Twatter Drama Megathread

[BillyONare]

By the way, if you are a big twitter user you probably know the bad tweeter Book Cat, a wordcel who always had some deranged grudge against BAP. A couple months ago he started sucking up to Nick and I immediately KNEW that the entire purpose of that was to drive a wedge between these two. I'm sure he is doing his best to enflame all of this behind the scenes. He will eventually get resentful of Fuentes and burn bridges because that is the type of guy he is.



I agree with our friend Nigel Carlsbad.

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It is so cringe how this fagot is imitating all of Fuentes' mannerisms down to how he names his twitter account. Total child sycophant.

[Trep]

At the end of the day they are e-celebs. Fuentes is a streamer and BAP is a podcaster. Only BAP's podcast is actually good and AF streams are headache inducing. Nick is a human rw meme vector draped in paleocon garb. Also speaking of arguing from ignorance Nick seems to have very little idea about what BAP or Moldbug for that matter (who he also roped into this due to the Thiel connection) thinks. I listened to a Twitter space where he was criticizing them and he was completely incoherent and self contradictory.

[Coyote]

Nick's inherent non-Americanness, expressed through his Catholicism and hispanicism, was and is a problem. You can't be "America First" unless you are a WASP, literally. Anything else is a LARP. There is absolutely no such thing as foundational American Catholicism, and in fact, early America was one of if not the most hostile countries on the planet to Catholicism. So in his sense, "America First" is wearing suits and being clean cut and LARPing like you're Mayflower material. It doesn't work that way. Think about it, if some Turkroach in Germany was aping up some kind of "Germany First" thing and wearing a Pickelhaube and lederhosen, would you say he's "really German"?

Furthermore, I really, really don't buy the idea of spending 3+ hours a day on a stream to be "work" for any sort of cause. If anything, anyone who engages in this is actively making things worse because all it is is a friend simulator where you can be made to feel like things will be alright.

[BillyONare]

YNBAW Sunny/Radfem follower

[Guest]

BAP is a DC spook astroturfed by billionaires to funnel online energy back into the GOP and pro-Zionist sympathy. Nick Fuentes is a kid from Chicago with an actual organic following who is persecuted by the federal government for his speech.

[obscurefish]

BAP is a DC spook astroturfed by billionaires to funnel online energy back into the GOP and pro-Zionist sympathy. Nick Fuentes is a kid from Chicago with an actual organic following who is persecuted by the federal government for his speech.

I think that BAP is basically a Zionist but also that his following is organic. He is an intelligent, entertaining writer.

[Coyote]

BAP is a DC spook astroturfed by billionaires to funnel online energy back into the GOP and pro-Zionist sympathy. Nick Fuentes is a kid from Chicago with an actual organic following who is persecuted by the federal government for his speech.

Kantbot is that you?

[Guest]

The image sums up the pro-bap vs anti-bap crowd. Instead of nazis, it's
>y-you're gay!
>no, you're gay!
No coherent discussion or exchange of arguments. You have one that is posting pictures of other men online and the other countersignaling women and "muh catboy". It all feels like a continuation of divide&conquer tactics from a few years ago.

[aquawin]

I don't know if we'll ever be able to reverse the effects of what Kant and Logo did.

This is irredeemably retarded, whether on purpose or not. No one who likes bap cares about the dox, since nothing in it discredits him if you're not a retard. Nick's followers use it to call him a fed. You're either retarded or trying to sabotage.

[cats]

BAP is the most genuine right winger on Earth.

[parzival]

mexgroid's new article (which i haven't read, will never read, and suggest you not read either) and the subsequent BAP retweet at first blush seem like the latest in a series of unrelated dramas, but it's clear that this is a continuation of the "hypersexualization" argument with the norwood multiracial working-class populists.

mexgroid is a terrible writer--as someone pointed out, he only has the barest iq required for coming up with tweets--and what anyone else could shit out in a day it probably took him the full two weeks since the beginning of the 'calvin klein argument' to pen. keep in mind this was a galvanizing moment for the instagram model softcore porn posting crew, as they gleefully partook in "dunking on the trads" together with BAP. prior this their status in this sphere was at an all-time low, so i've no doubt this is what emboldened 'groid to write his vice-tier article. more importantly though, when BAP talks about his idiosyncratic views about sex is just about the only time 'groid and his crew have anything to say. they are far too stupid to grasp or care about any of the meaningful things he says, which allows them to conveniently ignore the other 99% of his rhetoric that outright contradicts their views.

