The Final White Generation

[GraalChud]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Because that`s worked so well in the past...

I cannot tell if this response is a joke. In what universe will an escapist strategy like this do anything but buy us a few more years? The best one can hope for by moving to a 99% white place is living out his life in a white area, only to have it flooded with minorities at some point after he dies, leaving any of his descendants in the area to deal with them; this is if, of course, it is not flooded with minorities by the government during his lifetime. Sure, doing this *might* make the quality of your life better on an individual level, but this does not fix our problems, only ignores them. 

Also, an area being almost entirely white is not sufficient to deem it an enjoyable place to live - many majority white areas are either run-down shitholes that offer their inhabitants no economic opportunity (and thus no chance at prosperity) or are filled with obnoxious, insufferable normgroid libtards with those tacky "in this house we believe..." signs in their front yards. Very few places (In America, anyway) are majority white, offer upward socioeconomic mobility or even just job opportunities that would allow one to sustain himself and possibly his family, are affordable to live in for people like us, and are not filled with libtards; to reiterate what I said above, even if you could find such a place, it would inevitably be swept up by the rising tide of color. We can flee to the Vermonts and Icelands of the world, but in the long run, this does not fix our problems at all.

[Guest]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

KYS trannico

[ꦈꦒꦲꦸꦫꦲꦺꦴꦗ꦳ꦲ]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Because that`s worked so well in the past...

Thank you GraalChud, if you ever need my sword I will answer.
And should you ever just need a friend, I will also be there.

[JohnTrent]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

I have been fortunate enough to have lived in a 98% White area for most of my life, and have relocated to another place that is 80% White. The 98% area was in the majority sense impoverished, and no solution was ever in sight for fixing this. It was sheer circumstance and luck that I could live in a White-majority population without having to suffer. It is obligatory of course to mention that the decline of standards between the 98% and the 80% areas is noticeable. If I lived anywhere with a less than 60% White population, I would snap.
Practically speaking, such a demographic is worthless in the long run. Even with the comparatively ideal circumstance of a significant White majority, the slow or rapid influx of non-whites is enough to cause a steady deterioration in the White ways of life. Each family is inundated with an increased non-white presence on televisions, on advertisements, on everything that is outside the control of the immediate community. What was once a rigorous set of customs and preferred behaviors is slowly vanished in place of indifference: Whites cannot conduct or enforce themselves in the ways that they once did, and there is no thymos characteristic of a prideful race, replaced instead with self-deprecation and a feeble respect for other races. You will either live in a place that imitates non-white behavior or facilitates the inclusion of non-whites into American society (in word or deed). Miscegenation only worsens this.

[calico]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Because that`s worked so well in the past...

I cannot tell if this response is a joke. In what universe will an escapist strategy like this do anything but buy us a few more years? The best one can hope for by moving to a 99% white place is living out his life in a white area, only to have it flooded with minorities at some point after he dies, leaving any of his descendants in the area to deal with them; this is if, of course, it is not flooded with minorities by the government during his lifetime. Sure, doing this *might* make the quality of your life better on an individual level, but this does not fix our problems, only ignores them.

Who said anything about escaping? You can literally just move somewhere where there aren't black people if it bothers you so much. You don't ever have to see them. You're the one making the choice!

We can flee to the Vermonts and Icelands of the world, but in the long run, this does not fix our problems at all.

It would actually immediately fix your problem. Have any of you guys even been to these places you claim to know so much about? I'm starting to think some of you might not even have driver's licenses...

For all the KKK larping around here I seem to be the only one racist enough to truly live according to racist principles.

[GraalChud]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Because that`s worked so well in the past...

I cannot tell if this response is a joke. In what universe will an escapist strategy like this do anything but buy us a few more years? The best one can hope for by moving to a 99% white place is living out his life in a white area, only to have it flooded with minorities at some point after he dies, leaving any of his descendants in the area to deal with them; this is if, of course, it is not flooded with minorities by the government during his lifetime. Sure, doing this *might* make the quality of your life better on an individual level, but this does not fix our problems, only ignores them.

