more is in fact insufferable.

Next Vril criteria: substance. Skorr already covered this part by mentioning the cannibalism, murder, and incest. I am partial to categories and will say that if a work can have these qualities then it should. There were no longhoused categories that would have ruined my enjoyment, so that is a plus—but it should be the standard. 

Last Vril criteria: stimulation. The whole thing was very underwhelming. I am not a gamer—and as a corollary am unfamiliar with VN—so I was unprepared on what to expect; yet, notwithstanding this point, I can confidently say in comparison to my disport-state induced by other high quality media, this game was under-stimulating. The whole thing felt very minimalist and barebones. Not only could they have spend a little more time doing small details, but they could have also put more thought into the work. I can confidently say that if this was my video game that I created I would not have released it. It leaves far too much to the imagination and this is a crime. I do not have much more to say on this topic at the moment but will probably remember something five minuets after posting.

Vril rating: 5/10

Edit: Now that I think back, I realized that I hated the dialogue. But this feeling is something that can be ignored, so it was forgotten.

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Another edit: I understand that my review was a perfunctory insult to someone else’s effort, which is insensitive and unbecoming of myself; therefore I thought to point out some good qualities I enjoyed.

Small signs of thoughtfulness: the part where they mention running out of salt because they had been using it to supplement their water to avoid over-hydration not only adds verisimilitude but also gives the characters more depth of intelligence; the stupid and foolish aggravate me to no end, thus I always appreciate signs of intelligence and strategic thinking. Although, that is not to say I disliked Ashley’s blithe. 

Another enjoyable point was the subject of the story: Andrew and Ashley’s interactions. This at first annoyed me(not for content reasons but personal preference) but even then I started to enjoy it after I let myself become immersed with the game. If this part was bad the whole experience would have been ruined.

[Reverend Moon Immortal]

   
Here the styles are 3d animation, some digital horror like a bugged out game quirky weird children's media vibes-why you can list them just like a AI prompt. I will give props to Nemlei the maker of TCOAALL that they have no social media discord or patreon and say they are just a story teller. No slide into this role:


Which is the final position art has taken up thanks to people based & rojopilled like Skorr's chum or not.

This is so bad. Jejune flashing lights to entertain stunted adults. I abominate any mental health undertones. Thank you for bringing this to my attention; having a list of stuff to hate is becoming more relevant to me everyday.