in a way this pro-casual sex attitude stands completely at odds with the rest of BAP's ideology. at the core of it is a revulsion towards lower life (which is what "longhouse" is shorthand for) and a striving towards conditions which can enable higher life to thrive. anyone with a basic grasp of what constitutes higher life knows it involves the repression of base physical urges and strict patriarchal institutions around marriage and courtship. anyone with a pair of eyes can see that social mores facilitating casual sex, unrestrained female sexual selection, libertine sexual attitudes, and the suffusion of common parlance with the language of sexual intercourse are all defining elements of present-day life, which, it goes without saying, certainly belongs to the category of lower life. yet BAP's handsome thursday posting and his quirky stories about encounters with prostitutes are endearing and funny, they colour him as an individual with his own personal identity. i do not begrudge him any of this, nor his shows about ancient greek occult sex magic, nor his comical scheming about "right wing porn" the subvert the subversion. every man has a right to his individuality and we would be much the lesser without him.

still, i am unable to restrain myself from arguing this point whenever it comes up. the endless pursuit of truth compels me to do so, even if it means arguing on the same side as ur-norwoods whom i would have shot without a second thought. even carlsbad eventually deleted his posts on the subject when he realized pretext behind this argument. this is where the 'groidites come in. because they represent this singular aspect of BAP which i vehemently disagree with, one can humiliate them endlessly and convey the exact same arguments without having to countersignal BAP or align with norwoods. they are also too stupid to notice what was going on behind-the-scenes, so there is no need to fear getting involved in some coordinated attack we are not privy to, they really do just care about the surface level points about sex. in a way then, i'm glad 'groid is around to insist upon this point, because his existence completely discredits the "muh dik" tier ideas which might have otherwise held some cachet due to association with BAP.

[Guest]

Bookcat is an odd bird because he does have a point of view i.e. he's really into American Hamiltonism but refuses to ever write out a short summary of his thoughts, then gets mad people won't read the exact same books he likes to read. Like writing two or three articles summarizing what he's been reading over the past year would be much more valuable than posting excerpts from whatever 1850s polemic he's reading that day.

He's a bit like Logo in that he believes people don't appreciate his genius but unlike Logo does have a coherent point of view - he just refuses to explain it.

[anthony]

Bookcat is an odd bird because he does have a point of view i.e. he's really into American Hamiltonism but refuses to ever write out a short summary of his thoughts, then gets mad people won't read the exact same books he likes to read. Like writing two or three articles summarizing what he's been reading over the past year would be much more valuable than posting excerpts from whatever 1850s polemic he's reading that day.

He's a bit like Logo in that he believes people don't appreciate his genius but unlike Logo does have a coherent point of view - he just refuses to explain it.

Bookcat's recent attack on Moldbug was disgustingly shallow, baseless, and stupid. And then that "a thread" faggot with long *critique* on moldbug, more unprincipled anti-intellectual garbage. I fucking hate these people. Bookcat is not a literate presence online. Even if he drags his eyes across some pdfs he *thinks* like AF-trash.

[CopperAgeMagus]

Book Cat joined up with AF recently, yes? It was only recently that it seems like he started outright posting in defense of Nick's antics. Nowadays he's just attacking BAP for, apparently, being "muh Thiel capital" and/or a Romanian. Other than that I don't see what you find esoteric about what he believes in, it's just a regurgitation of the American School from the Whigs and antebellum America.

It's not esoteric at all but most people aren't familiar with the American School and if BookCat had any sort of actual evangelizing impluse, as opposed to feeling aggrieved that people who follow him don't appreciate his intelligence, he would write some substack articles explaining why he thinks the American School is relevant today.

In an ideal world BookCat would be more like Carlsbad i.e. synthesizing political thought from the past and explaining his point of view in blogposts.

As for why Book Cat is defending Nick Fuentes I have no idea, but I do know he doesn't like Frogtwitter all that much. (Him and Logo used to argue all the time, with Logo usually coming off the worst for it)

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https://twitter.com/giannis_daras/status...JF7DRXVEOA

Could "Skinsuit Groyper" be an emergent AI who for some reason has focused on dissident right wing twitter? /schizotheorizing

[Enzo]

Bookcat is a misshapen sexhaver who used to be known as “casey” (his real name). He also displayed his real face. Also his girlfriend, whom he posed in pics with. Does no one remember this? Every since the post-trump bans, he got very nervous and took on the bookcat persona and dropped his outright natsoc posting in favor of not pissing off his girlfriend and just generally being inoffensive. Throwing his lot in with the gay faggot spongebob references is unsurprising given his history.