Who said anything about escaping? You can literally just move somewhere where there aren't black people if it bothers you so much. You don't ever have to see them. You're the one making the choice!

We can flee to the Vermonts and Icelands of the world, but in the long run, this does not fix our problems at all.

It would actually immediately fix your problem. Have any of you guys even been to these places you claim to know so much about? I'm starting to think some of you might not even have driver's licenses...

For all the KKK larping around here I seem to be the only one racist enough to truly live according to racist principles.

"Who said anything about escaping?"

You did when you said that we could literally just flee to somewhere whiter than wherever it is we presently are if we don`t like seeing blacks. That is, by definition, escaping (in this case, from niggers/other non-whites)

"It would actually immediately fix your problem. Have any of you guys even been to these places you claim to know so much about?"

No, it wouldn`t for the reasons that have already been explained to you. At most, I`m willing to concede that it would fix the situation for any individual who tries going down the white flight path (something that not all of us are able to do), but only temporarily, and it doesn`t fix the problems our race faces collectively. Even if I did flee to somewhere where there were no niggers, beaners, etc. in a 100 mile radius and where I could thrive economically and live out a happy life, I would still be seething about the state of the nation in which I was born and the suffering that my people are experiencing at the hands of people I hate. I`d imagine that at least some people on this site feel similarly, and I, for one, will not be gaslit with disingenuous "but how does this affect you personally?"-type rhetoric. 

As for whether I have personally been to the sorts of places I am talking about? Yeah, I`ve been to plenty of rural white areas that are shitty, plenty of wealthy white areas where the people are insufferable, and have even had the pleasure of going places that are both white and fairly conservative. I`ve also been to and even lived in nigger-infested shitholes AND "mixed-income" neighborhoods, which are absolute hellscapes. But where I`ve been and have not been doesn`t really matter, as even if I`d never been to these places, my commentary thereon would still be correct.

To get this thread back on track/relate this exchange back to the thread`s topic, Katherine Nixey`s "Darkening Age" actually details the story of a Greek pagan philosopher whose name I cannot remember off of the top of my head and his disciples who, interestingly enough, actually tried moving to a place where there wasn`t really a significant Christian presence - Persia. He and his followers walked all the way there in hopes that they might escape persecution (if I recall correctly, this was in the 6th century), only to be deeply dissatisfied with the state of things upon their arrival. I believe he stayed in Persia for a while, only to slink back to Greece and live out the rest of his miserable life under the rule of people who hated him. Take from this story what you will.

[Guest]

Another similarity between the christianization of Rome and the wokeization of the West is that mass inmigration contributed to those things,while in the West the rise of leftism is consequence of the mass inmigration from africa,asia and latin america who vote for left wing parties,in Rome the rise of christianity was driven by the influx of middle eastern and anatolian inmigrants https://survivethejive.blogspot.com/2019...n-dna.html
https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/scie...08_f1.jpeg
,christianity was one of the many eastern cults that arose in the imperial era like the cult of mithras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism,it just happened that christianity(which was an admixture of decadent hellenism+judaism for gentiles) was the most successful.

[Ackrobatty]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Never forget that @calico is a retarded boomer who watches SNL. He imagines himself as a troll owning the wignat’s online. “Hahaha, I just triggered them so much with like 12 words.” If you responded to him with a response longer than his own you are a retarded nigger.(I am excluded)

[GraalChud]

You guys know you can just move to Vermont, right? It's 99% white.

Never forget that @calico is a retarded boomer who watches SNL. He imagines himself as a troll owning the wignat’s online. “Hahaha, I just triggered them so much with like 12 words.” If you responded to him with a response longer than his own you are a retarded nigger.(I am excluded)

He`s driven by the same impulse that drives that mulatto abomination TinkZOG - the desire to "own" le chuds. It`s supremely gay and we will draw and quarter him for it in WhenWeWinWorld.

[calico]

[Guest]

Coalico strikes again

[capgras]

Coalico strikes again

[casual rapist]

@calico are you really a boomer?  I thought you were millennial.  Taking a big brotherly stance with the lost zoomers. 

Retreat is also a mistake.  You have to go towards the center, contest that space.  Intentionally engage conflict.

[calico]

@calico are you really a boomer?  I thought you were millennial.  Taking a big brotherly stance with the lost zoomers. 

No I'm just wise beyond my years. I get this a lot from fans.

[gipazugos]

I realize I'm necrobumping this thread but it's a very interesting topic. There are two points to be made here:
1. Julian, who was brought up earlier, was raised a Christian and only converted to paganism later in his life after reading the pagan classics in Athens. This shows that the past will always have a draw to it, and that our Julian, if we get one, won't necessarily be Trump. It's entirely possible that Robert Biden II (or some other scion of a libtard elite family) has been raised on 4chan, CKII, Evola and BAM like many zoomers on this site, and will remember them when he gets power.
2. Paganism survived longer than the 6th century. There were still Hellenic pagans called the Maniots in the Peloponnese mentioned by Constantine VII. Apparently they were only converted in the 9th and 10th centuries. I've also heard of Hellenic pagans on the Black Sea coast who were finally destroyed by the Mehmet the Conquerer sponsored anti-unionist churched, but I can't find much on this. These two groups fall into the rustic pagan category, but what's more of interest is the survival of intellectual paganism all the way up until the end of the empire, shown by Plethon, a topic which warrants more research. I would assume this was less a survival of crypto-pagans all the way from the 4th century, and more due educated Hellenes becoming interested in ancient pagan philosophy due to the Byzantine renaissances in the 10th and 13th centuries, but that may be incorrect.
Nonetheless, this whitepill can only be taken so far. The Byzantine Hellenes were in a much better position than contemporary whites. While they faced a lot of internal Syrian and Armenian migration, and Albanian and Slavic migration from outside the Empire (both sponsored by the Empire to some extent), it was on a minuscule scale compared to the levels of migration faced by America and Europe nowadays. These groups are also (apart from Syrians) racially much closer, so it's more analogous to 19th-20th ethnic European migration into America than the 50 billion Haitians and Indians we're faced with nowadays. They were also able to keep Hellenistic high culture alive, and made it the standard for the whole Empire, which lead to both a Hellenization of Christianity and the aforementioned survival of intellectual Paganism, and also assimilation of the aforementioned racially similar groups to Hellenic culture. Christianity is also a much better ideology to be faced with than libtardism; I couldn't imagine both the white race and European high culture being able to survive with libtardism as the reigning ideology like the Hellenic race and Hellenistic high culture survived with Christianity.

[chibi goat]

There is a stark difference between Christianity and WOKEism of modern day.

The former was a sphere of Sublime ideas. Paradise with its crystal streams and colored flowers puts us into a state of awe. The notion of a benevolent simple unity (God) does so too. A man rejecting the world is also sublime, for it makes the world which we so value to be tiny, etc. 

It may have been a death cult, but it was also a system of folk metaphysics that nourished the people. As Schopenhauer says, there is a need of a system of metaphysics within everyone and Christianity capitalized on that. Appealing to aesthetics (particularly the Sublime) and nourishing the metaphysical need is how Christianity spread.

WOKEism has no aesthetic notions that raises the mind; it is not a system of metaphysics which nourishes. There will never be a good WOKE poem or art. It just will not have a lasting impact. 

And they are LOSING. Go WOKE go BROKE as a smart man once said.

[Aizen]

[Christianity] was a sphere of Sublime ideas... WOKEism has no aesthetic notions that raises the mind. There will never be a good WOKE poem or art. It just will not have a lasting impact.

And they are LOSING. Go WOKE go BROKE as a smart man once said.