[Guest]

Bookcat's recent attack on Moldbug was disgustingly shallow, baseless, and stupid.

It was true nonetheless. Moldberg and his cohorts are net negative, cf. what he said about the vax, and the stance of all his followers take on centralized conspiracies. Also he is a literal kike, if that was not 100% obvious already.

[BillyONare]

@anthony Book Cat is far trashier than any groyper as seen by him pathetically groveling and licking Nick’s boots, trying to imitate all of his mannerisms like constantly posting Spongebob memes, etc. He is like Nick’s submissive girlfriend. No testosterone. Probably 15 IQ points less than the average religious America First watcher. The really sad part is that he has no common ground with America First or Nick, either aesthetically, politically, morally, or otherwise. He can’t even understand them. He is APING and SUBMITTING to them simply because he has a grudge against BAP and fancies himself to be Coriolanus.

[anthony]

Bookcat's recent attack on Moldbug was disgustingly shallow, baseless, and stupid.

It was true nonetheless. Moldberg and his cohorts are net negative, cf. what he said about the vax, and the stance of all his followers take on centralized conspiracies. Also he is a literal kike, if that was not 100% obvious already.

No. Bookcat cropped around the main argument of the relevant piece because he knows none of his literate 'book' circle are going to marathon an entire blogpost. He probably didn't either. The argument is perfectly sound and irrefutable. But due to like three paragraphs that don't make a complete case the Spongebob pfp wiggers all unanimously agree "LMAOOOOO it's OVER, what a KIKE". If you disagree with moldbug you are a spiritual kike and communist and I hate you. I consider that particular post one of his greatest works.

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@anthony Book Cat is far trashier than any groyper as seen by him pathetically groveling and licking Nick’s boots, trying to imitate all of his mannerisms like constantly posting Spongebob memes, etc. He is like Nick’s submissive girlfriend. No testosterone. Probably 15 IQ points less than the average religious America First watcher. The really sad part is that he has no common ground with America First or Nick, either aesthetically, politically, morally, or otherwise. He can’t even understand them. He is APING and SUBMITTING to them simply because he has a grudge against BAP and fancies himself to be Coriolanus.

I don't know anything about Book Cat but this all aligns with what little I've seen.

[obscurefish]

No. Bookcat cropped around the main argument of the relevant piece because he knows none of his literate 'book' circle are going to marathon an entire blogpost. He probably didn't either. The argument is perfectly sound and irrefutable. But due to like three paragraphs that don't make a complete case the Spongebob pfp wiggers all unanimously agree "LMAOOOOO it's OVER, what a KIKE". If you disagree with moldbug you are a spiritual kike and communist and I hate you. I consider that particular post one of his greatest works.

His whole argument hinges on the conceit that, "if USG (and its European satellites, of course) agreed to close its eyes for a year, at the end of that year, Israel could easily be occupying the entire Muslim world from Karachi to Mauritania." If that's the case, why was Operation Nickel Grass ever necessary?

A good counterexample where USG actually sabotaged one of its allies despite the presence of a significant lobby in Congress was the US arms embargo against Chiang. If USG was really intent on sabotaging Israel all we would have to do is officially recognize its nuclear status and then provisions of US federal law would kick in rendering it ineligible for the American foreign (military) aid it currently receives.

[anthony]

No. Bookcat cropped around the main argument of the relevant piece because he knows none of his literate 'book' circle are going to marathon an entire blogpost. He probably didn't either. The argument is perfectly sound and irrefutable. But due to like three paragraphs that don't make a complete case the Spongebob pfp wiggers all unanimously agree "LMAOOOOO it's OVER, what a KIKE". If you disagree with moldbug you are a spiritual kike and communist and I hate you. I consider that particular post one of his greatest works.

His whole argument hinges on the conceit that, "if USG (and its European satellites, of course) agreed to close its eyes for a year, at the end of that year, Israel could easily be occupying the entire Muslim world from Karachi to Mauritania." If that's the case, why was Operation Nickel Grass ever necessary?

Nickel Grass is the military equivalent to United Fruit Company.