I appreciate optimism, and I agree, they are losing. But what comes after? So-called WOKE is just the culmination of a completely unadulterated democratic mass taking total control over everything--including their own minds, with no higher power to guide them. What @ꦈꦒꦲꦸꦫꦲꦺꦴꦗ꦳ꦲ said here is very pertinent and beautifully clearpilled. Religion is a tool to control the mass of men. The pure teaching of Christ is far closer to the pure teaching of the Buddha than it is to the Semitic legalism it sprung forth from (or for that matter the pseudo-Christianity of the modern Left--love thy neighbor meaning infinity niggers), but what became of the teachings of Christ when it was put into the hands of the slavish masses? Constant pointless bickering for centuries until Constantine puts his foot down. Only 80 years after Nicea the slave nigger emperor Theodosius purges the old Religion at the best of a slave nigger bishop. The sublimity of Christianity is lost on the masses, and when the aristocracy left its post and gave "Power to da People", everything blended together and created this situation we have now.

So I ask the question again: "What comes after the 'woke left' is defeated and pushed from power?" BAP has a great passage in his book on this. Paraphrased, it goes something like this: I think its better for sheep to be well tended than brutally prodded like they are now, but the height of life will not be found in the modern Nation-State. In short, because the mass has already accepted 90% of egalitarian morality; because of this, Christianity can not be used to save this civilization. (unless it is willing to accept a Buddhistic interpretation and a new Prophet).

People naturally do not race-mix or whatever other worry you have, but without an aristocratic core leading the West--which, in my opinion, would have to be many times larger than the aristocracies of the past because of the sheer magnitude of populations--it will continue in a declining state as it has, albeit decelerated. There is no way to generate a new aristocracy without the breeding of a new Herrenvolk, and such a thing may take centuries. Furthermore, there is no more wellspring of the Race to draw from such as the Eurasian Steppe. That being said, we must continue to fight against the demographic decay of our civilization, but on the scale of centuries or two millennia, it will end eventually.

These are the reasons I believe the only solution, on the scale of millennia, is to leave this suffocating, decaying world behind and begin to form the nucleus of this new Herrenvolk now--unless in the case of a new War of Annihilation which completely changes everything and leaves billions dead in its wake, at which point the world would already have collapsed and a new heroic age can dawn, but most are so risk averse (especially the Chinese, do not let the sinophiles fool you) that there is basically no Will left for such a thing to happen.

Taking a big brotherly stance with the lost zoomers.

No I'm just wise beyond my years.

You are both slaves. You will be connected to billions of other slaves in a wireless Neuralink Parallel Processing Network with some 10% of your brainpower being used to perform previously unfathomable calculations. You will be given the proper amount of serotonin, dopamine, estrogen, testosterone, and other essential hormones to keep you happy and docile while simultaneously making sure your mental output is at its maximum possible performance to contribute to various projects of the New Elite.

It'll be like Toaru Kagaku no Railgun, where scientists can put in a request to use the Tree Diagram supercomputer for ambitious projects. You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

[Virtue]

A man rejecting the world is also sublime

No it is not, read On the Genealogy of Morality, third essay.

[august]

A man rejecting the world is also sublime

No it is not, read On the Genealogy of Morality, third essay.

Please stop doing this. You think it's a mog but you're using the works of Nietzsche as a bible in a manner that is nearly identical to the modern, all-too-Christian way that astroturfed e-Christians will simply quote or reply to a tweet that they find disagreeable with "Philippians 4:13" or something. Except here, you're not merely referring him to a few allegorical words, you're telling him to go read an entire portion of one of the most misunderstood philosophers of all time. You're not providing any of your own personal thought as to what "On the Genealogy of Morality, third essay" means, nor giving any of your own critique against what he said. You could've explained how it refutes the ascetic ideal and the specific context in which it does this, but you didn't. Or how Zarathustra's asceticism differs from the priestly type of life-denying asceticism, but again, you didn't. Why would anyone take this reply of yours seriously? Stop name-dropping Nietzsche like you know it all without even making an attempt to at least appear as though you understand what you're talking about.

[BillyONare]

"Orgy of the Will aphorism 1729."